(07-09-2019 06:32 PM)MidnightBlueGold Wrote: Yea, I guess we can just forget about Libbey-Owens-Ford, Owens-Illinois, Owens-Corning, Pilkington, Libbey Glass...
Not if you don't want to. Most of them are foreign owned and have been for many decades, do not have a glass making presence and an ever decreasing Administrative and research presence in Toledo so for ME, it's a misnomer.
But this thread is about UToledo branding, not Toledo branding.
Still do not see what connection you're making to UToledo. Location? That's it? It's as specious an association for the University as FROGS or Speedway. But if you like, it doesn't bother me at all. Why are you so bothered that I don't like it? Seems childish.
(07-09-2019 06:05 PM)northcoastRocket Wrote: (07-09-2019 09:07 AM)eastisbest Wrote: Toledo area has never been the major glass producer, let alone Toledo itself. There's very little glass in the city beyond imaginings and promotions.
The "Glass Museum" is made of glass from China.
The "Glass Bowl" isn't made of fragile glass, it's made of strong stone.
By your logic, they should put a frog on the uniforms. That also was a big Toledo promotion and branding.
As for "universally fans favorite" I missed that poll, where is it? I don't recall any jerseys for sale with that moniker, what were their sales numbers? What basis at all is there for that statement?
"Glass City" is too easily memed to "Ass City" and it will be.
Toledo citizens universally (see how easy this is) do not think of "glass" when it comes to Toledo other than follow the leader. No one says, "Come to Toledo, go take a tour of the glass plant."
University of Toledo has a brand, a brand much better than the city's, it's called "The University of Toledo." There's only one of those. UToledo sports teams have a brand, it's called "Rockets." There's only one of those in major college sports.
So sure, change all that to follow fakery.
UToledo wouldn't show wisdom to join a fast rolling downhill brand, let alone one that implies fragility.
Dude, I am sure you have some pedantic definition in your head that you can only be called the "glass city" if you meet some special criteria that only you know about.
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Dude, (lol, how old are you?) I dont really give a f what the city claims. This thread is about UToledo. I simply posted an opinion, nothing for you to get upset about, dude.
I do not see anything to be gained and more to be lost by taking up someone elses (with low reputation at that) branding when the one UToledo already has, is better. OP gave the opinion that simpler was better. I agree and it's NOT anything to do with glass.
People have an over inflated view of exactly what was and what was not accomplished in the city regarding glass, simply because John Block declared it the "glass city" in order to satisfy some business buddies and jumped on the band wagon. If he'd called it "Frog City" or "Speedway," or "duh'blade city" that would be the city's logo.
Everything I posted about the city and its limited relation to the glass industry and how the city came to be known as "Glass City" was taken from sources. If you call facts "pedantic" fine. If those facts do not line up with your desires and you choose them not important, fine. :shrug:
As I recall, it was actually Pittsburgh that was the "glass capital." at the time of the declaration. Seriously, you want to place the strength of your argument on a couple busses to the the Libbey outlet store? Fine, your choice.
I prefer the University's branding to have some meaning and individuality. If you don't, fine. Honestly, you having a different opinion doesn't both me. I honestly cannot figure out why my preference should have you so bothered. But I also don't care, I posted this irony for your own reflection, or not.