(06-09-2019 06:56 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(06-09-2019 02:42 AM)tnzazz Wrote:  

(06-08-2019 03:25 PM)TigerBill Wrote:  

(06-06-2019 08:34 PM)tnzazz Wrote:  

(06-03-2019 09:04 AM)TigerBill Wrote:  Thank you. The books are available everywhere, although you might have to special order them in places. I turned in the new book yesterday by the way, so maybe a month before it's out. Have you seen the cover yet? Also, the non fiction WW2 book is going to the printer this week and should be available this month too.

As for Nick, I always pictured him more as a strong safety.

Love military history. I own all the Ken Burns documentaries.

Being D-Day, might need to watch Saving Private Ryan. My grandfather served under Patton.


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Patton was about the only top flight army commander we had, but he was hamstrung by having lesser men command him. I don't know if you like Eastern Front WW2, Germans v. Russians, but that's what the new book is about, the battle for Austria in 1945.

That’s an interesting subject. Less is known by us, but the Eastern Front was brutal from what I know.


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As long as we are off topic.....I know it's not a popular belief in the west but Russia virtually won the victory over Germany. Russian has got to be the definition of grinding. They just kept grinding in the face of impossible odds & hardship & virtually chewed up millions of German soldiers & most of their resources in Hilter's desire to rule all of Russia as well as Europe. Just look at the stats from the battle of Stalingrad (the region) - Germany lost near a million men (killed, wounded or captured), close to 1000 aircraft, over 500 tanks & over 1000 artillery pieces while attempting to take Stalingrad. Had Hilter instead focused on the west, Germany might well include all of western Europe today.

I hear you. They also did it with little food and arctic conditions


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(06-09-2019 09:36 AM)TigerBill Wrote:  

(06-09-2019 06:56 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(06-09-2019 02:42 AM)tnzazz Wrote:  

(06-08-2019 03:25 PM)TigerBill Wrote:  

(06-06-2019 08:34 PM)tnzazz Wrote:  Love military history. I own all the Ken Burns documentaries.

Being D-Day, might need to watch Saving Private Ryan. My grandfather served under Patton.


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Patton was about the only top flight army commander we had, but he was hamstrung by having lesser men command him. I don't know if you like Eastern Front WW2, Germans v. Russians, but that's what the new book is about, the battle for Austria in 1945.

That’s an interesting subject. Less is known by us, but the Eastern Front was brutal from what I know.


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As long as we are off topic.....I know it's not a popular belief in the west but Russia virtually won the victory over Germany. Russian has got to be the definition of grinding. They just kept grinding in the face of impossible odds & hardship & virtually chewed up millions of German soldiers & most of their resources in Hilter's desire to rule all of Russia as well as Europe. Just look at the stats from the battle of Stalingrad (the region) - Germany lost near a million men (killed, wounded or captured), close to 1000 aircraft, over 500 tanks & over 1000 artillery pieces while attempting to take Stalingrad. Had Hilter instead focused on the west, Germany might well include all of western Europe today.

Officially, right at 2 of every 3 German soldiers lost were lost to the Russians. However, the postwar evidence is conclusive that Russia was going to attack Germany eventually, so there was going to be war regardless.

The new book is about the fight for Austria in 1945, which has never been fully covered in English before. 17 Waffen SS divisions were there at the end, it was a huge fight.

I’d love to read it.


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Since we've gone way OT... I didn't realize so many people get their ass holes bleached. Really stunning numbers, for both men and women.

(06-09-2019 11:26 AM)HuskyU Wrote:  Since we've gone way OT... I didn't realize so many people get their ass holes bleached. Really stunning numbers, for both men and women.

I dyed mine Tiger blue.

I will say that I’m anxious to see what UConn does this year.


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(06-08-2019 05:15 PM)rosewater Wrote:  

(06-08-2019 01:12 PM)StillJonesing Wrote:  

(06-07-2019 07:28 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(06-07-2019 12:46 PM)Wudizzle Wrote:  

(06-07-2019 12:38 PM)StillJonesing Wrote:  McNeal is 6-1. I'm talking about your center situation.

They don't have a center situation, which is why they are all so confused.

Yea. We're not staying any grad transfer at center next year.

So who is starting at center?

