(09-01-2018 02:14 PM)DBJMU2006 Wrote:  Oh look, B.C. is beating UMass 48-7 halfway into the 3rd

UMass is another shining example of a FCS school that does not belong in FBS.

(09-02-2018 01:15 PM)JMU_71 Wrote:  Here’s another State take on the game. There’s some pretty good comments too.

https://www.backingthepack.com/2018/9/2/...n-football



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Gutless field goals is right.

(09-02-2018 10:25 PM)JacksonHall Wrote:  

(09-02-2018 01:15 PM)JMU_71 Wrote:  Here’s another State take on the game. There’s some pretty good comments too.

https://www.backingthepack.com/2018/9/2/...n-football



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Gutless field goals is right.

aka... strategy. If the defense makes 1 stop in the last 6 minutes JMU takes the ball with a chance to win the game.

(09-02-2018 06:56 AM)JMURocks Wrote:  A good thread to read for some perspective about how non-purple glasses viewed this game: https://247sports.com/college/north-caro...121279909/

I'm sure all this has been said by now, but

1) We were winning the game along the OLine and DLine. Very few teams we see (not even sure NDSU), will be able to handle our linemen this year. Our lines were faster and better conditioned than NC St was. Big props to Big John for that!

2) I was impressed how well we adjusted at halftime after getting toasted a few times on the midrange passing game. Obviously having even our 3rd or 4th CBs available could have flipped things.

3) NC St fans were classy, though the stadium didn't get nearly as loud as I expected. It didn't feel like noise was a factor at all, and our team was ready with hand signals to deal with communciation issues. NC St fans were VERY worried we were going to win at the end, and congratulated us afterward on a well fought game.

4) Really would have liked to see us go for it on the last FG. While I understand the "take the points" reasoning, if we had found a way to get in the endzone, it could have changed the whole game. After that point the pack was in eat the clock mode.

5) On our last drive, it seemed like we were thinking "just one more score" instead of two. Would have liked to see a few shots deep down the field there, since there was nothing to lose at that point. It felt like things were a bit conservative at the end given the score and time remaining.

6) Overall, very impressed with our team, and how we played and represented ourselves. We would be a respectable ACC team, this year! As the season goes on and this team gels, we are going to flat at demolish most teams.

7) There is a > 50% chance we see NDSU in Frisco. Don't think we will lose another game, and they likely won't drop more than one regulr season. Likely the 1 and 2 seeds for the playoffs this year.

Well said. I agree on all counts.

(09-02-2018 10:29 AM)Longhorn Wrote:  

(09-02-2018 10:05 AM)ciscopack Wrote:  

(09-02-2018 09:21 AM)#YEEHAWDUKES Wrote:  

(09-02-2018 06:56 AM)JMURocks Wrote:  A good thread to read for some perspective about how non-purple glasses viewed this game: https://247sports.com/college/north-caro...121279909/

I'm sure all this has been said by now, but

1) We were winning the game along the OLine and DLine. Very few teams we see (not even sure NDSU), will be able to handle our linemen this year. Our lines were faster and better conditioned than NC St was. Big props to Big John for that!

2) I was impressed how well we adjusted at halftime after getting toasted a few times on the midrange passing game. Obviously having even our 3rd or 4th CBs available could have flipped things.

3) NC St fans were classy, though the stadium didn't get nearly as loud as I expected. It didn't feel like noise was a factor at all, and our team was ready with hand signals to deal with communciation issues. NC St fans were VERY worried we were going to win at the end, and congratulated us afterward on a well fought game.

4) Really would have liked to see us go for it on the last FG. While I understand the "take the points" reasoning, if we had found a way to get in the endzone, it could have changed the whole game. After that point the pack was in eat the clock mode.

5) On our last drive, it seemed like we were thinking "just one more score" instead of two. Would have liked to see a few shots deep down the field there, since there was nothing to lose at that point. It felt like things were a bit conservative at the end given the score and time remaining.

