Quote:Attorney General Jeff Sessions is exploring a potential investigation of social media companies and will be briefed on Sept. 25 by Republican state attorneys general who are already examining the firms’ practices, according to two people familiar with the matter.

The meeting -- which will include a representative of the Justice Department’s antitrust division -- is intended to help Sessions decide if there’s a federal case to be made against companies such as Alphabet Inc.’s Google, Facebook Inc. and Twitter Inc. for violating consumer-protection or antitrust laws, the people said.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/...dia-giants

"You just wait. 2 more weeks. Anti-trust. Executive orders, you name it."

-- Alex Jones, 9/5/2018

Government over reach on Sessions Part. Google(Youtube, Google search, Google Plus), Facebook and Twitter do have competition.

Kongregate, Myspace, Armor, Reverbation, MyYearbook, Daily Motion, Twitch, Veoh, tubi.tv, Tagged, Kano Apps, Bing, Yahoo, Dogpile, DuckDuckGo, Bleckko, boardreader, ccsearch, Technorati, Reddit, and so forth. There are social media sites for adults looking for others to date, and there used to be a site called Camospace.

2 companies control 99% of the mobile OS & application market, and now they're injecting their politics, where anything they disagree with is "hate speech" and therefore banned.

The laws are already in place. The tech companies are just skirting them.

Quote:Standard Oil and Co. and American Telephone and Telegraph Co. were the technological titans of their day, commanding more than 80% of their markets.

Today’s tech giants are just as dominant: In the U.S., Alphabet Inc.’s Google drives 89% of internet search; 95% of young adults on the internet use a Facebook Inc. product; and Amazon.com Inc. now accounts for 75% of electronic book sales. Those firms that aren’t monopolists are duopolists: Google and Facebook absorbed 63% of online ad spending last year; Google and Apple Inc. provide 99% of mobile phone operating systems; while Apple and Microsoft Corp. supply 95% of desktop operating systems.

A growing number of critics think these tech giants need to be broken up or regulated as Standard Oil and AT&T once were. Their alleged sins run the gamut from disseminating fake news and fostering addiction to laying waste to small towns’ shopping districts.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-antitru...1516121561

Amazon controls 75% of book sales, and today started banning books because muh sexism.

Quote:Amazon Takes Down Nine Books Self-Published on Kindle by Virulent Sexist 'Roosh'

On Monday, Amazon took the rare step of removing nine of more than a dozen books written by Valizadeh from its website, including his most recent one, published Friday. Amazon banned the books after HuffPost reached out to ask whether Valizadeh’s content was in violation of the company’s content guidelines for self-published material — but not before it hit the top 1,000 books sold on Amazon that day. Valizadeh sold more than 2,000 copies at $23 each before Amazon knocked the books off its site, he claimed later.

https://gizmodo.com/report-amazon-takes-...1828958245

(09-12-2018 01:20 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  Government over reach on Sessions Part. Google(Youtube, Google search, Google Plus), Facebook and Twitter do have competition.

Kongregate, Myspace, Armor, Reverbation, MyYearbook, Daily Motion, Twitch, Veoh, tubi.tv, Tagged, Kano Apps, Bing, Yahoo, Dogpile, DuckDuckGo, Bleckko, boardreader, ccsearch, Technorati, Reddit, and so forth. There are social media sites for adults looking for others to date, and there used to be a site called Camospace.

Whose job is it then, if not the government?

(09-12-2018 08:16 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(09-12-2018 01:20 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  Government over reach on Sessions Part. Google(Youtube, Google search, Google Plus), Facebook and Twitter do have competition.

Kongregate, Myspace, Armor, Reverbation, MyYearbook, Daily Motion, Twitch, Veoh, tubi.tv, Tagged, Kano Apps, Bing, Yahoo, Dogpile, DuckDuckGo, Bleckko, boardreader, ccsearch, Technorati, Reddit, and so forth. There are social media sites for adults looking for others to date, and there used to be a site called Camospace.

Whose job is it then, if not the government?

Anti-trust is like you have a company that have no competition. NCAA is like that when you do not allow some schools to compete for a FBS championship. In the Social Media world, all these online companies can compete to be number 1. MySpace was number 1, but Facebook took over. So, there are other players out there. Plus, like I said before, they banned lefties as well that used something that iolate the TOS. As it is, this forum is also considered a social network. Voyforums, Proboards, Yahoo Groups,Wordpress, Pintrist, Instagram, and others. The people that have been banned could use this and tell Sessions that the board's owner and the mods Violated their 1st Amendment Rights. This could open a big can of worms when you get feds coming in here and disrupt the business of this forum.

I know somebody veddy well that stated, "wtf are you doing dipshite"

it's about g'dammed time this gets laid out in the courts....

if for nothing else, the rules/laws WILL CHANGE relative to accountability....as they should........

THEY'RE OUT OF CONTROL...

(09-12-2018 01:20 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  Government over reach on Sessions Part. Google(Youtube, Google search, Google Plus), Facebook and Twitter do have competition.

Kongregate, Myspace, Armor, Reverbation, MyYearbook, Daily Motion, Twitch, Veoh, tubi.tv, Tagged, Kano Apps, Bing, Yahoo, Dogpile, DuckDuckGo, Bleckko, boardreader, ccsearch, Technorati, Reddit, and so forth. There are social media sites for adults looking for others to date, and there used to be a site called Camospace.

Several social media sites appear to have coordinated a removal of various people.

While collusion may be legal in the Middle East, it's not legal here.