Mamadou diarra

Huge downgrade imo, when I watched Cincinnati this year they were a much better team with Brooks in the game. Guy was a huge loss imo. How does Cincy transition to a scoring team with this roster? Other than Cumberland and Jennifer it seemed you had a lot of guys that couldn't throw it in the ocean but could defend. Brooks was the foundation of that elite defense.

(06-09-2019 12:24 PM)oasispirate Wrote:  

(06-08-2019 05:15 PM)rosewater Wrote:  

(06-08-2019 01:12 PM)StillJonesing Wrote:  

(06-07-2019 07:28 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(06-07-2019 12:46 PM)Wudizzle Wrote:  They don't have a center situation, which is why they are all so confused.

Yea. We're not staying any grad transfer at center next year.

So who is starting at center?

Mamadou diarra

Huge downgrade imo, when I watched Cincinnati this year they were a much better team with Brooks in the game. Guy was a huge loss imo. How does Cincy transition to a scoring team with this roster? Other than Cumberland and Jennifer it seemed you had a lot of guys that couldn't throw it in the ocean but could defend. Brooks was the foundation of that elite defense.

brooks was not the foundation of their defense ..it was Keith Williams and i dont think it was close..Williams defended the top scoring guard of the opposing teams every night...second it would be tre scott who despite being a 4 would defend the #2 scoring guard/ or #1 if Williams was out..
(ie.. Williams guarded corey davis, tre scott defended armoni brooks)

brooks handled the paint, but lets not act like the aac was running rampant with high scoring bigs

houston gave cincy their worst home loss in 5 years (scoring 85 despite pulling our horses early)...and a huge part of that was williams got in foul trouble and on the bench..while there are dominant defensive games they had where brooks played 10mins
cincy will have defensive questions but it will be more system than player

as far as offense, their top 3 scorers from last year return..they added a 17pt grad transfer and a 10pt grad transfer

Predicted Rank by Average:

1.Memphis
2. Houston
3. Cincy
4. WSU
5. UConn
6. USF
7. Temple
8. Tulsa
9. SMU
10. UCF
11. ECU
12. Tulane

(06-09-2019 01:04 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(06-09-2019 12:24 PM)oasispirate Wrote:  

(06-08-2019 05:15 PM)rosewater Wrote:  

(06-08-2019 01:12 PM)StillJonesing Wrote:  

(06-07-2019 07:28 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  Yea. We're not staying any grad transfer at center next year.

So who is starting at center?

Mamadou diarra

Huge downgrade imo, when I watched Cincinnati this year they were a much better team with Brooks in the game. Guy was a huge loss imo. How does Cincy transition to a scoring team with this roster? Other than Cumberland and Jennifer it seemed you had a lot of guys that couldn't throw it in the ocean but could defend. Brooks was the foundation of that elite defense.

brooks was not the foundation of their defense ..it was Keith Williams and i dont think it was close..Williams defended the top scoring guard of the opposing teams every night...second it would be tre scott who despite being a 4 would defend the #2 scoring guard/ or #1 if Williams was out..
(ie.. Williams guarded corey davis, tre scott defended armoni brooks)

brooks handled the paint, but lets not act like the aac was running rampant with high scoring bigs

houston gave cincy their worst home loss in 5 years (scoring 85 despite pulling our horses early)...and a huge part of that was williams got in foul trouble and on the bench..while there are dominant defensive games they had where brooks played 10mins
cincy will have defensive questions but it will be more system than player

as far as offense, their top 3 scorers from last year return..they added a 17pt grad transfer and a 10pt grad transfer

The center position is the anchor of any defense. It's almost impossible to have a good defensive team and the center position not be the primary cause of it, it's by far the most impactful position on any defense.

The fact is they gave up the fewest points with Brooks on the court of any of their starters. He was pretty clearly the primary reason. Almost 3 fewer points per 100 possessions as the next closet.

Points given up per 100 possessions

94.6 Brooks
97.0 Scott
97.4 Williams

(06-09-2019 01:25 PM)StillJonesing Wrote:  

(06-09-2019 01:04 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(06-09-2019 12:24 PM)oasispirate Wrote:  

(06-08-2019 05:15 PM)rosewater Wrote:  

(06-08-2019 01:12 PM)StillJonesing Wrote:  So who is starting at center?

