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(03-07-2019 01:10 AM)Tigersmoke4 Wrote:  Well,,, you've proven that you don't know ish about basketball if you're lumping Memphis and Temple into some kind of made up " mid-major " hodge podge with Furman and Lipscomb and whatever other no name you listed,,, but then again you're obviously to embarrased to claim who you root for in your signature. 01-wingedeagle01-wingedeagle01-wingedeagle

I'm an A10 fan (second to my being a Big 5 fan - including Temple you rockstar you). And I don't recognize them as a major, either. You'd think I should...considering the A10 typically gets the same number, if not more bids, as the AAC.

But, as I posted (and you have proven), some simply can't look past the name on the jersey.

I hope the AAC gets there, though. Truly I do. As I wish the A10 would bounce back to 3-4 bids.

As a big 5 fan you realize that Temple is historically a top 20 team as is Memphis ( top 6 class so far nationally and expecting at least 2 more 5* commets). Add in UCONN (4 national championship) and a resurgent Houston (top 10 this year) along with Wichita and you're not looking at a " mid-major " conference. The AAC has been down the past 2-3 years but the resurgence is real.07-coffee3
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(03-07-2019 11:24 AM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote:  
(03-07-2019 01:10 AM)Tigersmoke4 Wrote:  Well,,, you've proven that you don't know ish about basketball if you're lumping Memphis and Temple into some kind of made up " mid-major " hodge podge with Furman and Lipscomb and whatever other no name you listed,,, but then again you're obviously to embarrased to claim who you root for in your signature. 01-wingedeagle01-wingedeagle01-wingedeagle

I'm an A10 fan (second to my being a Big 5 fan - including Temple you rockstar you). And I don't recognize them as a major, either. You'd think I should...considering the A10 typically gets the same number, if not more bids, as the AAC.

But, as I posted (and you have proven), some simply can't look past the name on the jersey.

I hope the AAC gets there, though. Truly I do. As I wish the A10 would bounce back to 3-4 bids.

The problem for the A10 vs the AAC is that the trend lines are clearly going 2 completely different directions.... The only way the A10 gets 2 this year is if VCU loses in the tourney. that's it. The AAC right now bare minimum gets 3 teams in. Temple has a very real shot as well... And Memphis is hosting the conference tourney.
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(03-07-2019 11:25 AM)Tigersmoke4 Wrote:  
(03-07-2019 09:25 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(03-07-2019 01:19 AM)Tigersmoke4 Wrote:  Hey if the Big East only gets 2 bids this year it's no big deal. Basketball is cyclical and the league just may be in a down turn right now like the AAC was the past couple of years, but the conference has proven that it can compete at the highest level of the game and will again soon just as the American is starting to do.04-cheers

The Big East has been down a little this year, but only a little. It has still been a top 5 conference (#5 in RPI, #4 in NET right now) well ahead of the AAC. It just hasn't been top-heavy so doesn't have many tournament prospects.

Agreed. Big east fans have nothing to worry about. Great conference with some hard nosed teams. 04-cheers
There are some concerns from the Big East now that we've not seen. First and foremost is the coaching. Fans from Butler, Creighton, St John's, and Xavier have all belly ached about their coaches this year. Especially with Butler and Xavier and their new coaches. Creighton and St John's have especially tricky situations- as they have their best player ever for St John's and their best players ever dad for Creighton. Delicate situations to say the least.
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(03-07-2019 09:25 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(03-07-2019 01:19 AM)Tigersmoke4 Wrote:  Hey if the Big East only gets 2 bids this year it's no big deal. Basketball is cyclical and the league just may be in a down turn right now like the AAC was the past couple of years, but the conference has proven that it can compete at the highest level of the game and will again soon just as the American is starting to do.04-cheers

The Big East has been down a little this year, but only a little. It has still been a top 5 conference (#5 in RPI, #4 in NET right now) well ahead of the AAC. It just hasn't been top-heavy so doesn't have many tournament prospects.

