UConn was all up and arms against ESPN new tv deal from the get go while Fox takes advantage jumps at the opportunity and steals live basketball content at ESPN's expense.

Could we witness a ESPN retaliation?? I like to think so.

(06-23-2019 08:30 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  Any way you slice it, losing UCONN is a hit to the AAC hoops and a win for the Big East. We were already facing the 'mid major' moniker by many talking heads while the Big East was seen as Power. This will only add to that.

And while the AAC schools will 'get' to continue to play lame butt conference tourney in a member school arena, UCONN will be highlighted in MSG for the Big East tourney and believe me, it will be packed when they play there, just like it used to be.

I realize football drives the bus yada yada yada and yes, this is the death stroke to UCONN football, but I think they already gave up so they don't care.

There is no add in hoops that will help this. We can add a fb brand that will be an increase, but not hoops.

I have zero faith in AAC leadership and see another CUSA/MAC/Sunbelt team added all sports which, when paired with ecu, tulsa, tulane will only further dilute the conference.

I'm not happy about this and it make me want to see UC get out asap. Alas, there is no place to go right now.

Yea, because God knows Cincy has always been a world beater and never constantly lost to FCS opponents in the 1980s and regularly had 1 and 2 win seasons. I know you guys won the watered down Big East in 2008 and 2009, just to get blown out by Va Tech and Florida, but come on. Who the hell do you think you are?

The AAC of 2017- present does circles around those Big East years where y'all and the soon to be departed UCONN Huskies won the league.
Mostly because of Bobby Petrino leaving Louisville and Rich Rod leaving WVU.

For the record, I love Memphis being conference mates with Cincy. It's a decent rivalry with two storied basketball traditions. But where do you get off thinking your program is more deserving. How?

With the BIG success of AAC inviting Wichita St for Hoops only(no one else really cares about the other olympic sports) and how Navy for Football Only has been a success for the conf...I think the AAC will look at:

1) Football Only Invite

and then

2) Basketball Only Invite...(yeah, throw your olympic sports in too)

This is the best of both worlds as it actually IMPROVES AAC Football (UCONN was mostly pathetic) and even AAC Basketball (UCONN has gone 7-11 and 6-12 the last 2 seasons and then just .500 prior to that).

Our Basketball will be fine.

I am all in adding VCU or Dayton. But i think Cincy will be against adding Dayton

BYU Basketball is not bad either.

My suggestion for American Basketball is to put our Basketball tourny in Brooklyn. Orlando didn't work and neither would Dallas. Being in NYC is a huge motivation for the fans

We need to create a brand for Basketball. Winning in the tourny times is critical. Hope my team UCF will get there

(06-23-2019 10:58 AM)AGuyIn_Water Wrote:  Our Basketball will be fine.

I am all in adding VCU or Dayton. But i think Cincy will be against adding Dayton

BYU Basketball is not bad either.

My suggestion for American Basketball is to put our Basketball tourny in Brooklyn. Orlando didn't work and neither would Dallas. Being in NYC is a huge motivation for the fans

We need to create a brand for Basketball. Winning in the tourny times is critical. Hope my team UCF will get there

So, in the future with no teams near the NYC market, except for maybe Temple: You want to move the tournament to Brooklyn and expect that too solve conference tourney attendance issues. What in the living hell are you smoking my man? Because that's what I need to be on.

(06-23-2019 09:05 AM)Agust Wrote:  

(06-23-2019 08:46 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(06-23-2019 08:41 AM)Agust Wrote:  Aresco is not in favor of expansion and even wanted to play a round robin format.
if the right add isn't there i doubt we expand.

he's also done some great movement and negotiations and being a business man he knows full well about only adding value.

if it's not byu or san diego were staying put.

I agree.

But with 11, we won't play round robin in BB, b/c a few teams (like Memphis) want more OOC games to meet a minimum # of home games.

At least now we'll be H&H with all but 2 teams in 2020-21.

Would one more school volunteer to leave, lol?

Come to think of it would Aresco be ballsy enough to dropping a member?
things might get interesting. i'd imagine he kick the tires a bit on expanding for the right schools first.

Presidents device, not Commissioners.

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The Left Behinds were left behind for a reason, they don't bring much.

UConn's hasn't made the NCAA in 4 seasons...stay at 11

(06-23-2019 10:58 AM)AGuyIn_Water Wrote:  Our Basketball will be fine.

