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A $30 million dollar "withdrawal" fee for the next 6 years?

That ought to put to rest any thought that UConn's doing this with a future P5 spot in mind...

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I would bet that is a 5 million per year and it goes down each year.
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First came the exit fees and now we have entry fees?
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To the OP, I think what that means is if UConn leaves in the first 6 years then they'll owe a $30M exit fee.

After that, might be reduced.
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(06-26-2019 02:54 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  First came the exit fees and now we have entry fees?

And also won't share in any NCAA credits earned prior to joining...







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Read the SECOND tweet

$30M exit fee years 1-5, $15M years 6-9, $10M in year 10 and afterwards.

UConn really, really wanted out of the AAC.
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(06-26-2019 02:56 PM)usffan Wrote:  
(06-26-2019 02:54 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  First came the exit fees and now we have entry fees?

And also won't share in any NCAA credits earned prior to joining...







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So they're paying $13.5M just to make the transition and they're taking a pay cut upfront.

Sounds like they desperately wanted out of the AAC or they really think Big East payouts are going to increase a lot in the not too distant future.
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(06-26-2019 02:56 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  To the OP, I think what that means is if UConn leaves in the first 6 years then they'll owe a $30M exit fee.

After that, might be reduced.

Correct. In years 7-9, it's $15MM. Then it drops to the same $10MM it is for everybody else.

Point being, they're not likely to be available without a pretty penny when the Big XII's current contract ends. Which is why I suspect they're out on any future P5 expansion.

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(06-26-2019 03:02 PM)johnbragg Wrote:  Read the SECOND tweet

$30M exit fee years 1-5, $15M years 6-9, $10M in year 10 and afterwards.

UConn really, really wanted out of the AAC.

Also shows that BE isn't buying the notion that UConn's chances at P5 are dead
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(06-26-2019 03:03 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  
(06-26-2019 02:56 PM)usffan Wrote:  
(06-26-2019 02:54 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  First came the exit fees and now we have entry fees?

And also won't share in any NCAA credits earned prior to joining...







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So they're paying $13.5M just to make the transition and they're taking a pay cut upfront.

Sounds like they desperately wanted out of the AAC or they really think Big East payouts are going to increase a lot in the not too distant future.

Yup. It's a bold strategy, Cotton...

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(06-26-2019 03:02 PM)johnbragg Wrote:  UConn really, really wanted out of the AAC.

I read it as: The Big East really, really did not want UConn to drop the BE in the grease in order to jump to a P5 league during ~2024 realignement.

I also read it as UConn punting on FBS football in the near future.
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(06-26-2019 03:05 PM)CougarRed Wrote:  
(06-26-2019 03:02 PM)johnbragg Wrote:  UConn really, really wanted out of the AAC.

I read it as: The Big East really, really did not want UConn to drop the BE in the grease in order to jump to a P5 league during ~2024 realignement.

I also read it as UConn punting on FBS football in the near future.

My read as well...

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(06-26-2019 03:04 PM)usffan Wrote:  
(06-26-2019 02:56 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  To the OP, I think what that means is if UConn leaves in the first 6 years then they'll owe a $30M exit fee.

After that, might be reduced.

Correct. In years 7-9, it's $15MM. Then it drops to the same $10MM it is for everybody else.

Point being, they're not likely to be available without a pretty penny when the Big XII's current contract ends. Which is why I suspect they're out on any future P5 expansion.

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Naah. If the Big 12 called tomorrow with an offer, $30M exit fee isn't stopping UConn. Or, more to the point, in 2024 or 2025.
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(06-26-2019 03:05 PM)usffan Wrote:  
(06-26-2019 03:03 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  
(06-26-2019 02:56 PM)usffan Wrote:  
(06-26-2019 02:54 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  First came the exit fees and now we have entry fees?

And also won't share in any NCAA credits earned prior to joining...