6) Overall, very impressed with our team, and how we played and represented ourselves. We would be a respectable ACC team, this year! As the season goes on and this team gels, we are going to flat at demolish most teams.

7) There is a > 50% chance we see NDSU in Frisco. Don't think we will lose another game, and they likely won't drop more than one regulr season. Likely the 1 and 2 seeds for the playoffs this year.

NDSU plays 7 home games and 4 road games without an FBS team on the schedule. No way they lose more than 2 games so they’re pretty much guaranteed a top 2 seed and home field to Frisco.

You have a good team and should be proud of them! Many of them once played for UVA, GT, Pitt, etc. and they are not with you because they couldn't play at those places.....I've seen them play before. You got them because they could transfer there and play sooner and you have a good staff that obviously will be courted and the 10 year thing won't matter on bit. Win a championship this season and good luck!

1) We did lose 4 DL and 2 OL to the NFL and our back-ups aren't quite as athletic. We're slower and it showed.....those guys played last year but the 6 who left helped them a ton too. We're proud of our strength and conditioning staff but in that heat.....being bigger appeared to hurt some. I thought JMU looked fresher all game. Now....if we were playing Clemson...our fans and players automatically find more oxygen and back-up power....it's natural. You were playing what should be your toughest regular season game....it gives your fans and players more natural uuumpphh.

2) You adjusted well and we were missing a CB starter, a WR starter and 6'7" USC transfer TE starter too. He can't play until game 4.

3) Natural electricity flows better at night instead of 12 noon; it increases with each passing hour.....FSU, Clemson, Notre Dame, etc. get the full extent. If not for ESPNU, that is a 7PM start. We play at 12:30 PM this coming week too. Who is your next to the weakest team you play at home this year....are your fans into that game coming in as much as your top tier games? Maybe you don't have any competition in the regular season? NDS gets your attention! You have a good team.....the casual NCSU fan thought it was a cakewalk coming in and they are complaining instead of knowing how well you played.

4) I understand

5) I understand

6) I agree and I certainly hope we can get better too. If not....500 ball overall might be the route. I think we will. We'll be better than last year at LB, DB, TE, WR, as good at QB and worse at OL, RB and DL. The RB back-ups are young and we don't know what we have there. OL and DL must improve but we won't be better than last year no matter what (there). We ain't Alabama/Clemson with quality depth but we are getting better at it. That is our goal. The DBs looked soft but they are young and part of it is DC thinking....too easy to dink and dunk. Last year we could get out of position a little on the DL and close the gaps with athleticism. Keep supporting your good team!

7) That's too good....I'd love to win every game but to think....we have no competition is not exciting at all!!!!! 30% of our fans would be in the parking lot drinking during the games. Alabama, Clemson, tOSU...they can't think that or they will get their ass handed to them. The have to show us and play ball......we had Clemson beat the last 2 years but failed to beat them (FG misses when they won the title and turnover last season). Even UConn women BB get some competition.

Good Luck!!

You've expressed the same thought other NCST fans like to make in that JMU played harder because you team was our "Super Bowl". That's a mistake. Being JMU's toughest opponent does not make it a game where some "intangible" magic "uuummph" comes into play. Under the current coaching staff, JMU plays to win every game. Indeed, our coach was irritated post-game because he thought it was a game JMU should have won, and had JMU fielded 5 missing starters on D (including 2 All-Americans), its quite likely JMU would have won.

Thank your lucky stars for a superior QB and a couple excellent WRs, and good luck during the rest of the season. JMU's biggest games are in front of us, and NCST will only be remembered as one that got away.

Someone else claimed JMU was missing 5 starters on defense. Again, unless I am missing someone, it was at most 4- Robinson, Carter, Word, and Oliver (if you count the nickel as a starter- it is like a 12th starting position).

Were missing 1 All American- Robinson. Only other 1 from defense to make any AA list was Moreland (HERO & Stats).

