(05-01-2019 02:23 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  My first ancestor in the new world was Nicolas Martiau, who came to Jamestown in 1620. He is also the first ancestor of George Washington to come to the new world. There is some argument that he was of African descent, probably North African Arab rather than Central African.

Per Wikipedia, take that for what it is worth, other descendants of Nicolas Martiau include Queen Elizabeth II, Dan Blocker, Tom Cruise, Lady Bird Johnson, Robert E. Lee, Meriwether Lewis, Elvis Presley, Elizabeth Taylor, and Tennessee Williams.

We've got royalty in here.

(05-01-2019 03:23 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  

(05-01-2019 02:23 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  My first ancestor in the new world was Nicolas Martiau, who came to Jamestown in 1620. He is also the first ancestor of George Washington to come to the new world. There is some argument that he was of African descent, probably North African Arab rather than Central African.

Per Wikipedia, take that for what it is worth, other descendants of Nicolas Martiau include Queen Elizabeth II, Dan Blocker, Tom Cruise, Lady Bird Johnson, Robert E. Lee, Meriwether Lewis, Elvis Presley, Elizabeth Taylor, and Tennessee Williams.

We've got royalty in here.

my ancestor at Jamestown was Temperance Flowerdew.



trueth

(05-01-2019 03:23 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  

(05-01-2019 02:23 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  My first ancestor in the new world was Nicolas Martiau, who came to Jamestown in 1620. He is also the first ancestor of George Washington to come to the new world. There is some argument that he was of African descent, probably North African Arab rather than Central African.
Per Wikipedia, take that for what it is worth, other descendants of Nicolas Martiau include Queen Elizabeth II, Dan Blocker, Tom Cruise, Lady Bird Johnson, Robert E. Lee, Meriwether Lewis, Elvis Presley, Elizabeth Taylor, and Tennessee Williams.

We've got royalty in here.

My point was more that I probably have some ancestry of color--although more likely brown Moorish than black Central/Southern African. And by definition, so do a lot of other people that would commonly be thought of as white.

(05-01-2019 08:05 AM)cb4029 Wrote:  White people... nevermind.

u still pretending to be black?

(05-01-2019 01:02 PM)DustMyBroom Wrote:  

(05-01-2019 01:00 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  

(05-01-2019 12:01 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(05-01-2019 11:36 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(05-01-2019 11:32 AM)umbluegray Wrote:  I understand that.

The only thing standing between today and their goal of global communistic government is the U.S. people and our Republican form of government.

Once we fall they've won.

And governments based on collectivism throughout history are replete with examples of brutal regimes which violently suppress and/or kill their citizens.

Yep. Im glad Im not a young person today. I really think their future is jeopardy...and by their own hands. It ideas being spread around by them are dangerous to America.

But here's what ticks me off...

Take Tennessee for example. It is a super-majority GOP.

Governor: GOP
Senate: GOP 26, Dem 5, Ind 1, Vacant 1 - 78.8%
House: GOP 73, Dem 26 - 73.7%

Republicans can pass ANYTHING they want with ZERO dem approval. If by chance, the Republican governor vetoes a bill, their are enough Republicans to override a veto.

In other words, Republicans in TN can do whatever they want. PERIOD.

So... why do the state-controlled public schools still include liberal indoctrination propaganda? Why don't they mandate conservative views?

My assumption is because Republicans, for the most part, are indeed RINOs. By NOT changing the state-run indoctrination camps they are complicit.

And those super-majority numbers are true for practically all Southern states.