Mamadou diarra

Huge downgrade imo, when I watched Cincinnati this year they were a much better team with Brooks in the game. Guy was a huge loss imo. How does Cincy transition to a scoring team with this roster? Other than Cumberland and Jennifer it seemed you had a lot of guys that couldn't throw it in the ocean but could defend. Brooks was the foundation of that elite defense.

brooks was not the foundation of their defense ..it was Keith Williams and i dont think it was close..Williams defended the top scoring guard of the opposing teams every night...second it would be tre scott who despite being a 4 would defend the #2 scoring guard/ or #1 if Williams was out..
(ie.. Williams guarded corey davis, tre scott defended armoni brooks)

brooks handled the paint, but lets not act like the aac was running rampant with high scoring bigs

houston gave cincy their worst home loss in 5 years (scoring 85 despite pulling our horses early)...and a huge part of that was williams got in foul trouble and on the bench..while there are dominant defensive games they had where brooks played 10mins
cincy will have defensive questions but it will be more system than player

as far as offense, their top 3 scorers from last year return..they added a 17pt grad transfer and a 10pt grad transfer

The center position is the anchor of any defense. It's almost impossible to have a good defensive team and the center position not be the primary cause of it, it's by far the most impactful position on any defense.

The fact is they gave up the fewest points with Brooks on the court of any of their starters. He was pretty clearly the primary reason. Almost 3 fewer points per 100 possessions as the next closet.

Points given up per 100 possessions

94.6 Brooks
97.0 Scott
97.4 Williams

Agree that Brooks is a huge loss. Brooks put the ass into our defense. he was the rim protector and out muscled the other post players in the league. However, we are transitioning away from the Mick Cronin half court slow paced offense/defense. We will get more offense out of Diarra than Brooks. Diarra is a much better perimeter player than Brooks. In effect, it is comparing apples to oranges. It is not going to be the same Cincinnati type team.

(06-09-2019 01:25 PM)StillJonesing Wrote:  

(06-09-2019 01:04 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(06-09-2019 12:24 PM)oasispirate Wrote:  

(06-08-2019 05:15 PM)rosewater Wrote:  

(06-08-2019 01:12 PM)StillJonesing Wrote:  So who is starting at center?

Mamadou diarra

Huge downgrade imo, when I watched Cincinnati this year they were a much better team with Brooks in the game. Guy was a huge loss imo. How does Cincy transition to a scoring team with this roster? Other than Cumberland and Jennifer it seemed you had a lot of guys that couldn't throw it in the ocean but could defend. Brooks was the foundation of that elite defense.

brooks was not the foundation of their defense ..it was Keith Williams and i dont think it was close..Williams defended the top scoring guard of the opposing teams every night...second it would be tre scott who despite being a 4 would defend the #2 scoring guard/ or #1 if Williams was out..
(ie.. Williams guarded corey davis, tre scott defended armoni brooks)

brooks handled the paint, but lets not act like the aac was running rampant with high scoring bigs

houston gave cincy their worst home loss in 5 years (scoring 85 despite pulling our horses early)...and a huge part of that was williams got in foul trouble and on the bench..while there are dominant defensive games they had where brooks played 10mins
cincy will have defensive questions but it will be more system than player

as far as offense, their top 3 scorers from last year return..they added a 17pt grad transfer and a 10pt grad transfer

The center position is the anchor of any defense. It's almost impossible to have a good defensive team and the center position not be the primary cause of it, it's by far the most impactful position on any defense.

The fact is they gave up the fewest points with Brooks on the court of any of their starters. He was pretty clearly the primary reason. Almost 3 fewer points per 100 possessions as the next closet.

Points given up per 100 possessions

94.6 Brooks
97.0 Scott
97.4 Williams

Not just basing my opinion off one game, but it was night and day how much better cincy was against Iowa with Brooks on the floor.

(06-09-2019 01:25 PM)StillJonesing Wrote:  The center position is the anchor of any defense. It's almost impossible to have a good defensive team and the center position not be the primary cause of it, it's by far the most impactful position on any defense.

The fact is they gave up the fewest points with Brooks on the court of any of their starters. He was pretty clearly the primary reason. Almost 3 fewer points per 100 possessions as the next closet.

