Scott is arguably more over-paid than Aresco.

(02-13-2019 04:22 PM)YNot Wrote:  How does the PAC realistically get into the Central time zone? Could it pry away any B12 schools before Texas and Oklahoma leave? The only non-P5 schools that appear to meet the academic rigor are Rice and Tulane. Houston and Memphis would move the needle for football and basketball....but don't appear to check the academics or flagship/fan-following boxes.

So, 6-7 more years of the status quo?

The article that started this thread is about the Pac-12 Network problems. The network is too costly, has limited access in the West and is underperforming the revenue expectations of the Pac-12 schools. It is pointless to expand into the central time zone when there are few people with access to the network in the West. Expansion into any part of the country does not solve the Pac-12 Network issues.

(02-13-2019 02:54 PM)Stugray2 Wrote:  I have DirectTV and the P12N isn't even on it (BTN and SECN are). I'm not alone in the SF Bay Area.

And you and every other DirecTV subscriber probably never will. The reason is detailed in this very interesting article, also from the Mercury News, about the spinup of the PAC 12 networks. It has interviews with Scott and the then-lead negotiator for DirectTV.

The article is worth the full read, but the bottom line is that the PAC12 negotiated with cable providers first, and that set the price for the carriage fee. DirecTV would have had to pay that fee for every subscriber due to their inability do to switch it individually on and off, which they deemed not economical.

(02-13-2019 05:53 PM)SoCalBobcat78 Wrote:  

(02-13-2019 04:22 PM)YNot Wrote:  How does the PAC realistically get into the Central time zone? Could it pry away any B12 schools before Texas and Oklahoma leave? The only non-P5 schools that appear to meet the academic rigor are Rice and Tulane. Houston and Memphis would move the needle for football and basketball....but don't appear to check the academics or flagship/fan-following boxes.

So, 6-7 more years of the status quo?

The article that started this thread is about the Pac-12 Network problems. The network is too costly, has limited access in the West and is underperforming the revenue expectations of the Pac-12 schools. It is pointless to expand into the central time zone when there are few people with access to the network in the West. Expansion into any part of the country does not solve the Pac-12 Network issues.

Agreed. The only thing that would help with access in the main Pac-12 markets would be to add schools with lots of alumni in their core markets. Unlike the Big 10 or SEC, the PAC-12 schools are very spread out so their alumni bases don't overlap enough to help get penetration in large regions (Nevada, the Central Valley, Sacramento, San Diego).

So Texas, Oklahoma, etc would do nothing. Not many UT fans in CA. People are leaving CA for Texas, not the other way around.

The ideal schools to add - I hate to say this - are BYU and San Diego State. BYU has 370,000 alums and SDSU has 300,000. No other Western school has over 300,000 other than UCLA, Cal, USC, and Washington.

No other non-Pac12 school is even close (including the other U. of California campuses).

BYU alums are spread out all over the West, so that would help with penetration in every market.

SDSU would help with Southern CA penetration, which is crucial because it's half the population footprint of the conference but only has 2 Pac-12 schools.

(02-13-2019 03:45 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  It seems the big issue is that there are too many networks. If the PAC had just one network like the other conferences it would be more profitable as they wouldn’t have the costs of producing a ton of games for the regional areas.
The PAC 12 the can have a digital network for school production games for other sports much like the MW does for their digital network.

Maybe this is an aspect of the PAC's "conference of champions" mantra, such that they feel compelled to show lavish live coverage of sports nobody really cares about? Those regional PAC networks are probably quite expensive. A whole network just for Washington and Washington State?

FWIW, the SECN does have two channels, although usually only one is in use. But sometimes there are games on both. Not sure if that counts as two 'networks' though.

(02-13-2019 03:04 PM)No Bull Wrote:  

(02-13-2019 02:41 PM)loki_the_bubba Wrote:  

(02-13-2019 02:39 PM)No Bull Wrote:  

(02-13-2019 01:19 PM)CougarRed Wrote:  Information provided to the Hotline by SNL Kagan, the renown media research firm, indicates the Pac-12 Networks have lost seven percent of their audience since the peak in 2016, with much of the decline attributed to the discontinuation of service on U-verse last year.

