(09-18-2018 01:39 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  If you want to feel like the average fan views Rice the same as the brands USM and Marshall built, then go right ahead.

In the 13 years that Rice has shared C-USA with Marshall and Southern Miss, we each have one football championship.

One could select any time period before 2005 to argue their point on the brand value of any of the three schools.

C-USA does need all three of us at top form at the same time, which hasn't happened recently.

(09-18-2018 02:56 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  But to university presidents---its about saving money and academics. Sports success is probably a distant 3rd.

Correct.

If Athletics were all that mattered, Boise would be in the PAC. Heck, the MWC avoided them for years until they thought they had a shot at the AQ bid and finally added them.

(09-18-2018 02:56 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(09-18-2018 02:12 PM)balanced_view Wrote:  just to show how easy or hard it is to get a " Best of " conference put together( 12 or 14 teams), what would be the top 2 or 3 determining factors for picking the group of schools? and also what are a few tie breakers if there are several close grouped schools?

mine determining factors would be:
1) football success - conference championships and Bowl Games in last 5 years.

2) Basketball success - conference championships and NCAA appearances in last 5 years.

my tie breakers are :
1) active and relative larger fan base.

2) Baseball Success - conference championships and NCAA appearances in last 5 years.

3) Facilities, Budgets, standards for coaches.

But to university presidents---its about saving money and academics. Sports success is probably a distant 3rd.

well if thats the case, why is any of this c-usa/ Sun Belt thing even being discussed. we all know there well never be some even swapping of teams, so how are these presidents going to pick a group of schools that save money and yet fulfill the athletic desires of AD's, fans and Boosters? by what means will they use?

(09-18-2018 03:29 PM)CAJUNNATION Wrote:  

(09-18-2018 02:56 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  But to university presidents---its about saving money and academics. Sports success is probably a distant 3rd.

Correct.

If Athletics were all that mattered, Boise would be in the PAC. Heck, the MWC avoided them for years until they thought they had a shot at the AQ bid and finally added them.

we are not talking about anyone moving to a P5 leauge, we are talking about peer conferences creating there own version of a power style conference. and as you said the driving factor for MWC eventually adding them was due to Athletics

MWC was breaking off the outliers geography wise on the league and getting back to the core. Replacing UNLV for UTEP.

(09-18-2018 12:33 PM)CAJUNNATION Wrote:  

(09-18-2018 12:07 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  You can't be serious??

Marshall
So Miss
UAB
ODU
App State
Troy
UTSA
Louisiana
La Tech

Are definitely on another level than the schools who average around 15k fans per game in football. ODU doesn't average a ton in football but they had a long time sell out streak and they have good basketball attendance.

There are probably a few more that I left out but get serious.

You can't even compare the above schools to teams like Charlotte, UL-Monroe, and Coastal Carolina etc.

Now go get a map. That lineup won't work.

Also, you left out North Texas, who might be in the Access Bowl. You left out UTEP, who has historically been a top-5 in G5 football and basketball attendance. You left out Rice, who has a National Championship, elite Academics, and more money than God. You left out Western Kentucky, who might have the best basketball program out of the lot and was recently in contention for the Access Bowl. etc. etc.

Except for a few schools at the bottom, the vast majority of schools in CUSA and the SBC have not separated themselves. There is no grouping between the 2 that would warrant a "best of" from the entire footprint.

There are reasons to reorganize regionally however. We are either going to have 2 large, regional leagues without crossover, or we will have 3 smaller, regional leagues.

I wasn't advocating for those schools to form a new conference. I was stating those schools have in fact separated themselves from the bottom dwellers of each conference.

Football drives the bus for the most part. WKU averages around 15k/game in football. This isn't a spelling bee so there goes Rice, UTEP hasnt been good in decades but they do have a solid fan base. I did forget about North Texas but how can you even bring up Access Bowl in week 4? lol

I also said I'm sure I left a few teams out by mistake.

(09-18-2018 01:21 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(09-18-2018 12:07 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  

(09-18-2018 11:41 AM)CAJUNNATION Wrote:  I don't see enough material between CUSA and the SBC to make it clear enough who the "best of" schools are.

It worked for the MWC because they had the material. They had schools with clear advantages in attendance and budget.

You can't be serious??

Marshall
So Miss
UAB
ODU
App State
Troy
UTSA
Louisiana
La Tech

Are definitely on another level than the schools who average around 15k fans per game in football. ODU doesn't average a ton in football but they had a long time sell out streak and they have good basketball attendance.

