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New AD - Difficulties of the Job
Our new AD will face a difficult task here at Memphis; however, it's most certainly one of the best non-P5 jobs out there.

He has to walk the line between providing the appropriate amount of support to both the football and basketball program. We Tiger fans have witnessed what happens when you support one at the sake of the other (RC and the football collapse at the worse possible timing in regards to realignment; Bowen and the fiasco of making the wrong hire in Tubby and not "giving up the fight" when it was time to replace him).

The next AD has to find that right balance - football "steers the ship" in regards to conference realignment and has the potential to remain a relevant top-25 program for years to come; basketball is set up for national exposure/top-10 program with a long runway ahead of it again (all this and Penny's 2nd season is still months away from tipping off!).

The good thing is, we're in line short term to have a top 25 football program and a top 10 basketball program. To quote RC "It's a great time to be a Tiger".

This next hire is crucial to both the sustainability of our current state of the program, along with achieving that next step in conference realignment.

Go Tigers!
05-17-2019 11:10 AM
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RE: New AD - Difficulties of the Job
It's not that hard a job. Wren Baker would kill it here.
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(05-17-2019 11:16 AM)Tigx Wrote:  It's not that hard a job. Wren Baker would kill it here.

If this message board is any indication, it is absolutely not an easy job.

Bowen did a lot of good here and got crucified when he left.
05-17-2019 11:20 AM
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RE: New AD - Difficulties of the Job
New AD should absolutely kiss all of your rings, tho.

That's what too many of you care about.
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RE: New AD - Difficulties of the Job
(05-17-2019 11:20 AM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  
(05-17-2019 11:16 AM)Tigx Wrote:  It's not that hard a job. Wren Baker would kill it here.

If this message board is any indication, it is absolutely not an easy job.

Bowen did a lot of good here and got crucified when he left.

Why would any AD care about a message board with anonymous posters?
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Where did I imply that they should?

Are you contending that this message board is devoid of Memphis alumni, supporters, and boosters?
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(05-17-2019 11:23 AM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  Where did I imply that they should?

Are you contending that this message board is devoid of Memphis alumni, supporters, and boosters?

Where? Perhaps when you said about 3 minutes ago "If this message board is any indication, it is absolutely not an easy job."

Not just this AD job, but not many of the ADs jobs are very hard, imo. SEC ADs have money pouring in. ADs last a lot longer than the football or basketball coaches they hire and fire. How many times do we see ADs fired after the coach they hired 3 years ago is fired?

At Memphis, for football, you basically have to schedule 4 games a year. And Bowen even screwed that up. And make sure the Liberty Bowl properly scans tickets and has water for hot games. Oops, he screwed that up too. And be an active and enthusiastic spokesman for the program - yeah, we know how Tom performed there.
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You fail at logic. I hope you didn't actually attend UofM.

We are a message board, and no, the AD should not waste time reading us.

But we still make up the fanbase.

IF WE ARE ANY INDICATION, then yes my point stands, idiot.
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(05-17-2019 11:31 AM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  You fail at logic.

We are a message board, and no, the AD should not waste time reading us.

But we still make up the fanbase.

IF WE ARE ANY INDICATION, then yes my point stands, idiot.

Angry Alonso. You never disappoint, lol.
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(05-17-2019 11:31 AM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  You fail at logic. I hope you didn't actually attend UofM.

We are a message board, and no, the AD should not waste time reading us.

But we still make up the fanbase.

IF WE ARE ANY INDICATION, then yes my point stands, idiot.
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What does it matter if we are an online group or if we actually congregate at F-199 or whatever the famed Tiger Lane lot number is.
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(05-17-2019 11:21 AM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  New AD should absolutely kiss all of your rings, tho.

That's what too many of you care about.

That's literally half the job.
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RE: New AD - Difficulties of the Job
Being the Memphis AD is much easier than it once was.

Does anyone remember when the annual wish for football was “ can the Tigers make it to a bowl game?” Now we have played for a conference championship two consecutive years , and we annually flirt with a top 25 ranking.

How about the Tic Price and Johnny Jones years in basketball, and even the first few years of the Cal era? Now Penny has just wrapped up the number 1 recruiting class in the country.

This is not your grandfather’s University of Memphis sports program. We are one of the top two or three programs outside the P5, and there are quite a few P5 schools that would like to be sitting where we are. I think AD candidates will be running over each other to get this job.
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RE: New AD - Difficulties of the Job
(05-17-2019 11:20 AM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  
(05-17-2019 11:16 AM)Tigx Wrote:  It's not that hard a job. Wren Baker would kill it here.

