(10-11-2018 06:31 PM)va-eagle Wrote:  

(10-11-2018 04:26 PM)ghostofclt! Wrote:  clt says Charlotte will be better this year.

Well, I would hope so. Hard to be worse.

True......and yet, what is that all time Charlotte vs. USM record in mens basketball again?

(10-12-2018 09:23 AM)PSCNiner Wrote:  

(10-11-2018 06:31 PM)va-eagle Wrote:  

(10-11-2018 04:26 PM)ghostofclt! Wrote:  clt says Charlotte will be better this year.

Well, I would hope so. Hard to be worse.

True......and yet, what is that all time Charlotte vs. USM record in mens basketball again?

Honestly, Southern Miss has absolutely dominated this series, with the exception being the games that Charlotte has won.

clt says Charlotte plans to play defense this season.

(10-12-2018 09:23 AM)PSCNiner Wrote:  

(10-11-2018 06:31 PM)va-eagle Wrote:  

(10-11-2018 04:26 PM)ghostofclt! Wrote:  clt says Charlotte will be better this year.

Well, I would hope so. Hard to be worse.

True......and yet, what is that all time Charlotte vs. USM record in mens basketball again?

haha, I just like messing with clt. I don't know what the record is, but have no doubt it likely has a major tilt to Charlotte in the W column.

(10-12-2018 11:17 AM)va-eagle Wrote:  

(10-12-2018 09:23 AM)PSCNiner Wrote:  

(10-11-2018 06:31 PM)va-eagle Wrote:  

(10-11-2018 04:26 PM)ghostofclt! Wrote:  clt says Charlotte will be better this year.

Well, I would hope so. Hard to be worse.

True......and yet, what is that all time Charlotte vs. USM record in mens basketball again?

haha, I just like messing with clt. I don't know what the record is, but have no doubt it likely has a major tilt to Charlotte in the W column.

clt forgot to respond to your comment.

It was accurate.

I apologize as a Charlotte fan. I never could have imagined we'd ever be this bad at hoops. I knew we'd struggle at football but we've really been worse than I ever imagined at both. Hopefully we are turning it around. Realistically we should have been a solid basketball add. We were not.

(10-11-2018 08:47 AM)usm99 Wrote:  

(10-11-2018 07:02 AM)odu09 Wrote:  2. The top of the conference can hang with anyone. We need the bottom of the conference to not be in the bottom 300.

Agreed and it's not directed at anyone disrespectfully but here's how CUSA finished RPI wise last season:

351 - as bad as you can get
322 - Rice
321 - Charlotte
290 - FIU
289 - UTEP
269 - FAU
204 - USM
192 - La Tech
188 - UNT
184 - UTSA
150 - UAB
78 - Marshall
74 - ODU
32 - WKU
30 - MTSU

I realize that realistically we aren't going to have all 14 teams better than 200 but if can keep the bottom 4 closer to 250 instead of 300+ along with having at least 3 in the top 50 we should be able to get that 2nd bid with the new end of the season scheduling.

200 or 300 in the end it doesn't matter because once you get past that 150 or so....

any loss or any win is looked on negativity


So if those 5 school in the 269 and lower range move up 30 to 50 spots...it does nothing for the conference.

The way you make a strong conference is from the top down, not the bottom up. You do that by having 1/4 in the top 75 and a couple of those in the top 25 ....the top is close to getting there.

Then you need a very strong middle that's in the 76 to 100 range at least 50% of the other 10 teams thats not in the top 75. Do that and the bottom gets pulled up just by playing and losing to those above them.

At worse this conference needs half in the top 100 and it's the middle thats pulling that down and needs to show improvement...no one cares about a bottom if the top and middle are holding their own.

(10-11-2018 06:30 PM)va-eagle Wrote:  

(10-11-2018 03:54 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  I think WKU can be a Top 25 type of team. Marshall should be really good again this year as well. I think North Texas and UTSA will surprise some people. ODU has been good last few years and I expect that to continue.

I am really counting on UTEP and Charlotte to get back to where they used to be. They do that while the others maintain and we are definitely a 2 bid conference.

I think USM will finish top 5 of CUSA. I'm normally a MBB downer, but I think we've got some pieces now and it'll show this season.

I think USM will be better again this year but I think you are still a year away from playing like you did against teams with Eustachy as HC.

I see this USM team like the 2015 Marshall team, somewhere between 16-18 wins and more close games.

The thing is USMs nonconference schedule does them no good, you have 4 games that you could actually get respect for in someway. Those games are against SMU, Wichita State, Kansas State and South Dakota, all on the road. The rest of the schedule is mostly garbage with 4 non DI games in Southwest Baptist, William Carry, Rust and Millsaps. Then its Troy, Jacksonville State or Western Carolina and South Alabama. Truth is if USM doesn't win 8-10 of those games including at least 1 win over the 1st 4, I feel the wheels could come off easy then.