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So they're paying $13.5M just to make the transition and they're taking a pay cut upfront.

Sounds like they desperately wanted out of the AAC or they really think Big East payouts are going to increase a lot in the not too distant future.

Yup. It's a bold strategy, Cotton...

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I'm unfamiliar with the current Big East deal. What's their annual payout right now?

Is UConn factoring in a significant decrease in spending for football? A big time uptick in ticket sales for basketball games going forward?

I'm just a little confused. They already had a big deficit and this move seems like it doesn't solve very many of their problems.

Other than playing games against their more favored rivals again, are they really gaining much?
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Once 2024 realignment happens and UConn is not included, football will be dropped altogether, or dropped to FCS.
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(06-26-2019 03:07 PM)johnbragg Wrote:  
(06-26-2019 03:04 PM)usffan Wrote:  
(06-26-2019 02:56 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  To the OP, I think what that means is if UConn leaves in the first 6 years then they'll owe a $30M exit fee.

After that, might be reduced.

Correct. In years 7-9, it's $15MM. Then it drops to the same $10MM it is for everybody else.

Point being, they're not likely to be available without a pretty penny when the Big XII's current contract ends. Which is why I suspect they're out on any future P5 expansion.

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Naah. If the Big 12 called tomorrow with an offer, $30M exit fee isn't stopping UConn. Or, more to the point, in 2024 or 2025.


No calls are likely going to be made. UConn is going Indy, maybe eventually FCS or drop football.
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(06-26-2019 03:07 PM)johnbragg Wrote:  
(06-26-2019 03:04 PM)usffan Wrote:  
(06-26-2019 02:56 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  To the OP, I think what that means is if UConn leaves in the first 6 years then they'll owe a $30M exit fee.

After that, might be reduced.

Correct. In years 7-9, it's $15MM. Then it drops to the same $10MM it is for everybody else.

Point being, they're not likely to be available without a pretty penny when the Big XII's current contract ends. Which is why I suspect they're out on any future P5 expansion.

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Naah. If the Big 12 called tomorrow with an offer, $30M exit fee isn't stopping UConn. Or, more to the point, in 2024 or 2025.

Not buying it. Not when they're whining about their losses in the AAC right now.

Then again, not buying it anyway when they're sacrificing football for this to begin with.

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(06-26-2019 03:10 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  I'm unfamiliar with the current Big East deal. What's their annual payout right now?

According to the latest Form 990, the Big East distributed about $3.5M per school.

UConn was averaging $9M in the American. Now that included all the old Big East exit fees. Newer American schools were receiving $4M per year.

Under the new American TV deal, per school distributions are expected to be about $8-10M in the early years.

Of course, UConn hopes to make up the revenue difference with travel cost savings, alumni donations, increased ticket sales and perhaps football cost savings if they drop to FCS...
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(06-26-2019 03:11 PM)usffan Wrote:  
(06-26-2019 03:07 PM)johnbragg Wrote:  
(06-26-2019 03:04 PM)usffan Wrote:  
(06-26-2019 02:56 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  To the OP, I think what that means is if UConn leaves in the first 6 years then they'll owe a $30M exit fee.

After that, might be reduced.

Correct. In years 7-9, it's $15MM. Then it drops to the same $10MM it is for everybody else.

Point being, they're not likely to be available without a pretty penny when the Big XII's current contract ends. Which is why I suspect they're out on any future P5 expansion.

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Naah. If the Big 12 called tomorrow with an offer, $30M exit fee isn't stopping UConn. Or, more to the point, in 2024 or 2025.

Not buying it. Not when they're whining about their losses in the AAC right now.

Then again, not buying it anyway when they're sacrificing football for this to begin with.

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Well, if the Big 12 did call then a $30M fee wouldn't be too hard to overcome. The difference in conference payouts is so huge right now.

I think it's just that they know a call isn't coming. They'll never pay the $30M fee because they'll never leave.
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