Western teams with a lot of wins equals more buts in seats at the CUSA tournament, in theory. But I suspect they'll be more WKU and Marshall fans than anyone else once UNT gets eliminated early just like last time.

(01-15-2019 02:42 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  

(01-15-2019 01:26 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  Looks OK to me based on two weeks of performance but who ends up at the top is going to come down to resiliency and consistency because nearly any team in the conference could beat any other any given night. I'm starting to worry about my Monarchs. We're somewhat fortunate not to be 0-4 right now, on the other hand we aren't too far from 4-0.

The top 1/4 and maybe a few middle teams I can agree with you on that.

No way Middle Tenn could though. Two of MTSUs 3 wins are against a DII and NAIA school and the other is against Charleston Southern (7-9) the others wins are against DII Lee's McRae (5-13) and NAIA Milligan (12-5).

No one wants to lose a coach especially after you stand by that coach for a solid decade just to finally achieve success. I don't know many schools that would stand by a coach that went 16-16, 17-15 and 18-14 for 10 years straight.

MTSU nor CUSA can stand around and wait for another coach to learn how to coach the long way around again. Ive always thought MTSUs choice was the lazy and cheap route.

Well I said "nearly" but looking at his list I know we shouldn't look past USM or UAB. Hell Charlotte gave the Herd a run for their money and we were lucky to leave FIU with the win. MT looks really bad this year, they'll probably beat ODU.

(01-15-2019 10:08 PM)NTTHOR Wrote:  actually, you narcissistic person, i'm not flaming you, don't care about you, and didn't know you had a hateful respect for odu...but odu>marshall...didn't realize a recent basketball result meant that one school was better than the other...thought we were supposed to look at the whole picture/season...but that doesn't help marshall in this case, so find the random game

edit: meant for goherds...didn't quote and don't want thunder thinking i was replying to him

I didn’t think you were.

(01-16-2019 04:33 AM)MUther Wrote:  Western teams with a lot of wins equals more buts in seats at the CUSA tournament, in theory. But I suspect they'll be more WKU and Marshall fans than anyone else once UNT gets eliminated early just like last time.

Teams still in the tourney will have more fans there than those eliminated? You dont say?

(01-16-2019 01:07 PM)Doots4Dawgs Wrote:  

(01-16-2019 04:33 AM)MUther Wrote:  Western teams with a lot of wins equals more buts in seats at the CUSA tournament, in theory. But I suspect they'll be more WKU and Marshall fans than anyone else once UNT gets eliminated early just like last time.

Teams still in the tourney will have more fans there than those eliminated? You dont say?

WKU and Marshall travel halfway across the country and have more fans than the teams from Texas.....you don't say?

(01-16-2019 03:37 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  

(01-16-2019 01:07 PM)Doots4Dawgs Wrote:  

(01-16-2019 04:33 AM)MUther Wrote:  Western teams with a lot of wins equals more buts in seats at the CUSA tournament, in theory. But I suspect they'll be more WKU and Marshall fans than anyone else once UNT gets eliminated early just like last time.

Teams still in the tourney will have more fans there than those eliminated? You dont say?

WKU and Marshall travel halfway across the country and have more fans than the teams from Texas.....you don't say?

UNT was eliminated early last year. If Tech or UNT make a deep run in the tournament then I can assure you we'll have as many fans there as WKU or Marshall, probably more. UNT attendance this year has been good.

I’m disappointed we never received official attendance figures for the tournament last season. They might be embarrassing and the league decided to hide them.

(01-16-2019 04:17 PM)deb025 Wrote:  

(01-16-2019 03:37 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  

(01-16-2019 01:07 PM)Doots4Dawgs Wrote:  

(01-16-2019 04:33 AM)MUther Wrote:  Western teams with a lot of wins equals more buts in seats at the CUSA tournament, in theory. But I suspect they'll be more WKU and Marshall fans than anyone else once UNT gets eliminated early just like last time.

Teams still in the tourney will have more fans there than those eliminated? You dont say?

WKU and Marshall travel halfway across the country and have more fans than the teams from Texas.....you don't say?

UNT was eliminated early last year. If Tech or UNT make a deep run in the tournament then I can assure you we'll have as many fans there as WKU or Marshall, probably more. UNT attendance this year has been good.