(10-12-2018 11:17 AM)ghostofclt! Wrote:  clt says Charlotte plans to play defense this season.

And just like a Tony Bennett team, play a 1st to 50 wins type of offense. See where that got them in the NCAAs.

(10-14-2018 08:29 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  

(10-12-2018 11:17 AM)ghostofclt! Wrote:  clt says Charlotte plans to play defense this season.

And just like a Tony Bennett team, play a 1st to 50 wins type of offense. See where that got them in the NCAAs.

clt will settle for the overall #1 seed in the tourney.

(10-15-2018 06:38 AM)ghostofclt! Wrote:  clt will settle for the overall #1 seed in the tourney.

Where did that get Virginia last year, absolutely no where but a flight back to Charlottesville VA early.

Also since Charlotte will not get the high 4 star players like the Cavaliers do, just look at ODU. Jeff Jones has had a solid team on the floor since he got in CUSA but the early 80s mentality that you can win on defense alone gets you beat every time before it counts.

The 1st to 50 hasn't worked for years.

I haven't seen an analysis of the college game scoring but the avg score in the NBA in 2003 was 77.2 points per game, in 2010 it was 102.1 and last year it was 121.1. In 2003 the avg NBA team took 3.7 3s a game, 2010 18.3 and last year 34.7.

The point is if you don't have at least 3 to 4 guys on the court that can shoot the ball then you are going to be left in the rear of the bus.

The game has changed that much in 15 years. College coaches were very resistant to change the game but you can see that trend starting to change now. The game is going back to what it was in the early days of organized basketball. A game of positionless players instead of each player has a role.

(10-15-2018 11:44 AM)HerdZoned Wrote:  

(10-15-2018 06:38 AM)ghostofclt! Wrote:  clt will settle for the overall #1 seed in the tourney.

Where did that get Virginia last year, absolutely no where but a flight back to Charlottesville VA early.

Also since Charlotte will not get the high 4 star players like the Cavaliers do, just look at ODU. Jeff Jones has had a solid team on the floor since he got in CUSA but the early 80s mentality that you can win on defense alone gets you beat every time before it counts.

The 1st to 50 hasn't worked for years.

I haven't seen an analysis of the college game scoring but the avg score in the NBA in 2003 was 77.2 points per game, in 2010 it was 102.1 and last year it was 121.1. In 2003 the avg NBA team took 3.7 3s a game, 2010 18.3 and last year 34.7.

The point is if you don't have at least 3 to 4 guys on the court that can shoot the ball then you are going to be left in the rear of the bus.

The game has changed that much in 15 years. College coaches were very resistant to change the game but you can see that trend starting to change now. The game is going back to what it was in the early days of organized basketball. A game of positionless players instead of each player has a role.

clt says we will be fine. We know bball at Charlotte.

(10-15-2018 12:32 PM)ghostofclt! Wrote:  clt says we will be fine. We know bball at Charlotte.

At one time maybe, but not since Bobby Lutz was there. Charlotte has won 15 or more games only 2 times since Lutz was fired in 2010, both under Allan Major 2012-13 21 wins, 1st round NIT, and 2013-14 17 wins. In that time frame Charlotte doesn't have a winning record in conference play.

(10-15-2018 01:04 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  

(10-15-2018 12:32 PM)ghostofclt! Wrote:  clt says we will be fine. We know bball at Charlotte.

At one time maybe, but not since Bobby Lutz was there. Charlotte has won 15 or more games only 2 times since Lutz was fired in 2010, both under Allan Major 2012-13 21 wins, 1st round NIT, and 2013-14 17 wins. In that time frame Charlotte doesn't have a winning record in conference play.

I think clt is mired in facetious hyperbole.

(10-15-2018 05:18 PM)Franko Wrote:  

(10-15-2018 01:04 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  

(10-15-2018 12:32 PM)ghostofclt! Wrote:  clt says we will be fine. We know bball at Charlotte.

At one time maybe, but not since Bobby Lutz was there. Charlotte has won 15 or more games only 2 times since Lutz was fired in 2010, both under Allan Major 2012-13 21 wins, 1st round NIT, and 2013-14 17 wins. In that time frame Charlotte doesn't have a winning record in conference play.

I think clt is mired in facetious hyperbole.

Charlotte was a power in Cusa 1.0 when the league had Louisville, Cincinnati, Marquette, and Memphis.They won the reg season conference championship and/or the tournament several times. They went to the Ncaa tourney almost every year. I take the reference to "knowing basketball" back to that history.

