(07-01-2019 03:20 PM)BSKB 24 Wrote:  What? Didn't have the balls to include one more question? Do you prefer we stay FCS?

The third option is that (despite its subjective wording).

(07-01-2019 10:23 AM)Purplehazed Wrote:  

(07-01-2019 07:34 AM)Dukester Wrote:  Is CUSA now a reject?

I was thinking we would likely accept an offer from them?

I don't see the AAC as a likely option.

The inforum.com article posted yestetday listed cusa as a no go for jmu. This is exactly why I have been asking if Bourne has a real reason to belive aac is an option down the line...if not, where are we?

OMG

A league that is semi local with ODU and Marshall is a no go?

That is so rediculous. Perhaps we shouldn't be quick and run to the AAC. How about the SEC. I think LSU and us have at least two things in common. Our colors.

Heaven forbid if we entered a league where we had instant rivals.

I am extremely doubtful on this whole thing (for this cycle at least) but I hadn’t even thought about the story lines we would see with JMU vs. ECU. Cignetti vs. Houston.

Man would I love to see that.

It's really frustrating because I really think we could compete in football right away with the extra scholarships. I can't knock anyone affiliated from the AAC at looking at our men's basketball program and saying "eww". There's just no arguing our lack of success over the last couple decades. Only case to be made is the new facility. I think it at least shows that we're making a serious attempt at a revival.

It would be cool to have VT, UVA, ECU, and Marshal on the football schedule like ODU does.

(07-01-2019 06:31 PM)DoubleDDuke Wrote:  It's really frustrating because I really think we could compete in football right away with the extra scholarships. I can't knock anyone affiliated from the AAC at looking at our men's basketball program and saying "eww". There's just no arguing our lack of success over the last couple decades. Only case to be made is the new facility. I think it at least shows that we're making a serious attempt at a revival.

Without a doubt we could compete in the AAC right away.

I think the AAC looks way more at Football performance and what a school can bring to the table. This might sound like wordsmithing, but I don't think they look at basketball's lack of success and think - nah.... That said if basketball was a top 100 program that occassionally dips into the top 50 they could see that as a plus.

IMO I think it would be difficult for the AAC to accept a college direct from FCS. That are not looking for a transitional college..... If I were them, I would not either.

It depends on whether the AAC has some vision or not. To me it is a matter of do you want the same old same old by picking an older school that has name recognition but really hasn’t done anything in football in the last 10 or more years. That is the safe option. The other option is a growing university with recent national championships and whose 18 sports programs regularly participate in the NCAA tournament.

With the AAC moniker, basketball recruiting gets easier. It’s really about fit. JMU athletics would explode into relevance in the AAC and would be a school that would also lift the profile of the AAC while the AAC lifts the profile of JMU.

Look around folks. What available university has more of a complete package of academics, athletics, fan support and a growing affluent alumni base living in every major market across this country? If the AAC values a school that has been on the rise for 40 years and at an accelerating rate the last 15 with further expansion on the way, the choice is actually pretty easy.

What I don’t trust is that the old line President’s will be able to look to the future with any vision. It is safer to pick an old line school then face the few raised eyebrows from uneducated fans of their member schools who want Oklahoma or Michigan to leave their P5 home to play in the AAC because said fans have no sense of reality.

JMU is clearly the best available option at this time for the AAC. Army and Air Force can’t compete with the top 50 schools. They have an established name but just can’t recruit to play with the big boys. BYU likely isn’t interested because travel would just kill their budget and the revenue the AAC pulls in isn’t substantial enough to warrant a move by them. The Big 12 would be a better home for BYU and the Big 12 should be thinking hard about BYU.

FWIW I have communicated with Jmu leadership and not only did they respond to my inquiry but their response gives me confidence that getting into the AAC is not only something that is of interest to them but something that they are actively pursuing. Just my two cents but we will not miss out on an opportunity to join the AAC for lack of effort. And by the way I believe we could have joined the Cusa Mac or sun belt already and years ago but Jmu always was waiting for the opportunity to join the American. If you don’t believe that those conferences have pursued Jmu on multiple occasions after comparing Jmu our support facilities etc with their members I don’t think you are being honest with yourself.

Some schools approach things differently- some have different styles- Jmu is guarded and working back channels while Odu is telling everyone the cards they hope to play. We will see which approach wins out but ultimately you need to hold good cards and Jmu has better cards than most. We’ll see who’s right joe sports fan who thinks you have to join a lesser G5 league to pay your dues or Jmu who elected to wait for the long term option to open up and go directly there.

I would hope JMU is at least attempting to communicate with the AAC. Whether they bother to bite is a completely different story.

(07-02-2019 09:47 PM)JMUNation Wrote:  It depends on whether the AAC has some vision or not. To me it is a matter of do you want the same old same old by picking an older school that has name recognition but really hasn’t done anything in football in the last 10 or more years. That is the safe option. The other option is a growing university with recent national championships and whose 18 sports programs regularly participate in the NCAA tournament.

With the AAC moniker, basketball recruiting gets easier. It’s really about fit. JMU athletics would explode into relevance in the AAC and would be a school that would also lift the profile of the AAC while the AAC lifts the profile of JMU.

Look around folks. What available university has more of a complete package of academics, athletics, fan support and a growing affluent alumni base living in every major market across this country? If the AAC values a school that has been on the rise for 40 years and at an accelerating rate the last 15 with further expansion on the way, the choice is actually pretty easy.

What I don’t trust is that the old line President’s will be able to look to the future with any vision. It is safer to pick an old line school then face the few raised eyebrows from uneducated fans of their member schools who want Oklahoma or Michigan to leave their P5 home to play in the AAC because said fans have no sense of reality.