Alabama
Governor: GOP
Senate: 27R-8D, 77.1%
House: 77R-28D, 73.3%

Mississippi
Governor: GOP
Senate: 33R-19D, 63.5%
House: 74R-48D, 60.7%

Arkansas
Governor: GOP
Senate: 26R-9D, 74.3%
House: 76R-24D, 76.0%

Louisiana, N Carolina, Virginia - Dem gov, GOP legislature

Georgia, Kentucky, Florida, S Carolina, Texas, Missouri - GOP across the board

The south, for the majority of it's existence has been a predominant one party rule. I think it's because politics are like a death sport there so everyone just conforms. A very conformist society from dress, food, haircuts, politics, religion, football, etc

Hey kids, look! Yet another clown who benefits from free association with Southern culture while knowing absolutely nothing about it!

you can only imagine how much fun I had with those on the west coast....

my fave was landing in PDX for the first time....the whiter never shone brighter....

later in the week while driving to Vancouver, WA to play golf through their farm land, muh soy boy saw 3 guys walking down the road close to his parent's residence.....two were black and one hispanic.....

his comment? "what do they think they're doing....don't they know they'll get shot?~!" = true story

da finga was so far up his hypocritical arse the rest of the day, he never had a chance on the course or any further opening from his bung-holier-than-thou....

(05-01-2019 04:21 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(05-01-2019 03:23 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  

(05-01-2019 02:23 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  My first ancestor in the new world was Nicolas Martiau, who came to Jamestown in 1620. He is also the first ancestor of George Washington to come to the new world. There is some argument that he was of African descent, probably North African Arab rather than Central African.
Per Wikipedia, take that for what it is worth, other descendants of Nicolas Martiau include Queen Elizabeth II, Dan Blocker, Tom Cruise, Lady Bird Johnson, Robert E. Lee, Meriwether Lewis, Elvis Presley, Elizabeth Taylor, and Tennessee Williams.

We've got royalty in here.

My point was more that I probably have some ancestry of color--although more likely brown Moorish than black Central/Southern African. And by definition, so do a lot of other people that would commonly be thought of as white.

For early colonists that N. African stuff would be much more rare. SSA African DNA would be much more common. However surely there was a ton of the Euro and N. African ships all over those coast lines. A lot of the ports that the Euros built still exist today. The Moors even sailed their ships to Europe and captured a lot of Euro slaves, about 1.5 Million by some estimates.

(05-01-2019 05:18 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(05-01-2019 04:21 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(05-01-2019 03:23 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  

(05-01-2019 02:23 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  My first ancestor in the new world was Nicolas Martiau, who came to Jamestown in 1620. He is also the first ancestor of George Washington to come to the new world. There is some argument that he was of African descent, probably North African Arab rather than Central African.
Per Wikipedia, take that for what it is worth, other descendants of Nicolas Martiau include Queen Elizabeth II, Dan Blocker, Tom Cruise, Lady Bird Johnson, Robert E. Lee, Meriwether Lewis, Elvis Presley, Elizabeth Taylor, and Tennessee Williams.

We've got royalty in here.

My point was more that I probably have some ancestry of color--although more likely brown Moorish than black Central/Southern African. And by definition, so do a lot of other people that would commonly be thought of as white.

For early colonists that N. African stuff would be much more rare. SSA African DNA would be much more common. However surely there was a ton of the Euro and N. African ships all over those coast lines. A lot of the ports that the Euros built still exist today. The Moors even sailed their ships to Europe and captured a lot of Euro slaves, about 1.5 Million by some estimates.

Rare or not, from what I've read of Nicolas Martiau, there is a lot of speculation that he was at least partly Moorish.

(05-01-2019 01:23 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  

(05-01-2019 09:04 AM)BadgerMJ Wrote:  

(05-01-2019 08:06 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  She is correct. Demographically, Hispanics, blacks and Asians will outnumber Caucasians within the next 25 years...Caucasians will have to accept it or this country will be torn to shreds.

Does that mean in 25 years we white folks can claim "minority" status and be eligible for all sorts of "programs"?

We'll be able to have....

Miss White America
WET - White Entertainment Television
NAAWP - National Association for the Advancement of White People
White Studies majors at universities.
White cultural requirements for graduates
White Lives Matter

Best part is no one can complain. What's good for the goose....

Focus your vitriol on the growing populations (Muslims, Hispanics, Indians and Asians) not the ones that were historically discriminated against.