And I believe the article says they may be exploring it. If there's a valid case, then it's not over reach. If there's not a valid case, then we'll see if they take any action at all.

(09-11-2018 07:15 PM)Kronke Wrote:  

Quote:Attorney General Jeff Sessions is exploring a potential investigation of social media companies and will be briefed on Sept. 25 by Republican state attorneys general who are already examining the firms’ practices, according to two people familiar with the matter.

The meeting -- which will include a representative of the Justice Department’s antitrust division -- is intended to help Sessions decide if there’s a federal case to be made against companies such as Alphabet Inc.’s Google, Facebook Inc. and Twitter Inc. for violating consumer-protection or antitrust laws, the people said.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/...dia-giants

HELL YEAH!!!!! GET IT DONE!!!

(09-12-2018 11:02 AM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(09-12-2018 01:20 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  Government over reach on Sessions Part. Google(Youtube, Google search, Google Plus), Facebook and Twitter do have competition.

Kongregate, Myspace, Armor, Reverbation, MyYearbook, Daily Motion, Twitch, Veoh, tubi.tv, Tagged, Kano Apps, Bing, Yahoo, Dogpile, DuckDuckGo, Bleckko, boardreader, ccsearch, Technorati, Reddit, and so forth. There are social media sites for adults looking for others to date, and there used to be a site called Camospace.

Several social media sites appear to have coordinated a removal of various people.

While collusion may be legal in the Middle East, it's not legal here.

And I believe the article says they may be exploring it. If there's a valid case, then it's not over reach. If there's not a valid case, then we'll see if they take any action at all.

That is not true. These same people got banned from many sites. Not from who the feds are doing is nothing but a witch hunt.

(09-12-2018 11:55 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(09-12-2018 11:02 AM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(09-12-2018 01:20 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  Government over reach on Sessions Part. Google(Youtube, Google search, Google Plus), Facebook and Twitter do have competition.

Kongregate, Myspace, Armor, Reverbation, MyYearbook, Daily Motion, Twitch, Veoh, tubi.tv, Tagged, Kano Apps, Bing, Yahoo, Dogpile, DuckDuckGo, Bleckko, boardreader, ccsearch, Technorati, Reddit, and so forth. There are social media sites for adults looking for others to date, and there used to be a site called Camospace.

Several social media sites appear to have coordinated a removal of various people.

While collusion may be legal in the Middle East, it's not legal here.

And I believe the article says they may be exploring it. If there's a valid case, then it's not over reach. If there's not a valid case, then we'll see if they take any action at all.

That is not true. These same people got banned from many sites. Not from who the feds are doing is nothing but a witch hunt.

Help me out with that last sentence.

Yeah, that last sentence doesn't make any sense. Jones got banned from 20-something platforms all within 24 hours, after being on them for decades without incident. There's no way he could simultaneously violate all those different TOS.

And now that they've all but gotten away with it, they are ratcheting up the purge.

I know why we want to do this. Yet, I am just not sure I want the government mucking around with private businesses.

Oh, and the leak from Breitbart of an internal meeting at Google of their top brass literally in tears over the election, and vowing to "do something" certainly doesn't help their case.

(09-13-2018 01:45 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  I know why we want to do this. Yet, I am just not sure I want the government mucking around with private businesses.

All I'm asking for is current law to be enforced. Twitter and Facebook in particular describe themselves as neutral forums under Section 230 of the CDA, where they are allowed immunity from the content posted on their platforms.

Whenever they start shadow banning and editorializing, they become publishers and lose immunity.

They can either go back to what they were founded on (free and open), or become like the NYT and be held liable for everything that is posted on their platforms, opening them up to hundreds of billions of dollars in lawsuits.

Pick one.

(09-13-2018 01:49 PM)Kronke Wrote:  

(09-13-2018 01:45 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  I know why we want to do this. Yet, I am just not sure I want the government mucking around with private businesses.

All I'm asking for is current law to be enforced. Twitter and Facebook in particular describe themselves as neutral forums under Section 230 of the CDA, where they are allowed immunity from the content posted on their platforms.

Whenever they start shadow banning and editorializing, they become publishers and lose immunity.

They can either go back to what they were founded on (free and open), or become like the NYT and be held liable for everything that is posted on their platforms, opening them up to hundreds of billions of dollars in lawsuits.

Pick one.

My vote's for the lawsuits!

(09-13-2018 01:49 PM)Kronke Wrote:  Pick one.

The most powerful word in the free market is “no”. So if we pick lawsuits then we need to be prepared to live by those rules when the tide turns.

(09-13-2018 04:59 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  

(09-13-2018 01:49 PM)Kronke Wrote:  Pick one.

The most powerful word in the free market is “no”. So if we pick lawsuits then we need to be prepared to live by those rules when the tide turns.

Living by the rule of current law is how it's always been, before social media companies decided to take it on themselves to become moral arbiters of the internet.

How can it be against the 1st amendment for President Trump to block people from interacting with his account, but it be perfectly okay for twitter to prevent Alex Jones (or anyone else they've permanently banned) from having a twitter account?

Quote:Trump’s Blocking of Twitter Users Is Unconstitutional, Judge Says

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/23/busin...block.html

(09-13-2018 05:28 PM)Kronke Wrote:  How can it be against the 1st amendment for President Trump to block people from interacting with his account, but it be perfectly okay for twitter to prevent Alex Jones (or anyone else they've permanently banned) from having a twitter account?

Because Trump is the government, and Twitter is a business. There are vast and well understood differences in the application of the First Amendment between the two.