The league is beating up itself, and to Stever's point, the round-robin (in this case) is actually a detriment to the league's bids/seedings than an advantage. While the AAC does have programs like ECU and Tulane (historical cellar dwellers), I do like how they have fixed their schedules to ensure the top teams only have to play them once. It guarantees the top programs only one negative NET game (but ensuring a win), while getting some home/homes with other top programs in a given year.

For the Big East, I do think (long-term) having a program like DePaul get back to respectability is a good thing for the league. Chicago is a big basketball market, and if DePaul can get back to being a tournament team, it can only be beneficial. Next year, the Big East just needs to perform better in OOC, and the in-conference losses won't impact as much (theoretically).

With how many of the Big East teams were "rebuilding" this year - Villanova, Seton Hall, Providence, Xavier, Georgetown, Creighton and DePaul - there should be no surprise the league took a step back this year. I think the only disappointment thus far would really be St. John's due to their inconsistency, given their experience and star-power (Ponds). However, given their inconsistency, I would not be surprised to see them make a run in the BET or NCAAT in a few weeks. It's been that type of year.

I agree with all this in the sense that the Big East hasn't been as good this year as it was last year or the year before.

But, we still have been pretty darn good. Sure, you can always win more OOC games, but the bottom line is we are #5 in RPI and #4 in NET. You don't get that without performing pretty well against good teams from other conferences.
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(03-07-2019 11:25 AM)Tigersmoke4 Wrote:  Agreed. Big east fans have nothing to worry about. Great conference with some hard nosed teams. 04-cheers

FWIW, I hope Memphis makes the tournament. Penny has brought some excitement back to Memphis hoops and it's good to see a school with your pedigree climbing back in to the picture. I am praying Patrick Ewing can do the same for us, though i have my doubts. 04-cheers
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(03-07-2019 12:35 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(03-07-2019 11:25 AM)Tigersmoke4 Wrote:  Agreed. Big east fans have nothing to worry about. Great conference with some hard nosed teams. 04-cheers

FWIW, I hope Memphis makes the tournament. Penny has brought some excitement back to Memphis hoops and it's good to see a school with your pedigree climbing back in to the picture. I am praying Patrick Ewing can do the same for us, though i have my doubts. 04-cheers

Hey through all of the stuff bickering and nitpicking, I'll always defend the fact that the Big East is a power conference. They've shown through actual performance that they "belong ". In basketball 2 or 3 bad coaching hires can make a conference appear to be down when sometimes it's just some hires. The key to power is can teams and conference recover from that just as quickly. The problem is there are so many talking heads that live in the what have you done for me lately mode. Case in point, the pac12 hasn't really done anything in the 2 major sports in years. Excluding money and on a performance only level everyone fully expect them to bounce back eventually even though recent history may not support that. Now a program like UMASS or UNLV ( no offense) have proven that they were one coach wonders.
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(03-07-2019 12:32 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(03-07-2019 10:21 AM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  
(03-07-2019 09:25 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(03-07-2019 01:19 AM)Tigersmoke4 Wrote:  Hey if the Big East only gets 2 bids this year it's no big deal. Basketball is cyclical and the league just may be in a down turn right now like the AAC was the past couple of years, but the conference has proven that it can compete at the highest level of the game and will again soon just as the American is starting to do.04-cheers

The Big East has been down a little this year, but only a little. It has still been a top 5 conference (#5 in RPI, #4 in NET right now) well ahead of the AAC. It just hasn't been top-heavy so doesn't have many tournament prospects.

The league is beating up itself, and to Stever's point, the round-robin (in this case) is actually a detriment to the league's bids/seedings than an advantage. While the AAC does have programs like ECU and Tulane (historical cellar dwellers), I do like how they have fixed their schedules to ensure the top teams only have to play them once. It guarantees the top programs only one negative NET game (but ensuring a win), while getting some home/homes with other top programs in a given year.

For the Big East, I do think (long-term) having a program like DePaul get back to respectability is a good thing for the league. Chicago is a big basketball market, and if DePaul can get back to being a tournament team, it can only be beneficial. Next year, the Big East just needs to perform better in OOC, and the in-conference losses won't impact as much (theoretically).

