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(02-02-2019 09:54 PM)skyblade Wrote:  Scott, Broome and Brooks have all played bad tonight. Luckily JC doesn't have bad games anymore.

Broome?

you may want to get a new TV or get some glasses

Nsoseme and Fredericks both gave us some good defensive rebounding. I thought Broome had a good game tonight( 11points, three assists and no turnovers) If we lost tonight you could look at I think 4 empty possessions midway in the second half where we failed to expand our six point lead which was helped by some bad turnovers by Williams, quick 3 point attempt by Fredericks and bad turnover by Jarron trying to pass to a moving Nsoseme.

Tre Scott was a pleasant surprise to start the sseason

his play and effort has really slipped

(02-02-2019 10:37 PM)HoopsJunky Wrote:  Tre Scott was a pleasant surprise to start the sseason

his play and effort has really slipped

He simply is not strong or physical enough to play in games where the refs allow a lot of rough play. If he could had 20 lbs of muscle in the offseason Tre could become a real force.

(02-02-2019 10:34 PM)cincybb51 Wrote:  Nsoseme and Fredericks both gave us some good defensive rebounding. I thought Broome had a good game tonight( 11points, three assists and no turnovers) If we lost tonight you could look at I think 4 empty possessions midway in the second half where we failed to expand our six point lead which was helped by some bad turnovers by Williams, quick 3 point attempt by Fredericks and bad turnover by Jarron trying to pass to a moving Nsoseme.

And a similar set of 4 series when we were up by 10 with about a minute and a half to go in the first half.

Comments from Coach, Moore, & Brooks...

(02-02-2019 10:30 PM)HoopsJunky Wrote:  

(02-02-2019 09:54 PM)skyblade Wrote:  Scott, Broome and Brooks have all played bad tonight. Luckily JC doesn't have bad games anymore.

Broome?

you may want to get a new TV or get some glasses

I thought Brooke had a good game. I liked the way he got to the hoop.

(02-03-2019 08:10 AM)Bcatbog Wrote:  

(02-02-2019 10:30 PM)HoopsJunky Wrote:  

(02-02-2019 09:54 PM)skyblade Wrote:  Scott, Broome and Brooks have all played bad tonight. Luckily JC doesn't have bad games anymore.

Broome?

you may want to get a new TV or get some glasses

I thought Brooke had a good game. I liked the way he got to the hoop.

Broome had a good first half. But the second half was bad for him. He was part of a TO that was credited to Cumberland, but was largely his fault. He took a three that was as good as a TO, where he brings ball up court, dribbles into 3 and takes it without ever passing the ball - a horrible shot for him that he can have any time and almost never makes. He also gave up a wide open 3 by cheating off his man to try to help on a guy who was guarded and one of our bigs already had help on the drive. He scored only 2 points (which where the FT's at the very end of the game). Broome is good when he is driving and scoring at the hoop (1st half) but bad if he is content to shoot 3's or isn't scoring (2nd half).

My concern coming out of SMU game...vulnerability to the 3 point game.

SMU and several others have "solved" our zone well enough to get a lot of open 3 point shots. If they hit a slightly higher percentage, we would have been in trouble.

Not all of their 3's were open. SMU hit several with a hand in their face. Not necessarily bad defense, but vulnerable.

Of course, shooting 3's is a little like shooting FT's. Just because you should be able to make them does not mean that you will make them. (That air ball to end the game being a prime example. )

Went to my first game in the new shoe last night.

For basically working under the limitations of putting a new arena in an old shell, they did a fantastic job! It went from being all about functionality to all about seeing the game. I was in 201 in the corner. Loved that I was looking right at the game and not having to sit there looking sideways all game.

That said, it was much closer than I expected but we're just going to have to accept that teams are going to play their absolute best games against us.

SMU will probably go out and lose to Monsters University now.

maybe janky ain't so stanky. when's the last time he had a healthy team?

(02-03-2019 08:30 AM)skyblade Wrote:  

(02-03-2019 08:10 AM)Bcatbog Wrote:  

(02-02-2019 10:30 PM)HoopsJunky Wrote:  

(02-02-2019 09:54 PM)skyblade Wrote:  Scott, Broome and Brooks have all played bad tonight. Luckily JC doesn't have bad games anymore.