There are probably a few more that I left out but get serious.

You can't even compare the above schools to teams like Charlotte, UL-Monroe, and Coastal Carolina etc.

If this is a "best of" seems rather odd that the winner of 5 of the last 7 Sun Belt football titles and the second largest budget of the 24 schools wouldn't be a "best of"

I was going off of fanbase mainly. I have no idea what you all average per game which is why I didn't include you all. I know you have a good football program. WKU was good just a few years ago but still, they average about 15k fans per game.

(09-18-2018 03:38 PM)balanced_view Wrote:  

(09-18-2018 02:56 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(09-18-2018 02:12 PM)balanced_view Wrote:  just to show how easy or hard it is to get a " Best of " conference put together( 12 or 14 teams), what would be the top 2 or 3 determining factors for picking the group of schools? and also what are a few tie breakers if there are several close grouped schools?

mine determining factors would be:
1) football success - conference championships and Bowl Games in last 5 years.

2) Basketball success - conference championships and NCAA appearances in last 5 years.

my tie breakers are :
1) active and relative larger fan base.

2) Baseball Success - conference championships and NCAA appearances in last 5 years.

3) Facilities, Budgets, standards for coaches.

But to university presidents---its about saving money and academics. Sports success is probably a distant 3rd.

well if thats the case, why is any of this c-usa/ Sun Belt thing even being discussed. we all know there well never be some even swapping of teams, so how are these presidents going to pick a group of schools that save money and yet fulfill the athletic desires of AD's, fans and Boosters? by what means will they use?

Like I said, they will pick ones that are near by and save money. Rice wont get left out because school presidents like the perception of their schools being associated with a highly respected academic school like Rice. Look, if something like this happens, it wont be an effort to create some sort of super power G5 league. It will be to reduce expenses to hopefully sell more tickets to traveling fans of those nearby schools.

(09-18-2018 04:24 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(09-18-2018 03:38 PM)balanced_view Wrote:  

(09-18-2018 02:56 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(09-18-2018 02:12 PM)balanced_view Wrote:  just to show how easy or hard it is to get a " Best of " conference put together( 12 or 14 teams), what would be the top 2 or 3 determining factors for picking the group of schools? and also what are a few tie breakers if there are several close grouped schools?

mine determining factors would be:
1) football success - conference championships and Bowl Games in last 5 years.

2) Basketball success - conference championships and NCAA appearances in last 5 years.

my tie breakers are :
1) active and relative larger fan base.

2) Baseball Success - conference championships and NCAA appearances in last 5 years.

3) Facilities, Budgets, standards for coaches.

But to university presidents---its about saving money and academics. Sports success is probably a distant 3rd.

well if thats the case, why is any of this c-usa/ Sun Belt thing even being discussed. we all know there well never be some even swapping of teams, so how are these presidents going to pick a group of schools that save money and yet fulfill the athletic desires of AD's, fans and Boosters? by what means will they use?

Like I said, they will pick ones that are near by and save money. Rice wont get left out because school presidents like the perception of their schools being associated with a highly respected academic school like Rice. Look, if something like this happens, it wont be an effort to create some sort of super power G5 league. It will be to reduce expenses to hopefully sell more tickets to traveling fans of those nearby schools.

so you think being regional close schools is the deciding factor, and thus an east west split of both c-usa and Sun Belt will be what happens, forming 2 regional conferences?

(09-18-2018 02:56 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(09-18-2018 02:12 PM)balanced_view Wrote:  just to show how easy or hard it is to get a " Best of " conference put together( 12 or 14 teams), what would be the top 2 or 3 determining factors for picking the group of schools? and also what are a few tie breakers if there are several close grouped schools?

mine determining factors would be:
1) football success - conference championships and Bowl Games in last 5 years.

2) Basketball success - conference championships and NCAA appearances in last 5 years.

my tie breakers are :
1) active and relative larger fan base.

2) Baseball Success - conference championships and NCAA appearances in last 5 years.

3) Facilities, Budgets, standards for coaches.

But to university presidents---its about saving money and academics. Sports success is probably a distant 3rd.

At the G5 level with tight state funding, saving/making money is probably a much larger factor than it ever is in P5 discussions.

Agreed. The money saved by busing the olympic sports would be worth it in the end, but I will be pissed if Marshall ever gives up games with a school like So Miss to go play Coastal Carolina just because they are closer.

There still has to be some common sense in terms of taking the best programs.

I think these schools will stay together no matter what, but I could be wrong.

