(06-25-2019 02:42 PM)YNot Wrote:  However, 10-win BYU would have a shot against the likes of '14 Arizona, '17 Washington, '16 Wisconsin, and '14 Ole Miss.

its crazy to be than you think byu would have the same weight with identical record p5 teams...

have you not been following how the committee ranks outsiders??

a 10 win byu (means 2/3 losses depending on the hwaii situations) losses will not crack the top 20 in the cfp poll

11-2 fresno with wins over ucla and top 25 boise..was ranked 21
2 years undefeated ucf never cracked the top 7

(06-25-2019 02:00 PM)pesik Wrote:  the mcmurphy section on byutv about joining the aac

If you guys havent listened to this McMurphy interview from a BYU Sports Call In Show Pony94 posted---its worth a listen. Starts at the 43 minute mark. Spoiler---McMurphy is shockingly supportive of BYU joining the AAC and presents a very compelling case for the BYU joining.

(06-25-2019 03:40 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(06-25-2019 02:00 PM)pesik Wrote:  the mcmurphy section on byutv about joining the aac

If you guys havent listened to this McMurphy interview from a BYU Sports Call In Show Pony94 posted---its worth a listen. Starts at the 43 minute mark. Spoiler---McMurphy is shockingly supportive of BYU joining the AAC and presents a very compelling case for the BYU joining.

Pride and logistics (already scheduled games) are the issues.

But honestly BYU and VCU would be a great match, small step back in basketball giant leap forward in football.

(06-25-2019 04:00 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(06-25-2019 03:40 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(06-25-2019 02:00 PM)pesik Wrote:  the mcmurphy section on byutv about joining the aac

If you guys havent listened to this McMurphy interview from a BYU Sports Call In Show Pony94 posted---its worth a listen. Starts at the 43 minute mark. Spoiler---McMurphy is shockingly supportive of BYU joining the AAC and presents a very compelling case for the BYU joining.

Pride and logistics (already scheduled games) are the issues.

But honestly BYU and VCU would be a great match, small step back in basketball giant leap forward in football.

Don't think McMurphy studied BYU's schedules. If BYU goes 10-2 with those tough schedules they will get a very good bowl. Also BYU will not get the full $7 million in the AAC because they are football only.

(06-25-2019 04:00 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(06-25-2019 03:40 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(06-25-2019 02:00 PM)pesik Wrote:  the mcmurphy section on byutv about joining the aac

If you guys havent listened to this McMurphy interview from a BYU Sports Call In Show Pony94 posted---its worth a listen. Starts at the 43 minute mark. Spoiler---McMurphy is shockingly supportive of BYU joining the AAC and presents a very compelling case for the BYU joining.

Pride and logistics (already scheduled games) are the issues.

But honestly BYU and VCU would be a great match, small step back in basketball giant leap forward in football.

Don't think McMurphy studied BYU's schedules. If they go 10-2 with those tough schedules they will get a very good bowl. Also BYU won't get the full $7 million from the AAC because they would be football only.

https://fbschedules.com/ncaa/byu/

(06-25-2019 04:17 PM)SMUfan Wrote:  

(06-25-2019 04:00 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(06-25-2019 03:40 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(06-25-2019 02:00 PM)pesik Wrote:  the mcmurphy section on byutv about joining the aac

If you guys havent listened to this McMurphy interview from a BYU Sports Call In Show Pony94 posted---its worth a listen. Starts at the 43 minute mark. Spoiler---McMurphy is shockingly supportive of BYU joining the AAC and presents a very compelling case for the BYU joining.

Pride and logistics (already scheduled games) are the issues.

But honestly BYU and VCU would be a great match, small step back in basketball giant leap forward in football.

Don't think McMurphy studied BYU's schedules. If BYU goes 10-2 with those tough schedules they will get a very good bowl. Also BYU will not get the full $7 million in the AAC because they are football only.

Right, but they can still maintain/sell their rights for the other sports.

(06-25-2019 04:22 PM)SMUfan Wrote:  

(06-25-2019 04:00 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(06-25-2019 03:40 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(06-25-2019 02:00 PM)pesik Wrote:  the mcmurphy section on byutv about joining the aac

If you guys havent listened to this McMurphy interview from a BYU Sports Call In Show Pony94 posted---its worth a listen. Starts at the 43 minute mark. Spoiler---McMurphy is shockingly supportive of BYU joining the AAC and presents a very compelling case for the BYU joining.

