Are y'all the same ones who called for "Piano Man" to be the starter over Lynch, or maybe the same ones who called Ferguson "Hot Garbage"? If so, maybe you should reconsider your ability to evaluate a college QB. Or maybe you're just going for strike 3.

Go Tigers!

I’ll answer. None of the above. Was excited to have Brady White. After first couple games, liked the outcome vs the opponents we played but was kind of scratching my head because not exactly what I was imagining he would be. After navy was like, hmm; not really sure this guy is fast enough, at least he can sling it, let’s go Brady!! Moving on I was like come on Man U can do it. By seasons end of watching 12 games, don’t think this guy has the natural tools , arm strength, foot speed,to be the guy if we are gonna be a great team ; in the end after watching the season, losing 5 games with almost every starter returning my opinion was we need someone better to lead this team to double digit wins; the rest of the pieces are there, he is 4 years removed from high school and I don’t see him getting much better at this point. I think we need better quarterback play; even though I really like and root for him. Hopefully this answers your question.

(04-16-2019 04:36 PM)shirley temple Wrote:  I’ll answer. None of the above. Was excited to have Brady White. After first couple games, liked the outcome vs the opponents we played but was kind of scratching my head because not exactly what I was imagining he would be. After navy was like, hmm; not really sure this guy is fast enough, at least he can sling it, let’s go Brady!! Moving on I was like come on Man U can do it. By seasons end of watching 12 games, don’t think this guy has the natural tools , arm strength, foot speed,to be the guy if we are gonna be a great team ; in the end after watching the season, losing 5 games with almost every starter returning my opinion was we need someone better to lead this team to double digit wins; the rest of the pieces are there, he is 4 years removed from high school and I don’t see him getting much better at this point. I think we need better quarterback play; even though I really like and root for him. Hopefully this answers your question.

Don't blame the Navy game on BW. Norvells play calling was terrible.

(04-16-2019 05:14 PM)MemphisTigerPawr Wrote:  

(04-16-2019 04:36 PM)shirley temple Wrote:  I’ll answer. None of the above. Was excited to have Brady White. After first couple games, liked the outcome vs the opponents we played but was kind of scratching my head because not exactly what I was imagining he would be. After navy was like, hmm; not really sure this guy is fast enough, at least he can sling it, let’s go Brady!! Moving on I was like come on Man U can do it. By seasons end of watching 12 games, don’t think this guy has the natural tools , arm strength, foot speed,to be the guy if we are gonna be a great team ; in the end after watching the season, losing 5 games with almost every starter returning my opinion was we need someone better to lead this team to double digit wins; the rest of the pieces are there, he is 4 years removed from high school and I don’t see him getting much better at this point. I think we need better quarterback play; even though I really like and root for him. Hopefully this answers your question.

Don't blame the Navy game on BW. Norvells play calling was terrible.

we turned the ball over 4 times that game.
Navy turned it over once.
They ran for slightly more yards...Navy ran the ball 73x for 264 yards...for a 3.9 yard average.
Memphis ran 24x for 233 yards...and a 9.3 yard average.

Brady was 15-25 for 145 yards passing...and 1 interception which is very pedestrian...but the other 3 turnovers weren't all on Brady.
You cannot turn the ball over on Navy that many times..and expect to win.

and yes....there were some head scratching calls made by Norvell last year that made us all go "huh"?...
I attribute that to Dillingham being a rookie coordinator.
We have a guy now that has been there...done that before (yes I know Norvell calls the plays..yet his O coordinator calls out suggestions according to defensive alignments and tendencies.)

Need more straight pass plays, less RPO.

Need no rain this year.

This fanbase really exposes its stupidity with regard to White.

Do better.

(04-16-2019 03:50 PM)tcountytigerfan Wrote:  Are y'all the same ones who called for "Piano Man" to be the starter over Lynch, or maybe the same ones who called Ferguson "Hot Garbage"? If so, maybe you should reconsider your ability to evaluate a college QB. Or maybe you're just going for strike 3.

Go Tigers!

This was needed?

The OP aks a loaded question and yet the answer is no.
To be frustrated with QB play does not equate to stupidity or idiocy.
It’s normal and complicated.
Can someone run some statistics of QBR for BW in the wins vs losses?
He’s very good against non competitive teams and had a drop off against tougher defenses.
But who doesn’t?

Our defenses have been so poor, especially by giving up big plays in the secondary, there’s a wish by fans for a quarterback that can overcome that....unfortunately that wish likely won’t come true by next season. Just like last season, if our defense gets better, if our receivers, QB and lines play better, then we’ll have a better season.

He reminds me of Troy Aikman a little. Troy was a game manager, rarely did he win the games on his own, and when he was young in the NFL, very frustrating to watch. Once Troy got two deep threats at the same time and the running game was clicking then he excelled. But those Cowboys won because they also had great defenses (including a monster pass rusher).

BW probably won’t put this team on his shoulders. (We got spoiled by QBs that could win a game or lead a game winning drive on arm strength)
He needs a 2nd WR deep threat that won’t drop the ball, and a better defense.
Losing Henderson/Pollard is going to affect this O, those two talents might have been generational. When our O struggled in close games our fans felt frustrated. We will have close games in 2019. The difference could be 10-2 vs 7-5.
But it is a complex layering. Some of it was play calling, some bad luck, some bad weather, some poor late game clock management, some missed kicks. But QB’s are figure heads, representing the Offense and the entire team. Justifiably or not, they’ll get the credit when we win (beat cream puffs and inflate stats) and also the venting of our frustrations when we lose. It’s part of the game.