Broome?

you may want to get a new TV or get some glasses

I thought Brooke had a good game. I liked the way he got to the hoop.

Broome had a good first half. But the second half was bad for him. He was part of a TO that was credited to Cumberland, but was largely his fault. He took a three that was as good as a TO, where he brings ball up court, dribbles into 3 and takes it without ever passing the ball - a horrible shot for him that he can have any time and almost never makes. He also gave up a wide open 3 by cheating off his man to try to help on a guy who was guarded and one of our bigs already had help on the drive. He scored only 2 points (which where the FT's at the very end of the game). Broome is good when he is driving and scoring at the hoop (1st half) but bad if he is content to shoot 3's or isn't scoring (2nd half).

11 points on 4-9
0 Turnovers
3 assists

i will take that EVERY game from him

Mick highlighted Broome and Trevor Moore in his post game conference

UC doesn’t win if Cane AND Trevor both don’t step up

Not sure why Cane gets so much hate on here

(02-03-2019 08:30 AM)skyblade Wrote:  

(02-03-2019 08:10 AM)Bcatbog Wrote:  

(02-02-2019 10:30 PM)HoopsJunky Wrote:  

(02-02-2019 09:54 PM)skyblade Wrote:  Scott, Broome and Brooks have all played bad tonight. Luckily JC doesn't have bad games anymore.

Broome?

you may want to get a new TV or get some glasses

I thought Brooke had a good game. I liked the way he got to the hoop.

Broome had a good first half. But the second half was bad for him. He was part of a TO that was credited to Cumberland, but was largely his fault. He took a three that was as good as a TO, where he brings ball up court, dribbles into 3 and takes it without ever passing the ball - a horrible shot for him that he can have any time and almost never makes. He also gave up a wide open 3 by cheating off his man to try to help on a guy who was guarded and one of our bigs already had help on the drive. He scored only 2 points (which where the FT's at the very end of the game). Broome is good when he is driving and scoring at the hoop (1st half) but bad if he is content to shoot 3's or isn't scoring (2nd half).

Constructive criticism for ya. When you are wrong, admit it. Don't do another post being more wronger. (See Virginia Governor for reference)

I'd take that output from Cane every game.

(02-03-2019 09:37 AM)HoopsJunky Wrote:  

(02-03-2019 08:30 AM)skyblade Wrote:  

(02-03-2019 08:10 AM)Bcatbog Wrote:  

(02-02-2019 10:30 PM)HoopsJunky Wrote:  

(02-02-2019 09:54 PM)skyblade Wrote:  Scott, Broome and Brooks have all played bad tonight. Luckily JC doesn't have bad games anymore.

Broome?

you may want to get a new TV or get some glasses

I thought Brooke had a good game. I liked the way he got to the hoop.

Broome had a good first half. But the second half was bad for him. He was part of a TO that was credited to Cumberland, but was largely his fault. He took a three that was as good as a TO, where he brings ball up court, dribbles into 3 and takes it without ever passing the ball - a horrible shot for him that he can have any time and almost never makes. He also gave up a wide open 3 by cheating off his man to try to help on a guy who was guarded and one of our bigs already had help on the drive. He scored only 2 points (which where the FT's at the very end of the game). Broome is good when he is driving and scoring at the hoop (1st half) but bad if he is content to shoot 3's or isn't scoring (2nd half).

11 points on 4-9
0 Turnovers
3 assists

i will take that EVERY game from him

Mick highlighted Broome and Trevor Moore in his post game conference

UC doesn’t win if Cane AND Trevor both don’t step up

Not sure why Cane gets so much hate on here

I don't hate Broome. He's just not the star that many people want him to be. I see him very similar to how I saw Kyle Washington last year. When he's scoring by going to his strength it is good for the team. But when he isn't going to the hoop he is both an defensive liability (Mick said post-game that Broome didn't play as much 2nd half because of his D) and an offensive liability (takes bad shots and TO's). 1st half he went to the hoop and he was good, 2nd half he didn't and he was bad and deservedly spent much of it on the bench.

