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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article...ioner.html

Can we get Mayor Buttplug's take on this?

I wonder if any member of Congress has the guts to change the name of MLK Day to minorities Day or eliminate the Holiday altogether.


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I first learned Dr King was a serial adulterer when I saw the movie Selma.

If the rest of this is true, 'they' will try to keep it buried forever.

(05-26-2019 02:58 PM)shere khan Wrote:  asking for a friend

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article...ioner.html

We know J. Edgar was after him. Its clear the FBI has never been squeaky clean.

But the extra-marital affairs are hardly a secret. Maybe the number of them.

Now the other charge is pretty serious. But I wouldn't put it past J. Edgar to exaggerate a little.

(05-26-2019 04:23 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(05-26-2019 02:58 PM)shere khan Wrote:  asking for a friend
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article...ioner.html

We know J. Edgar was after him. Its clear the FBI has never been squeaky clean.
But the extra-marital affairs are hardly a secret. Maybe the number of them.
Now the other charge is pretty serious. But I wouldn't put it past J. Edgar to exaggerate a little.

The FBI has never really been the objective, play-it-down-the-middle, call-them-like-they-see-them organization that its public perception would suggest. There's pretty much always been a thumb on the scale. I hope we will be finding out if any of those thumbs belong to the likes of Strzok, Page, "Andy," or the rest.

(05-26-2019 04:01 PM)Chappy Wrote:  I first learned Dr King was a serial adulterer when I saw the movie Selma.

This subject has occasionally surfaced in the media since at least the 1970s, and probably earlier than that.

In 1989, one of King’s closest friends and confidants, Rev. Ralph David Abernathy, published his memoirs titled “And the Walls Came Tumbling Down”. The book included a passage about Martin L. King’s final hours in Memphis TN, just before being murdered. Those who are interested can look it up for themselves but I’ll just say here that Abernathy’s book generated a huge controversy that was still raging when he died a few months later (natural causes) at age 64.

So revelations like this are honestly not “new”.

Quote:If the rest of this is true, 'they' will try to keep it buried forever.

That is probably true. But I’ll point out that for about 20-25 years after their deaths, John F. Kennedy and Robert F. Kennedy were spoken of in the same tones of hushed-reverence and deification that Martin King is spoken about, today. Over time, these things do change when the evidence keeps piling up.

The Warren Commission had a dossier with a lot more detail that made this look quite tame.


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I will repeat what I've said time after time when it comes to the rich and powerful..or either. Once you have money or prower or both....

Sex, drugs, or both, are the only thing left that can give you that high you need that scratches that kinky side most people have. I'm not surprised if all of this was true. I'm not surprised when it comes out about anyone that has reached a high enough level.

But if every bit came out on tape there is no way MLK would be put in the same light as most everyone else. The same thing goes with Michael Jackson. First off most people would say the tapes were doctored...even if they were 100% correct. There's a huge difference between a white person getting caught up in something like this and a black hero/leader

(05-26-2019 02:58 PM)shere khan Wrote:  asking for a friend

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article...ioner.html

I have no reason to doubt that it is true. That said it was the era of "Mad Men" with booze on a cart in every upper middle class home. And JFK was doing the same or worse in the White House, as was RFK, LBJ, and pretty much everybody in Washington except Tricky Dick.

Sad as it seems by today's standards that was male life among the power elite in the 60's. So should we hold MLK to any different standard than the rest?

I was always more concerned that Mao contributed oodles of money to the SCLC through various sources and the Communists at the time saw African Americans as a tool for social revolution along class and economic lines.

Psst: They still do and Obama played those race cards every time he could and then some.

While we fail as mortals do every single day, we somehow believe people like MLK to be infallible. Guess what, he wasn’t. Neither is any man or woman standing on this planet. What he did, what he accomplished, is a great thing regardless of the human failings. That’s why the good works of men should be praised but the man never be worshipped. His statue should never be removed nor should it be worshipped but rather it should be a reminder of the good he tried to do to men’s hearts.

(05-26-2019 11:31 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(05-26-2019 02:58 PM)shere khan Wrote:  asking for a friend

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article...ioner.html

I have no reason to doubt that it is true. That said it was the era of "Mad Men" with booze on a cart in every upper middle class home. And JFK was doing the same or worse in the White House, as was RFK, LBJ, and pretty much everybody in Washington except Tricky Dick.

Sad as it seems by today's standards that was male life among the power elite in the 60's. So should we hold MLK to any different standard than the rest?

I was always more concerned that Mao contributed oodles of money to the SCLC through various sources and the Communists at the time saw African Americans as a tool for social revolution along class and economic lines.

Psst: They still do and Obama played those race cards every time he could and then some.

I agree with you 100% that you cant judge a person by the same standards in different frames of time. But rape was still a crime, in the 60s and I'm fairly sure being in the same room and egging a person on to rape...was still a crime in the 60s.