Marshall
WKU
MTSU
UAB
So Miss

From there I have no idea what happens but I think Marshall, Southern Miss, and UAB are going to stick together. I also think UAB and Marshall for sure want to be with WKU and MTSU (under this scenario) and I think So Miss is more than ok with both of them.

(09-18-2018 09:28 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  Agreed. The money saved by busing the olympic sports would be worth it in the end, but I will be pissed if Marshall ever gives up games with a school like So Miss to go play Coastal Carolina just because they are closer.

There still has to be some common sense in terms of taking the best programs.

I think these schools will stay together no matter what, but I could be wrong.

Marshall
WKU
MTSU
UAB
So Miss

From there I have no idea what happens but I think Marshall, Southern Miss, and UAB are going to stick together. I also think UAB and Marshall for sure want to be with WKU and MTSU (under this scenario) and I think So Miss is more than ok with both of them.

Just draw a line down the middle of the conference and pretend that everyone else will acquiesce to your geographic fantasy...

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You do wonder if West Texas A&M have not dropped down to D2? Would they be in C-USA instead of UTSA? West Texas A&M are no newbies in football. Then, would UTSA be in Sun Belt instead of Texas State? Texas State be WAC/Independent in football?

This thread sounds more like ifs on when these guys realign in the future. With tv money going down, but live online streaming goes up is where the money is. I do think if you are not in the top 7 FBS conference? You may see C-USA, MAC and SBC break apart and reform into regional set ups which means we could see 2 to 3 new conferences. WAC, Southern, Southland, MVC and Big West had 1-A in front of them.

MVFC could take the MVC football credits to FBS.
C-USA west schools along with some SBC west schools could be SWC banner. Southeast C-USA and Southeast C-USA could form into SBC with some FCS call ups.
The northeast C-USA members, Western Kentucky, Marshall, ODU, along with UMass. and App. State could form a northeast C-USA conference.

SWC: West;
Texas State
UTEP
UTSA
Rice
North Texas
Sam Houston State from Southland

East:
La-Lafayette
La. Tech
Missouri State from MVFC
Arkansas State
Lamar from southland
UCA from Southland

MAC: West:
Northern Illinois
Illinois State from MVFC
Ball State
Indiana State from MVFC
Eastern Michigan
Western Michigan
Central Michigan

East:
Youngstown State from MVFC
Ohio U
Toledo
Kent State
Miami
Akron
Bowling Green

SBC: West:
Southern Mississippi
Chattanooga from southern
Middle Tennessee State
UAB
Troy
South Alabama

East:
Coastal Carolina
FIU
FAU
Georgia State
Georgia Southern
Charlotte

C-USA: South:
Western Kentucky
Marshall
Delaware
ODU
Appalachian State
James Madison

North:
UMass.
Army football only
Buffalo
Stony Brook
Albany
New Hampshire

MVFC:
Western Illinois
Southern Illinois
Northern Iowa
North Dakota
NDSU
South Dakota
South Dakota State

West:
Montana
Montana State
Northern Colorado
New Mexico State (football only)
Idaho
Weber State
Northern Arizona

SWC and MVC (in this case MVFC) are not new conferences. SWC just a rebirth and MVFC could wind up as MVC as the leftover privates go to either Horizon or the Summit. Both were 1A or FBS conferences at their time. Nobody would be left out of post season.

I have other schools that could be future replacements.
Kennesaw State
Jackson State
Tennessee State
FLA&M
Northern Colorado
Eastern Washington
UTRGV
North Carolina A&T
East tennessee State
eastern Kentucky
North Alabama
Eastern Washington
Sacramento State
UC-Davis
Cal. Poly

In the future:
West Texas A&M
Little Rock
UTA
Midwestern State
Tarleton State
Central Oklahoma
Wayne State, Michigan
West Florida
Texas A&M- Commerce
Florida Tech
North Florida
FGCU
Clumbus State

(09-19-2018 02:49 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  You do wonder if West Texas A&M have not dropped down to D2? Would they be in C-USA instead of UTSA? West Texas A&M are no newbies in football. Then, would UTSA be in Sun Belt instead of Texas State? Texas State be WAC/Independent in football?

This thread sounds more like ifs on when these guys realign in the future. With tv money going down, but live online streaming goes up is where the money is. I do think if you are not in the top 7 FBS conference? You may see C-USA, MAC and SBC break apart and reform into regional set ups which means we could see 2 to 3 new conferences. WAC, Southern, Southland, MVC and Big West had 1-A in front of them.