(09-02-2018 11:32 PM)jmu007 Wrote:  

(09-02-2018 10:25 PM)JacksonHall Wrote:  

(09-02-2018 01:15 PM)JMU_71 Wrote:  Here’s another State take on the game. There’s some pretty good comments too.

https://www.backingthepack.com/2018/9/2/...n-football



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Gutless field goals is right.

aka... strategy. If the defense makes 1 stop in the last 6 minutes JMU takes the ball with a chance to win the game.

You don't win big games being cautious. NC State converted 11-16 on third downs and had only punted twice all game. It was the same cautious coaching that lost the championship game.

(09-03-2018 03:19 AM)JacksonHall Wrote:  

(09-02-2018 11:32 PM)jmu007 Wrote:  

(09-02-2018 10:25 PM)JacksonHall Wrote:  

(09-02-2018 01:15 PM)JMU_71 Wrote:  Here’s another State take on the game. There’s some pretty good comments too.

https://www.backingthepack.com/2018/9/2/...n-football



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Gutless field goals is right.

aka... strategy. If the defense makes 1 stop in the last 6 minutes JMU takes the ball with a chance to win the game.

You don't win big games being cautious. NC State converted 11-16 on third downs and had only punted twice all game. It was the same cautious coaching that lost the championship game.

Agree, it's an interesting point that most of us are overlooking while we praise this staff. Our lack of ability to score TDs in the red zone has cost us back to back games. With the RB and TE talent we have (+ Stapleton), there really is no excuse for it.

(09-03-2018 01:59 AM)BDKJMU Wrote:  

(09-02-2018 10:29 AM)Longhorn Wrote:  

(09-02-2018 10:05 AM)ciscopack Wrote:  

(09-02-2018 09:21 AM)#YEEHAWDUKES Wrote:  

(09-02-2018 06:56 AM)JMURocks Wrote:  A good thread to read for some perspective about how non-purple glasses viewed this game: https://247sports.com/college/north-caro...121279909/

I'm sure all this has been said by now, but

1) We were winning the game along the OLine and DLine. Very few teams we see (not even sure NDSU), will be able to handle our linemen this year. Our lines were faster and better conditioned than NC St was. Big props to Big John for that!

2) I was impressed how well we adjusted at halftime after getting toasted a few times on the midrange passing game. Obviously having even our 3rd or 4th CBs available could have flipped things.

3) NC St fans were classy, though the stadium didn't get nearly as loud as I expected. It didn't feel like noise was a factor at all, and our team was ready with hand signals to deal with communciation issues. NC St fans were VERY worried we were going to win at the end, and congratulated us afterward on a well fought game.

4) Really would have liked to see us go for it on the last FG. While I understand the "take the points" reasoning, if we had found a way to get in the endzone, it could have changed the whole game. After that point the pack was in eat the clock mode.

5) On our last drive, it seemed like we were thinking "just one more score" instead of two. Would have liked to see a few shots deep down the field there, since there was nothing to lose at that point. It felt like things were a bit conservative at the end given the score and time remaining.

6) Overall, very impressed with our team, and how we played and represented ourselves. We would be a respectable ACC team, this year! As the season goes on and this team gels, we are going to flat at demolish most teams.

7) There is a > 50% chance we see NDSU in Frisco. Don't think we will lose another game, and they likely won't drop more than one regulr season. Likely the 1 and 2 seeds for the playoffs this year.

NDSU plays 7 home games and 4 road games without an FBS team on the schedule. No way they lose more than 2 games so they’re pretty much guaranteed a top 2 seed and home field to Frisco.

You have a good team and should be proud of them! Many of them once played for UVA, GT, Pitt, etc. and they are not with you because they couldn't play at those places.....I've seen them play before. You got them because they could transfer there and play sooner and you have a good staff that obviously will be courted and the 10 year thing won't matter on bit. Win a championship this season and good luck!