JMU is clearly the best available option at this time for the AAC. Army and Air Force can’t compete with the top 50 schools. They have an established name but just can’t recruit to play with the big boys. BYU likely isn’t interested because travel would just kill their budget and the revenue the AAC pulls in isn’t substantial enough to warrant a move by them. The Big 12 would be a better home for BYU and the Big 12 should be thinking hard about BYU.

This post is spot - on.
Let's hope there is a great deal of due diligence being conducted by the AAC , if so, JMU will shine.
Our relationship with ESPN is not to be discounted , either.

There is another social media article today, "movin' on up, fcs power eyeing AAC?"

There is a bit of smoke, is there any fire?

It does make it easier to believe we have effort.

https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/sec-fo...-aac-spot/

We are going to rescue the AAC.

More smoke

https://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.co...ssion=true

(07-03-2019 07:45 AM)JMU Wrote:  More smoke

https://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.co...ssion=true

If by smoke, you mean a gentle breeze?

Feels like a couple of really bored writers needed filler and came across our "Newest Conference Rumor" thread. They then took those thousands of posts and summarized them.

(07-03-2019 07:02 AM)jmufbs Wrote:  

(07-02-2019 09:47 PM)JMUNation Wrote:  It depends on whether the AAC has some vision or not. To me it is a matter of do you want the same old same old by picking an older school that has name recognition but really hasn’t done anything in football in the last 10 or more years. That is the safe option. The other option is a growing university with recent national championships and whose 18 sports programs regularly participate in the NCAA tournament.

With the AAC moniker, basketball recruiting gets easier. It’s really about fit. JMU athletics would explode into relevance in the AAC and would be a school that would also lift the profile of the AAC while the AAC lifts the profile of JMU.

Look around folks. What available university has more of a complete package of academics, athletics, fan support and a growing affluent alumni base living in every major market across this country? If the AAC values a school that has been on the rise for 40 years and at an accelerating rate the last 15 with further expansion on the way, the choice is actually pretty easy.

What I don’t trust is that the old line President’s will be able to look to the future with any vision. It is safer to pick an old line school then face the few raised eyebrows from uneducated fans of their member schools who want Oklahoma or Michigan to leave their P5 home to play in the AAC because said fans have no sense of reality.

JMU is clearly the best available option at this time for the AAC. Army and Air Force can’t compete with the top 50 schools. They have an established name but just can’t recruit to play with the big boys. BYU likely isn’t interested because travel would just kill their budget and the revenue the AAC pulls in isn’t substantial enough to warrant a move by them. The Big 12 would be a better home for BYU and the Big 12 should be thinking hard about BYU.

This post is spot - on.
Let's hope there is a great deal of due diligence being conducted by the AAC , if so, JMU will shine.
Our relationship with ESPN is not to be discounted , either.

+1

You can't say JMU isn't trying.
We don't have President Rose anymore telling the admin to say no to everything. I may not be the biggest fan of Alger but he has never been against FBS in the way that Rose was. Our admin does almost too good of a job keeping things close to the vest. I'm sure there's more behind the scenes than we know. As a fan it drives me crazy, but I understand it. JMU will not make a conference look bad
Do I think it's going to happen: no. It's not because of FCS. Three letters: MBB. We are getting a new arena, which is definitely a positive point for moving to a better conference. But there is absolutely no proof to show the AAC that we would be an asset and not a liability. If we somehow make it to the AAC, the admin will have done an incredible job selling us, because one of our key sports is losing money and we are currently hurting the CAA. For the AAC to overlook that, that would be incredible.
If MBB were a success and had a history of success, I think we would have already been in an FBS conference by now.
I think our ONLY chance at this point at FBS is the creation of a new conference.

(07-03-2019 08:13 AM)Hotrod829 Wrote:  

(07-03-2019 07:02 AM)jmufbs Wrote:  

(07-02-2019 09:47 PM)JMUNation Wrote:  It depends on whether the AAC has some vision or not. To me it is a matter of do you want the same old same old by picking an older school that has name recognition but really hasn’t done anything in football in the last 10 or more years. That is the safe option. The other option is a growing university with recent national championships and whose 18 sports programs regularly participate in the NCAA tournament.

With the AAC moniker, basketball recruiting gets easier. It’s really about fit. JMU athletics would explode into relevance in the AAC and would be a school that would also lift the profile of the AAC while the AAC lifts the profile of JMU.

Look around folks. What available university has more of a complete package of academics, athletics, fan support and a growing affluent alumni base living in every major market across this country? If the AAC values a school that has been on the rise for 40 years and at an accelerating rate the last 15 with further expansion on the way, the choice is actually pretty easy.

What I don’t trust is that the old line President’s will be able to look to the future with any vision. It is safer to pick an old line school then face the few raised eyebrows from uneducated fans of their member schools who want Oklahoma or Michigan to leave their P5 home to play in the AAC because said fans have no sense of reality.

JMU is clearly the best available option at this time for the AAC. Army and Air Force can’t compete with the top 50 schools. They have an established name but just can’t recruit to play with the big boys. BYU likely isn’t interested because travel would just kill their budget and the revenue the AAC pulls in isn’t substantial enough to warrant a move by them. The Big 12 would be a better home for BYU and the Big 12 should be thinking hard about BYU.

This post is spot - on.
Let's hope there is a great deal of due diligence being conducted by the AAC , if so, JMU will shine.
Our relationship with ESPN is not to be discounted , either.

+1

I really hope this is the case, but I definitely wouldn't bet on it.

(07-03-2019 08:08 AM)Potomac Wrote:  

(07-03-2019 07:45 AM)JMU Wrote:  More smoke

https://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.co...ssion=true

If by smoke, you mean a gentle breeze?

Just a spark. But it does appears JMU is putting themselves out there. Getting an invite is an altogether different thing, though.