(07-03-2019 08:19 AM)JMU Wrote:  

(07-03-2019 08:08 AM)Potomac Wrote:  

(07-03-2019 07:45 AM)JMU Wrote:  More smoke

https://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.co...ssion=true

If by smoke, you mean a gentle breeze?

Just a spark. But it does appears JMU is putting themselves out there. Getting an invite is an altogether different thing, though.

If anything I hope this at least puts to rest the idea that JMU is just sitting on their hands doing absolutely nothing but the 'CAA4Lyfe' BS.

(07-03-2019 08:25 AM)JMad03 Wrote:  

(07-03-2019 08:19 AM)JMU Wrote:  

(07-03-2019 08:08 AM)Potomac Wrote:  

(07-03-2019 07:45 AM)JMU Wrote:  More smoke

https://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.co...ssion=true

If by smoke, you mean a gentle breeze?

Just a spark. But it does appears JMU is putting themselves out there. Getting an invite is an altogether different thing, though.

If anything I hope this at least puts to rest the idea that JMU is just sitting on their hands doing absolutely nothing but the 'CAA4Lyfe' BS.

Agreed

(07-03-2019 08:39 AM)JMU Wrote:  

(07-03-2019 08:25 AM)JMad03 Wrote:  

(07-03-2019 08:19 AM)JMU Wrote:  

(07-03-2019 08:08 AM)Potomac Wrote:  

(07-03-2019 07:45 AM)JMU Wrote:  More smoke

https://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.co...ssion=true

If by smoke, you mean a gentle breeze?

Just a spark. But it does appears JMU is putting themselves out there. Getting an invite is an altogether different thing, though.

If anything I hope this at least puts to rest the idea that JMU is just sitting on their hands doing absolutely nothing but the 'CAA4Lyfe' BS.

Agreed

I still wish we could start a new conference with ODU, ECU, Liberty, App State and ........

(07-03-2019 08:17 AM)JMad03 Wrote:  You can't say JMU isn't trying.
We don't have President Rose anymore telling the admin to say no to everything. I may not be the biggest fan of Alger but he has never been against FBS in the way that Rose was. Our admin does almost too good of a job keeping things close to the vest. I'm sure there's more behind the scenes than we know. As a fan it drives me crazy, but I understand it. JMU will not make a conference look bad
Do I think it's going to happen: no. It's not because of FCS. Three letters: MBB. We are getting a new arena, which is definitely a positive point for moving to a better conference. But there is absolutely no proof to show the AAC that we would be an asset and not a liability. If we somehow make it to the AAC, the admin will have done an incredible job selling us, because one of our key sports is losing money and we are currently hurting the CAA. For the AAC to overlook that, that would be incredible.
If MBB were a success and had a history of success, I think we would have already been in an FBS conference by now.
I think our ONLY chance at this point at FBS is the creation of a new conference.

Ever consider it could be JMU ( football only) and VCU ( basketball ) ?
Football stands on its own. Not saying this is in play, but its a card in the deck.
This move would lock down VA for the AAC and add value to the TV rights.
We could build our MBB program and take it and other sports to the AAC later - lead with our Football program.
CAA football is separate from the CAA and no issue splitting that off .
Hope our leadership is thinking creatively and selling all options.

(07-03-2019 09:17 AM)jmufbs Wrote:  

(07-03-2019 08:17 AM)JMad03 Wrote:  You can't say JMU isn't trying.
We don't have President Rose anymore telling the admin to say no to everything. I may not be the biggest fan of Alger but he has never been against FBS in the way that Rose was. Our admin does almost too good of a job keeping things close to the vest. I'm sure there's more behind the scenes than we know. As a fan it drives me crazy, but I understand it. JMU will not make a conference look bad
Do I think it's going to happen: no. It's not because of FCS. Three letters: MBB. We are getting a new arena, which is definitely a positive point for moving to a better conference. But there is absolutely no proof to show the AAC that we would be an asset and not a liability. If we somehow make it to the AAC, the admin will have done an incredible job selling us, because one of our key sports is losing money and we are currently hurting the CAA. For the AAC to overlook that, that would be incredible.
If MBB were a success and had a history of success, I think we would have already been in an FBS conference by now.
I think our ONLY chance at this point at FBS is the creation of a new conference.

Ever consider it could be JMU ( football only) and VCU ( basketball ) ?
Football stands on its own. Not saying this is in play, but its a card in the deck.
This move would lock down VA for the AAC and add value to the TV rights.
We could build our MBB program and take it and other sports to the AAC later - lead with our Football program.
CAA football is separate from the CAA and no issue splitting that off .
Hope our leadership is thinking creatively and selling all options.

I will admit I didn't consider it as I didn't see it as an option. If it is an option, then I think that is a possibility. That would give us at least a chance to fix MBB and possibly go to AAC as an all sports member.
Capacity at Bridgeforth would have to be addressed and I'm sure it will be if AAC does want us. It would work out pretty well since the new BB arena will be done next year and there isn't a project of that magnitude on the horizon as far as I know. It's not impossible that we could finish the bottom half of the stadium by 2022. I've gotta think it would be a few years anyway if we were somehow invited so the timing would work out.
I believe JMU will definitely have their selling points ready to go. I just hope AAC wants to buy what we're selling.

(07-03-2019 08:25 AM)JMad03 Wrote:  If anything I hope this at least puts to rest the idea that JMU is just sitting on their hands doing absolutely nothing but the 'CAA4Lyfe' BS.