With how many of the Big East teams were "rebuilding" this year - Villanova, Seton Hall, Providence, Xavier, Georgetown, Creighton and DePaul - there should be no surprise the league took a step back this year. I think the only disappointment thus far would really be St. John's due to their inconsistency, given their experience and star-power (Ponds). However, given their inconsistency, I would not be surprised to see them make a run in the BET or NCAAT in a few weeks. It's been that type of year.

I agree with all this in the sense that the Big East hasn't been as good this year as it was last year or the year before.

But, we still have been pretty darn good. Sure, you can always win more OOC games, but the bottom line is we are #5 in RPI and #4 in NET. You don't get that without performing pretty well against good teams from other conferences.

Billyjack posted elsewhere that the 2019 Big East has become the first 10+ team conference in college basketball history to have every team at 500 or better (Smaller-sized conferences have done it only 3 times in the past 40 seasons: 1995 Metro, with 7 teams; 1985 ACC, with 8 teams, got 5 bids; 1984 ACC, with 8 teams, got 5 bids).

It would be interesting to see the optimal value of projecting the maximum number of bids for the Big East with various numbers of members. At ten members, we hit seven bids a few seasons ago, but I don't think it is feasible to expect that year-to-year. If we were ever to move to eleven teams, would that increase the odds of the conference getting seven-plus bids? Twelve? More than that? At some point you start to decrease your value, not only in terms of television payouts, but also watering down the on-court product. The TV payouts should, in theory, be moot, however, since the original Fox TV deal language called for equal payouts to league membership for up-to-twelve members. Would a SLU and/or Dayton in the league this year increased the likely number of bids we would (will) have seen? What about a Duquesne? I'm honestly not sure.

FWIW, I only used those three schools due to institutional fit, location and spending on men's basketball - I realize strong arguments can be made about fit for the lack of postseason success for each program. Would acquiring an institutional fit, that could finish in the top-half every few seasons, increase the odds of getting more bids/higher seeds in the tournament?
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well we might just have an extra spot in the NCAA tourney after all.... Big accusations with LSU and their coach...
https://sports.yahoo.com/exclusive-wiret...46487.html

wouldn't be shocked if Wade never coaches LSU(or anyone else) again, and if LSU self bans themselves for this year.
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(03-07-2019 02:13 PM)stever20 Wrote:  well we might just have an extra spot in the NCAA tourney after all.... Big accusations with LSU and their coach...
https://sports.yahoo.com/exclusive-wiret...46487.html

wouldn't be shocked if Wade never coaches LSU(or anyone else) again, and if LSU self bans themselves for this year.

VCU got the final laugh on that one.
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(03-07-2019 01:20 PM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  
(03-07-2019 12:32 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(03-07-2019 10:21 AM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  
(03-07-2019 09:25 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(03-07-2019 01:19 AM)Tigersmoke4 Wrote:  Hey if the Big East only gets 2 bids this year it's no big deal. Basketball is cyclical and the league just may be in a down turn right now like the AAC was the past couple of years, but the conference has proven that it can compete at the highest level of the game and will again soon just as the American is starting to do.04-cheers

The Big East has been down a little this year, but only a little. It has still been a top 5 conference (#5 in RPI, #4 in NET right now) well ahead of the AAC. It just hasn't been top-heavy so doesn't have many tournament prospects.

The league is beating up itself, and to Stever's point, the round-robin (in this case) is actually a detriment to the league's bids/seedings than an advantage. While the AAC does have programs like ECU and Tulane (historical cellar dwellers), I do like how they have fixed their schedules to ensure the top teams only have to play them once. It guarantees the top programs only one negative NET game (but ensuring a win), while getting some home/homes with other top programs in a given year.

For the Big East, I do think (long-term) having a program like DePaul get back to respectability is a good thing for the league. Chicago is a big basketball market, and if DePaul can get back to being a tournament team, it can only be beneficial. Next year, the Big East just needs to perform better in OOC, and the in-conference losses won't impact as much (theoretically).

