(01-30-2019 01:52 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  

(01-30-2019 01:42 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(01-30-2019 01:23 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(01-29-2019 04:01 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(01-29-2019 07:05 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Tigergreen,

I would not support any law that denied abortion in the extreme (and extremely rare) circumstances cited by the doc. But there are abortion mills that have much less integrity than that doc, and you and I both know that (or at least certainly should).

I’m supposed to have a baby tomorrow and I just changed my mind and don’t want to. Okay, sign here and we can take care of it.

That’s not what this doc is apparently doing, but the apparent fact that she isn’t does not mean that there aren’t plenty who do. So how do we shut down the abortion mills without infringing too greatly on the situations where termination really is the right answer?

Dude...c'mon. You know this will hardly if ever be happening. It's just more scare form the pro-life crowd.

And "plenty?"

Again, there is not a political solution to abortion.

Circle that square

That's enough to make me want to throw up

But guys, Tom is cool with that because it's not like it's going to happen that often.

Oh STFU, I haven't even read the details or watched the comments in context yet.

Bumping this since the conversation has turned to the events in VA, I didn't want it to get buried on the previous pages.

Everyone must watch.

“Resuscitated IF that’s what the mother and family desire..”

fk’in’ demonic.

(01-30-2019 03:35 PM)Kronke Wrote:  “Resuscitated IF that’s what the mother and family desire..”

fk’in’ demonic.

What the hell is wrong with these people? This is disgusting! Anyone that can't see that letting a baby die when it can live is EVIL shouldn't be allowed to live themselves.

(01-30-2019 01:57 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Oh STFU, I haven't even read the details or watched the comments in context yet.

OK Tom.... fair enough.

Read it, then be man enough to either come back and condemn the horror that this is, or support your fellow leftist.

(01-30-2019 04:05 PM)Oman Wrote:  

(01-30-2019 01:57 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Oh STFU, I haven't even read the details or watched the comments in context yet.

OK Tom.... fair enough.

Read it, then be man enough to either come back and condemn the horror that this is, or support your fellow leftist.

I certainly will...it just won't be today or maybe even tomorrow. I've got too many work commitments right now.

I'll have something by Friday.

That being said, I will remind you again that my basic position on abortion is none after 20 weeks (or so) unless the health of the mother/baby (as determined by certified medical personnel) is at stake or in the cases or rape or incest. Full stop.

(01-30-2019 04:29 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(01-30-2019 04:05 PM)Oman Wrote:  

(01-30-2019 01:57 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Oh STFU, I haven't even read the details or watched the comments in context yet.

OK Tom.... fair enough.

Read it, then be man enough to either come back and condemn the horror that this is, or support your fellow leftist.

I certainly will...it just won't be today or maybe even tomorrow. I've got too many work commitments right now.

I'll have something by Friday.

That being said, I will remind you again that my basic position on abortion is none after 20 weeks (or so) unless the health of the mother/baby (as determined by certified medical personnel) is at stake or in the cases or rape or incest. Full stop.

Don't think it takes 20 weeks to figure out if you have been raped or got knocked up by your pops. 99.9% of Americans agree the day after drug should be administered in those instances. That has always been the most lame excuse for abortion since its beginning. Fewer than one percent of all abortions are performed because of rape or incest. Pandora's Box has been opened.

Oops.. just noticed someone beat me to the Virginia governor / rep thing

Amazing all these crazy leftists are coming up with this pro-abortion stuff now. It's like they WANT an abortion case to go to the SCOTUS. And the case will probably finally find its way there once the new Justice that replaces RBG is on the court.

(01-30-2019 02:00 PM)Kronke Wrote:  Bumping this since the conversation has turned to the events in VA, I didn't want it to get buried on the previous pages.

Everyone must watch.

(01-30-2019 01:29 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(01-30-2019 12:02 PM)Jjoey52 Wrote:  I just read where Virginia is proposing similar legislation.

Interesting that they are willing to have taxpayers pay for this, also eliminating 2nd opinion before doing murder. They also wrote it would be easier for low income and blacks to access these. This tells me their is a racist tilt to this as the legislature is making it easier for blacks. Somewhere Margaret Sanger is smiling.

If you want a link look for it.