MVFC could take the MVC football credits to FBS.
C-USA west schools along with some SBC west schools could be SWC banner. Southeast C-USA and Southeast C-USA could form into SBC with some FCS call ups.
The northeast C-USA members, Western Kentucky, Marshall, ODU, along with UMass. and App. State could form a northeast C-USA conference.

SWC: West;
Texas State
UTEP
UTSA
Rice
North Texas
Sam Houston State from Southland

East:
La-Lafayette
La. Tech
Missouri State from MVFC
Arkansas State
Lamar from southland
UCA from Southland

MAC: West:
Northern Illinois
Illinois State from MVFC
Ball State
Indiana State from MVFC
Eastern Michigan
Western Michigan
Central Michigan

East:
Youngstown State from MVFC
Ohio U
Toledo
Kent State
Miami
Akron
Bowling Green

SBC: West:
Southern Mississippi
Chattanooga from southern
Middle Tennessee State
UAB
Troy
South Alabama

East:
Coastal Carolina
FIU
FAU
Georgia State
Georgia Southern
Charlotte

C-USA: South:
Western Kentucky
Marshall
Delaware
ODU
Towson
James Madison

North:
UMass.
Army football only
Buffalo
Stony Brook
Albany
New Hampshire

MVFC:
Western Illinois
Southern Illinois
Northern Iowa
North Dakota
NDSU
South Dakota
South Dakota State

West:
Montana
Montana State
Northern Colorado
New Mexico State (football only)
Idaho
Weber State
Northern Arizona

SWC and MVC (in this case MVFC) are not new conferences. SWC just a rebirth and MVFC could wind up as MVC as the leftover privates go to either Horizon or the Summit. Both were 1A or FBS conferences at their time. Nobody would be left out of post season.

I have other schools that could be future replacements.
Kennesaw State
Jackson State
Tennessee State
FLA&M
Northern Colorado
Eastern Washington
UTRGV
North Carolina A&T
East tennessee State
eastern Kentucky
North Alabama
Eastern Washington
Sacramento State
UC-Davis
Cal. Poly

In the future:
West Texas A&M
Little Rock
UTA
Midwestern State
Tarleton State
Central Oklahoma
Wayne State, Michigan
West Florida
Texas A&M- Commerce
Florida Tech
North Florida
FGCU
Clumbus State

I can't believe you spent that much time putting together something that is this dumb lol

(09-19-2018 08:35 AM)herdfan129 Wrote:  

(09-19-2018 02:49 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  You do wonder if West Texas A&M have not dropped down to D2? Would they be in C-USA instead of UTSA? West Texas A&M are no newbies in football. Then, would UTSA be in Sun Belt instead of Texas State? Texas State be WAC/Independent in football?

This thread sounds more like ifs on when these guys realign in the future. With tv money going down, but live online streaming goes up is where the money is. I do think if you are not in the top 7 FBS conference? You may see C-USA, MAC and SBC break apart and reform into regional set ups which means we could see 2 to 3 new conferences. WAC, Southern, Southland, MVC and Big West had 1-A in front of them.

MVFC could take the MVC football credits to FBS.
C-USA west schools along with some SBC west schools could be SWC banner. Southeast C-USA and Southeast C-USA could form into SBC with some FCS call ups.
The northeast C-USA members, Western Kentucky, Marshall, ODU, along with UMass. and App. State could form a northeast C-USA conference.

SWC: West;
Texas State
UTEP
UTSA
Rice
North Texas
Sam Houston State from Southland

East:
La-Lafayette
La. Tech
Missouri State from MVFC
Arkansas State
Lamar from southland
UCA from Southland

MAC: West:
Northern Illinois
Illinois State from MVFC
Ball State
Indiana State from MVFC
Eastern Michigan
Western Michigan
Central Michigan

East:
Youngstown State from MVFC
Ohio U
Toledo
Kent State
Miami
Akron
Bowling Green

SBC: West:
Southern Mississippi
Chattanooga from southern
Middle Tennessee State
UAB
Troy
South Alabama

East:
Coastal Carolina
FIU
FAU
Georgia State
Georgia Southern
Charlotte

C-USA: South:
Western Kentucky
Marshall
Delaware
ODU
Towson
James Madison

North:
UMass.
Army football only
Buffalo
Stony Brook
Albany
New Hampshire

MVFC:
Western Illinois
Southern Illinois
Northern Iowa
North Dakota
NDSU
South Dakota
South Dakota State

West:
Montana
Montana State
Northern Colorado
New Mexico State (football only)
Idaho
Weber State
Northern Arizona

SWC and MVC (in this case MVFC) are not new conferences. SWC just a rebirth and MVFC could wind up as MVC as the leftover privates go to either Horizon or the Summit. Both were 1A or FBS conferences at their time. Nobody would be left out of post season.