LOL... Yay. If North Texas makes it to the championship they MIGHT have as many fans as WKU/Marshall who had to travel thousands of miles to get there.

Just face it. This conference being so Texas centered is an absolute joke. Esp when the top/best programs are either in the East or used to be.

(01-16-2019 12:15 AM)herdfan129 Wrote:  

(01-15-2019 11:42 PM)goherd24herdfans Wrote:  

(01-15-2019 10:08 PM)NTTHOR Wrote:  actually, you narcissistic person, i'm not flaming you, don't care about you, and didn't know you had a hateful respect for odu...but odu>marshall...didn't realize a recent basketball result meant that one school was better than the other...thought we were supposed to look at the whole picture/season...but that doesn't help marshall in this case, so find the random game

edit: meant for goherds...didn't quote and don't want thunder thinking i was replying to him

I'm not sure you know what that word means, i don't know you or give a damn what you or anyone else on a message board thinks about me. I share my opinions and move on without a second of lost sleep. It's pretty well known about my ODU fued, if you don't, you haven't been paying much attention to the board at all. And we all played way different schedules and situations out of conference, now we are on the same playing field, and it'll shake out to find the best team. WKU and Marshall had by far, the toughest OOC schedules and i am a believer that, it toughens your team. And kind of ignorant to say a team that Marshall beat at home is better than the team that just beat them. Especially after another loss to another cusa team. One that we have in common inna couple days. See you soon turd.

PS. UNT is < 8-9 cusa teams. You'll see as the losses pile up on top of that cup cake schedule.

You must be forgetting they won the CBI (was it CIT, CTI, whatever it was) tournament. They think they are good lol

Of course they have the easiest schedule in the conference. The Texas favoritism continues in this conference.

All the top/best programs are in the East (or used to be in the East before the last realignment) but yet this conference wants to cater to the Texas schools. Mind blowing.

League headquarters are in texas I believe, big wigs want easy trips. Same reason they ignored the old tiebreaker and made up new rules to have the cusa title game hosting go to Rice in 2013, in front of 1800 rabid fans. But easy trip for the brass.

(01-16-2019 07:10 PM)goherd24herdfans Wrote:  

(01-16-2019 12:15 AM)herdfan129 Wrote:  

(01-15-2019 11:42 PM)goherd24herdfans Wrote:  

(01-15-2019 10:08 PM)NTTHOR Wrote:  actually, you narcissistic person, i'm not flaming you, don't care about you, and didn't know you had a hateful respect for odu...but odu>marshall...didn't realize a recent basketball result meant that one school was better than the other...thought we were supposed to look at the whole picture/season...but that doesn't help marshall in this case, so find the random game

edit: meant for goherds...didn't quote and don't want thunder thinking i was replying to him

I'm not sure you know what that word means, i don't know you or give a damn what you or anyone else on a message board thinks about me. I share my opinions and move on without a second of lost sleep. It's pretty well known about my ODU fued, if you don't, you haven't been paying much attention to the board at all. And we all played way different schedules and situations out of conference, now we are on the same playing field, and it'll shake out to find the best team. WKU and Marshall had by far, the toughest OOC schedules and i am a believer that, it toughens your team. And kind of ignorant to say a team that Marshall beat at home is better than the team that just beat them. Especially after another loss to another cusa team. One that we have in common inna couple days. See you soon turd.

PS. UNT is < 8-9 cusa teams. You'll see as the losses pile up on top of that cup cake schedule.

You must be forgetting they won the CBI (was it CIT, CTI, whatever it was) tournament. They think they are good lol

Of course they have the easiest schedule in the conference. The Texas favoritism continues in this conference.

All the top/best programs are in the East (or used to be in the East before the last realignment) but yet this conference wants to cater to the Texas schools. Mind blowing.

League headquarters are in texas I believe, big wigs want easy trips. Same reason they ignored the old tiebreaker and made up new rules to have the cusa title game hosting go to Rice in 2013, in front of 1800 rabid fans. But easy trip for the brass.

That was absolutely ridiculous, but it was what it was and we can’t change it. Rice beat our bag and sent us limping back to Huntington. Then we took it out on Maryland. I’m good with that.