With just 17.9 million subscribers (per Kagan), the Pac-12 Networks will have fewer subscribers in 2019 than The Pursuit Channel, The Sportsman Channel, Fox Deportes and Z Living, according to Nielsen cable coverage estimates from the fall.

ESPN analyst Brock Huard, the former Washington quarterback who hosts a radio show in Seattle, said the lack of reach has cast a pall over the conference, particularly in football.

“It affects everything. It impacts everything. It is your brand,” he said. “It is what you put out there for the country to see.

“We go on the road and go out to dinner as a (production) crew … and you go to Buffalo Wild Wings or a sports bar, anything you can find, and we want to watch these games and the network isn’t on. You can’t find it.

“It affects everything.”

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They have to expand into the central time zone if they want to materially increase subscribers to the brand-defining network that "affects everything."

The same with the MWC. They need Rice and another central time zone school.

If anything's gonna bring in big tv audiences it's Rice...

The MWC should invite Texas Tech.....

because they were surely accept the offer....

Yes, we will leave the Big 12 and make the MWC the premier G5 in the country.

(02-13-2019 01:19 PM)CougarRed Wrote:  Information provided to the Hotline by SNL Kagan, the renown media research firm, indicates the Pac-12 Networks have lost seven percent of their audience since the peak in 2016, with much of the decline attributed to the discontinuation of service on U-verse last year.

With just 17.9 million subscribers (per Kagan), the Pac-12 Networks will have fewer subscribers in 2019 than The Pursuit Channel, The Sportsman Channel, Fox Deportes and Z Living, according to Nielsen cable coverage estimates from the fall.

ESPN analyst Brock Huard, the former Washington quarterback who hosts a radio show in Seattle, said the lack of reach has cast a pall over the conference, particularly in football.

“It affects everything. It impacts everything. It is your brand,” he said. “It is what you put out there for the country to see.

“We go on the road and go out to dinner as a (production) crew … and you go to Buffalo Wild Wings or a sports bar, anything you can find, and we want to watch these games and the network isn’t on. You can’t find it.

“It affects everything.”

**********

They have to expand into the central time zone if they want to materially increase subscribers to the brand-defining network that "affects everything."

Multiple opportunities and the PAC has stayed quiet on expansion. I wonder if they want to replicate another try at their 2010 expansion targets? They know they can sit on the west coast and wait because no one else moves the needle for them.

http://www.coogfans.com/t/pac-needs-the-...-bad/17369

(02-13-2019 08:03 PM)P5PACSEC Wrote:  

(02-13-2019 01:19 PM)CougarRed Wrote:  Information provided to the Hotline by SNL Kagan, the renown media research firm, indicates the Pac-12 Networks have lost seven percent of their audience since the peak in 2016, with much of the decline attributed to the discontinuation of service on U-verse last year.

With just 17.9 million subscribers (per Kagan), the Pac-12 Networks will have fewer subscribers in 2019 than The Pursuit Channel, The Sportsman Channel, Fox Deportes and Z Living, according to Nielsen cable coverage estimates from the fall.

ESPN analyst Brock Huard, the former Washington quarterback who hosts a radio show in Seattle, said the lack of reach has cast a pall over the conference, particularly in football.

“It affects everything. It impacts everything. It is your brand,” he said. “It is what you put out there for the country to see.

“We go on the road and go out to dinner as a (production) crew … and you go to Buffalo Wild Wings or a sports bar, anything you can find, and we want to watch these games and the network isn’t on. You can’t find it.

“It affects everything.”

**********

They have to expand into the central time zone if they want to materially increase subscribers to the brand-defining network that "affects everything."

Multiple opportunities and the PAC has stayed quiet on expansion. I wonder if they want to replicate another try at their 2010 expansion targets? They know they can sit on the west coast and wait because no one else moves the needle for them.

http://www.coogfans.com/t/pac-needs-the-...-bad/17369

They can sit and wait to save the embarrassment of being turned down, because they don't move the needle for anyone else.