1) We did lose 4 DL and 2 OL to the NFL and our back-ups aren't quite as athletic. We're slower and it showed.....those guys played last year but the 6 who left helped them a ton too. We're proud of our strength and conditioning staff but in that heat.....being bigger appeared to hurt some. I thought JMU looked fresher all game. Now....if we were playing Clemson...our fans and players automatically find more oxygen and back-up power....it's natural. You were playing what should be your toughest regular season game....it gives your fans and players more natural uuumpphh.

2) You adjusted well and we were missing a CB starter, a WR starter and 6'7" USC transfer TE starter too. He can't play until game 4.

3) Natural electricity flows better at night instead of 12 noon; it increases with each passing hour.....FSU, Clemson, Notre Dame, etc. get the full extent. If not for ESPNU, that is a 7PM start. We play at 12:30 PM this coming week too. Who is your next to the weakest team you play at home this year....are your fans into that game coming in as much as your top tier games? Maybe you don't have any competition in the regular season? NDS gets your attention! You have a good team.....the casual NCSU fan thought it was a cakewalk coming in and they are complaining instead of knowing how well you played.

4) I understand

5) I understand

6) I agree and I certainly hope we can get better too. If not....500 ball overall might be the route. I think we will. We'll be better than last year at LB, DB, TE, WR, as good at QB and worse at OL, RB and DL. The RB back-ups are young and we don't know what we have there. OL and DL must improve but we won't be better than last year no matter what (there). We ain't Alabama/Clemson with quality depth but we are getting better at it. That is our goal. The DBs looked soft but they are young and part of it is DC thinking....too easy to dink and dunk. Last year we could get out of position a little on the DL and close the gaps with athleticism. Keep supporting your good team!

7) That's too good....I'd love to win every game but to think....we have no competition is not exciting at all!!!!! 30% of our fans would be in the parking lot drinking during the games. Alabama, Clemson, tOSU...they can't think that or they will get their ass handed to them. The have to show us and play ball......we had Clemson beat the last 2 years but failed to beat them (FG misses when they won the title and turnover last season). Even UConn women BB get some competition.

Good Luck!!

You've expressed the same thought other NCST fans like to make in that JMU played harder because you team was our "Super Bowl". That's a mistake. Being JMU's toughest opponent does not make it a game where some "intangible" magic "uuummph" comes into play. Under the current coaching staff, JMU plays to win every game. Indeed, our coach was irritated post-game because he thought it was a game JMU should have won, and had JMU fielded 5 missing starters on D (including 2 All-Americans), its quite likely JMU would have won.

Thank your lucky stars for a superior QB and a couple excellent WRs, and good luck during the rest of the season. JMU's biggest games are in front of us, and NCST will only be remembered as one that got away.

Someone else claimed JMU was missing 5 starters on defense. Again, unless I am missing someone, it was at most 4- Robinson, Carter, Word, and Oliver (if you count the nickel as a starter- it is like a 12th starting position).

Were missing 1 All American- Robinson. Only other 1 from defense to make any AA list was Moreland (HERO & Stats).

Super Bowl???..."You were playing what should be your toughest regular season game."...and I said "should be". All of your FCS games are more important!!!

So many arm chair head coaches when we lose. The same thing happened after unc in 2016.

We have a mike Houston first. A losing streak.

(09-03-2018 04:58 AM)JMUSteeler Wrote:  

(09-03-2018 03:19 AM)JacksonHall Wrote:  

(09-02-2018 11:32 PM)jmu007 Wrote:  

(09-02-2018 10:25 PM)JacksonHall Wrote:  

(09-02-2018 01:15 PM)JMU_71 Wrote:  Here’s another State take on the game. There’s some pretty good comments too.

https://www.backingthepack.com/2018/9/2/...n-football



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Gutless field goals is right.

aka... strategy. If the defense makes 1 stop in the last 6 minutes JMU takes the ball with a chance to win the game.

You don't win big games being cautious. NC State converted 11-16 on third downs and had only punted twice all game. It was the same cautious coaching that lost the championship game.

Agree, it's an interesting point that most of us are overlooking while we praise this staff. Our lack of ability to score TDs in the red zone has cost us back to back games. With the RB and TE talent we have (+ Stapleton), there really is no excuse for it.