I hope BW does well, and plays better under pressure. Norvell has hitched our wagon to him and this team will only go as far as he (and the Defense, ST, WRs, line) can take us (NY6?)

I liked the abilities of Ferguson & Lynch when their time came. White has a decent & simple job, get the ball to the playmakers. His inability to throw downfield with accuracy is a problem. I've seen passes thrown behind & over wide open receivers. Yet, if Coach Norvell thinks he's the best we got, say no more. Which brings to mind a true statement by Donald Rumsfeld:
“You go to war with the army you have, not the army you might want or wish to have at a later time.”

(04-16-2019 11:35 PM)hartlessnhere Wrote:  I liked the abilities of Ferguson & Lynch when their time came. White has a decent & simple job, get the ball to the playmakers. His inability to throw downfield with accuracy is a problem. I've seen passes thrown behind & over wide open receivers. Yet, if Coach Norvell thinks he's the best we got, say no more. Which brings to mind a true statement by Donald Rumsfeld:
“You go to war with the army you have, not the army you might want or wish to have at a later time.”

Lynch had accuracy problems downfield also. Cost us at least two TDs against Duke because he could not lead the WR on deep crossing routes. They had to reach back for the ball allowing defenders to catch up them and stop them for little yards after the catch.

He was hurt prior to the Navy game and played the rest of the season injured. This is after coming off of an injury that kept him from planting and putting as power behind his throws. I expect things to be better this season.

Also remember that last year, we were playing with a very inexperienced WR corp. It showed. Against good talent, they shut down our WRs more often than not. Bad QB play isn't always about a bad QB. Even with his "bad" year... it was still statistically one of the five best in our history. It's amazing that we have come to the point that a performance like that elicits jeers from some of out fans. (that is both a good and bad thing)

(04-16-2019 05:14 PM)MemphisTigerPawr Wrote:  

(04-16-2019 04:36 PM)shirley temple Wrote:  I’ll answer. None of the above. Was excited to have Brady White. After first couple games, liked the outcome vs the opponents we played but was kind of scratching my head because not exactly what I was imagining he would be. After navy was like, hmm; not really sure this guy is fast enough, at least he can sling it, let’s go Brady!! Moving on I was like come on Man U can do it. By seasons end of watching 12 games, don’t think this guy has the natural tools , arm strength, foot speed,to be the guy if we are gonna be a great team ; in the end after watching the season, losing 5 games with almost every starter returning my opinion was we need someone better to lead this team to double digit wins; the rest of the pieces are there, he is 4 years removed from high school and I don’t see him getting much better at this point. I think we need better quarterback play; even though I really like and root for him. Hopefully this answers your question.

Don't blame the Navy game on BW. Norvells play calling was terrible.

You guys are amazing. No where did I blame him for anything in navy game. I didn’t even reference losing the navy game. I simply timelined my analysis of our quarterback. If some of you would quit being so defensive and look at this objectively and not personally; you will have a better chance of understanding. It’s not a personal attack. Most teams have up to 5 players at a position. But god forbid some of us feel We aren’t getting what we should or could get out of the position , you think it’s a personal attack.

I agree with Shirley temple root for him and was hoping he would be next guy up but not sold at all on him as QB, may be the best we have but doesn't mean he is good. The way we ended last season does not give me a lot of hope offensively this year. Hope he proves me wrong. We don't have a guy we can just turn and hand it to and have him score

If Norvell think he's the man to run the system, I'm fine with it.

(04-16-2019 05:14 PM)MemphisTigerPawr Wrote:  

(04-16-2019 04:36 PM)shirley temple Wrote:  I’ll answer. None of the above. Was excited to have Brady White. After first couple games, liked the outcome vs the opponents we played but was kind of scratching my head because not exactly what I was imagining he would be. After navy was like, hmm; not really sure this guy is fast enough, at least he can sling it, let’s go Brady!! Moving on I was like come on Man U can do it. By seasons end of watching 12 games, don’t think this guy has the natural tools , arm strength, foot speed,to be the guy if we are gonna be a great team ; in the end after watching the season, losing 5 games with almost every starter returning my opinion was we need someone better to lead this team to double digit wins; the rest of the pieces are there, he is 4 years removed from high school and I don’t see him getting much better at this point. I think we need better quarterback play; even though I really like and root for him. Hopefully this answers your question.

Don't blame the Navy game on BW. Norvells play calling was terrible.

The playcalling might have been bad. I don't remember.

What I do remember is Brady threw multiple passes straight to Tulane players. Luckily they didn't catch them all. The one I remember most is when a receiver was wide open past coverage, and Brady underthrew it by about 10 yards. The Tulane defender was so shocked he missed the easy pick.
And yes, I understand he was under pressure a lot that game.

(04-17-2019 12:21 AM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(04-16-2019 11:35 PM)hartlessnhere Wrote:  I liked the abilities of Ferguson & Lynch when their time came. White has a decent & simple job, get the ball to the playmakers. His inability to throw downfield with accuracy is a problem. I've seen passes thrown behind & over wide open receivers. Yet, if Coach Norvell thinks he's the best we got, say no more. Which brings to mind a true statement by Donald Rumsfeld:
“You go to war with the army you have, not the army you might want or wish to have at a later time.”

Lynch had accuracy problems downfield also. Cost us at least two TDs against Duke because he could not lead the WR on deep crossing routes. They had to reach back for the ball allowing defenders to catch up them and stop them for little yards after the catch.

Wasn't that his freshman year? That don't count with the improvements he made in his sophomore and junior seasons.

If our Oline is as good as last year he will be fine.

The Dude needs to go DEEP 3 to 4 times a game