Lousy Larry is rapidly depreciating the value of the PAC 12 product. The 6 regional networks need to be slimmed to 3. Decreasing expenses needs to be top priority for the PAC 12. The PAC 12 schools need to invest in their revenue sports if they want to stay relevant. I think they are at risk of never catching back up with the other P leagues.

(02-13-2019 06:26 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  

(02-13-2019 05:53 PM)SoCalBobcat78 Wrote:  

(02-13-2019 04:22 PM)YNot Wrote:  How does the PAC realistically get into the Central time zone? Could it pry away any B12 schools before Texas and Oklahoma leave? The only non-P5 schools that appear to meet the academic rigor are Rice and Tulane. Houston and Memphis would move the needle for football and basketball....but don't appear to check the academics or flagship/fan-following boxes.

So, 6-7 more years of the status quo?

The article that started this thread is about the Pac-12 Network problems. The network is too costly, has limited access in the West and is underperforming the revenue expectations of the Pac-12 schools. It is pointless to expand into the central time zone when there are few people with access to the network in the West. Expansion into any part of the country does not solve the Pac-12 Network issues.

Agreed. The only thing that would help with access in the main Pac-12 markets would be to add schools with lots of alumni in their core markets. Unlike the Big 10 or SEC, the PAC-12 schools are very spread out so their alumni bases don't overlap enough to help get penetration in large regions (Nevada, the Central Valley, Sacramento, San Diego).

So Texas, Oklahoma, etc would do nothing. Not many UT fans in CA. People are leaving CA for Texas, not the other way around.

The ideal schools to add - I hate to say this - are BYU and San Diego State. BYU has 370,000 alums and SDSU has 300,000. No other Western school has over 300,000 other than UCLA, Cal, USC, and Washington.

No other non-Pac12 school is even close (including the other U. of California campuses).

BYU alums are spread out all over the West, so that would help with penetration in every market.

SDSU would help with Southern CA penetration, which is crucial because it's half the population footprint of the conference but only has 2 Pac-12 schools.

What about UC San Diego, and their growing enrollment? Their academics certainly trump SDSU's

(02-13-2019 09:04 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  Lousy Larry is rapidly depreciating the value of the PAC 12 product. The 6 regional networks need to be slimmed to 3. Decreasing expenses needs to be top priority for the PAC 12. The PAC 12 schools need to invest in their revenue sports if they want to stay relevant. I think they are at risk of never catching back up with the other P leagues.

I'd say trim down to 2 networks - one for the money sports, which they could sell to cable/satellite/streaming providers (more valuable than before!), the other should be essentially free, perhaps digital only. There just isn't enough compelling content for all those channels, IMO.

The PAC needs to cut to 1 national network and scrap the regionals. Instead have an overflow for the main network. They never got on with Directtv and at times the quality is not that great

Another big enemy is the time zone, resulting in late starts back east.


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The MWC is going nowhere too.

Maybe the PAC could work out a deal to stream MWC games to help bolster overall numbers.

These G5 conferences can really help as they bring saturation and inventory.

(02-13-2019 07:14 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(02-13-2019 03:45 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  It seems the big issue is that there are too many networks. If the PAC had just one network like the other conferences it would be more profitable as they wouldn’t have the costs of producing a ton of games for the regional areas.
The PAC 12 the can have a digital network for school production games for other sports much like the MW does for their digital network.

Maybe this is an aspect of the PAC's "conference of champions" mantra, such that they feel compelled to show lavish live coverage of sports nobody really cares about? Those regional PAC networks are probably quite expensive. A whole network just for Washington and Washington State?

FWIW, the SECN does have two channels, although usually only one is in use. But sometimes there are games on both. Not sure if that counts as two 'networks' though.

The SECN actually has 2 overflow feeds although it probably depends on what market you're in or what provider you have as to how many you can access. With that said, I've never seen both overflow feeds operational at the same time so I'm not sure why they need them.

I don't know that all those additional feeds for the PAC 12 really cost a lot, but I would think there are unnecessary production costs for covering so many different events no one cares about.