(01-16-2019 07:24 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  

(01-16-2019 07:10 PM)goherd24herdfans Wrote:  

(01-16-2019 12:15 AM)herdfan129 Wrote:  

(01-15-2019 11:42 PM)goherd24herdfans Wrote:  

(01-15-2019 10:08 PM)NTTHOR Wrote:  actually, you narcissistic person, i'm not flaming you, don't care about you, and didn't know you had a hateful respect for odu...but odu>marshall...didn't realize a recent basketball result meant that one school was better than the other...thought we were supposed to look at the whole picture/season...but that doesn't help marshall in this case, so find the random game

edit: meant for goherds...didn't quote and don't want thunder thinking i was replying to him

I'm not sure you know what that word means, i don't know you or give a damn what you or anyone else on a message board thinks about me. I share my opinions and move on without a second of lost sleep. It's pretty well known about my ODU fued, if you don't, you haven't been paying much attention to the board at all. And we all played way different schedules and situations out of conference, now we are on the same playing field, and it'll shake out to find the best team. WKU and Marshall had by far, the toughest OOC schedules and i am a believer that, it toughens your team. And kind of ignorant to say a team that Marshall beat at home is better than the team that just beat them. Especially after another loss to another cusa team. One that we have in common inna couple days. See you soon turd.

PS. UNT is < 8-9 cusa teams. You'll see as the losses pile up on top of that cup cake schedule.

You must be forgetting they won the CBI (was it CIT, CTI, whatever it was) tournament. They think they are good lol

Of course they have the easiest schedule in the conference. The Texas favoritism continues in this conference.

All the top/best programs are in the East (or used to be in the East before the last realignment) but yet this conference wants to cater to the Texas schools. Mind blowing.

League headquarters are in texas I believe, big wigs want easy trips. Same reason they ignored the old tiebreaker and made up new rules to have the cusa title game hosting go to Rice in 2013, in front of 1800 rabid fans. But easy trip for the brass.

That was absolutely ridiculous, but it was what it was and we can’t change it. Rice beat our bag and sent us limping back to Huntington. Then we took it out on Maryland. I’m good with that.

Another curious thing. Look at the runner ups bowl games. Most years, much better bowl opponent as well. And yeah, that win was nice. I was there, freezing to watch it happen. Great time.

Last exciting bowl opponent we've had. Unfortunately, may be last p5 we see in a bowl for a long while being in cusa.

(01-16-2019 08:21 PM)goherd24herdfans Wrote:  

(01-16-2019 07:24 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  

(01-16-2019 07:10 PM)goherd24herdfans Wrote:  

(01-16-2019 12:15 AM)herdfan129 Wrote:  

(01-15-2019 11:42 PM)goherd24herdfans Wrote:  I'm not sure you know what that word means, i don't know you or give a damn what you or anyone else on a message board thinks about me. I share my opinions and move on without a second of lost sleep. It's pretty well known about my ODU fued, if you don't, you haven't been paying much attention to the board at all. And we all played way different schedules and situations out of conference, now we are on the same playing field, and it'll shake out to find the best team. WKU and Marshall had by far, the toughest OOC schedules and i am a believer that, it toughens your team. And kind of ignorant to say a team that Marshall beat at home is better than the team that just beat them. Especially after another loss to another cusa team. One that we have in common inna couple days. See you soon turd.

PS. UNT is < 8-9 cusa teams. You'll see as the losses pile up on top of that cup cake schedule.

You must be forgetting they won the CBI (was it CIT, CTI, whatever it was) tournament. They think they are good lol

Of course they have the easiest schedule in the conference. The Texas favoritism continues in this conference.

All the top/best programs are in the East (or used to be in the East before the last realignment) but yet this conference wants to cater to the Texas schools. Mind blowing.

League headquarters are in texas I believe, big wigs want easy trips. Same reason they ignored the old tiebreaker and made up new rules to have the cusa title game hosting go to Rice in 2013, in front of 1800 rabid fans. But easy trip for the brass.

That was absolutely ridiculous, but it was what it was and we can’t change it. Rice beat our bag and sent us limping back to Huntington. Then we took it out on Maryland. I’m good with that.

Another curious thing. Look at the runner ups bowl games. Most years, much better bowl opponent as well. And yeah, that win was nice. I was there, freezing to watch it happen. Great time.

Last exciting bowl opponent we've had. Unfortunately, may be last p5 we see in a bowl for a long while being in cusa.

We certainly did step in schmitt (getting blasted by Rice) and come out smelling like a rose (getting traded around to play Maryland) on that one.