I have other schools that could be future replacements.
Kennesaw State
Jackson State
Tennessee State
FLA&M
Northern Colorado
Eastern Washington
UTRGV
North Carolina A&T
East tennessee State
eastern Kentucky
North Alabama
Eastern Washington
Sacramento State
UC-Davis
Cal. Poly

In the future:
West Texas A&M
Little Rock
UTA
Midwestern State
Tarleton State
Central Oklahoma
Wayne State, Michigan
West Florida
Texas A&M- Commerce
Florida Tech
North Florida
FGCU
Clumbus State

I can't believe you spent that much time putting together something that is this dumb lol

(09-19-2018 02:49 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  You do wonder if West Texas A&M have not dropped down to D2? Would they be in C-USA instead of UTSA? West Texas A&M are no newbies in football. Then, would UTSA be in Sun Belt instead of Texas State? Texas State be WAC/Independent in football?

This thread sounds more like ifs on when these guys realign in the future. With tv money going down, but live online streaming goes up is where the money is. I do think if you are not in the top 7 FBS conference? You may see C-USA, MAC and SBC break apart and reform into regional set ups which means we could see 2 to 3 new conferences. WAC, Southern, Southland, MVC and Big West had 1-A in front of them.

MVFC could take the MVC football credits to FBS.
C-USA west schools along with some SBC west schools could be SWC banner. Southeast C-USA and Southeast C-USA could form into SBC with some FCS call ups.
The northeast C-USA members, Western Kentucky, Marshall, ODU, along with UMass. and App. State could form a northeast C-USA conference.

SWC: West;
Texas State
UTEP
UTSA
Rice
North Texas
Sam Houston State from Southland

East:
La-Lafayette
La. Tech
Missouri State from MVFC
Arkansas State
Lamar from southland
UCA from Southland

MAC: West:
Northern Illinois
Illinois State from MVFC
Ball State
Indiana State from MVFC
Eastern Michigan
Western Michigan
Central Michigan

East:
Youngstown State from MVFC
Ohio U
Toledo
Kent State
Miami
Akron
Bowling Green

SBC: West:
Southern Mississippi
Chattanooga from southern
Middle Tennessee State
UAB
Troy
South Alabama

East:
Coastal Carolina
FIU
FAU
Georgia State
Georgia Southern
Charlotte

C-USA: South:
Western Kentucky
Marshall
Delaware
ODU
Towson
James Madison

North:
UMass.
Army football only
Buffalo
Stony Brook
Albany
New Hampshire

MVFC:
Western Illinois
Southern Illinois
Northern Iowa
North Dakota
NDSU
South Dakota
South Dakota State

West:
Montana
Montana State
Northern Colorado
New Mexico State (football only)
Idaho
Weber State
Northern Arizona

SWC and MVC (in this case MVFC) are not new conferences. SWC just a rebirth and MVFC could wind up as MVC as the leftover privates go to either Horizon or the Summit. Both were 1A or FBS conferences at their time. Nobody would be left out of post season.

I have other schools that could be future replacements.
Kennesaw State
Jackson State
Tennessee State
FLA&M
Northern Colorado
Eastern Washington
UTRGV
North Carolina A&T
East tennessee State
eastern Kentucky
North Alabama
Eastern Washington
Sacramento State
UC-Davis
Cal. Poly

In the future:
West Texas A&M
Little Rock
UTA
Midwestern State
Tarleton State
Central Oklahoma
Wayne State, Michigan
West Florida
Texas A&M- Commerce
Florida Tech
North Florida
FGCU
Clumbus State

3 FCS move-ups over ULM? Get outta here

(09-19-2018 08:35 AM)herdfan129 Wrote:  

(09-19-2018 02:49 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  You do wonder if West Texas A&M have not dropped down to D2? Would they be in C-USA instead of UTSA? West Texas A&M are no newbies in football. Then, would UTSA be in Sun Belt instead of Texas State? Texas State be WAC/Independent in football?

This thread sounds more like ifs on when these guys realign in the future. With tv money going down, but live online streaming goes up is where the money is. I do think if you are not in the top 7 FBS conference? You may see C-USA, MAC and SBC break apart and reform into regional set ups which means we could see 2 to 3 new conferences. WAC, Southern, Southland, MVC and Big West had 1-A in front of them.