If this message board is any indication, it is absolutely not an easy job.

Bowen did a lot of good here and got crucified when he left.

Can you give examples of "a lot of good" that was HIS doing and would not have happened if anyone other than he were AD?
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RE: New AD - Difficulties of the Job
(05-17-2019 11:20 AM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  
(05-17-2019 11:16 AM)Tigx Wrote:  It's not that hard a job. Wren Baker would kill it here.

If this message board is any indication, it is absolutely not an easy job.

Bowen did a lot of good here and got crucified when he left.

it would've helped maybe...if he hadn't been applying for other jobs for years not...trying to get away from our job.
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(05-17-2019 12:09 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  
(05-17-2019 11:20 AM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  
(05-17-2019 11:16 AM)Tigx Wrote:  It's not that hard a job. Wren Baker would kill it here.

If this message board is any indication, it is absolutely not an easy job.

Bowen did a lot of good here and got crucified when he left.

Can you give examples of "a lot of good" that was HIS doing and would not have happened if anyone other than he were AD?



Sure, as soon as you can provide evidence that he was not responsible for anything the Memphis athletic department has accomplished since 2012.
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(05-17-2019 12:11 PM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  
(05-17-2019 12:09 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  
(05-17-2019 11:20 AM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  
(05-17-2019 11:16 AM)Tigx Wrote:  It's not that hard a job. Wren Baker would kill it here.

If this message board is any indication, it is absolutely not an easy job.

Bowen did a lot of good here and got crucified when he left.

Can you give examples of "a lot of good" that was HIS doing and would not have happened if anyone other than he were AD?



Sure, as soon as you can provide evidence that he was not responsible for anything the Memphis athletic department has accomplished since 2012.

I'd prefer a new AD with a vision to overcome the small ingrown thinking that had long been associated with UM athletics. Most of what I hear is how we can't do certain things, can't achieve, can't raise money, can't schedule. Thankfully we've made strides in the last several years in FB & major strides in MBB, in terms of team performance & recruiting, but we need an AD that can foster that, leverage it to get local business more solidly supporting the university, raise funds among those businesses and alumni, build relationships with major universities for scheduling, and build community in Memphis & the midsouth. It's hard work, not an easy job, if done right, but it can be done with the right guy.
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(05-17-2019 12:09 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  
(05-17-2019 11:20 AM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  
(05-17-2019 11:16 AM)Tigx Wrote:  It's not that hard a job. Wren Baker would kill it here.

If this message board is any indication, it is absolutely not an easy job.

Bowen did a lot of good here and got crucified when he left.

Can you give examples of "a lot of good" that was HIS doing and would not have happened if anyone other than he were AD?

Nothing major. Only RC not going to jail and dragging the entire university with him.
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(05-17-2019 03:24 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(05-17-2019 12:11 PM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  
(05-17-2019 12:09 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  
(05-17-2019 11:20 AM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  
(05-17-2019 11:16 AM)Tigx Wrote:  It's not that hard a job. Wren Baker would kill it here.

If this message board is any indication, it is absolutely not an easy job.

Bowen did a lot of good here and got crucified when he left.

Can you give examples of "a lot of good" that was HIS doing and would not have happened if anyone other than he were AD?



Sure, as soon as you can provide evidence that he was not responsible for anything the Memphis athletic department has accomplished since 2012.

I'd prefer a new AD with a vision to overcome the small ingrown thinking that had long been associated with UM athletics. Most of what I hear is how we can't do certain things, can't achieve, can't raise money, can't schedule. Thankfully we've made strides in the last several years in FB & major strides in MBB, in terms of team performance & recruiting, but we need an AD that can foster that, leverage it to get local business more solidly supporting the university, raise funds among those businesses and alumni, build relationships with major universities for scheduling, and build community in Memphis & the midsouth. It's hard work, not an easy job, if done right, but it can be done with the right guy.

I agree with this. Bowen was absolutely the BEST hire we could have made when we hired him, and he got our house in order when it was a total mess.
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(05-17-2019 11:31 AM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  You fail at logic. I hope you didn't actually attend UofM.

We are a message board, and no, the AD should not waste time reading us.

But we still make up the fanbase.

IF WE ARE ANY INDICATION, then yes my point stands, idiot.

The difficulty of the AD job depends on how many Alonso's he/she have to deal with on a regular basis.
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