But it seems like all men/people should get that same benefit if the doubt of how things were in their time. I dont believe we are seeing that today. So while I do agree with you that judging someone by todays standards when it happened 30, 40, 50 or more years ago shouldn't be done....

the race of the person should not make a difference in how we judge

I see a double standard being used by the "PC Mob"

(05-27-2019 12:15 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(05-26-2019 11:31 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(05-26-2019 02:58 PM)shere khan Wrote:  asking for a friend

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article...ioner.html

I have no reason to doubt that it is true. That said it was the era of "Mad Men" with booze on a cart in every upper middle class home. And JFK was doing the same or worse in the White House, as was RFK, LBJ, and pretty much everybody in Washington except Tricky Dick.

Sad as it seems by today's standards that was male life among the power elite in the 60's. So should we hold MLK to any different standard than the rest?

I was always more concerned that Mao contributed oodles of money to the SCLC through various sources and the Communists at the time saw African Americans as a tool for social revolution along class and economic lines.

Psst: They still do and Obama played those race cards every time he could and then some.

I agree with you 100% that you cant judge a person by the same standards in different frames of time. But rape was still a crime, in the 60s and I'm fairly sure being in the same room and egging a person on to rape...was still a crime in the 60s.

But it seems like all men/people should get that same benefit if the doubt of how things were in their time. I dont believe we are seeing that today. So while I do agree with you that judging someone by todays standards when it happened 30, 40, 50 or more years ago shouldn't be done....

the race of the person should not make a difference in how we judge

I see a double standard being used by the "PC Mob"

Rape is rape, but drugging a girl or getting her drunk first was the M.O. of some of the others mentioned above so I wasn't bypassing MLK's complicity in that event merely pointing out that it wasn't an isolated case either.

Agree with you in that Race shouldn't play a role but the PC mob only cares about what furthers their agenda so race, sex, injustice or not they turn a blind eye to those who don't advance their agenda. They are merely scavengers feeding off of the suffering and death of others. IMO they are just as despicable as the perpetrators.

(05-27-2019 12:40 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(05-27-2019 12:15 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(05-26-2019 11:31 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(05-26-2019 02:58 PM)shere khan Wrote:  asking for a friend

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article...ioner.html

I have no reason to doubt that it is true. That said it was the era of "Mad Men" with booze on a cart in every upper middle class home. And JFK was doing the same or worse in the White House, as was RFK, LBJ, and pretty much everybody in Washington except Tricky Dick.

Sad as it seems by today's standards that was male life among the power elite in the 60's. So should we hold MLK to any different standard than the rest?

I was always more concerned that Mao contributed oodles of money to the SCLC through various sources and the Communists at the time saw African Americans as a tool for social revolution along class and economic lines.

Psst: They still do and Obama played those race cards every time he could and then some.

I agree with you 100% that you cant judge a person by the same standards in different frames of time. But rape was still a crime, in the 60s and I'm fairly sure being in the same room and egging a person on to rape...was still a crime in the 60s.

But it seems like all men/people should get that same benefit if the doubt of how things were in their time. I dont believe we are seeing that today. So while I do agree with you that judging someone by todays standards when it happened 30, 40, 50 or more years ago shouldn't be done....

the race of the person should not make a difference in how we judge

I see a double standard being used by the "PC Mob"

Rape is rape, but drugging a girl or getting her drunk first was the M.O. of some of the others mentioned above so I wasn't bypassing MLK's complicity in that event merely pointing out that it wasn't an isolated case either.

Agree with you in that Race shouldn't play a role but the PC mob only cares about what furthers their agenda so race, sex, injustice or not they turn a blind eye to those who don't advance their agenda. They are merely scavengers feeding off of the suffering and death of others. IMO they are just as despicable as the perpetrators.

The FBI is bad (except when it comes to Trump) and the flaws of some historical figures can be overlooked. Scavengers that manipulate the weak minded.

The new Dark Age has begun. I give this country 2 more generations, tops

I bet Obama had something to do with this.

(05-27-2019 01:33 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(05-27-2019 12:40 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(05-27-2019 12:15 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(05-26-2019 11:31 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(05-26-2019 02:58 PM)shere khan Wrote:  asking for a friend

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article...ioner.html

I have no reason to doubt that it is true. That said it was the era of "Mad Men" with booze on a cart in every upper middle class home. And JFK was doing the same or worse in the White House, as was RFK, LBJ, and pretty much everybody in Washington except Tricky Dick.

Sad as it seems by today's standards that was male life among the power elite in the 60's. So should we hold MLK to any different standard than the rest?

I was always more concerned that Mao contributed oodles of money to the SCLC through various sources and the Communists at the time saw African Americans as a tool for social revolution along class and economic lines.

Psst: They still do and Obama played those race cards every time he could and then some.

I agree with you 100% that you cant judge a person by the same standards in different frames of time. But rape was still a crime, in the 60s and I'm fairly sure being in the same room and egging a person on to rape...was still a crime in the 60s.

But it seems like all men/people should get that same benefit if the doubt of how things were in their time. I dont believe we are seeing that today. So while I do agree with you that judging someone by todays standards when it happened 30, 40, 50 or more years ago shouldn't be done....

the race of the person should not make a difference in how we judge

I see a double standard being used by the "PC Mob"

Rape is rape, but drugging a girl or getting her drunk first was the M.O. of some of the others mentioned above so I wasn't bypassing MLK's complicity in that event merely pointing out that it wasn't an isolated case either.