With how many of the Big East teams were "rebuilding" this year - Villanova, Seton Hall, Providence, Xavier, Georgetown, Creighton and DePaul - there should be no surprise the league took a step back this year. I think the only disappointment thus far would really be St. John's due to their inconsistency, given their experience and star-power (Ponds). However, given their inconsistency, I would not be surprised to see them make a run in the BET or NCAAT in a few weeks. It's been that type of year.

I agree with all this in the sense that the Big East hasn't been as good this year as it was last year or the year before.

But, we still have been pretty darn good. Sure, you can always win more OOC games, but the bottom line is we are #5 in RPI and #4 in NET. You don't get that without performing pretty well against good teams from other conferences.

Billyjack posted elsewhere that the 2019 Big East has become the first 10+ team conference in college basketball history to have every team at 500 or better (Smaller-sized conferences have done it only 3 times in the past 40 seasons: 1995 Metro, with 7 teams; 1985 ACC, with 8 teams, got 5 bids; 1984 ACC, with 8 teams, got 5 bids).

It would be interesting to see the optimal value of projecting the maximum number of bids for the Big East with various numbers of members. At ten members, we hit seven bids a few seasons ago, but I don't think it is feasible to expect that year-to-year. If we were ever to move to eleven teams, would that increase the odds of the conference getting seven-plus bids? Twelve? More than that? At some point you start to decrease your value, not only in terms of television payouts, but also watering down the on-court product. The TV payouts should, in theory, be moot, however, since the original Fox TV deal language called for equal payouts to league membership for up-to-twelve members. Would a SLU and/or Dayton in the league this year increased the likely number of bids we would (will) have seen? What about a Duquesne? I'm honestly not sure.

FWIW, I only used those three schools due to institutional fit, location and spending on men's basketball - I realize strong arguments can be made about fit for the lack of postseason success for each program. Would acquiring an institutional fit, that could finish in the top-half every few seasons, increase the odds of getting more bids/higher seeds in the tournament?

The .500 record is pretty close to meaningless now. I mean DePaul is 15-13 right now. Sounds great. But 7 of their 15 wins are Q4 wins. Yikes.

As far as the bids, if Big East went 11, they're going 20 conference games. So that's not going to help much IMO. If Big East went 12 teams, but 18 games- that's where you get helped. I mean right now there are 5 conferences who play 18 games with 12 teams. Only the Pac 12 has a 3rd place team with fewer than 12 conference wins right now. Only the Pac 12 has a 4th place team with fewer than 10 conference wins right now. Only 2 losing 5th and 6th place teams(both of those in the OVC, where 3rd place was 15-3 and 4th place was 13-5).

avg 3 in 12 team conf 12-4.8
avg 4 in 12 team conf 10.8-6
avg 5 in 12 team conf 8.8-8.2
avg 6 in 12 team conf 8.4-8.6
avg 7 in 12 team conf 7.6-9.2
avg 8 in 12 team conf 7.2-9.6
avg 3 in 10 team conf 10.8-6.8
avg 4 in 10 team conf 10-7.7
avg 5 in 10 team conf 8.4-9.1
avg 6 in 10 team conf 7.8-9.7

I'd add that the 3 and 4 numbers for the 10 team conferences are buffered by the Southern Conference where 3rd place and 4th place are 13-5.

I really think 12 teams/18 games is the way to go. If you have a weak team or 2, you can really hide them in there for your top teams. Being 6th in 12 team conference is better than being 5th in 10 team conference. With a bit to go almost no difference between being 8th in a 12 team conference and being 6th in a 10 team conference....
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(03-07-2019 02:13 PM)stever20 Wrote:  well we might just have an extra spot in the NCAA tourney after all.... Big accusations with LSU and their coach...
https://sports.yahoo.com/exclusive-wiret...46487.html

wouldn't be shocked if Wade never coaches LSU(or anyone else) again, and if LSU self bans themselves for this year.