I am all in adding VCU or Dayton. But i think Cincy will be against adding Dayton

BYU Basketball is not bad either.

My suggestion for American Basketball is to put our Basketball tourny in Brooklyn. Orlando didn't work and neither would Dallas. Being in NYC is a huge motivation for the fans

We need to create a brand for Basketball. Winning in the tourny times is critical. Hope my team UCF will get there

Wtf. Brooklyn? If you wanna be big east join UConn.

Why is everyone so anxious to grab a g4 program that is not capable of adding cash value to our programs (VCU and others)? Just like the NBE and UCONN are basically calling for a do over, we should do the same. We have to also think strategic. First offer Boise and SDSU again ( as full members) because there is no way in either would refuse this time especially for 7mill. Now not only have we vastly improved the football side, but we will be leaving the g4 even farther behind in performance and perception while locking down the ny6 bowl. With those two I'd feel fairly confident that any 3rd team that we would want will see the writing on the wall and jump at an invitation (CSU, Fresno, Airforce, maybe even byu). At that point we will have a genuine western wing that will allow Gonzaga to come in.
14 football members
15 basketball members.
West
SDSU
Boise
Airforce/Gonzaga or byu
Houston
SMU
Tulsa
Navy
East-----‐
Memphis
Cincy
Temple
UCF
USF
ECU
Tulane
Now would ESPN help IDK, but there's only one way to find out. This situation is like a free play in football because the defense jumped off sides. THROW IT DEEP LOLOL.

(06-23-2019 11:58 AM)Tigersmoke4 Wrote:  Why is everyone so anxious to grab a g4 program that is not capable of adding cash value to our programs (VCU and others)? Just like the NBE and UCONN are basically calling for a do over, we should do the same. We have to also think strategic. First offer Boise and SDSU again ( as full members) because there is no way in either would refuse this time especially for 7mill. Now not only have we vastly improved the football side, but we will be leaving the g4 even farther behind in performance and perception while locking down the ny6 bowl. With those two I'd feel fairly confident that any 3rd team that we would want will see the writing on the wall and jump at an invitation (CSU, Fresno, Airforce, maybe even byu). At that point we will have a genuine western wing that will allow Gonzaga to come in.
14 football members
15 basketball members.
West
SDSU
Boise
Airforce/Gonzaga or byu
Houston
SMU
Tulsa
Navy
East-----‐
Memphis
Cincy
Temple
UCF
USF
ECU
Tulane
Now would ESPN help IDK, but there's only one way to find out. This situation is like a free play in football because the defense jumped off sides. THROW IT DEEP LOLOL.

stay at 11

(06-23-2019 11:48 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  UConn's hasn't made the NCAA in 4 seasons...stay at 11

We need to add someone at least for other sports. Baseball definitely with the pooroo schools not sponsoring baseball. Down to 8 baseball schools.

Definitely don't need to panic for football. Frankly losing UConn football helps our SOS. Push for a boise State fb only or BYU.

I'm less excited now about Army since we won't get the revenue share for that Navy-Army game and dealing with another triple option team for injuries.

(06-23-2019 12:04 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(06-23-2019 11:48 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  UConn's hasn't made the NCAA in 4 seasons...stay at 11

We need to add someone at least for other sports. why? I see no pressing need Baseball definitely with the pooroo schools not sponsoring baseball. Down to 8 baseball schools. you only need 7...so 8 is fine.

there is zero need to expand and need drives expansion...stay at 11

(06-23-2019 11:48 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  UConn's hasn't made the NCAA in 4 seasons...stay at 11

Except we would lose our AAC CCG in football.

(06-23-2019 12:08 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(06-23-2019 11:48 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  UConn's hasn't made the NCAA in 4 seasons...stay at 11

Except we would lose our AAC CCG in football.

I don't see anything that says you can't have uneven divisions (it only says you have to play everyone in your division)...6/5 works for me.

