https://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/...553756001/

This according to "a source with close ties to the league."

The source also says Boise State "shouldn’t be seriously considered as a target" for AAC expansion because "there would likely be no benefits for the Broncos to leave the Mountain West Conference for any conference not among the Power Five."

If TV deal stays same no reason to add anyone. just and extra 600k per school each year.

Is the tv deal worth it without UConn's women's basketball? AAC lost a major tv market. If they do not expand to replace that market? Would ESPN rework the tv deal for less money since the conference took a hit.

https://twitter.com/Ourand_SBJ/status/11...s-espn-cbs


John Ourand
‏Verified account @Ourand_SBJ

John Ourand Retweeted Stewart Mandel

The deal does not include a Grant of Rights. But ESPN did get a "conference composition clause" in the contract that protects the network financially if any of the AAC’s top brands exit.

(06-25-2019 02:40 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  Is the tv deal worth it without UConn's women's basketball? AAC lost a major tv market. If they do not expand to replace that market? Would ESPN rework the tv deal for less money since the conference took a hit.

Women’s Bball is a deal breaker, that’s hilarious.

(06-25-2019 02:55 AM)TodgeRodge Wrote:  https://twitter.com/Ourand_SBJ/status/11...s-espn-cbs


John Ourand
‏Verified account @Ourand_SBJ

John Ourand Retweeted Stewart Mandel

The deal does not include a Grant of Rights. But ESPN did get a "conference composition clause" in the contract that protects the network financially if any of the AAC’s top brands exit.

UConn was one of the AAC's top brand.

Notice the word brand was plural.

AAC got to take advantage of move
Let SNY buy Conn home FB games
Split 7 million a yr
Get 6 BE BB games a yr
Conn stays, no problem with CCG
Collect 2 million dollar exit fee

(06-25-2019 04:21 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  Notice the word brand was plural.

"Any of the top brands" makes it singular or plural. Could mean if one school left or five. I imagine it's worded that way to back out of money in any situation. However, I don't think UConn qualifies. When I think AAC, I'm thinking Cincy, Houston, UCF in no particular order. Just an outside perspective. UConn has sucked at football for too long and their basketball is pretty meh, lately.

(06-25-2019 03:26 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(06-25-2019 02:55 AM)TodgeRodge Wrote:  https://twitter.com/Ourand_SBJ/status/11...s-espn-cbs


John Ourand
‏Verified account @Ourand_SBJ

John Ourand Retweeted Stewart Mandel

The deal does not include a Grant of Rights. But ESPN did get a "conference composition clause" in the contract that protects the network financially if any of the AAC’s top brands exit.

UConn was one of the AAC's top brand.

In basketball.

Worst program in football.

Football drives 75% of conference TV deals.


C. Austin Cox
@C_Austin_Cox
Confirmed: UConn's departure will NOT impact the AAC's new TV deal with ESPN. AAC will not allow football-only for UConn in the league due to poor performance from the program and lack of value it would bring. Huskies are expected to pay $10M exit fee.
11:50 AM · Jun 22, 2019

(06-25-2019 06:53 AM)CougarRed Wrote:  

(06-25-2019 03:26 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(06-25-2019 02:55 AM)TodgeRodge Wrote:  https://twitter.com/Ourand_SBJ/status/11...s-espn-cbs


John Ourand
‏Verified account @Ourand_SBJ

John Ourand Retweeted Stewart Mandel

The deal does not include a Grant of Rights. But ESPN did get a "conference composition clause" in the contract that protects the network financially if any of the AAC’s top brands exit.

UConn was one of the AAC's top brand.

In basketball.

Worst program in football.

Football drives 75% of conference TV deals.


C. Austin Cox
@C_Austin_Cox
Confirmed: UConn's departure will NOT impact the AAC's new TV deal with ESPN. AAC will not allow football-only for UConn in the league due to poor performance from the program and lack of value it would bring. Huskies are expected to pay $10M exit fee.
11:50 AM · Jun 22, 2019

not impacting it does not necessarily mean that ESPN keeps paying the same money....it can just as easily mean that the per team distribution stays the same

I see little chance that ESPN went with no GOR and included a continuity clause only to watch one team leave before the first money has even been paid on the contract and they are going to keep paying the contract in full as if it was 12 teams for another 12 years

(06-25-2019 05:55 AM)MUther Wrote:  

(06-25-2019 04:21 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  Notice the word brand was plural.

"Any of the top brands" makes it singular or plural. Could mean if one school left or five. I imagine it's worded that way to back out of money in any situation. However, I don't think UConn qualifies. When I think AAC, I'm thinking Cincy, Houston, UCF in no particular order. Just an outside perspective. UConn has sucked at football for too long and their basketball is pretty meh, lately.

According to this board, UConn as a state flagship is the only school that mattered in the AAC. That is gone, and the teams in the AAC will get bumped down to $500K/year per team. (Sarcasm alert)

(06-25-2019 12:56 AM)HawaiiMongoose Wrote:  https://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/...553756001/

This according to "a source with close ties to the league."