With the SEC, virtually every event is covered, but a ton of content is available on SECN+ which I believe basically rolls into ESPN3. I'm in the footprint so I'm not exactly sure how it works outside SEC territory. Anyway, most events obviously don't make the main channel...not enough time slots, but the reach and cost effectiveness of ESPN does allow a lot of those events to be available digitally. Contrast that with the PAC 12 and the fact they have no media partner to share costs or help with distribution. They still go to the trouble of trying to cover all those events which has to bump up the costs.

Add to that the lack of marketability when you spend so much energy covering events few people are watching. I'm sure it hurts ad sales too because advertisers have more opportunities to get in front of the audience than would be necessary. Too much supply and not enough demand. It would be better to produce select events that the typical fan would be interested in and then market that on the main channel.

The biggest problem is the lack of a media partner, but they've doubled down on the problems by trying to do things only major media partners are capable of executing.

Sounds like Larry Scott saw what the BTN was doing and assumed he could get similar carriage deals just by creating the product. His presentation on the revenue seems to be very rudimentary. The powers that be never considered the economics were a little more complicated.

With that said, I don't really buy the line that this media company was supposed to be an investment. It's only a sound investment if it's profitable and clearly they expected this thing to be generating serious money. The investment pays off if a major media company comes along and buys it for a lot more than it cost to start up...Silicon Valley thinking I suppose. But if it's barely breaking even then there's not much value in a major player coming along and buying it.

(02-13-2019 06:26 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  

(02-13-2019 05:53 PM)SoCalBobcat78 Wrote:  

(02-13-2019 04:22 PM)YNot Wrote:  How does the PAC realistically get into the Central time zone? Could it pry away any B12 schools before Texas and Oklahoma leave? The only non-P5 schools that appear to meet the academic rigor are Rice and Tulane. Houston and Memphis would move the needle for football and basketball....but don't appear to check the academics or flagship/fan-following boxes.

So, 6-7 more years of the status quo?

The article that started this thread is about the Pac-12 Network problems. The network is too costly, has limited access in the West and is underperforming the revenue expectations of the Pac-12 schools. It is pointless to expand into the central time zone when there are few people with access to the network in the West. Expansion into any part of the country does not solve the Pac-12 Network issues.

Agreed. The only thing that would help with access in the main Pac-12 markets would be to add schools with lots of alumni in their core markets. Unlike the Big 10 or SEC, the PAC-12 schools are very spread out so their alumni bases don't overlap enough to help get penetration in large regions (Nevada, the Central Valley, Sacramento, San Diego).

So Texas, Oklahoma, etc would do nothing. Not many UT fans in CA. People are leaving CA for Texas, not the other way around.

The ideal schools to add - I hate to say this - are BYU and San Diego State. BYU has 370,000 alums and SDSU has 300,000. No other Western school has over 300,000 other than UCLA, Cal, USC, and Washington.

No other non-Pac12 school is even close (including the other U. of California campuses).

BYU alums are spread out all over the West, so that would help with penetration in every market.

SDSU would help with Southern CA penetration, which is crucial because it's half the population footprint of the conference but only has 2 Pac-12 schools.

In addition to cost-savings such as streamlining content into the national channel and not wasting production resources on virtually valueless content, an out-of-the-box western expansion is to invite BYU, SDSU, and Gonzaga for Olympic sports and then affiliate with BYU and newly-independent SDSU and Hawaii football for OOC games, bowls, and TV rights.

Keep the PAC 12 football divisions as is, but add 4 or 5 OOC games a year with each of BYU, Hawaii, and SDSU. Perhaps also consider to reduce conference games to 8, in an effort to reduce the aggregate number of guaranteed conference losses (and improve the top team's win-loss records) and increase the number of PAC game inventory.

As mere affiliates, you add 18+ games of football inventory and 40+ games of basketball inventory - for both ESPN/FOX and the PAC Network - but at a significantly reduced cost. As stated by others, BYU and SDSU (and Gonzaga) help with in-market distribution for the PAC Network.