Not courting the more realistic sun belt and cusa options is the definition of not doing enough.

(07-03-2019 10:27 AM)Potomac Wrote:  

(07-03-2019 08:25 AM)JMad03 Wrote:  If anything I hope this at least puts to rest the idea that JMU is just sitting on their hands doing absolutely nothing but the 'CAA4Lyfe' BS.

Not courting the more realistic sun belt and cusa options is the definition of not doing enough.

What’s “realistic” is that JMU has made it very clear the Sun Belt and CUSA are not good fits for all of JMU’s varsity sports. Football will not drive the decision to leave the CAA. Time to accept that reality.

Probably somewhere around a zero percent chance that any conference move for JMU doesn't include an all sports move.

(07-03-2019 11:05 AM)Deez Nuts Wrote:  Probably somewhere around a zero percent chance that any conference move for JMU doesn't include an all sports move.

They’ve said as much in the past, so I think it’s clear that’s what our admin prefers. Although it’s also no secret that JMU did inquire about football-only to the Sun Belt and was told no thanks. We would absolutely go football-only to the AAC. I think that’s an extremely unlikely offer though.

(07-03-2019 11:12 AM)HyperDuke Wrote:  

(07-03-2019 11:05 AM)Deez Nuts Wrote:  Probably somewhere around a zero percent chance that any conference move for JMU doesn't include an all sports move.

They’ve said as much in the past, so I think it’s clear that’s what our admin prefers. Although it’s also no secret that JMU did inquire about football-only to the Sun Belt and was told no thanks. We would absolutely go football-only to the AAC. I think that’s an extremely unlikely offer though.

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(07-03-2019 07:13 AM)Centdukesfan Wrote:  We are going to rescue the AAC.

POST OF THE YEAR.

(07-03-2019 10:34 AM)Longhorn Wrote:  

(07-03-2019 10:27 AM)Potomac Wrote:  

(07-03-2019 08:25 AM)JMad03 Wrote:  If anything I hope this at least puts to rest the idea that JMU is just sitting on their hands doing absolutely nothing but the 'CAA4Lyfe' BS.

Not courting the more realistic sun belt and cusa options is the definition of not doing enough.

What’s “realistic” is that JMU has made it very clear the Sun Belt and CUSA are not good fits for all of JMU’s varsity sports. Football will not drive the decision to leave the CAA. Time to accept that reality.

Definitely agree. Football is a huge deal for the fans, but JMU has made it clear to me, the entirety of our athletics and the university is the priority. There was a slight blip in this when we only offered FCOA to our basketball programs, but that was quickly corrected.

At some point the AAC is going to add a Virginia program.

If ODU ends up in thr AAC and JMU is stuck in the CAA the admin will have **** the bed, an inexcusable **** up that will have cost and will continue to cost the university tens of millions of dollars over time and mountains of PR.

All of the excuses imaginable could not cover the "football alone will not drive decisions" admin bull **** rhetoric on that day.

Your best bet is to be proactive and move up now as an indy. The reasoning is that the AAC doesn't have to do anything yet... unless a waiver is declined by the ncaa. So by the time comes for the AAC to select a school, JMU could possibly be through their transitional 2 years.

I doubt they would wait on you. Plus, it would make you more attractive to other conferences in case the AAC passes.

Didn’t liberty manage to get some kind of “transition” waiver? I’ve forgotten details, but if they managed to pull that off, what’s keeping us from doing the same?

(07-06-2019 02:53 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  Didn’t liberty manage to get some kind of “transition” waiver? I’ve forgotten details, but if they managed to pull that off, what’s keeping us from doing the same?

(07-06-2019 02:53 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  Didn’t liberty manage to get some kind of “transition” waiver? I’ve forgotten details, but if they managed to pull that off, what’s keeping us from doing the same?

I was under the impression their waiver was to be able to be classified as FBS without a conference invitation. Not sure there was anything in that agreement regarding the FCS to FBS transition period.

EDIT: Yep, they have/had a two year transitional period.
https://www.liberty.edu/flames/index.cfm...wsID=20472

EDIT2: If you're asking why we can't move up as an indy...probably because that would be insanely expensive and JMU is not an online degree printing factory?

(07-06-2019 02:53 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  Didn’t liberty manage to get some kind of “transition” waiver? I’ve forgotten details, but if they managed to pull that off, what’s keeping us from doing the same?

The two highest men in our university. Their names rhyme with Salger and Ding.

(07-06-2019 06:49 PM)Potomac Wrote:  

(07-06-2019 02:53 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  Didn’t liberty manage to get some kind of “transition” waiver? I’ve forgotten details, but if they managed to pull that off, what’s keeping us from doing the same?

The two highest men in our university. Their names rhyme with Salger and Ding.

Liberty's 1.4 billion dollar endowment helps a bit too

(07-06-2019 07:44 PM)fishingduke12 Wrote:  

(07-06-2019 06:49 PM)Potomac Wrote:  

(07-06-2019 02:53 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  Didn’t liberty manage to get some kind of “transition” waiver? I’ve forgotten details, but if they managed to pull that off, what’s keeping us from doing the same?

The two highest men in our university. Their names rhyme with Salger and Ding.

Liberty's 1.4 billion dollar endowment helps a bit too

UMASS and Coastal have done it and I would bet JMU is far better off than CCU and possibly UMASS. Filling your schedule wouldn't be hard. The big question would be the waiver (but if they did it for the degree mill...) and where do you park your MBB and olympic sports?