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Virginia Democrats Propose Bill Allowing Abortions Until Birth

“Where it’s obvious that a woman is about to give birth, that she has physical signs that she is about to give birth, would that still be a point at which she could request an abortion if she was so certified?” Gilbert asked.

“She’s dilating,” he continued, using the term for a woman’s cervix naturally opening to allow a baby to exit his mother during birth. “I’m asking if your bill allows that.”

“My bill would allow that, yes,” she said.

https://thefederalist.com/2019/01/30/vir...ons-birth/

Seems like the Gov of VA is almost suggesting you should be allowed to kill a baby after the baby is born.

“If a mother is in labor, I can tell you exactly what would happen,” he continued. “The infant would be delivered. The infant would be kept comfortable. The infant would be resuscitated if that’s what the mother and the family desired, and then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother.”

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/vi...fants-die/

Okay, TigerGreen, you going to kill it after it is born? I really hope you are not that barbaric.


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(01-30-2019 05:52 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(01-30-2019 02:00 PM)Kronke Wrote:  Bumping this since the conversation has turned to the events in VA, I didn't want it to get buried on the previous pages.

Everyone must watch.

Thank God, that was defeated, what the hell has this country become? Judgement Day is coming and it will be harsh and swift.


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to the VA bs...

again, I'm pro-choice...

this shite made me sick to my stomach before I hit the field this a.m....

that stupid biatch answering the initial posit - then finally yielding - only made me think, "wtf is going on in VA?"

religion and morality aside...at what point does a born child get the legal protections as a citizen of the US under the US Constitution?

(01-30-2019 08:24 PM)mptnstr@44 Wrote:  religion and morality aside...at what point does a born child get the legal protections as a citizen of the US under the US Constitution?

Let's hope VA dems never get to be the ones to answer that question

(01-30-2019 04:55 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  

(01-30-2019 04:29 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(01-30-2019 04:05 PM)Oman Wrote:  

(01-30-2019 01:57 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Oh STFU, I haven't even read the details or watched the comments in context yet.

OK Tom.... fair enough.

Read it, then be man enough to either come back and condemn the horror that this is, or support your fellow leftist.

I certainly will...it just won't be today or maybe even tomorrow. I've got too many work commitments right now.

I'll have something by Friday.

That being said, I will remind you again that my basic position on abortion is none after 20 weeks (or so) unless the health of the mother/baby (as determined by certified medical personnel) is at stake or in the cases or rape or incest. Full stop.

Don't think it takes 20 weeks to figure out if you have been raped or got knocked up by your pops. 99.9% of Americans agree the day after drug should be administered in those instances. That has always been the most lame excuse for abortion since its beginning. Fewer than one percent of all abortions are performed because of rape or incest. Pandora's Box has been opened.

Let's say a woman who "qualifies" under the rape/incest exception says no abortion for 8 months. Then in the 9th month changes her mind.

Is that allowable in your eyes RWT

(01-30-2019 08:29 PM)solohawks Wrote:  

(01-30-2019 08:24 PM)mptnstr@44 Wrote:  religion and morality aside...at what point does a born child get the legal protections as a citizen of the US under the US Constitution?

Let's hope VA dems never get to be the ones to answer that question

Whats insane is the bat sh*t crazy left is going to make the Supreme Court decide. Give them more rope.

(01-30-2019 09:02 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  

(01-30-2019 08:29 PM)solohawks Wrote:  

(01-30-2019 08:24 PM)mptnstr@44 Wrote:  religion and morality aside...at what point does a born child get the legal protections as a citizen of the US under the US Constitution?

Let's hope VA dems never get to be the ones to answer that question

Whats insane is the bat sh*t crazy left is going to make the Supreme Court decide. Give them more rope.

With the present composition of the court, they would probably toss it to the states, although that was before New York and Virginia sanction murder.


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That this is even being considered is heartbreaking. I think if we are brutally honest with ourselves, we would have to admit we are no better than Nazi Germany.

(01-30-2019 10:23 PM)memphistiger89 Wrote:  That this is even being considered is heartbreaking. I think if we are brutally honest with ourselves, we would have to admit we are no better than Nazi Germany.

Those people on the left are no better. But again they are in a circle jerk. 80% of aborted murdered babies come from left voters.