East: Cincy, Temple, Navy, ECU, USF, UCF
West: Houston, Memphis, SMU, Tulsa, Tulane

(06-23-2019 12:01 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(06-23-2019 11:58 AM)Tigersmoke4 Wrote:  Why is everyone so anxious to grab a g4 program that is not capable of adding cash value to our programs (VCU and others)? Just like the NBE and UCONN are basically calling for a do over, we should do the same. We have to also think strategic. First offer Boise and SDSU again ( as full members) because there is no way in either would refuse this time especially for 7mill. Now not only have we vastly improved the football side, but we will be leaving the g4 even farther behind in performance and perception while locking down the ny6 bowl. With those two I'd feel fairly confident that any 3rd team that we would want will see the writing on the wall and jump at an invitation (CSU, Fresno, Airforce, maybe even byu). At that point we will have a genuine western wing that will allow Gonzaga to come in.
14 football members
15 basketball members.
West
SDSU
Boise
Airforce/Gonzaga or byu
Houston
SMU
Tulsa
Navy
East-----‐
Memphis
Cincy
Temple
UCF
USF
ECU
Tulane
Now would ESPN help IDK, but there's only one way to find out. This situation is like a free play in football because the defense jumped off sides. THROW IT DEEP LOLOL.

stay at 11

Like I said it's a free play. Go big. The worst thing that can happen is we'll still end up at 11, which is where we are at anyway. We literally have nothing to lose or to be afraid of.

(06-23-2019 12:16 PM)Tigersmoke4 Wrote:  

(06-23-2019 12:01 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(06-23-2019 11:58 AM)Tigersmoke4 Wrote:  Why is everyone so anxious to grab a g4 program that is not capable of adding cash value to our programs (VCU and others)? Just like the NBE and UCONN are basically calling for a do over, we should do the same. We have to also think strategic. First offer Boise and SDSU again ( as full members) because there is no way in either would refuse this time especially for 7mill. Now not only have we vastly improved the football side, but we will be leaving the g4 even farther behind in performance and perception while locking down the ny6 bowl. With those two I'd feel fairly confident that any 3rd team that we would want will see the writing on the wall and jump at an invitation (CSU, Fresno, Airforce, maybe even byu). At that point we will have a genuine western wing that will allow Gonzaga to come in.
14 football members
15 basketball members.
West
SDSU
Boise
Airforce/Gonzaga or byu
Houston
SMU
Tulsa
Navy
East-----‐
Memphis
Cincy
Temple
UCF
USF
ECU
Tulane
Now would ESPN help IDK, but there's only one way to find out. This situation is like a free play in football because the defense jumped off sides. THROW IT DEEP LOLOL.

stay at 11

Like I said it's a free play. Go big. The worst thing that can happen is we'll still end up at 11, which is where we are at anyway. We literally have nothing to lose or to be afraid of.

splitting the pie 11 ways means more pie for us...I don't want to share with another team nor do we want to give ESPN a chance to lower our deal.

stay at 11 and ride out our 12 year contract as is...split 11 ways.

It's a hoops hit, especially perception wise. It's a football opportunity.

(06-23-2019 12:09 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(06-23-2019 12:08 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(06-23-2019 11:48 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  UConn's hasn't made the NCAA in 4 seasons...stay at 11

Except we would lose our AAC CCG in football.

I don't see anything that says you can't have uneven divisions (it only says you have to play everyone in your division)...6/5 works for me.

East: Cincy, Temple, Navy, ECU, USF, UCF
West: Houston, Memphis, SMU, Tulsa, Tulane

When UMass was recently in the MAC they had uneven divisions but still held a CCG.

(06-23-2019 11:58 AM)Tigersmoke4 Wrote:  Why is everyone so anxious to grab a g4 program that is not capable of adding cash value to our programs (VCU and others)? Just like the NBE and UCONN are basically calling for a do over, we should do the same. We have to also think strategic. First offer Boise and SDSU again ( as full members) because there is no way in either would refuse this time especially for 7mill. Now not only have we vastly improved the football side, but we will be leaving the g4 even farther behind in performance and perception while locking down the ny6 bowl. With those two I'd feel fairly confident that any 3rd team that we would want will see the writing on the wall and jump at an invitation (CSU, Fresno, Airforce, maybe even byu). At that point we will have a genuine western wing that will allow Gonzaga to come in.
14 football members
15 basketball members.
West
SDSU
Boise
Airforce/Gonzaga or byu
Houston
SMU
Tulsa
Navy
East-----‐
Memphis
Cincy
Temple
UCF
USF
ECU
Tulane
Now would ESPN help IDK, but there's only one way to find out. This situation is like a free play in football because the defense jumped off sides. THROW IT DEEP LOLOL.

Switch Memphis with Navy and you've got yourself a conference. (And if Navy throws a fit, tell them to shut up or get out.)