No reason for Charlotte or UTEP to be as bad as they’ve been. With new coaches hopefully both will be competing in the top half of the conference soon. With UTSA and UNT emerging and USM seeming to come back from the dead I feel the conference will come into its own soon.

(10-15-2018 05:18 PM)Franko Wrote:  I think clt is mired in facetious hyperbole.

Actually he's just annoying. He's like the 11 year old trying to get in the teen party down the street. He does nothing but talk in circles and the reason I have him on ignore and rarely look at what he has to say.

Quote:Charlotte was a power in Cusa 1.0 when the league had Louisville, Cincinnati, Marquette, and Memphis.They won the reg season conference championship and/or the tournament several times. They went to the Ncaa tourney almost every year. I take the reference to "knowing basketball" back to that history.

Charlotte had decent basketball in CUSA1.0. This is your finishes in CUSA

95 1
96 3
97 1 (White)
98 2 (American)
99 T3 (American)
00 T2 (American)
01 4
02 T6
03 T1
04 T2

Charlotte made the NCAAs 8 times and the NIT the other 2 years while in CUSA. But that was also a lifetime ago with the way the committee looked at schools. With those finishes today you only make 1 NCAA guaranteed. The other would depend on where you actually ended up in a tie breaker.

(10-15-2018 06:51 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  No reason for Charlotte or UTEP to be as bad as they’ve been. With new coaches hopefully both will be competing in the top half of the conference soon. With UTSA and UNT emerging and USM seeming to come back from the dead I feel the conference will come into its own soon.

It's a lot harder to get back some times than that what people think. It takes more than just changing head coaches.

You have to hire a coach that can do the basic 3 things to be successful as a HC at the collegiate level. 1)Must know how to recruit the right players in his system. 2)Must know how to develop players, you have to be able to see growth instead of seeing the same player as a freshman, play the same as a junior. 3)Must know how to connect with the fans and bring those back that have either just left or got disengaged with the program.

This is why I think New Mexico St might be a nice addition to CUSA.

A long D1 tradition and consistently in the tournament.

Add them in with Louisiana and you have a stronger hoops conference that is more likely to produce an at-large bid.

(10-15-2018 05:38 PM)cotton1991 Wrote:  

(10-15-2018 05:18 PM)Franko Wrote:  

(10-15-2018 01:04 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  

(10-15-2018 12:32 PM)ghostofclt! Wrote:  clt says we will be fine. We know bball at Charlotte.

At one time maybe, but not since Bobby Lutz was there. Charlotte has won 15 or more games only 2 times since Lutz was fired in 2010, both under Allan Major 2012-13 21 wins, 1st round NIT, and 2013-14 17 wins. In that time frame Charlotte doesn't have a winning record in conference play.

I think clt is mired in facetious hyperbole.

Charlotte was a power in Cusa 1.0 when the league had Louisville, Cincinnati, Marquette, and Memphis.They won the reg season conference championship and/or the tournament several times. They went to the Ncaa tourney almost every year. I take the reference to "knowing basketball" back to that history.

clt cannot dap you. What gives?

(10-15-2018 08:20 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  

(10-15-2018 05:18 PM)Franko Wrote:  I think clt is mired in facetious hyperbole.

Actually he's just annoying. He's like the 11 year old trying to get in the teen party down the street. He does nothing but talk in circles and the reason I have him on ignore and rarely look at what he has to say.

Quote:Charlotte was a power in Cusa 1.0 when the league had Louisville, Cincinnati, Marquette, and Memphis.They won the reg season conference championship and/or the tournament several times. They went to the Ncaa tourney almost every year. I take the reference to "knowing basketball" back to that history.

Charlotte had decent basketball in CUSA1.0. This is your finishes in CUSA

95 1
96 3
97 1 (White)
98 2 (American)
99 T3 (American)
00 T2 (American)
01 4
02 T6
03 T1
04 T2

Charlotte made the NCAAs 8 times and the NIT the other 2 years while in CUSA. But that was also a lifetime ago with the way the committee looked at schools. With those finishes today you only make 1 NCAA guaranteed. The other would depend on where you actually ended up in a tie breaker.

(10-15-2018 06:51 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  No reason for Charlotte or UTEP to be as bad as they’ve been. With new coaches hopefully both will be competing in the top half of the conference soon. With UTSA and UNT emerging and USM seeming to come back from the dead I feel the conference will come into its own soon.

It's a lot harder to get back some times than that what people think. It takes more than just changing head coaches.

You have to hire a coach that can do the basic 3 things to be successful as a HC at the collegiate level. 1)Must know how to recruit the right players in his system. 2)Must know how to develop players, you have to be able to see growth instead of seeing the same player as a freshman, play the same as a junior. 3)Must know how to connect with the fans and bring those back that have either just left or got disengaged with the program.

clt doesn’t care for your lack of basketball knowledge.