Wow! Exactly. LSU and Memphis were battling for 5* forward Trendon Wadford. Looks like Memphis will be getting their 3rd 5* player for the class of 2019.04-cheers
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(03-07-2019 02:13 PM)stever20 Wrote:  well we might just have an extra spot in the NCAA tourney after all.... Big accusations with LSU and their coach...
https://sports.yahoo.com/exclusive-wiret...46487.html

wouldn't be shocked if Wade never coaches LSU(or anyone else) again, and if LSU self bans themselves for this year.

Wouldn't be surprised if nothing happens. Cheating is the name of the game for the P5.
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(03-07-2019 03:02 PM)Tigersmoke4 Wrote:  
(03-07-2019 02:13 PM)stever20 Wrote:  well we might just have an extra spot in the NCAA tourney after all.... Big accusations with LSU and their coach...
https://sports.yahoo.com/exclusive-wiret...46487.html

wouldn't be shocked if Wade never coaches LSU(or anyone else) again, and if LSU self bans themselves for this year.

Wow! Exactly. LSU and Memphis were battling for 5* forward Trendon Wadford. Looks like Memphis will be getting their 3rd 5* player for the class of 2019.04-cheers

Hopefully yall are doing it the right way. Teams in the American won't get let off as easy as the P5.
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(03-07-2019 11:35 AM)stever20 Wrote:  
(03-07-2019 11:24 AM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote:  
(03-07-2019 01:10 AM)Tigersmoke4 Wrote:  Well,,, you've proven that you don't know ish about basketball if you're lumping Memphis and Temple into some kind of made up " mid-major " hodge podge with Furman and Lipscomb and whatever other no name you listed,,, but then again you're obviously to embarrased to claim who you root for in your signature. 01-wingedeagle01-wingedeagle01-wingedeagle

I'm an A10 fan (second to my being a Big 5 fan - including Temple you rockstar you). And I don't recognize them as a major, either. You'd think I should...considering the A10 typically gets the same number, if not more bids, as the AAC.

But, as I posted (and you have proven), some simply can't look past the name on the jersey.

I hope the AAC gets there, though. Truly I do. As I wish the A10 would bounce back to 3-4 bids.

The problem for the A10 vs the AAC is that the trend lines are clearly going 2 completely different directions.... The only way the A10 gets 2 this year is if VCU loses in the tourney. that's it. The AAC right now bare minimum gets 3 teams in. Temple has a very real shot as well... And Memphis is hosting the conference tourney.

Yeah, and this may be a long-term settlement for the respective conferences. We're not there, yet, clearly, but I agree...they do appear to be going in different directions.

What I refuse to buy about the AAC's perceived arrival to prominence is that, once again, getting at least that third bid looks like it will be a challenge. While the A10 seems to be falling, the AAC is not rising from those losses. Both are just not getting bids that are, instead, going to the other major conferences (or so it seems so far). Yes, the A10 is failing to thrill. Well, so is AAC. Still. Despite the MANY names on the jerseys.

This was a good year for the conference. They've had better, though. Hope I'm wrong...would love to see Temple get there on Frannie's last year with them, but they probably need at least one more win against either Houston or Cincy, and both would go a long way.
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(03-07-2019 02:35 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  
(03-07-2019 02:13 PM)stever20 Wrote:  well we might just have an extra spot in the NCAA tourney after all.... Big accusations with LSU and their coach...
https://sports.yahoo.com/exclusive-wiret...46487.html

wouldn't be shocked if Wade never coaches LSU(or anyone else) again, and if LSU self bans themselves for this year.

VCU got the final laugh on that one.

LSU could likely defend that this import probably brought some of these issues with him. And VCU will get stung in some way.