With Hawaii, the PAC could own Week 0 and start the season with fantastic coverage. Stack football schedules to arrange for kickoffs to improve exposure within the footprint and without. The Mountain timezone teams could have a couple of 11am local kickoffs and tipoffs (1pm ET) each season to provide some earlier PAC games, whether on ESPN/FOX or PACTV. SDSU and Hawaii/Gonzaga could bear more of the late 10pm ET kickoff and tipoff time slots - which is a reasonable local start-time, as well as bear some of the weeknight game burden.

In 2019, the PAC has only 4 games in 5 out of 14 weeks - 35% of the weeks during the season. It has 5 or fewer games in 8 out of the 14 weeks - over half the season. Only 3 weeks (Weeks 1, 2, & 3) have more than 6 games to which the PAC owns the media rights. With such meager weekly inventory available, and frequent 10pm ET start-time and week-night commitments, it's no wonder the PAC 12 is lagging and the PAC Network is struggling...there's not enough content!

With the additional BYU, SDSU, and Hawaii inventory, most weeks would have 6 or 7 broadcast options, and some weeks could have 10+ games of inventory.

And, to cap it off, the expanded PAC Olympic sports align into three nicely-structured 5-team scheduling divisions:

NORTHWEST: Oregon, OSU, Washington, WSU, Gonzaga
PACIFIC: Cal, Stanford, UCLA, USC, SDSU
MOUNTAIN: Arizona, ASU, Utah, BYU, Colorado

And, historically Gonzaga and BYU travel well for basketball road games within the PAC footprint and Gonzaga, BYU, and SDSU fans travel well to conference basketball tournaments in Vegas.

(02-13-2019 11:13 PM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  The MWC is going nowhere too.

Maybe the PAC could work out a deal to stream MWC games to help bolster overall numbers.

These G5 conferences can really help as they bring saturation and inventory.

The markets they gain would be Hawaii, Idaho, New Mexico and Wyoming. If MWC could get UTEP and North Dakota State on board? You get 2 more states. They need to also do one with Big Sky and GNAC as well. Montana, Alaska and British Columbia would help. You do get one major tv market with Vancouver.

(02-14-2019 01:37 PM)YNot Wrote:  

(02-13-2019 06:26 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  

(02-13-2019 05:53 PM)SoCalBobcat78 Wrote:  

(02-13-2019 04:22 PM)YNot Wrote:  How does the PAC realistically get into the Central time zone? Could it pry away any B12 schools before Texas and Oklahoma leave? The only non-P5 schools that appear to meet the academic rigor are Rice and Tulane. Houston and Memphis would move the needle for football and basketball....but don't appear to check the academics or flagship/fan-following boxes.

So, 6-7 more years of the status quo?

The article that started this thread is about the Pac-12 Network problems. The network is too costly, has limited access in the West and is underperforming the revenue expectations of the Pac-12 schools. It is pointless to expand into the central time zone when there are few people with access to the network in the West. Expansion into any part of the country does not solve the Pac-12 Network issues.

Agreed. The only thing that would help with access in the main Pac-12 markets would be to add schools with lots of alumni in their core markets. Unlike the Big 10 or SEC, the PAC-12 schools are very spread out so their alumni bases don't overlap enough to help get penetration in large regions (Nevada, the Central Valley, Sacramento, San Diego).

So Texas, Oklahoma, etc would do nothing. Not many UT fans in CA. People are leaving CA for Texas, not the other way around.

The ideal schools to add - I hate to say this - are BYU and San Diego State. BYU has 370,000 alums and SDSU has 300,000. No other Western school has over 300,000 other than UCLA, Cal, USC, and Washington.

No other non-Pac12 school is even close (including the other U. of California campuses).

BYU alums are spread out all over the West, so that would help with penetration in every market.

SDSU would help with Southern CA penetration, which is crucial because it's half the population footprint of the conference but only has 2 Pac-12 schools.

In addition to cost-savings such as streamlining content into the national channel and not wasting production resources on virtually valueless content, an out-of-the-box western expansion is to invite BYU, SDSU, and Gonzaga for Olympic sports and then affiliate with BYU and newly-independent SDSU and Hawaii football for OOC games, bowls, and TV rights.