Pride and logistics (already scheduled games) are the issues.

But honestly BYU and VCU would be a great match, small step back in basketball giant leap forward in football.

Don't think McMurphy studied BYU's schedules. If they go 10-2 with those tough schedules they will get a very good bowl. Also BYU won't get the full $7 million from the AAC because they would be football only.

https://fbschedules.com/ncaa/byu/

What bowl are they going to get? The highest paying bowls are locked up. We have all.but one p5 vs g4 bowl game and most of our bowls aren't all that great.

Ny6? At 10-2 is BYU ranked top 8? Because that's what it takes to get an at large ny6. I agree he didn't look at their schedule though, that's a lot of buy out money to clear space. Even waiting a year or two and pushing some around it's still a huge mountain to climb.

(06-25-2019 04:22 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(06-25-2019 04:17 PM)SMUfan Wrote:  

(06-25-2019 04:00 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(06-25-2019 03:40 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(06-25-2019 02:00 PM)pesik Wrote:  the mcmurphy section on byutv about joining the aac

If you guys havent listened to this McMurphy interview from a BYU Sports Call In Show Pony94 posted---its worth a listen. Starts at the 43 minute mark. Spoiler---McMurphy is shockingly supportive of BYU joining the AAC and presents a very compelling case for the BYU joining.

Pride and logistics (already scheduled games) are the issues.

But honestly BYU and VCU would be a great match, small step back in basketball giant leap forward in football.

Don't think McMurphy studied BYU's schedules. If BYU goes 10-2 with those tough schedules they will get a very good bowl. Also BYU will not get the full $7 million in the AAC because they are football only.

Right, but they can still maintain/sell their rights for the other sports.

Plus at least $1.5M more in CFP money...@$1.8-2M compared to $330k

Very simple, make the call "Hey BYU, do you want in the AMERICAN when when UConn leaves next year? ___YES or ___NO

If they respond with anything but "YES", then the door closes forever like it has for that team from Idaho who thought very highly of themselves... and 11 teams it is!

Same applies to Army, they've had an open invitation since 2012!

(06-25-2019 04:34 PM)gulfcoastgal Wrote:  

(06-25-2019 04:22 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(06-25-2019 04:17 PM)SMUfan Wrote:  

(06-25-2019 04:00 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(06-25-2019 03:40 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  If you guys havent listened to this McMurphy interview from a BYU Sports Call In Show Pony94 posted---its worth a listen. Starts at the 43 minute mark. Spoiler---McMurphy is shockingly supportive of BYU joining the AAC and presents a very compelling case for the BYU joining.

Pride and logistics (already scheduled games) are the issues.

But honestly BYU and VCU would be a great match, small step back in basketball giant leap forward in football.

Don't think McMurphy studied BYU's schedules. If BYU goes 10-2 with those tough schedules they will get a very good bowl. Also BYU will not get the full $7 million in the AAC because they are football only.

Right, but they can still maintain/sell their rights for the other sports.

Plus at least $1.5M more in CFP money...@$1.8-2M compared to $330k

Even at a straight trade they are looking at 5.5m+ for football from media and then the added cfp money so 7-9m a year depending. Then what ever the WCC deal brings in.

The question is does that cover buy outs etc to make it happen? I'm not sure it will.

(06-25-2019 02:00 PM)pesik Wrote:  the mcmurphy section on byutv about joining the aac

Hmmmmm... I wonder if this is the start of a process to condition the BYU fanbase to get on board...

(06-25-2019 04:22 PM)SMUfan Wrote:  

(06-25-2019 04:00 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(06-25-2019 03:40 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(06-25-2019 02:00 PM)pesik Wrote:  the mcmurphy section on byutv about joining the aac

If you guys havent listened to this McMurphy interview from a BYU Sports Call In Show Pony94 posted---its worth a listen. Starts at the 43 minute mark. Spoiler---McMurphy is shockingly supportive of BYU joining the AAC and presents a very compelling case for the BYU joining.

Pride and logistics (already scheduled games) are the issues.

But honestly BYU and VCU would be a great match, small step back in basketball giant leap forward in football.