That being said, I have been overall pleased with 3 of our last 5 bowl opponents. Maryland (P5), CSU (storied program), and USF (recent success). Not ideal, but better than what we could’ve gotten. And we weren’t exactly burning up the pavement.

Marshall has played the toughest schedule, but lopsided losses are not that impressive. Losses to Maryland by 37, Øhio by 17, A&M by 24 and Virginia by 36.


NT - Last second questionable basket made by UTSA not enough to drop team down
UTSA - Very good team and record since Jackson got healthy
Marshall - Three conference wins by 5 total points
WKU - Two tough away loses to Marshall & ODU
ODU - Tough early league schedule beat WKU loss Marshall, split in FLa.
USM - Home victory over UAB
La Tech - Started conference shaky, won two straight
UAB - Two straight away conference loses
FAU - Lost to charlotte at home in last game
FIU - Lost by 1 to ODU at home
Charlotte - Quickly improving
Rice - When hitting the 3, very dangerous
UTEP - Already lost twice to UTSA, tough in El Paso
MTSU - What the heck happened

(01-16-2019 10:06 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(01-15-2019 02:42 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  

(01-15-2019 01:26 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  Looks OK to me based on two weeks of performance but who ends up at the top is going to come down to resiliency and consistency because nearly any team in the conference could beat any other any given night. I'm starting to worry about my Monarchs. We're somewhat fortunate not to be 0-4 right now, on the other hand we aren't too far from 4-0.

The top 1/4 and maybe a few middle teams I can agree with you on that.

No way Middle Tenn could though. Two of MTSUs 3 wins are against a DII and NAIA school and the other is against Charleston Southern (7-9) the others wins are against DII Lee's McRae (5-13) and NAIA Milligan (12-5).

No one wants to lose a coach especially after you stand by that coach for a solid decade just to finally achieve success. I don't know many schools that would stand by a coach that went 16-16, 17-15 and 18-14 for 10 years straight.

MTSU nor CUSA can stand around and wait for another coach to learn how to coach the long way around again. Ive always thought MTSUs choice was the lazy and cheap route.

Well I said "nearly" but looking at his list I know we shouldn't look past USM or UAB. Hell Charlotte gave the Herd a run for their money and we were lucky to leave FIU with the win. MT looks really bad this year, they'll probably beat ODU.

ODU can name the score this year against MT. Hell, the same can be said for all teams. We are THAT BAD.

(01-16-2019 09:57 PM)Grandgreen Wrote:  Marshall has played the toughest schedule, but lopsided losses are not that impressive. Losses to Maryland by 37, Øhio by 17, A&M by 24 and Virginia by 36.


NT - Last second questionable basket made by UTSA not enough to drop team down
UTSA - Very good team and record since Jackson got healthy
Marshall - Three conference wins by 5 total points
WKU - Two tough away loses to Marshall & ODU
ODU - Tough early league schedule beat WKU loss Marshall, split in FLa.
USM - Home victory over UAB
La Tech - Started conference shaky, won two straight
UAB - Two straight away conference loses
FAU - Lost to charlotte at home in last game
FIU - Lost by 1 to ODU at home
Charlotte - Quickly improving
Rice - When hitting the 3, very dangerous
UTEP - Already lost twice to UTSA, tough in El Paso
MTSU - What the heck happened

Agreed, but UVA and Maryland are REALLY good basketball teams. Agree with you on A&M and Ohio.

(01-16-2019 04:26 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  

(01-16-2019 04:17 PM)deb025 Wrote:  

(01-16-2019 03:37 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  

(01-16-2019 01:07 PM)Doots4Dawgs Wrote:  

(01-16-2019 04:33 AM)MUther Wrote:  Western teams with a lot of wins equals more buts in seats at the CUSA tournament, in theory. But I suspect they'll be more WKU and Marshall fans than anyone else once UNT gets eliminated early just like last time.

Teams still in the tourney will have more fans there than those eliminated? You dont say?

WKU and Marshall travel halfway across the country and have more fans than the teams from Texas.....you don't say?

UNT was eliminated early last year. If Tech or UNT make a deep run in the tournament then I can assure you we'll have as many fans there as WKU or Marshall, probably more. UNT attendance this year has been good.

LOL... Yay. If North Texas makes it to the championship they MIGHT have as many fans as WKU/Marshall who had to travel thousands of miles to get there.