100% agree. I know we were solid in the 2016 championship game, but the single biggest play of that game was the blocked punt. That set the tone. I'm not saying we'd have lost without it, but that one play was the defining event. In addition, it's rare a team scores when they start inside their own five yard line.

(09-03-2018 08:21 AM)Potomac Wrote:  So many arm chair head coaches when we lose. The same thing happened after unc in 2016.

We have a mike Houston first. A losing streak.

I don't see anyone arm chair head-coaching, we've lost back to back games despite having a stellar D because we moved the ball up and down the field without scoring in the red zone. It's a fact, and I would imagine it's something that we'll need to get fixed before our next meaningful game. We may not get really tested again for a month.

(09-03-2018 01:59 AM)BDKJMU Wrote:  

(09-02-2018 10:29 AM)Longhorn Wrote:  

(09-02-2018 10:05 AM)ciscopack Wrote:  

(09-02-2018 09:21 AM)#YEEHAWDUKES Wrote:  

(09-02-2018 06:56 AM)JMURocks Wrote:  A good thread to read for some perspective about how non-purple glasses viewed this game: https://247sports.com/college/north-caro...121279909/

I'm sure all this has been said by now, but

1) We were winning the game along the OLine and DLine. Very few teams we see (not even sure NDSU), will be able to handle our linemen this year. Our lines were faster and better conditioned than NC St was. Big props to Big John for that!

2) I was impressed how well we adjusted at halftime after getting toasted a few times on the midrange passing game. Obviously having even our 3rd or 4th CBs available could have flipped things.

3) NC St fans were classy, though the stadium didn't get nearly as loud as I expected. It didn't feel like noise was a factor at all, and our team was ready with hand signals to deal with communciation issues. NC St fans were VERY worried we were going to win at the end, and congratulated us afterward on a well fought game.

4) Really would have liked to see us go for it on the last FG. While I understand the "take the points" reasoning, if we had found a way to get in the endzone, it could have changed the whole game. After that point the pack was in eat the clock mode.

5) On our last drive, it seemed like we were thinking "just one more score" instead of two. Would have liked to see a few shots deep down the field there, since there was nothing to lose at that point. It felt like things were a bit conservative at the end given the score and time remaining.

6) Overall, very impressed with our team, and how we played and represented ourselves. We would be a respectable ACC team, this year! As the season goes on and this team gels, we are going to flat at demolish most teams.

7) There is a > 50% chance we see NDSU in Frisco. Don't think we will lose another game, and they likely won't drop more than one regulr season. Likely the 1 and 2 seeds for the playoffs this year.

NDSU plays 7 home games and 4 road games without an FBS team on the schedule. No way they lose more than 2 games so they’re pretty much guaranteed a top 2 seed and home field to Frisco.

You have a good team and should be proud of them! Many of them once played for UVA, GT, Pitt, etc. and they are not with you because they couldn't play at those places.....I've seen them play before. You got them because they could transfer there and play sooner and you have a good staff that obviously will be courted and the 10 year thing won't matter on bit. Win a championship this season and good luck!

1) We did lose 4 DL and 2 OL to the NFL and our back-ups aren't quite as athletic. We're slower and it showed.....those guys played last year but the 6 who left helped them a ton too. We're proud of our strength and conditioning staff but in that heat.....being bigger appeared to hurt some. I thought JMU looked fresher all game. Now....if we were playing Clemson...our fans and players automatically find more oxygen and back-up power....it's natural. You were playing what should be your toughest regular season game....it gives your fans and players more natural uuumpphh.

2) You adjusted well and we were missing a CB starter, a WR starter and 6'7" USC transfer TE starter too. He can't play until game 4.