Don't think McMurphy studied BYU's schedules. If they go 10-2 with those tough schedules they will get a very good bowl. Also BYU won't get the full $7 million from the AAC because they would be football only.

https://fbschedules.com/ncaa/byu/

10-2 gets them the Las Vegas Bowl. Whoopee. They have no chance at 10-2 getting in a NY6 bowl and the money that comes with it bc of the rules currently in place. 11-2 conference champ of the AAC can get that spot. That’s his point.

(06-25-2019 04:35 PM)GoOwls111 Wrote:  Very simple, make the call "Hey BYU, do you want in the AMERICAN when when UConn leaves net year? ___YES or ___NO

If they respond with anything but "YES", then the door closes forever like it has for that team from Idaho who thought very highly of themselves... and 11 teams it is!

Same applies to Army, they've had an open invitation since 2012!

Only a Sith deals in absolutes...

(06-25-2019 04:42 PM)Bull Wrote:  

(06-25-2019 02:00 PM)pesik Wrote:  the mcmurphy section on byutv about joining the aac

Hmmmmm... I wonder if this is the start of a process to condition the BYU fanbase to get on board...

Don't think McMurphy will ever be on the ESPN/AAC Payroll...so I don't think that was the plan (he has been on that show multiple times before).

Now...when the hosts are trying to say that their National Title in 1984 when they beat a 6-5 Michigan team in the Holiday Bowl is what makes BYU relevant today...then will need a lot of indoctrination to come down to earth.

(06-25-2019 02:57 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(06-25-2019 02:42 PM)YNot Wrote:  However, 10-win BYU would have a shot against the likes of '14 Arizona, '17 Washington, '16 Wisconsin, and '14 Ole Miss.

its crazy to be than you think byu would have the same weight with identical record p5 teams...

have you not been following how the committee ranks outsiders??

a 10 win byu (means 2/3 losses depending on the hwaii situations) losses will not crack the top 20 in the cfp poll

11-2 fresno with wins over ucla and top 25 boise..was ranked 21
2 years undefeated ucf never cracked the top 7

Depends on the teams and who BYU played to get to 10 wins. No one has a clue how the selection committee would rank BYU, as they haven't been in position to be ranked for the last 6 years. Sad.

I do know that BYU got to #20 last year with a 3-1 record, with wins @Arizona, @Wisconsin and FCS payday home game, despite the home loss to California....but that's a tiny and largely irrelevant sample size from which to draw any CFP conclusions.

Fresno State lost to mediocre Minnesota and UCLA (3-9) was really bad last year. And, they lost to Boise during the regular season. Who was Fresno's next best win besides Boise St. in the MWC CCG? 3-9 UCLA? 6-6 BYU? 7-5 SDSU? 6-6 Wyoming? 7-5 Toledo? That's why Fresno was ranked #21.

Show me an 11-win Fresno with some quality wins and then your comparison will carry some weight.

(06-25-2019 05:16 PM)YNot Wrote:  

(06-25-2019 02:57 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(06-25-2019 02:42 PM)YNot Wrote:  However, 10-win BYU would have a shot against the likes of '14 Arizona, '17 Washington, '16 Wisconsin, and '14 Ole Miss.

its crazy to be than you think byu would have the same weight with identical record p5 teams...

have you not been following how the committee ranks outsiders??

a 10 win byu (means 2/3 losses depending on the hwaii situations) losses will not crack the top 20 in the cfp poll

11-2 fresno with wins over ucla and top 25 boise..was ranked 21
2 years undefeated ucf never cracked the top 7

Depends on the teams and who BYU played to get to 10 wins. No one has a clue how the selection committee would rank BYU, as they haven't been in position to be ranked for the last 6 years. Sad.

I do know that BYU got to #20 last year with a 3-1 record, with wins @Arizona, @Wisconsin and FCS payday home game, despite the home loss to California....but that's a tiny and largely irrelevant sample size from which to draw any CFP conclusions.

Fresno State lost to mediocre Minnesota and UCLA (3-9) was really bad last year. And, they lost to Boise during the regular season. Who was Fresno's next best win besides Boise St. in the MWC CCG? 3-9 UCLA? 6-6 BYU? 7-5 SDSU? 6-6 Wyoming? 7-5 Toledo? That's why Fresno was ranked #21.

Show me an 11-win Fresno with some quality wins and then your comparison will carry some weight.