Points given up per 100 possessions

94.6 Brooks
97.0 Scott
97.4 Williams

i disagree..houston had the best defense in the league..and it had little to do with the center position...houston has had elite top 15 for 2 year straight with completely interechangeable players at out 5....hell if a game was close last year we removed all bigs and went with a 5 guard line up..

the core of Houston defense has been perimeter defense...almost every aac team relied on guard scoring

UC had elite defensive performances with brooks basically not playing (58 to ucf, 60 for uconn, 61 for tulane)...you cant look at the film and not tell me Williams wasnt the center piece as he was put on the leading scorer of every opposing team they played and shut most of them down..i dont think Cincy would have had very different defensive stats if brooks wasnt on the roster last year....i think cincy is completely different if Williams isnt on the roster

(06-09-2019 01:42 PM)oasispirate Wrote:  Not just basing my opinion off one game, but it was night and day how much better cincy was against Iowa with Brooks on the floor.

you cant base it on individual games...i agree on the iowa game.. but that wasnt him most nights

but if you just watched the byu/houston game, it was night and day when cedric alley was on the floor...i wouldnt put alley as a key part of anything

(06-09-2019 01:56 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(06-09-2019 01:42 PM)oasispirate Wrote:  Not just basing my opinion off one game, but it was night and day how much better cincy was against Iowa with Brooks on the floor.

you cant base it on individual games...i agree on the iowa game.. but that wasnt him most nights

but if you just watched the byu/houston game, it was night and day when cedric alley was on the floor...i wouldnt put alley as a key part of anything

I just said I wasn't basing it off one game. Cincy looked different without him. Yes it's true the AAC didn't have many guys in the league that could punish you for being small. I think that changes this year.

(06-09-2019 01:51 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(06-09-2019 01:25 PM)StillJonesing Wrote:  The center position is the anchor of any defense. It's almost impossible to have a good defensive team and the center position not be the primary cause of it, it's by far the most impactful position on any defense.

The fact is they gave up the fewest points with Brooks on the court of any of their starters. He was pretty clearly the primary reason. Almost 3 fewer points per 100 possessions as the next closet.

Points given up per 100 possessions

94.6 Brooks
97.0 Scott
97.4 Williams

i disagree..houston had the best defense in the league..and it had little to do with the center position...houston has had elite top 15 for 2 year straight with completely interechangeable players at out 5....hell if a game was close last year we removed all bigs and went with a 5 guard line up..

the core of Houston defense has been perimeter defense...almost every aac team relied on guard scoring

UC had elite defensive performances with brooks basically not playing (58 to ucf, 60 for uconn, 61 for tulane)...you cant look at the film and not tell me Williams wasnt the center piece as he was put on the leading scorer of every opposing team they played and shut most of them down..i dont think Cincy would have had very different defensive stats if brooks wasnt on the roster last year....i think cincy is completely different if Williams isnt on the roster

Your bigs still clearly anchored your defense. Each of your 6-8+ bigs platoon you gave up SIGNIFICANTLY less points with them on the court than any other starter and were the primary reason you had a good defense.

87.3 Brady / 87.5 Harris / 88.6 Greasham

92.2 Brooks
93.3 White
94.4 Robinson
94.8 Alley
96.3 Davis

If you went without a center you were going to try to outscore them because you clearly gave up more points and weren't as good on defense. Clearly.

Also being a big man/center doesn't automatically make you the best defender on your team, although it is easier to impact defense from the center position.

If you want an example, just look at our team we were freaking terrible with Spas on the court and gave up more points with him out there than everyone else on the team but Williams. That just tells you how horrific he was.

(06-09-2019 02:10 PM)StillJonesing Wrote:  Your bigs still clearly anchored your defense. Each of your 6-8+ bigs platoon you gave up SIGNIFICANTLY less points with them on the court than any other starter and were the primary reason you had a good defense.

