(01-16-2019 05:59 AM)P5PACSEC Wrote:  

(01-15-2019 11:42 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(01-15-2019 11:32 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(01-15-2019 11:29 PM)P5PACSEC Wrote:  [quote='Westhoff123' pid='15836026' dateline='1547584217']


Not to mention the chance to play in a conference with 5 texas schools (if you added uh and smu) would be too hard for UH to pass up. The geography alone will always make the big 12 preferable over the aac in almost any situation.


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I think Texas Tech gets out but I would love to watch TCU/UH, Baylor/UH and SMU/UH. Add Rice to the mix and we have a SWC.

lulz...and go where?

B1G...heck no
SEC...lulz no
Pac? don't need ya

MWC but you may as well join the AAC/B12 leftovers at that point

Pretty much, texas tech literally brings nothing to the table that UH doesn’t have and in many cases UH offers alot more than tech.


Responses by the P five that Cincy has heard for years that Texas Tech should get used to.

Top 10 basketball team with 15k seat arena according to latest rankings? Football drives the bus
Top 5 baseball team according to 2019 rankings? No one cares
60k seat football stadium? So what, Cincy had access to Paul Brown
Top 25 in bowl appearances? How many Orange, Sugar and Cotton have you won
Member of the Big 12? Used to be
Top 25 in Forbes football revenue? Not without Texas and Oklahoma inflating your media contract.

It appears we offer quite a bit. Not reallly I forgot to add, you don't move the needle.

(01-15-2019 11:26 PM)P5PACSEC Wrote:  

(01-15-2019 10:38 AM)BigHouston Wrote:  

(01-14-2019 12:00 PM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  

(01-14-2019 10:41 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(01-14-2019 10:37 AM)usffan Wrote:  https://mattsarzsports.blogspot.com/2019...ights.html

Fox is walking away from the Big XII title game because they can't justify the cost. Probably doesn't bode all that well for them bidding up the AAC media rights at all...

USFFan

PS - I suspect the Big East is going to be in for a big surprise the next time their TV rights come up (looking at you, UConn people who are eyeing a return)...

Seems like the PAC12 might be in store for a similar fate as well. I wonder if the bubble has burst on these CCGs. $20M for the BigXII CCG is ridiculous when you consider that is the same amount of money that the AAC receives for the entirety of its season in the current media rights deal.

The elite programs in both of these conferences, the Big 12 and the Pac-12, cannot be happy with this. You have to wonder how this affects the landscape in a few years.

I think Fox is only preparing themselves for when UT and OU bolt the Big12... If the Big12 does lose their two big boys that league will no longer be sitting $$$ pretty causing a nasty panic among the leftbehinds.

This is definitely a HUGE red flag if you're not UT or OU in the Big12 that's for sure.

Are Texas Tech and Oklahoma St in trouble? Does this help UH?

I fear Kansas might be in more trouble despite the hoopla from the "experts" on this board.

Oh don't think Kansas isn't aware of this. They're trying to correct the football problem right now. They see the example of UConn - and really don't want to go down that path

(01-16-2019 07:54 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  

(01-15-2019 11:26 PM)P5PACSEC Wrote:  

(01-15-2019 10:38 AM)BigHouston Wrote:  

(01-14-2019 12:00 PM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  

(01-14-2019 10:41 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  Seems like the PAC12 might be in store for a similar fate as well. I wonder if the bubble has burst on these CCGs. $20M for the BigXII CCG is ridiculous when you consider that is the same amount of money that the AAC receives for the entirety of its season in the current media rights deal.

The elite programs in both of these conferences, the Big 12 and the Pac-12, cannot be happy with this. You have to wonder how this affects the landscape in a few years.

I think Fox is only preparing themselves for when UT and OU bolt the Big12... If the Big12 does lose their two big boys that league will no longer be sitting $$$ pretty causing a nasty panic among the leftbehinds.

This is definitely a HUGE red flag if you're not UT or OU in the Big12 that's for sure.

Are Texas Tech and Oklahoma St in trouble? Does this help UH?

I fear Kansas might be in more trouble despite the hoopla from the "experts" on this board.