Agree with you in that Race shouldn't play a role but the PC mob only cares about what furthers their agenda so race, sex, injustice or not they turn a blind eye to those who don't advance their agenda. They are merely scavengers feeding off of the suffering and death of others. IMO they are just as despicable as the perpetrators.

The FBI is bad (except when it comes to Trump) and the flaws of some historical figures can be overlooked. Scavengers that manipulate the weak minded.

The new Dark Age has begun. I give this country 2 more generations, tops

Have you seen or talked to anyone currently coming of age in this country recently?? 2 generations may be generous.

(05-27-2019 06:03 AM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  I bet Obama had something to do with this.

Nah, that would be fomenting racial division. He'd never engage in tactics like that.

I have a little trouble convicting this guy if rape because some author I've never heard of said it happened.

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(05-27-2019 01:33 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(05-27-2019 12:40 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(05-27-2019 12:15 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(05-26-2019 11:31 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(05-26-2019 02:58 PM)shere khan Wrote:  asking for a friend

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article...ioner.html

I have no reason to doubt that it is true. That said it was the era of "Mad Men" with booze on a cart in every upper middle class home. And JFK was doing the same or worse in the White House, as was RFK, LBJ, and pretty much everybody in Washington except Tricky Dick.

Sad as it seems by today's standards that was male life among the power elite in the 60's. So should we hold MLK to any different standard than the rest?

I was always more concerned that Mao contributed oodles of money to the SCLC through various sources and the Communists at the time saw African Americans as a tool for social revolution along class and economic lines.

Psst: They still do and Obama played those race cards every time he could and then some.

I agree with you 100% that you cant judge a person by the same standards in different frames of time. But rape was still a crime, in the 60s and I'm fairly sure being in the same room and egging a person on to rape...was still a crime in the 60s.

But it seems like all men/people should get that same benefit if the doubt of how things were in their time. I dont believe we are seeing that today. So while I do agree with you that judging someone by todays standards when it happened 30, 40, 50 or more years ago shouldn't be done....

the race of the person should not make a difference in how we judge

I see a double standard being used by the "PC Mob"

Rape is rape, but drugging a girl or getting her drunk first was the M.O. of some of the others mentioned above so I wasn't bypassing MLK's complicity in that event merely pointing out that it wasn't an isolated case either.

Agree with you in that Race shouldn't play a role but the PC mob only cares about what furthers their agenda so race, sex, injustice or not they turn a blind eye to those who don't advance their agenda. They are merely scavengers feeding off of the suffering and death of others. IMO they are just as despicable as the perpetrators.

The FBI is bad (except when it comes to Trump) and the flaws of some historical figures can be overlooked. Scavengers that manipulate the weak minded.

The new Dark Age has begun. I give this country 2 more generations, tops

Shere Kahn the clock started ticking on the Dark Ages when PC took over the high school class room in the early 80's. The seeds of that were the narcissistic Boomers who dodged the draft and did what they "felt" was right and good. They started the counter narrative and were the first group of young Americans to be used by communist propagandists and their media fellow travelers.

I proclaimed to my children that they were born into a new dark age where truth and reality were being subverted to the whims and pains of the losers of history. It is most definitely a death spiral, and one that can only be circumvented by the complete overhaul of pubic education and by a remnant of those who know better living longer than they naturally should in order to see the damage to reason and logic repaired. In short we need a miracle besides what some think is the technological advantages we have, but which are used to only spread the fiction of the cults of victimization.

It is why I willfully continue to drive home the need for educational reform. Nothing can be fixed until the purveyor of lies and distortions of irreality are stopped. This board largely ignores this for the same reasons the public does. They feel the task too great to undertake and their power too limited, and/or they are making a living off of part of that system and consider the task too costly to their families. The other reason is that they are too young to remember the truth and success of education prior to the PC political agendas.

https://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/no-heroe...velations/

"...But now, to compound this bad turn in our country, we have to process new information about Dr. King himself that is nothing short of nauseating, if true. And, to be honest, it is likely to be. The source is David Garrow, author of the Pulitzer-winning encomium Bearing the Cross: Martin Luther King, Jr., and the Southern Christian Leadership Conference and a senior advisor to Eyes on the Prize, PBS' award-winning series on the Civil Rights Movement — in other words, a liberal's liberal and no enemy of King's. In fact, he is, if anything, a former idolator....

At the beginning of this piece, I called these revelations disturbing. They were more than that for me. I spent the summer of 1966 as a civil rights worker in Sumter, South Carolina, living in a rooming house owned by MLK's cousin, the local mortician. I never met King personally, although I met several family members and saw him speak twice. He was certainly a hero to me then, probably more than anyone in our history, sad as that is to think now. He still is for what he believed then and did then, but not for what he was. Maybe I should leave it there. It's the old Shakespearean dichotomy between the doer and the deed...."