Keep the PAC 12 football divisions as is, but add 4 or 5 OOC games a year with each of BYU, Hawaii, and SDSU. Perhaps also consider to reduce conference games to 8, in an effort to reduce the aggregate number of guaranteed conference losses (and improve the top team's win-loss records) and increase the number of PAC game inventory.

As mere affiliates, you add 18+ games of football inventory and 40+ games of basketball inventory - for both ESPN/FOX and the PAC Network - but at a significantly reduced cost. As stated by others, BYU and SDSU (and Gonzaga) help with in-market distribution for the PAC Network.

With Hawaii, the PAC could own Week 0 and start the season with fantastic coverage. Stack football schedules to arrange for kickoffs to improve exposure within the footprint and without. The Mountain timezone teams could have a couple of 11am local kickoffs and tipoffs (1pm ET) each season to provide some earlier PAC games, whether on ESPN/FOX or PACTV. SDSU and Hawaii/Gonzaga could bear more of the late 10pm ET kickoff and tipoff time slots - which is a reasonable local start-time, as well as bear some of the weeknight game burden.

In 2019, the PAC has only 4 games in 5 out of 14 weeks - 35% of the weeks during the season. It has 5 or fewer games in 8 out of the 14 weeks - over half the season. Only 3 weeks (Weeks 1, 2, & 3) have more than 6 games to which the PAC owns the media rights. With such meager weekly inventory available, and frequent 10pm ET start-time and week-night commitments, it's no wonder the PAC 12 is lagging and the PAC Network is struggling...there's not enough content!

With the additional BYU, SDSU, and Hawaii inventory, most weeks would have 6 or 7 broadcast options, and some weeks could have 10+ games of inventory.

And, to cap it off, the expanded PAC Olympic sports align into three nicely-structured 5-team scheduling divisions:

NORTHWEST: Oregon, OSU, Washington, WSU, Gonzaga
PACIFIC: Cal, Stanford, UCLA, USC, SDSU
MOUNTAIN: Arizona, ASU, Utah, BYU, Colorado

And, historically Gonzaga and BYU travel well for basketball road games within the PAC footprint and Gonzaga, BYU, and SDSU fans travel well to conference basketball tournaments in Vegas.

It has already been clearly established the PAC wants nothing to do with BYU-Provo. Put Boise in as football only.


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(02-14-2019 01:57 PM)Jjoey52 Wrote:  

(02-14-2019 01:37 PM)YNot Wrote:  

(02-13-2019 06:26 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  

(02-13-2019 05:53 PM)SoCalBobcat78 Wrote:  

(02-13-2019 04:22 PM)YNot Wrote:  How does the PAC realistically get into the Central time zone? Could it pry away any B12 schools before Texas and Oklahoma leave? The only non-P5 schools that appear to meet the academic rigor are Rice and Tulane. Houston and Memphis would move the needle for football and basketball....but don't appear to check the academics or flagship/fan-following boxes.

So, 6-7 more years of the status quo?

The article that started this thread is about the Pac-12 Network problems. The network is too costly, has limited access in the West and is underperforming the revenue expectations of the Pac-12 schools. It is pointless to expand into the central time zone when there are few people with access to the network in the West. Expansion into any part of the country does not solve the Pac-12 Network issues.

Agreed. The only thing that would help with access in the main Pac-12 markets would be to add schools with lots of alumni in their core markets. Unlike the Big 10 or SEC, the PAC-12 schools are very spread out so their alumni bases don't overlap enough to help get penetration in large regions (Nevada, the Central Valley, Sacramento, San Diego).

So Texas, Oklahoma, etc would do nothing. Not many UT fans in CA. People are leaving CA for Texas, not the other way around.

The ideal schools to add - I hate to say this - are BYU and San Diego State. BYU has 370,000 alums and SDSU has 300,000. No other Western school has over 300,000 other than UCLA, Cal, USC, and Washington.

No other non-Pac12 school is even close (including the other U. of California campuses).

BYU alums are spread out all over the West, so that would help with penetration in every market.