Oh don't think Kansas isn't aware of this. They're trying to correct the football problem right now. They see the example of UConn - and really don't want to go down that path

I don't think there is anything Kansas can really do to change their path. They currently look like a great fit for the Big 10, but if both Oklahoma and Texas end up there they are out of room.

(01-16-2019 06:46 AM)rosewater Wrote:  

(01-16-2019 05:59 AM)P5PACSEC Wrote:  

(01-15-2019 11:42 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(01-15-2019 11:32 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(01-15-2019 11:29 PM)P5PACSEC Wrote:  [quote='Westhoff123' pid='15836026' dateline='1547584217']


Not to mention the chance to play in a conference with 5 texas schools (if you added uh and smu) would be too hard for UH to pass up. The geography alone will always make the big 12 preferable over the aac in almost any situation.


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I think Texas Tech gets out but I would love to watch TCU/UH, Baylor/UH and SMU/UH. Add Rice to the mix and we have a SWC.

lulz...and go where?

B1G...heck no
SEC...lulz no
Pac? don't need ya

MWC but you may as well join the AAC/B12 leftovers at that point

Pretty much, texas tech literally brings nothing to the table that UH doesn’t have and in many cases UH offers alot more than tech.


Responses by the P five that Cincy has heard for years that Texas Tech should get used to.

Top 10 basketball team with 15k seat arena according to latest rankings? Football drives the bus
Top 5 baseball team according to 2019 rankings? No one cares
60k seat football stadium? So what, Cincy had access to Paul Brown
Top 25 in bowl appearances? How many Orange, Sugar and Cotton have you won
Member of the Big 12? Used to be
Top 25 in Forbes football revenue? Not without Texas and Oklahoma inflating your media contract.

It appears we offer quite a bit. Not reallly

Lol exactly! He had to really dig deep to find these. No one cares how many times you appear in a bowl if all you did was lose and to top it off they were minor at best bowls.

Never heard of a team getting an invite because of stadium size, otherwise every school would just build a big stadium.

Seriously baseball, really baseball? lmao!


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(01-16-2019 05:59 AM)P5PACSEC Wrote:  

(01-15-2019 11:42 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(01-15-2019 11:32 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(01-15-2019 11:29 PM)P5PACSEC Wrote:  

(01-15-2019 03:30 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  Not to mention the chance to play in a conference with 5 texas schools (if you added uh and smu) would be too hard for UH to pass up. The geography alone will always make the big 12 preferable over the aac in almost any situation.


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I think Texas Tech gets out but I would love to watch TCU/UH, Baylor/UH and SMU/UH. Add Rice to the mix and we have a SWC.

lulz...and go where?

B1G...heck no
SEC...lulz no
Pac? don't need ya

MWC but you may as well join the AAC/B12 leftovers at that point

Pretty much, texas tech literally brings nothing to the table that UH doesn’t have and in many cases UH offers alot more than tech.


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Top 10 basketball team with 15k seat arena according to latest rankings?
Top 5 baseball team according to 2019 rankings?
60k seat football stadium?
Top 25 in bowl appearances?
Member of the Big 12?
Top 25 in Forbes football revenue?

It appears we offer quite a bit.

And how much of this is due purely to being in a conference that pays alot of money/faces better competition? Lets see take that away and literally all you would offer is a decent sized basketball stadium and baseball stadium.

At least in UH case we have literally proved we could do more with less. Academics, football, baseball, and even basketball have all been more successful than tech.


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And without that money you don't have a decent size basketball or baseball stadium.

texas tech lmao

(01-16-2019 10:31 AM)Knights_of_UCF Wrote:  texas tech lmao

Find yourself somebody who looks at you like P5PACSEC looks at Texas Tech.

USFFan

The reason Texas Tech gets a life line and not Houston is because Texas needs a travel partner that it knows will never be better than Texas. Houston in the same conference as Texas could surpass Texas whereas Texas Tech has never surpassed Texas and likely never will.

(01-16-2019 11:01 AM)mustangxc Wrote:  The reason Texas Tech gets a life line and not Houston is because Texas needs a travel partner that it knows will never be better than Texas. Houston in the same conference as Texas could surpass Texas whereas Texas Tech has never surpassed Texas and likely never will.