The source also says Boise State "shouldn’t be seriously considered as a target" for AAC expansion because "there would likely be no benefits for the Broncos to leave the Mountain West Conference for any conference not among the Power Five."

According to that source, the AAC can just ditch divisions and send its top two to the CCG.

Now, according to NCAA rules, that would require the AAC playing a 10 game round robin, because sending top two to the CCG required a full conference round robin. Be interesting to hear what Navy thinks about that concept.

I think there's a bit of discussion being bandied about in terms of what the conference would like to do, which includes more than a little bit of an ambit claim in terms of what the conference is entitled to demand under NCAA rules.

(1) They are entitled to play a 10 game conference round robin and host a top two CCG
(2) They are entitled to play a mostly 8 game conference schedule with two divisions, (say, West 6, East 5), while a (probably rotating) pair of Eastern conference schools play a 7 game conference schedule, for 18 interdivision games a year.
(3) They are entitled to play a mostly 8 game conference schedule with two divisions, (say, West 6, East 5), while a (probably rotating) pair of Western conference schools play a 9 game conference schedule, for 20 interdivision games a year.
(4) They are not strictly entitled to, but on past precedent on a temporary basis could reasonably expect to gain a waiver to play a strictly 8 game conference schedule with two divisions, with a (probably rotating) pair of western schools skipping playing each other, for 20 interdivision games a year.

If they figure that by 2027 everything will have been turned topsy turvey, they could kick the can down the road by:
(KTC1) applying for a waiver for three years, to give themselves a chance to sort things out
(KTC2) Then shuttle **** between (2) and (3) until being raided or (I am sure preferably from their perspective) an opportunity to usefully raid allows the imbalance to be sorted out.

(06-25-2019 05:55 AM)MUther Wrote:  

(06-25-2019 04:21 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  Notice the word brand was plural.

"Any of the top brands" makes it singular or plural. Could mean if one school left or five. I imagine it's worded that way to back out of money in any situation. However, I don't think UConn qualifies. When I think AAC, I'm thinking Cincy, Houston, UCF in no particular order. Just an outside perspective. UConn has sucked at football for too long and their basketball is pretty meh, lately.

In two separate interviews (one on Orlando radio and one on Memphis), Michael Smith (who broke the media deal story along with John Ourand) lists UCF, UC, Houston and Memphis as premium, blue chip brands in the AAC when talking about the politics, haves and have nots, and GOR subjects. I thought it odd that UCONN wasn’t included in his list...not making assumptions just noting who he specified. The Memphis pres. also mentioned in an interview that the contract contains a better composition clause...in terms of protection compared to the previous contract. I’d be shocked, however, if the schools come out ahead as some suggest. No material difference is more believable than a raise.

This is perfect because it creates never ending speculation of who the AAC will add. The boards are going to busy for quite a while, boys and girls!

(06-25-2019 08:25 AM)esayem Wrote:  This is perfect because it creates never ending speculation of who the AAC will add. The boards are going to busy for quite a while, boys and girls!

yep, and if the AAC adds, you have the corresponding moves as well. So it's a constant state of moving.

(06-25-2019 08:25 AM)esayem Wrote:  This is perfect because it creates never ending speculation of who the AAC will add. The boards are going to busy for quite a while, boys and girls!

I think the answer is going to be nobody.

(06-25-2019 08:19 AM)gulfcoastgal Wrote:  

(06-25-2019 05:55 AM)MUther Wrote:  

(06-25-2019 04:21 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  Notice the word brand was plural.

"Any of the top brands" makes it singular or plural. Could mean if one school left or five. I imagine it's worded that way to back out of money in any situation. However, I don't think UConn qualifies. When I think AAC, I'm thinking Cincy, Houston, UCF in no particular order. Just an outside perspective. UConn has sucked at football for too long and their basketball is pretty meh, lately.

In two separate interviews (one on Orlando radio and one on Memphis), Michael Smith (who broke the media deal story along with John Ourand) lists UCF, UC, Houston and Memphis as premium, blue chip brands in the AAC when talking about the politics, haves and have nots, and GOR subjects. I thought it odd that UCONN wasn’t included in his list...not making assumptions just noting who he specified. The Memphis pres. also mentioned in an interview that the contract contains a better composition clause...in terms of protection compared to the previous contract. I’d be shocked, however, if the schools come out ahead as some suggest. No material difference is more believable than a raise.

That seems about right to me if the value is built around FB.

Navy have to drop Air Force, Army or Notre Dame game. I do not think Navy wants to play 10 teams for round robin and keep those 3. I guess they want the AAC to add a 12th football school to keep those 3 for ooc games.

Having UConn leave will probably amount to a reduction of TV money for 1/12th the total. I still think the total per school will remain the same, not up or down.