(02-03-2019 09:37 AM)HoopsJunky Wrote:  

(02-03-2019 08:30 AM)skyblade Wrote:  

(02-03-2019 08:10 AM)Bcatbog Wrote:  

(02-02-2019 10:30 PM)HoopsJunky Wrote:  

(02-02-2019 09:54 PM)skyblade Wrote:  Scott, Broome and Brooks have all played bad tonight. Luckily JC doesn't have bad games anymore.

Broome?

you may want to get a new TV or get some glasses

I thought Brooke had a good game. I liked the way he got to the hoop.

Broome had a good first half. But the second half was bad for him. He was part of a TO that was credited to Cumberland, but was largely his fault. He took a three that was as good as a TO, where he brings ball up court, dribbles into 3 and takes it without ever passing the ball - a horrible shot for him that he can have any time and almost never makes. He also gave up a wide open 3 by cheating off his man to try to help on a guy who was guarded and one of our bigs already had help on the drive. He scored only 2 points (which where the FT's at the very end of the game). Broome is good when he is driving and scoring at the hoop (1st half) but bad if he is content to shoot 3's or isn't scoring (2nd half).

11 points on 4-9
0 Turnovers
3 assists

i will take that EVERY game from him

Mick highlighted Broome and Trevor Moore in his post game conference

UC doesn’t win if Cane AND Trevor both don’t step up

Not sure why Cane gets so much hate on here

I don't understand either; Cane's driving ability really opens up things on offense at times when things are stagnant. Justin makes less glaring mistakes but he tends to play it too safe at times and disappears on offense in some tough games this year like at Tulsa, Mississippi State and last night. We need a mixture of both to win down the stretch against the upcoming tough schedule. We are a team with only one outstanding player; we are not going to beat many good teams just with our starting five. We need to win with our depth.

(02-03-2019 09:58 AM)skyblade Wrote:  

(02-03-2019 09:37 AM)HoopsJunky Wrote:  

(02-03-2019 08:30 AM)skyblade Wrote:  

(02-03-2019 08:10 AM)Bcatbog Wrote:  

(02-02-2019 10:30 PM)HoopsJunky Wrote:  Broome?

you may want to get a new TV or get some glasses

I thought Brooke had a good game. I liked the way he got to the hoop.

Broome had a good first half. But the second half was bad for him. He was part of a TO that was credited to Cumberland, but was largely his fault. He took a three that was as good as a TO, where he brings ball up court, dribbles into 3 and takes it without ever passing the ball - a horrible shot for him that he can have any time and almost never makes. He also gave up a wide open 3 by cheating off his man to try to help on a guy who was guarded and one of our bigs already had help on the drive. He scored only 2 points (which where the FT's at the very end of the game). Broome is good when he is driving and scoring at the hoop (1st half) but bad if he is content to shoot 3's or isn't scoring (2nd half).

11 points on 4-9
0 Turnovers
3 assists

i will take that EVERY game from him

Mick highlighted Broome and Trevor Moore in his post game conference

UC doesn’t win if Cane AND Trevor both don’t step up

Not sure why Cane gets so much hate on here

I don't hate Broome. He's just not the star that many people want him to be. I see him very similar to how I saw Kyle Washington last year. When he's scoring by going to his strength it is good for the team. But when he isn't going to the hoop he is both an defensive liability (Mick said post-game that Broome didn't play as much 2nd half because of his D) and an offensive liability (takes bad shots and TO's). 1st half he went to the hoop and he was good, 2nd half he didn't and he was bad and deservedly spent much of it on the bench.

you critize Cane after a game he played great
double down

even after Mick highlights how well Cane played you
triple down

sounds like your expectations on Cane need to be reset

11 points, 3 Assists, 0 turnovers in 17 minutes

great take on Cane playing bad

Broome was excellent, Jenifer was the guy who struggled. He was wearing a full leg sleeve so maybe he's dinged up which didn't help. A couple of Broome's misses were very close finishes at the rim which didn't go down, but honestly were very strong plays at the hoop for a guy his size. Smu's a better ball club than i expected, particularly on the offensive end. I hadn't seen them play this year, but obviously they've had quite a bit of recent success since Larry Brown got things started. Good news is we won in spite of a spotty performance by Nas and Scott. They need those two to be stronger on the offensive glass getting some of those close misses by guys like Broome. Scott had 2 points and 3 rb's in 28 minutes, and his d was shaky. We played a lot stronger down the final stretch on the glass, and it finished the game for us. Memphis will be tough at home Thursday. We'll need a strong effort particularly defensively. Memphis has 65 in the second half yesterday. They have guys who can score, and our offense on the road can by shakey. Let's get #20.