LOL. Go back and look at the records when UT and UH shared the SWC.

(01-16-2019 11:35 AM)P5PACSEC Wrote:  

(01-16-2019 11:01 AM)mustangxc Wrote:  The reason Texas Tech gets a life line and not Houston is because Texas needs a travel partner that it knows will never be better than Texas. Houston in the same conference as Texas could surpass Texas whereas Texas Tech has never surpassed Texas and likely never will.

LOL. Go back and look at the records when UT and UH shared the SWC.

What's the SWC?

Very few teams have as good an all-time record against Texas as Houston does.

7-16-2 or 32%. Five of those wins came after the Big 12 was announced and UH was left for dead. Before the Big 12 was announced, it was 7-11-2 or 40%

Compare Tech at 17-51 or 25%.

(01-16-2019 01:37 PM)CougarRed Wrote:  Very few teams have as good an all-time record against Texas as Houston does.

7-16-2 or 32%. Five of those wins came after the Big 12 was announced and UH was left for dead. Before the Big 12 was announced, it was 7-11-2 or 40%

Compare Tech at 17-51 or 25%.

The Big 12 formation was announced on Feb 25th, 1994. UH only played UT 2 more times before the Southwest Conference died.
http://www.big12sports.com/ViewArticle.d...M_ID=10410

UH was 7-12-1 vs UT from 1976-1995. (20 years in the Southwest Conference)
Tech was 7-13 vs UT from 1976-1995

No doubt our record is horrendous vs UT after we joined the Big 12. UT has won 17 of the 23 meetings.

In fairness, UT has owned everyone in the State of Texas including Texas A&M. UT holds a 76-37-5 advantage over A&M.

Texas Tech brings lots of trees and open land to the table... I think that's worth something

(01-16-2019 09:41 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  Texas Tech brings lots of trees and open land to the table... I think that's worth something

Trees?

(01-16-2019 09:41 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  Texas Tech brings lots of trees and open land to the table... I think that's worth something

We have a P5 $$$ spot that Tilman desperately wants so he doesn't have to pay the entire contract for his buddy Dana.

It appears to me as an outsider that P6 fans hate actual P5 fans who reside in a P5 conference.

To get this thread back on topic, I hope the AAC gets a better TV/$$$ deal going forward.

(01-16-2019 11:19 PM)P5PACSEC Wrote:  

(01-16-2019 09:41 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  Texas Tech brings lots of trees and open land to the table... I think that's worth something

We have a P5 $$$ spot that Tilman desperately wants so he doesn't have to pay the entire contract for his buddy Dana.

It appears to me as an outsider that P6 fans hate actual P5 fans who reside in a P5 conference.

To get this thread back on topic, I hope the AAC gets a better TV/$$$ deal going forward.

So you're a TTU fan with a screen name that that doesn't mention the B12?

(01-16-2019 11:19 PM)P5PACSEC Wrote:  

(01-16-2019 09:41 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  Texas Tech brings lots of trees and open land to the table... I think that's worth something

It appears to me as an outsider that P6 fans hate actual P5 fans who reside in a P5 conference.

No, we just want you to accept the fact that this P5 label is strictly about money and nothing about how good of a program you are.

Seems some posters in this thread are confused. Fox was paying out 25 million to the Big 12 for their championship game not 20 million. The Big 12 countered with a 20 million offer and Fox refused. The 25 million was part of the payout to Big 12 schools ... a payout which looks like it will now be reduced.

(01-17-2019 11:40 AM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  Seems some posters in this thread are confused. Fox was paying out 25 million to the Big 12 for their championship game not 20 million. The Big 12 countered with a 20 million offer and Fox refused. The 25 million was part of the payout to Big 12 schools ... a payout which looks like it will now be reduced.

Im wondering if reducing that payout from 25 million to less than 20 virtually eliminates most of the "increase" the Big12 got for giving up the "pro rata" clause in the their contract. Seems like over paying for the game was kinda part of the deal that got the Big12 to eliminate that contractual benefit.