MVFC could take the MVC football credits to FBS.
C-USA west schools along with some SBC west schools could be SWC banner. Southeast C-USA and Southeast C-USA could form into SBC with some FCS call ups.
The northeast C-USA members, Western Kentucky, Marshall, ODU, along with UMass. and App. State could form a northeast C-USA conference.

SWC: West;
Texas State
UTEP
UTSA
Rice
North Texas
Sam Houston State from Southland

East:
La-Lafayette
La. Tech
Missouri State from MVFC
Arkansas State
Lamar from southland
UCA from Southland

MAC: West:
Northern Illinois
Illinois State from MVFC
Ball State
Indiana State from MVFC
Eastern Michigan
Western Michigan
Central Michigan

East:
Youngstown State from MVFC
Ohio U
Toledo
Kent State
Miami
Akron
Bowling Green

SBC: West:
Southern Mississippi
Chattanooga from southern
Middle Tennessee State
UAB
Troy
South Alabama

East:
Coastal Carolina
FIU
FAU
Georgia State
Georgia Southern
Charlotte

C-USA: South:
Western Kentucky
Marshall
Delaware
ODU
Towson
James Madison

North:
UMass.
Army football only
Buffalo
Stony Brook
Albany
New Hampshire

MVFC:
Western Illinois
Southern Illinois
Northern Iowa
North Dakota
NDSU
South Dakota
South Dakota State

West:
Montana
Montana State
Northern Colorado
New Mexico State (football only)
Idaho
Weber State
Northern Arizona

SWC and MVC (in this case MVFC) are not new conferences. SWC just a rebirth and MVFC could wind up as MVC as the leftover privates go to either Horizon or the Summit. Both were 1A or FBS conferences at their time. Nobody would be left out of post season.

I have other schools that could be future replacements.
Kennesaw State
Jackson State
Tennessee State
FLA&M
Northern Colorado
Eastern Washington
UTRGV
North Carolina A&T
East tennessee State
eastern Kentucky
North Alabama
Eastern Washington
Sacramento State
UC-Davis
Cal. Poly

In the future:
West Texas A&M
Little Rock
UTA
Midwestern State
Tarleton State
Central Oklahoma
Wayne State, Michigan
West Florida
Texas A&M- Commerce
Florida Tech
North Florida
FGCU
Clumbus State

I can't believe you spent that much time putting together something that is this dumb lol

Surely has a text file can just cut and paste from.

(09-19-2018 09:03 AM)debragga Wrote:  3 FCS move-ups over ULM? Get outta here

He hates Coastal and Georgia State, yet put them and Charlotte over App.
Also Chattanooga?

(09-17-2018 03:54 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  

(09-17-2018 01:23 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Unless theres a significant new funding stream....nobody is likely to go anywhere. You need to get 3/4ths of both conferences to approve a split up/rehash. Otherwise youre spending 2 or 3 payday games revenue to split it up, minimum. None of our teams are flush with cash.

Remember, La Tech wont play with ULM
UALR and UTA get full votes
Baseball matters in the Sun Belt
Arkansas State and WKU recruit Alabama extensively
Marshall wants to stay with at least one of the F_Us and preferably both
USA prefers to stay West
10 teams, rather than 14, actually maximizes revenue
Arkansas State is comfortable with the Belt at this time.

And thats before you get into unknown issues, such as...would USM or UAB block USA or Troy? How do the CUSA Texas schools feel about Texas State? Do MTSU, UNT, and WKU decide to turn their noses up at teams from the Belt?

It doesn't have to be a rehash between both conferences. This is going to be the best programs breaking away to form a new conference. No worries, I don't see South Alabama making the cut unless both So Miss and UAB decided to push for you guys.

That is already what happened. The CUSA invited the biggest budget Sun Belt programs. UNT, WKU, MTSU, FAU and FIU were clearly the top budget Sun Belt schools. It went straight down the line. ODU, UNCC and UTSA had bigger budgets than anyone in the Sun Belt. La Tech was the only exception in the bunch.

(09-19-2018 10:50 AM)seaking4steel Wrote:  

(09-19-2018 09:03 AM)debragga Wrote:  3 FCS move-ups over ULM? Get outta here

He hates Coastal and Georgia State, yet put them and Charlotte over App.
Also Chattanooga?

I corrected it. I took Towson out and put Appalachian State in the north.

La.-Monroe will be homeless just like New Mexico State. La. Tech do not want them.