We saw the committee pass on a major sitting in the reachable RPI numbers. If the committee decides to pass on LSU because of the likelihood of probation, vacating wins, etc., they could be the highest rated major to get the snub who were still technically eligible.
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(03-07-2019 04:54 PM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote:  
(03-07-2019 11:35 AM)stever20 Wrote:  
(03-07-2019 11:24 AM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote:  
(03-07-2019 01:10 AM)Tigersmoke4 Wrote:  Well,,, you've proven that you don't know ish about basketball if you're lumping Memphis and Temple into some kind of made up " mid-major " hodge podge with Furman and Lipscomb and whatever other no name you listed,,, but then again you're obviously to embarrased to claim who you root for in your signature. 01-wingedeagle01-wingedeagle01-wingedeagle

I'm an A10 fan (second to my being a Big 5 fan - including Temple you rockstar you). And I don't recognize them as a major, either. You'd think I should...considering the A10 typically gets the same number, if not more bids, as the AAC.

But, as I posted (and you have proven), some simply can't look past the name on the jersey.

I hope the AAC gets there, though. Truly I do. As I wish the A10 would bounce back to 3-4 bids.

The problem for the A10 vs the AAC is that the trend lines are clearly going 2 completely different directions.... The only way the A10 gets 2 this year is if VCU loses in the tourney. that's it. The AAC right now bare minimum gets 3 teams in. Temple has a very real shot as well... And Memphis is hosting the conference tourney.

Yeah, and this may be a long-term settlement for the respective conferences. We're not there, yet, clearly, but I agree...they do appear to be going in different directions.

What I refuse to buy about the AAC's perceived arrival to prominence is that, once again, getting at least that third bid looks like it will be a challenge. While the A10 seems to be falling, the AAC is not rising from those losses. Both are just not getting bids that are, instead, going to the other major conferences (or so it seems so far). Yes, the A10 is failing to thrill. Well, so is AAC. Still. Despite the MANY names on the jerseys.

This was a good year for the conference. They've had better, though. Hope I'm wrong...would love to see Temple get there on Frannie's last year with them, but they probably need at least one more win against either Houston or Cincy, and both would go a long way.

UCF is pretty darn close to a lock right now- pretty much no bad loss and they're in... If Temple can win 2 more games @ UConn and then either home vs UCF or @ Memphis- they're in. That would be 3 Q1 wins for Temple.
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RE: Laughable Scores - 2018/19 Men's Basketball - pt 2
(03-07-2019 05:01 PM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote:  
(03-07-2019 02:35 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  
(03-07-2019 02:13 PM)stever20 Wrote:  well we might just have an extra spot in the NCAA tourney after all.... Big accusations with LSU and their coach...
https://sports.yahoo.com/exclusive-wiret...46487.html

wouldn't be shocked if Wade never coaches LSU(or anyone else) again, and if LSU self bans themselves for this year.

VCU got the final laugh on that one.

LSU could likely defend that this import probably brought some of these issues with him. And VCU will get stung in some way.

We saw the committee pass on a major sitting in the reachable RPI numbers. If the committee decides to pass on LSU because of the likelihood of probation, vacating wins, etc., they could be the highest rated major to get the snub who were still technically eligible.

They would be. LSU's NET ranking as of today is 13. But to snub what might be the sole champion of a major conference seems highly unlikely.
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RE: Laughable Scores - 2018/19 Men's Basketball - pt 2
(03-07-2019 05:41 PM)jdgaucho Wrote:  
(03-07-2019 05:01 PM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote:  
(03-07-2019 02:35 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  
(03-07-2019 02:13 PM)stever20 Wrote:  well we might just have an extra spot in the NCAA tourney after all.... Big accusations with LSU and their coach...
https://sports.yahoo.com/exclusive-wiret...46487.html

wouldn't be shocked if Wade never coaches LSU(or anyone else) again, and if LSU self bans themselves for this year.

VCU got the final laugh on that one.

LSU could likely defend that this import probably brought some of these issues with him. And VCU will get stung in some way.

We saw the committee pass on a major sitting in the reachable RPI numbers. If the committee decides to pass on LSU because of the likelihood of probation, vacating wins, etc., they could be the highest rated major to get the snub who were still technically eligible.