Do you know who you are talking to????

One does not argue with Coach P. He knows all. He see's all.

(06-25-2019 05:16 PM)YNot Wrote:  

(06-25-2019 02:57 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(06-25-2019 02:42 PM)YNot Wrote:  However, 10-win BYU would have a shot against the likes of '14 Arizona, '17 Washington, '16 Wisconsin, and '14 Ole Miss.

its crazy to be than you think byu would have the same weight with identical record p5 teams...

have you not been following how the committee ranks outsiders??

a 10 win byu (means 2/3 losses depending on the hwaii situations) losses will not crack the top 20 in the cfp poll

11-2 fresno with wins over ucla and top 25 boise..was ranked 21
2 years undefeated ucf never cracked the top 7

Depends on the teams and who BYU played to get to 10 wins. No one has a clue how the selection committee would rank BYU, as they haven't been in position to be ranked for the last 6 years. Sad.

I do know that BYU got to #20 last year with a 3-1 record, with wins @Arizona, @Wisconsin and FCS payday home game, despite the home loss to California....but that's a tiny and largely irrelevant sample size from which to draw any CFP conclusions.

Fresno State lost to mediocre Minnesota and UCLA (3-9) was really bad last year. And, they lost to Boise during the regular season. Who was Fresno's next best win besides Boise St. in the MWC CCG? 3-9 UCLA? 6-6 BYU? 7-5 SDSU? 6-6 Wyoming? 7-5 Toledo? That's why Fresno was ranked #21.

Show me an 11-win Fresno with some quality wins and then your comparison will carry some weight.

the coaches and ap polls are favorable to outsiders
the cfp is not

look at this rankings (note where Mississippi state is and where houston is.. in both rankings)
https://www.espn.com/college-football/ra...asontype/2

- Mississippi stat had no top 25 wins ..and one of their losses was to an unranked a&m

and you can tell how theyd rank byu...its the sole reason the big 12 got a CCG..
the committee has been vocal that they will always favor those who play in a conference championship game and conferences
that they will never punish a team for losing in a conference championship game ..a lot of those 2 loss teams that you think byu would jump were ccg losers

and your schedule has big name brands teams but non of them are actually good (top 10 level)

(06-25-2019 02:39 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(06-25-2019 02:36 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Dennis Dodd
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Sources at Army said the current mood is to remain independent. Officials would have to take into account CUSA foray from 1998-2004. Black Knights were in a league that featured top 10 and undefeated Clemson. Memphis, UL & Cincinnati were in various states of strength ...

That wasn’t Clemson. It was Tulane. 12-0 and ranked #7 in post-bowl polls.

Tulane Clemson...same thing LOL

(06-25-2019 04:40 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(06-25-2019 04:34 PM)gulfcoastgal Wrote:  

(06-25-2019 04:22 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(06-25-2019 04:17 PM)SMUfan Wrote:  

(06-25-2019 04:00 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  Pride and logistics (already scheduled games) are the issues.

But honestly BYU and VCU would be a great match, small step back in basketball giant leap forward in football.

Don't think McMurphy studied BYU's schedules. If BYU goes 10-2 with those tough schedules they will get a very good bowl. Also BYU will not get the full $7 million in the AAC because they are football only.

Right, but they can still maintain/sell their rights for the other sports.

Plus at least $1.5M more in CFP money...@$1.8-2M compared to $330k

Even at a straight trade they are looking at 5.5m+ for football from media and then the added cfp money so 7-9m a year depending. Then what ever the WCC deal brings in.

The question is does that cover buy outs etc to make it happen? I'm not sure it will.

Yeah, I have no idea about that. What did Navy do with their schedules? Seems like the main Navy contributor mentioned pushing at least one series back. I suppose where there’s a will, there’s a way...just not sure a strong enough will is there.

(06-25-2019 04:56 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(06-25-2019 04:35 PM)GoOwls111 Wrote:  Very simple, make the call "Hey BYU, do you want in the AMERICAN when when UConn leaves net year? ___YES or ___NO

If they respond with anything but "YES", then the door closes forever like it has for that team from Idaho who thought very highly of themselves... and 11 teams it is!

Same applies to Army, they've had an open invitation since 2012!

Only a Sith deals in absolutes...

Live long and prosper.