87.3 Brady / 87.5 Harris / 88.6 Greasham

92.2 Brooks
93.3 White
94.4 Robinson
94.8 Alley
96.3 Davis

If you went without a center you were going to try to outscore them because you clearly gave up more points. Clearly.

a lot of these stats lack context...
a different stat someone was using last year was allowed points..someone was trying to argue rob gray was a better defender than galen because galen gave up more points than rob...

the stat lacked the context that galen defended the top offensive player every game and rob was put on the worst...

i havent really gotten into the stat you are using, but i already stated some potential context earlier..the better the team, the more they pushed houston, the more likely we were to remove all the bigs and go to a 4/5 guard line up ...or that having a bigger player on the court allow other players more natural roles (not that the 5 is the elite defender, but having a 5 allowed the other players to defend shorter players etc..)

i dont want to get into the merits of a stats...

all i can go by is the film...teams werent scared to take up shots on brooks...teams were scared to take up shots on williams...

Coach P.....do watch every AAC game? Serious question, I’m curious.


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(06-09-2019 03:50 PM)tnzazz Wrote:  Coach P.....do watch every AAC game? Serious question, I’m curious.


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every is a strong word...i watch most games...especially top matchups or if its close in the end ... i have a multi screen setup thing that lets me watch multiple games at once

(06-09-2019 06:56 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(06-09-2019 02:42 AM)tnzazz Wrote:  

(06-08-2019 03:25 PM)TigerBill Wrote:  

(06-06-2019 08:34 PM)tnzazz Wrote:  

(06-03-2019 09:04 AM)TigerBill Wrote:  Thank you. The books are available everywhere, although you might have to special order them in places. I turned in the new book yesterday by the way, so maybe a month before it's out. Have you seen the cover yet? Also, the non fiction WW2 book is going to the printer this week and should be available this month too.

As for Nick, I always pictured him more as a strong safety.

Love military history. I own all the Ken Burns documentaries.

Being D-Day, might need to watch Saving Private Ryan. My grandfather served under Patton.


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Patton was about the only top flight army commander we had, but he was hamstrung by having lesser men command him. I don't know if you like Eastern Front WW2, Germans v. Russians, but that's what the new book is about, the battle for Austria in 1945.

That’s an interesting subject. Less is known by us, but the Eastern Front was brutal from what I know.


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As long as we are off topic.....I know it's not a popular belief in the west but Russia virtually won the victory over Germany. Russian has got to be the definition of grinding. They just kept grinding in the face of impossible odds & hardship & virtually chewed up millions of German soldiers & most of their resources in Hilter's desire to rule all of Russia as well as Europe. Just look at the stats from the battle of Stalingrad (the region) - Germany lost near a million men (killed, wounded or captured), close to 1000 aircraft, over 500 tanks & over 1000 artillery pieces while attempting to take Stalingrad. Had Hilter instead focused on the west, Germany might well include all of western Europe today.

Balderdash. The USSR fought a one-front war in only one theater, and with the benefit of US largesse. Only after we dropped the bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki did the USSR declare war on Japan and occupy Sakhalin and some Japanese islands. It also engaged and defeated some demoralized and poorly equipped Japanese troops in Manchuria. I seriously doubt that Stalin could have beaten Germany, even a Germany hobbled by Hitler's greed and incompetence, if we hadn't bombed the Third Reich's industrial might into oblivion, supplied Russia via lend-lease, and diverted Germany's attention by opening new fronts in Italy and France. The US fought Germany with only one good hand. The other hand was busy defeating Japan.

Even now, Russia's economy is only about the same size as that of Texas. Other than war machinery, political mischief, and oil and gas (using technology largely supplied by western energy companies), what does Russia export? Matryoshka nesting wooden dolls, furs, caviar, and not much else. Think of it as a third-world country with nuclear missiles.

(06-09-2019 11:26 AM)HuskyU Wrote:  Since we've gone way OT... I didn't realize so many people get their ass holes bleached. Really stunning numbers, for both men and women.

It's off-season, we're always OT, lol. You really don't want to know what the TN fans in Knoxville do with their ******** down here in the South.

Have you ever heard of "butt-chugging?" In Knoxville on the UT campus they literally drink through their ********.

https://www.knoxnews.com/story/news/crim...588470002/

Avoid the East side of the state if you travel through Tennessee, unless you want to meet inbreds. The Smoky Mountains are a sight to see and awesome, just avoid the local TN fans. Someone's grandmother flipped me the birdy at an intersection the last time I was there for wearing a Memphis shirt.