3) Natural electricity flows better at night instead of 12 noon; it increases with each passing hour.....FSU, Clemson, Notre Dame, etc. get the full extent. If not for ESPNU, that is a 7PM start. We play at 12:30 PM this coming week too. Who is your next to the weakest team you play at home this year....are your fans into that game coming in as much as your top tier games? Maybe you don't have any competition in the regular season? NDS gets your attention! You have a good team.....the casual NCSU fan thought it was a cakewalk coming in and they are complaining instead of knowing how well you played.

4) I understand

5) I understand

6) I agree and I certainly hope we can get better too. If not....500 ball overall might be the route. I think we will. We'll be better than last year at LB, DB, TE, WR, as good at QB and worse at OL, RB and DL. The RB back-ups are young and we don't know what we have there. OL and DL must improve but we won't be better than last year no matter what (there). We ain't Alabama/Clemson with quality depth but we are getting better at it. That is our goal. The DBs looked soft but they are young and part of it is DC thinking....too easy to dink and dunk. Last year we could get out of position a little on the DL and close the gaps with athleticism. Keep supporting your good team!

7) That's too good....I'd love to win every game but to think....we have no competition is not exciting at all!!!!! 30% of our fans would be in the parking lot drinking during the games. Alabama, Clemson, tOSU...they can't think that or they will get their ass handed to them. The have to show us and play ball......we had Clemson beat the last 2 years but failed to beat them (FG misses when they won the title and turnover last season). Even UConn women BB get some competition.

Good Luck!!

You've expressed the same thought other NCST fans like to make in that JMU played harder because you team was our "Super Bowl". That's a mistake. Being JMU's toughest opponent does not make it a game where some "intangible" magic "uuummph" comes into play. Under the current coaching staff, JMU plays to win every game. Indeed, our coach was irritated post-game because he thought it was a game JMU should have won, and had JMU fielded 5 missing starters on D (including 2 All-Americans), its quite likely JMU would have won.

Thank your lucky stars for a superior QB and a couple excellent WRs, and good luck during the rest of the season. JMU's biggest games are in front of us, and NCST will only be remembered as one that got away.

Someone else claimed JMU was missing 5 starters on defense. Again, unless I am missing someone, it was at most 4- Robinson, Carter, Word, and Oliver (if you count the nickel as a starter- it is like a 12th starting position).

Were missing 1 All American- Robinson. Only other 1 from defense to make any AA list was Moreland (HERO & Stats).

I think they are counting Tutt as a starter. While he likely would not start, he would see significant playing time. They guy was very talented prior to his injury.

(09-03-2018 08:28 AM)JMUSteeler Wrote:  

(09-03-2018 08:21 AM)Potomac Wrote:  So many arm chair head coaches when we lose. The same thing happened after unc in 2016.

We have a mike Houston first. A losing streak.

I don't see anyone arm chair head-coaching, we've lost back to back games despite having a stellar D because we moved the ball up and down the field without scoring in the red zone. It's a fact, and I would imagine it's something that we'll need to get fixed before our next meaningful game. We may not get really tested again for a month.

Agree. We will score at will against most of FCS. We have bogged down in the red zone our last two games. Defense did it’s job holding the last two offenses in check. Offense did not come through we they needed to do so. Not a knock on the coaches. It’s simply commentary not judgement.

(09-03-2018 10:04 AM)JMUNation Wrote:  

(09-03-2018 01:59 AM)BDKJMU Wrote:  

(09-02-2018 10:29 AM)Longhorn Wrote:  

(09-02-2018 10:05 AM)ciscopack Wrote:  

(09-02-2018 09:21 AM)#YEEHAWDUKES Wrote:  NDSU plays 7 home games and 4 road games without an FBS team on the schedule. No way they lose more than 2 games so they’re pretty much guaranteed a top 2 seed and home field to Frisco.

You have a good team and should be proud of them! Many of them once played for UVA, GT, Pitt, etc. and they are not with you because they couldn't play at those places.....I've seen them play before. You got them because they could transfer there and play sooner and you have a good staff that obviously will be courted and the 10 year thing won't matter on bit. Win a championship this season and good luck!