They would be. LSU's NET ranking as of today is 13. But to snub what might be the sole champion of a major conference seems highly unlikely.
LSU will not be left out of this years tournament unless they choose to sit out. Period.
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RE: Laughable Scores - 2018/19 Men's Basketball - pt 2
(03-07-2019 04:54 PM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote:  
(03-07-2019 11:35 AM)stever20 Wrote:  
(03-07-2019 11:24 AM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote:  
(03-07-2019 01:10 AM)Tigersmoke4 Wrote:  Well,,, you've proven that you don't know ish about basketball if you're lumping Memphis and Temple into some kind of made up " mid-major " hodge podge with Furman and Lipscomb and whatever other no name you listed,,, but then again you're obviously to embarrased to claim who you root for in your signature. 01-wingedeagle01-wingedeagle01-wingedeagle

I'm an A10 fan (second to my being a Big 5 fan - including Temple you rockstar you). And I don't recognize them as a major, either. You'd think I should...considering the A10 typically gets the same number, if not more bids, as the AAC.

But, as I posted (and you have proven), some simply can't look past the name on the jersey.

I hope the AAC gets there, though. Truly I do. As I wish the A10 would bounce back to 3-4 bids.

The problem for the A10 vs the AAC is that the trend lines are clearly going 2 completely different directions.... The only way the A10 gets 2 this year is if VCU loses in the tourney. that's it. The AAC right now bare minimum gets 3 teams in. Temple has a very real shot as well... And Memphis is hosting the conference tourney.

Yeah, and this may be a long-term settlement for the respective conferences. We're not there, yet, clearly, but I agree...they do appear to be going in different directions.

What I refuse to buy about the AAC's perceived arrival to prominence is that, once again, getting at least that third bid looks like it will be a challenge. While the A10 seems to be falling, the AAC is not rising from those losses. Both are just not getting bids that are, instead, going to the other major conferences (or so it seems so far). Yes, the A10 is failing to thrill. Well, so is AAC. Still. Despite the MANY names on the jerseys.

This was a good year for the conference. They've had better, though. Hope I'm wrong...would love to see Temple get there on Frannie's last year with them, but they probably need at least one more win against either Houston or Cincy, and both would go a long way.

What??? Houston and Cincy and UCF are all in the top25 and are locks. Temple is in most brackets as the 4th AAC team, but one more win is preferable. Memphis has a top 50 net rating right now and the conference tournament is at FedEx Forum where Memphis has only lost twice giving the league 3 guarantees and a near lock for a 4th with a reason shot at 5 if Memphis can get to the championship game. Look I get it in football where the other 4 g5s want to think we're all equal but basketball is a different animal. The A10 is not anywhere near an equal to the AAC. Hey I understand your need to believe that though. 04-cheers
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RE: Laughable Scores - 2018/19 Men's Basketball - pt 2
(03-07-2019 06:22 PM)leofrog Wrote:  
(03-07-2019 05:41 PM)jdgaucho Wrote:  
(03-07-2019 05:01 PM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote:  
(03-07-2019 02:35 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  
(03-07-2019 02:13 PM)stever20 Wrote:  well we might just have an extra spot in the NCAA tourney after all.... Big accusations with LSU and their coach...
https://sports.yahoo.com/exclusive-wiret...46487.html

wouldn't be shocked if Wade never coaches LSU(or anyone else) again, and if LSU self bans themselves for this year.

VCU got the final laugh on that one.

LSU could likely defend that this import probably brought some of these issues with him. And VCU will get stung in some way.

We saw the committee pass on a major sitting in the reachable RPI numbers. If the committee decides to pass on LSU because of the likelihood of probation, vacating wins, etc., they could be the highest rated major to get the snub who were still technically eligible.

They would be. LSU's NET ranking as of today is 13. But to snub what might be the sole champion of a major conference seems highly unlikely.
LSU will not be left out of this years tournament unless they choose to sit out. Period.

Then they better sit some guys out other wise anything they win will be vacated in 3-4 years. If Louisville can't cheat to win then no way a mid-level program like LSU gets away with it.
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