Just face it. This conference being so Texas centered is an absolute joke. Esp when the top/best programs are either in the East or used to be.

hate to tell ya, but bowling green, ky to frisco is 722 miles...huntington, wv to frisco is 997...

not exactly thousands of miles...yes, i understand that many fans don't live in those cities, but hundreds of fans also don't live thousands of miles away from frisco that attended the conference tourney

(01-16-2019 10:06 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  

(01-16-2019 09:57 PM)Grandgreen Wrote:  Marshall has played the toughest schedule, but lopsided losses are not that impressive. Losses to Maryland by 37, Øhio by 17, A&M by 24 and Virginia by 36.


NT - Last second questionable basket made by UTSA not enough to drop team down
UTSA - Very good team and record since Jackson got healthy
Marshall - Three conference wins by 5 total points
WKU - Two tough away loses to Marshall & ODU
ODU - Tough early league schedule beat WKU loss Marshall, split in FLa.
USM - Home victory over UAB
La Tech - Started conference shaky, won two straight
UAB - Two straight away conference loses
FAU - Lost to charlotte at home in last game
FIU - Lost by 1 to ODU at home
Charlotte - Quickly improving
Rice - When hitting the 3, very dangerous
UTEP - Already lost twice to UTSA, tough in El Paso
MTSU - What the heck happened

Agreed, but UVA and Maryland are REALLY good basketball teams. Agree with you on A&M and Ohio.

We are also not the same team now that Kinsey is starting, no more Bennett in the lineup, and DD doesn't care about OOC (I hate this about him but it is what it is.)

Why are we under USM if we won H2H and have a better record?

(01-15-2019 11:42 PM)goherd24herdfans Wrote:  

(01-15-2019 10:08 PM)NTTHOR Wrote:  actually, you narcissistic person, i'm not flaming you, don't care about you, and didn't know you had a hateful respect for odu...but odu>marshall...didn't realize a recent basketball result meant that one school was better than the other...thought we were supposed to look at the whole picture/season...but that doesn't help marshall in this case, so find the random game

edit: meant for goherds...didn't quote and don't want thunder thinking i was replying to him

I'm not sure you know what that word means, i don't know you or give a damn what you or anyone else on a message board thinks about me. I share my opinions and move on without a second of lost sleep. It's pretty well known about my ODU fued, if you don't, you haven't been paying much attention to the board at all. And we all played way different schedules and situations out of conference, now we are on the same playing field, and it'll shake out to find the best team. WKU and Marshall had by far, the toughest OOC schedules and i am a believer that, it toughens your team. And kind of ignorant to say a team that Marshall beat at home is better than the team that just beat them. Especially after another loss to another cusa team. One that we have in common inna couple days. See you soon turd.

PS. UNT is < 8-9 cusa teams. You'll see as the losses pile up on top of that cup cake schedule.

i know exactly what it means and you fit it to a T...self importance, need for admiration...fits ya perfectly as a fan of marshall...

(01-16-2019 10:13 PM)NTTHOR Wrote:  

(01-16-2019 04:26 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  

(01-16-2019 04:17 PM)deb025 Wrote:  

(01-16-2019 03:37 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  

(01-16-2019 01:07 PM)Doots4Dawgs Wrote:  Teams still in the tourney will have more fans there than those eliminated? You dont say?

WKU and Marshall travel halfway across the country and have more fans than the teams from Texas.....you don't say?

UNT was eliminated early last year. If Tech or UNT make a deep run in the tournament then I can assure you we'll have as many fans there as WKU or Marshall, probably more. UNT attendance this year has been good.

LOL... Yay. If North Texas makes it to the championship they MIGHT have as many fans as WKU/Marshall who had to travel thousands of miles to get there.

Just face it. This conference being so Texas centered is an absolute joke. Esp when the top/best programs are either in the East or used to be.

hate to tell ya, but bowling green, ky to frisco is 722 miles...huntington, wv to frisco is 997...

not exactly thousands of miles...yes, i understand that many fans don't live in those cities, but thousands of fans also don't live thousands of miles away from frisco that attended the conference tourney

I’m hearing you Thor. I just think that a city with a medium sized arena with up to date media capabilities would be awesome. 5-6K arena if that in, say, Little Rock, Huntsville, Biloxi, Pensacola, Jackson (if there is an arena there).