(02-03-2019 09:37 AM)HoopsJunky Wrote:  

(02-03-2019 08:30 AM)skyblade Wrote:  

(02-03-2019 08:10 AM)Bcatbog Wrote:  

(02-02-2019 10:30 PM)HoopsJunky Wrote:  

(02-02-2019 09:54 PM)skyblade Wrote:  Scott, Broome and Brooks have all played bad tonight. Luckily JC doesn't have bad games anymore.

Broome?

you may want to get a new TV or get some glasses

I thought Brooke had a good game. I liked the way he got to the hoop.

Broome had a good first half. But the second half was bad for him. He was part of a TO that was credited to Cumberland, but was largely his fault. He took a three that was as good as a TO, where he brings ball up court, dribbles into 3 and takes it without ever passing the ball - a horrible shot for him that he can have any time and almost never makes. He also gave up a wide open 3 by cheating off his man to try to help on a guy who was guarded and one of our bigs already had help on the drive. He scored only 2 points (which where the FT's at the very end of the game). Broome is good when he is driving and scoring at the hoop (1st half) but bad if he is content to shoot 3's or isn't scoring (2nd half).

11 points on 4-9
0 Turnovers
3 assists

i will take that EVERY game from him

Mick highlighted Broome and Trevor Moore in his post game conference

UC doesn’t win if Cane AND Trevor both don’t step up

Not sure why Cane gets so much hate on here

Because he could be so much better. His early shot clock clanks from 3 after we get a defensive stop were essentially turnovers. Idk why he’s still shooting them when he’s so good going towards the basket.

SMU played a really good game.

(02-03-2019 09:58 AM)skyblade Wrote:  

(02-03-2019 09:37 AM)HoopsJunky Wrote:  

(02-03-2019 08:30 AM)skyblade Wrote:  

(02-03-2019 08:10 AM)Bcatbog Wrote:  

(02-02-2019 10:30 PM)HoopsJunky Wrote:  Broome?

you may want to get a new TV or get some glasses

I thought Brooke had a good game. I liked the way he got to the hoop.

Broome had a good first half. But the second half was bad for him. He was part of a TO that was credited to Cumberland, but was largely his fault. He took a three that was as good as a TO, where he brings ball up court, dribbles into 3 and takes it without ever passing the ball - a horrible shot for him that he can have any time and almost never makes. He also gave up a wide open 3 by cheating off his man to try to help on a guy who was guarded and one of our bigs already had help on the drive. He scored only 2 points (which where the FT's at the very end of the game). Broome is good when he is driving and scoring at the hoop (1st half) but bad if he is content to shoot 3's or isn't scoring (2nd half).

11 points on 4-9
0 Turnovers
3 assists

i will take that EVERY game from him

Mick highlighted Broome and Trevor Moore in his post game conference

UC doesn’t win if Cane AND Trevor both don’t step up

Not sure why Cane gets so much hate on here

I don't hate Broome. He's just not the star that many people want him to be. I see him very similar to how I saw Kyle Washington last year. When he's scoring by going to his strength it is good for the team. But when he isn't going to the hoop he is both an defensive liability (Mick said post-game that Broome didn't play as much 2nd half because of his D) and an offensive liability (takes bad shots and TO's). 1st half he went to the hoop and he was good, 2nd half he didn't and he was bad and deservedly spent much of it on the bench.

Fact is we lost the lead with Broome on the bench in second half. He only took one shot in second half when we had an eight point lead. Everyone knows he is not our star; but others had much more shaky play to criticize last night.