They clearly have some issues.

(05-01-2019 04:31 PM)No Bull Wrote:  

(05-01-2019 08:05 AM)cb4029 Wrote:  White people... nevermind.

u still pretending to be black?

I have to. Everyone else in my family is. Although I wish I could be orange. Clearly it has its advantages.

(05-01-2019 05:36 PM)cb4029 Wrote:  

(05-01-2019 04:31 PM)No Bull Wrote:  

(05-01-2019 08:05 AM)cb4029 Wrote:  White people... nevermind.

u still pretending to be black?

I have to. Everyone else in my family is. Although I wish I could be orange. Clearly it has its advantages.

Dayam, sorry to hear that. Hear you go.

(05-01-2019 11:32 AM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(05-01-2019 11:12 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(05-01-2019 09:19 AM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(05-01-2019 08:06 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  She is correct. Demographically, Hispanics, blacks and Asians will outnumber Caucasians within the next 25 years...Caucasians will have to accept it or this country will be torn to shreds.

You know what else will tear this country to shreds?

Not assimilating and becoming an American.

They have no thought of doing that. They want to turn America into the same type of Shithole country that they came from.

I understand that.

The only thing standing between today and their goal of global communistic government is the U.S. people and our Republican form of government.

Once we fall they've won.

And governments based on collectivism throughout history are replete with examples of brutal regimes which violently suppress and/or kill their citizens.

We are witnessing history down in Venezuela right now which confirms that statement.

(05-01-2019 11:36 AM)cb4029 Wrote:  

(05-01-2019 11:34 AM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(05-01-2019 11:29 AM)cb4029 Wrote:  I predict the ****** in the head people without color will move to Alaska to avoid the rest of us.

self-referential

I'm only level 2 ****** in the head.

On a scale of from 1 to 2...

(05-01-2019 11:50 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(05-01-2019 08:04 AM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  

(05-01-2019 08:00 AM)GrayBeard Wrote:  

(05-01-2019 07:58 AM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  It won't be. This is why everybody is so irritated.

It isn't a country of white people now.

And your irritated comment is stupid.

How do you figure? It's pretty white now.

not everywhere...the zip I live in is pretty diverse. We have a good size Hispanic and Asian population to go along with the white and black folks

Half the people in that area hang out in front of the cigar store bumming change from the other half. I have to run them off every single day. Midtown is a clusterfork .

(05-01-2019 12:51 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  

(05-01-2019 11:50 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(05-01-2019 08:04 AM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  

(05-01-2019 08:00 AM)GrayBeard Wrote:  

(05-01-2019 07:58 AM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  It won't be. This is why everybody is so irritated.

It isn't a country of white people now.

And your irritated comment is stupid.

How do you figure? It's pretty white now.

not everywhere...the zip I live in is pretty diverse. We have a good size Hispanic and Asian population to go along with the white and black folks

That's Memphis. It wasn't really that white anyway, that's why the BBQ and chicken is so good. Be thankful for that, wish that I had some right now.

The best in town is to be found in the rankest dankest dives imaginable. And I'd hate to have to decide who make's it better, blacks or whites. I don't think that's even part of the equation though. And you are correct, Memphis has been majority black for most of my adult life. Given the racial makeup of the city it's surprising that we don't see much of the crap that goes on in other cities. I think that largely most people get along pretty well here. Or at least that's been my experience.

(05-02-2019 07:38 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(05-01-2019 11:50 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(05-01-2019 08:04 AM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  

(05-01-2019 08:00 AM)GrayBeard Wrote:  

(05-01-2019 07:58 AM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  It won't be. This is why everybody is so irritated.

It isn't a country of white people now.

And your irritated comment is stupid.

How do you figure? It's pretty white now.

not everywhere...the zip I live in is pretty diverse. We have a good size Hispanic and Asian population to go along with the white and black folks

Half the people in that area hang out in front of the cigar store bumming change from the other half. I have to run them off every single day. Midtown is a clusterfork .