SDSU would help with Southern CA penetration, which is crucial because it's half the population footprint of the conference but only has 2 Pac-12 schools.

In addition to cost-savings such as streamlining content into the national channel and not wasting production resources on virtually valueless content, an out-of-the-box western expansion is to invite BYU, SDSU, and Gonzaga for Olympic sports and then affiliate with BYU and newly-independent SDSU and Hawaii football for OOC games, bowls, and TV rights.

Keep the PAC 12 football divisions as is, but add 4 or 5 OOC games a year with each of BYU, Hawaii, and SDSU. Perhaps also consider to reduce conference games to 8, in an effort to reduce the aggregate number of guaranteed conference losses (and improve the top team's win-loss records) and increase the number of PAC game inventory.

As mere affiliates, you add 18+ games of football inventory and 40+ games of basketball inventory - for both ESPN/FOX and the PAC Network - but at a significantly reduced cost. As stated by others, BYU and SDSU (and Gonzaga) help with in-market distribution for the PAC Network.

With Hawaii, the PAC could own Week 0 and start the season with fantastic coverage. Stack football schedules to arrange for kickoffs to improve exposure within the footprint and without. The Mountain timezone teams could have a couple of 11am local kickoffs and tipoffs (1pm ET) each season to provide some earlier PAC games, whether on ESPN/FOX or PACTV. SDSU and Hawaii/Gonzaga could bear more of the late 10pm ET kickoff and tipoff time slots - which is a reasonable local start-time, as well as bear some of the weeknight game burden.

In 2019, the PAC has only 4 games in 5 out of 14 weeks - 35% of the weeks during the season. It has 5 or fewer games in 8 out of the 14 weeks - over half the season. Only 3 weeks (Weeks 1, 2, & 3) have more than 6 games to which the PAC owns the media rights. With such meager weekly inventory available, and frequent 10pm ET start-time and week-night commitments, it's no wonder the PAC 12 is lagging and the PAC Network is struggling...there's not enough content!

With the additional BYU, SDSU, and Hawaii inventory, most weeks would have 6 or 7 broadcast options, and some weeks could have 10+ games of inventory.

And, to cap it off, the expanded PAC Olympic sports align into three nicely-structured 5-team scheduling divisions:

NORTHWEST: Oregon, OSU, Washington, WSU, Gonzaga
PACIFIC: Cal, Stanford, UCLA, USC, SDSU
MOUNTAIN: Arizona, ASU, Utah, BYU, Colorado

And, historically Gonzaga and BYU travel well for basketball road games within the PAC footprint and Gonzaga, BYU, and SDSU fans travel well to conference basketball tournaments in Vegas.

It has already been clearly established the PAC wants nothing to do with BYU-Provo. Put Boise in as football only.


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Montana State in as football only? They are now R1 according to Carnegie. They are becoming like a PAC 12 academics school.

(02-13-2019 03:45 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  It seems the big issue is that there are too many networks. If the PAC had just one network like the other conferences it would be more profitable as they wouldn’t have the costs of producing a ton of games for the regional areas.
The PAC 12 the can have a digital network for school production games for other sports much like the MW does for their digital network.

PAC12's problem is easily fixable. Just add two Oklahoma and four Texas schools. Move two Arizona schools and Colorado to the eastern division. The other current nine schools will be in the western division.

(02-14-2019 06:30 PM)ArQ Wrote:  

(02-13-2019 03:45 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  It seems the big issue is that there are too many networks. If the PAC had just one network like the other conferences it would be more profitable as they wouldn’t have the costs of producing a ton of games for the regional areas.
The PAC 12 the can have a digital network for school production games for other sports much like the MW does for their digital network.

PAC12's problem is easily fixable. Just add two Oklahoma and four Texas schools. Move two Arizona schools and Colorado to the eastern division. The other current nine schools will be in the western division.

That would work except for a few issues:

Texas and Oklahoma require tag-along schools--academic snobs in the PAC 12 don't want those schools.

Texas and Oklahoma could make more money and get better exposure moving east rather than west.

The PAC has backed itself into a corner and has made improvement by means of expansion next to impossible.