(12-10-2018 03:35 PM)Tigx Wrote:  Micheal Smith and John Ourand are great follows for sports media rights deals. The Sports Business Journal article today. https://twitter.com/matthewjarecki/statu...1313393664

"Emerging football power Central Florida, winner of 25 straight games, is the highest-profile AAC school and the most likely target by another league. AAC administrators want to make sure it isn’t lured away by another conference, which could be a draw for UCF after missing out on the College Football Playoff during both of its undefeated seasons in the AAC.

Memphis, Cincinnati, Houston and South Florida are the other candidates most likely to be targeted by the power five, according to several well-placed sources.
. . .
Part of the negotiations have explored the possibility of top AAC schools making more revenue than others, which is drastically different than the conference’s current deal in terms of revenue distribution."

You have to wonder if this isn't a proactive measure so that after the expiration of the Big 12 grant of rights, and the likely defections there, those remaining B12 schools will be absorbed into the AAC and not the other way around.

(12-10-2018 03:55 PM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  

(12-10-2018 03:35 PM)Tigx Wrote:  Micheal Smith and John Ourand are great follows for sports media rights deals. The Sports Business Journal article today. https://twitter.com/matthewjarecki/statu...1313393664

"Emerging football power Central Florida, winner of 25 straight games, is the highest-profile AAC school and the most likely target by another league. AAC administrators want to make sure it isn’t lured away by another conference, which could be a draw for UCF after missing out on the College Football Playoff during both of its undefeated seasons in the AAC.

Memphis, Cincinnati, Houston and South Florida are the other candidates most likely to be targeted by the power five, according to several well-placed sources.
. . .
Part of the negotiations have explored the possibility of top AAC schools making more revenue than others, which is drastically different than the conference’s current deal in terms of revenue distribution."

You have to wonder if this isn't a proactive measure so that after the expiration of the Big 12 grant of rights, and the likely defections there, those remaining B12 schools will be absorbed into the AAC and not the other way around.

I think your theory is spot on. If Texas goes independent or Big 10 or ACC by 2025, Oklahoma also leaves, and the Big 12 is done. Aresco wants to do the deal with ESPN for the exposure. ESPN already has the LHN, and the ACC Network starts next year.

Lot of moving parts, but with a new ESPN media deal with a GOR, the AAC is poised to pick up the pieces of the old Big 12.

No no no

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I would be fine with it as long as all teams sign and it isn't for longer than 5 years.

(12-10-2018 02:46 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(12-10-2018 02:14 PM)tiger ron Wrote:  I would prefer this conference to stick together and work towards a P6 status.

That's not happening, imo. The P5 is not going to share. They'll break off before they have to do that.

"They" being the P5 don't really have a say in it. It is ESPN or NBC or CBS or Playstation or Facebook or Amazon.com's say as to weather or not we get to the $10MM per team per year mark.

(12-10-2018 06:36 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  I would be fine with it as long as all teams sign and it isn't for longer than 5 years.

So that it expires about the same time the Big 12 Grant of Rights does? Doubt that's the offer.

(12-10-2018 07:13 PM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  

(12-10-2018 06:36 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  I would be fine with it as long as all teams sign and it isn't for longer than 5 years.

So that it expires about the same time the Big 12 Grant of Rights does? Doubt that's the offer.

5 years seems reasonable, besides, I wouldn't sign a TV deal longer than that anyway. We stand a good chance to grow past the $10MM mark by then, and we would leave too much money on the table in years 6-10.

No no no

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If the money is right, sign it and invest every last penny of the increase in the football program.

A buyout can always be negotiated if we ever get called up to the big leagues. Sounds like FedEx was more than willing to drop some big $$ to help us make the move last time around.
We could certainly use the extra media income to grow our program and become even more attractive the next round of expansion.

What's most important is not being left out of the next theoretical indefinite expansion. So don't sign it unless the others being offered sign it too. If one doesn't sign it, then we shouldn't. We already have put on the table the willingness to accept a lesser share of a P5 revenue distribution to get in, so it's not the money initially from the rev distribution, it is the prestige and the consequential donations and revenue generation from that prestige. And an increase in revenue without increasing prestige from the AAC shouldn't be enough to prevent us from chasing the prestige and security of a P5. Locking us into the 6th conference jeopardizes the ripple potential revenue and concomitant campus and city improvements, possibly permanently if the next expansion is the last one in this generation of the sport.