I use to live in Midtown. Bums caught my house on fire with their candles. They tried to break in a few times. I also joined the Memphis auto club.

(05-01-2019 01:00 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  

(05-01-2019 12:01 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(05-01-2019 11:36 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(05-01-2019 11:32 AM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(05-01-2019 11:12 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  They have no thought of doing that. They want to turn America into the same type of Shithole country that they came from.

I understand that.

The only thing standing between today and their goal of global communistic government is the U.S. people and our Republican form of government.

Once we fall they've won.

And governments based on collectivism throughout history are replete with examples of brutal regimes which violently suppress and/or kill their citizens.

Yep. Im glad Im not a young person today. I really think their future is jeopardy...and by their own hands. It ideas being spread around by them are dangerous to America.

But here's what ticks me off...

Take Tennessee for example. It is a super-majority GOP.

Governor: GOP
Senate: GOP 26, Dem 5, Ind 1, Vacant 1 - 78.8%
House: GOP 73, Dem 26 - 73.7%

Republicans can pass ANYTHING they want with ZERO dem approval. If by chance, the Republican governor vetoes a bill, their are enough Republicans to override a veto.

In other words, Republicans in TN can do whatever they want. PERIOD.

So... why do the state-controlled public schools still include liberal indoctrination propaganda? Why don't they mandate conservative views?

My assumption is because Republicans, for the most part, are indeed RINOs. By NOT changing the state-run indoctrination camps they are complicit.

And those super-majority numbers are true for practically all Southern states.

Alabama
Governor: GOP
Senate: 27R-8D, 77.1%
House: 77R-28D, 73.3%

Mississippi
Governor: GOP
Senate: 33R-19D, 63.5%
House: 74R-48D, 60.7%

Arkansas
Governor: GOP
Senate: 26R-9D, 74.3%
House: 76R-24D, 76.0%

Louisiana, N Carolina, Virginia - Dem gov, GOP legislature

Georgia, Kentucky, Florida, S Carolina, Texas, Missouri - GOP across the board

The south, for the majority of it's existence has been a predominant one party rule. I think it's because politics are like a death sport there so everyone just conforms. A very conformist society from dress, food, haircuts, politics, religion, football, etc

Wow, you just profiled the entire South? Stereotype much?

(05-01-2019 01:02 PM)DustMyBroom Wrote:  

(05-01-2019 01:00 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  

(05-01-2019 12:01 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(05-01-2019 11:36 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(05-01-2019 11:32 AM)umbluegray Wrote:  I understand that.

The only thing standing between today and their goal of global communistic government is the U.S. people and our Republican form of government.

Once we fall they've won.

And governments based on collectivism throughout history are replete with examples of brutal regimes which violently suppress and/or kill their citizens.

Yep. Im glad Im not a young person today. I really think their future is jeopardy...and by their own hands. It ideas being spread around by them are dangerous to America.

But here's what ticks me off...

Take Tennessee for example. It is a super-majority GOP.

Governor: GOP
Senate: GOP 26, Dem 5, Ind 1, Vacant 1 - 78.8%
House: GOP 73, Dem 26 - 73.7%

Republicans can pass ANYTHING they want with ZERO dem approval. If by chance, the Republican governor vetoes a bill, their are enough Republicans to override a veto.

In other words, Republicans in TN can do whatever they want. PERIOD.

So... why do the state-controlled public schools still include liberal indoctrination propaganda? Why don't they mandate conservative views?

My assumption is because Republicans, for the most part, are indeed RINOs. By NOT changing the state-run indoctrination camps they are complicit.

And those super-majority numbers are true for practically all Southern states.

Alabama
Governor: GOP
Senate: 27R-8D, 77.1%
House: 77R-28D, 73.3%

Mississippi
Governor: GOP
Senate: 33R-19D, 63.5%
House: 74R-48D, 60.7%

Arkansas
Governor: GOP
Senate: 26R-9D, 74.3%
House: 76R-24D, 76.0%

Louisiana, N Carolina, Virginia - Dem gov, GOP legislature

Georgia, Kentucky, Florida, S Carolina, Texas, Missouri - GOP across the board

The south, for the majority of it's existence has been a predominant one party rule. I think it's because politics are like a death sport there so everyone just conforms. A very conformist society from dress, food, haircuts, politics, religion, football, etc

Hey kids, look! Yet another clown who benefits from free association with Southern culture while knowing absolutely nothing about it!

Exactly right. I think we've been culturally appropriated.

(05-01-2019 01:23 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  

(05-01-2019 09:04 AM)BadgerMJ Wrote:  

(05-01-2019 08:06 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  She is correct. Demographically, Hispanics, blacks and Asians will outnumber Caucasians within the next 25 years...Caucasians will have to accept it or this country will be torn to shreds.

Does that mean in 25 years we white folks can claim "minority" status and be eligible for all sorts of "programs"?

We'll be able to have....

Miss White America
WET - White Entertainment Television
NAAWP - National Association for the Advancement of White People
White Studies majors at universities.
White cultural requirements for graduates
White Lives Matter

Best part is no one can complain. What's good for the goose....

Focus your vitriol on the growing populations (Muslims, Hispanics, Indians and Asians) not the ones that were historically discriminated against.

Vitriol? Where? In your head? Why shouldn't we, as a minority, enjoy the same benefits of minority status as those who went before us?

(05-01-2019 02:01 PM)king king Wrote:  

(05-01-2019 01:41 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  Just more divisiveness by morons like her, under the guise of inclusivity... and the sheep follow.

We have NEVER been a 'white' country.

NEVER

We have certainly been a white majority and depending on how you define it, will continue to be for the foreseeable future. When it suits them to do so, Hispanics and Asians and even Arabs are 'white' according to the left. Anything to maintain their victim-hood.

The issue with 'racial identity' is that few ANGLOS (other than people like fauxcahontas) practice identity politics. I'm mostly Anglo, but also Cajun... meaning African, Am Indian and Hispanic... My DNA proves it.

However, I feel identifying as such in any way other than conversationally would be unfair to those who are substantially 'more' than I.

Keep pushing me though and I will. I'll have no choice.... and the '2 or more races' will quickly become the majority in this country and those who identify as black or Hispanic or Asian (alone) will continue to be a minority.

I'm betting that 'white alone' make up less than 25% of the country, and maybe less than 10%.

My DNA shows me to be 7% Ashkenazi Jew. My kinky fro hair proves that when it's grown out.

I'm 2% black. In all the wrong places.

That must have come from your mom's side.

(05-01-2019 02:15 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  

(05-01-2019 02:01 PM)king king Wrote:  

(05-01-2019 01:41 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  Just more divisiveness by morons like her, under the guise of inclusivity... and the sheep follow.

We have NEVER been a 'white' country.

NEVER

We have certainly been a white majority and depending on how you define it, will continue to be for the foreseeable future. When it suits them to do so, Hispanics and Asians and even Arabs are 'white' according to the left. Anything to maintain their victim-hood.

The issue with 'racial identity' is that few ANGLOS (other than people like fauxcahontas) practice identity politics. I'm mostly Anglo, but also Cajun... meaning African, Am Indian and Hispanic... My DNA proves it.

However, I feel identifying as such in any way other than conversationally would be unfair to those who are substantially 'more' than I.

Keep pushing me though and I will. I'll have no choice.... and the '2 or more races' will quickly become the majority in this country and those who identify as black or Hispanic or Asian (alone) will continue to be a minority.

I'm betting that 'white alone' make up less than 25% of the country, and maybe less than 10%.

My DNA shows me to be 7% Ashkenazi Jew. My kinky fro hair proves that when it's grown out.

I'm 2% black. In all the wrong places.

Hopefully you can cut a little rug.

He can, I think the 2% is misleading.