I wanna read the fine print before I make a decision.

We need our own hardcore agent tough guy to represent our best interests.

(12-10-2018 08:52 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  We need our own hardcore agent tough guy to represent put best interests.

Is that Attorney we had around when Calipari left still with the school? Sherry something...

(12-10-2018 09:02 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  

(12-10-2018 08:52 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  We need our own hardcore agent tough guy to represent put best interests.

Is that Attorney we had around when Calipari left still with the school? Sherry something...

Federal judge

(12-10-2018 11:20 AM)Tigx Wrote:  Short term GOR for AAC members until 2024 makes some sense, nothing is likely to happen before then. Houston or UCF or Cincy would be foolish to sign anything longer.

So would we !!!!

(12-10-2018 07:18 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  

(12-10-2018 07:13 PM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  

(12-10-2018 06:36 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  I would be fine with it as long as all teams sign and it isn't for longer than 5 years.

So that it expires about the same time the Big 12 Grant of Rights does? Doubt that's the offer.

5 years seems reasonable, besides, I wouldn't sign a TV deal longer than that anyway. We stand a good chance to grow past the $10MM mark by then, and we would leave too much money on the table in years 6-10.

But as far as I can see an AAC five-year grant of rights doesn't serve much purpose when it comes to keeping the conference together once the Big 12 breaks up, if it does, after the expiration of its own Grant of Rights. For the AAC Grant rights to make sense in my opinion you would have to extend beyond the expiration of the Big 12 grant of rights.

(12-10-2018 08:52 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  We need our own hardcore agent tough guy to represent our best interests.

(12-11-2018 07:43 AM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  

(12-10-2018 07:18 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  

(12-10-2018 07:13 PM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  

(12-10-2018 06:36 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  I would be fine with it as long as all teams sign and it isn't for longer than 5 years.

So that it expires about the same time the Big 12 Grant of Rights does? Doubt that's the offer.

5 years seems reasonable, besides, I wouldn't sign a TV deal longer than that anyway. We stand a good chance to grow past the $10MM mark by then, and we would leave too much money on the table in years 6-10.

But as far as I can see an AAC five-year grant of rights doesn't serve much purpose when it comes to keeping the conference together once the Big 12 breaks up, if it does, after the expiration of its own Grant of Rights. For the AAC Grant rights to make sense in my opinion you would have to extend beyond the expiration of the Big 12 grant of rights.

No, you are right. The only thing I can say is, it might be enough to outlast the BigXII GOR by a couple years.... so maybe a 7 year GOR?

If ESPN wants this, it is in their best interest not the AAC’s. Rule 101 of negotiation.

(12-11-2018 09:59 AM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  

(12-11-2018 07:43 AM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  

(12-10-2018 07:18 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  

(12-10-2018 07:13 PM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  

(12-10-2018 06:36 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  I would be fine with it as long as all teams sign and it isn't for longer than 5 years.

So that it expires about the same time the Big 12 Grant of Rights does? Doubt that's the offer.

5 years seems reasonable, besides, I wouldn't sign a TV deal longer than that anyway. We stand a good chance to grow past the $10MM mark by then, and we would leave too much money on the table in years 6-10.

But as far as I can see an AAC five-year grant of rights doesn't serve much purpose when it comes to keeping the conference together once the Big 12 breaks up, if it does, after the expiration of its own Grant of Rights. For the AAC Grant rights to make sense in my opinion you would have to extend beyond the expiration of the Big 12 grant of rights.

No, you are right. The only thing I can say is, it might be enough to outlast the BigXII GOR by a couple years.... so maybe a 7 year GOR?

Yeah, I don't see a media partner/negotiator seeing any value offering a premium for a period (such as the 5 being theorized elsewhere) in which there is no or minimal threat of losing top programs (ie if the other conferences expire in X years, the threat for the media partner is a shift in the AAC once the expiration or the negotiations for the extension with those other conferences occurs).

So it is the 5th, 6th, 7th year (in your scenario) that media partners are most worried about losing their best content. If the AAC deal is 5 years, maybe they can sucker the media partner into a premium along the lines being discussed on the grounds of "you never knooow!" I'm all for a 5 year deal that pays us a premium. I just don't see a competent negotiator offering it to us, unless they have real concerns that shakeups might happen prior to other conferences' media expirations.