1) We did lose 4 DL and 2 OL to the NFL and our back-ups aren't quite as athletic. We're slower and it showed.....those guys played last year but the 6 who left helped them a ton too. We're proud of our strength and conditioning staff but in that heat.....being bigger appeared to hurt some. I thought JMU looked fresher all game. Now....if we were playing Clemson...our fans and players automatically find more oxygen and back-up power....it's natural. You were playing what should be your toughest regular season game....it gives your fans and players more natural uuumpphh.

2) You adjusted well and we were missing a CB starter, a WR starter and 6'7" USC transfer TE starter too. He can't play until game 4.

3) Natural electricity flows better at night instead of 12 noon; it increases with each passing hour.....FSU, Clemson, Notre Dame, etc. get the full extent. If not for ESPNU, that is a 7PM start. We play at 12:30 PM this coming week too. Who is your next to the weakest team you play at home this year....are your fans into that game coming in as much as your top tier games? Maybe you don't have any competition in the regular season? NDS gets your attention! You have a good team.....the casual NCSU fan thought it was a cakewalk coming in and they are complaining instead of knowing how well you played.

4) I understand

5) I understand

6) I agree and I certainly hope we can get better too. If not....500 ball overall might be the route. I think we will. We'll be better than last year at LB, DB, TE, WR, as good at QB and worse at OL, RB and DL. The RB back-ups are young and we don't know what we have there. OL and DL must improve but we won't be better than last year no matter what (there). We ain't Alabama/Clemson with quality depth but we are getting better at it. That is our goal. The DBs looked soft but they are young and part of it is DC thinking....too easy to dink and dunk. Last year we could get out of position a little on the DL and close the gaps with athleticism. Keep supporting your good team!

7) That's too good....I'd love to win every game but to think....we have no competition is not exciting at all!!!!! 30% of our fans would be in the parking lot drinking during the games. Alabama, Clemson, tOSU...they can't think that or they will get their ass handed to them. The have to show us and play ball......we had Clemson beat the last 2 years but failed to beat them (FG misses when they won the title and turnover last season). Even UConn women BB get some competition.

Good Luck!!

You've expressed the same thought other NCST fans like to make in that JMU played harder because you team was our "Super Bowl". That's a mistake. Being JMU's toughest opponent does not make it a game where some "intangible" magic "uuummph" comes into play. Under the current coaching staff, JMU plays to win every game. Indeed, our coach was irritated post-game because he thought it was a game JMU should have won, and had JMU fielded 5 missing starters on D (including 2 All-Americans), its quite likely JMU would have won.

Thank your lucky stars for a superior QB and a couple excellent WRs, and good luck during the rest of the season. JMU's biggest games are in front of us, and NCST will only be remembered as one that got away.

Someone else claimed JMU was missing 5 starters on defense. Again, unless I am missing someone, it was at most 4- Robinson, Carter, Word, and Oliver (if you count the nickel as a starter- it is like a 12th starting position).

Were missing 1 All American- Robinson. Only other 1 from defense to make any AA list was Moreland (HERO & Stats).

I think they are counting Tutt as a starter. While he likely would not start, he would see significant playing time. They guy was very talented prior to his injury.

Got it. (But you can’t coubt count 4 corners as starters).

(09-02-2018 09:20 PM)JMUNation Wrote:  

(09-01-2018 02:14 PM)DBJMU2006 Wrote:  Oh look, B.C. is beating UMass 48-7 halfway into the 3rd

UMass is another shining example of a FCS school that does not belong in FBS.

I think Appy and Marshall are better compatibles - UMASS's support at 1AA was not impressive. I remember going to games there seeing most of their stadium empty in in match ups between two team at the top of the CAA. I agree UMASS had decent 1AA success (although not their last 4 years at the 1AA level), but it was never at the gates.

(09-03-2018 12:35 PM)Dukester Wrote:  

(09-02-2018 09:20 PM)JMUNation Wrote:  

(09-01-2018 02:14 PM)DBJMU2006 Wrote:  Oh look, B.C. is beating UMass 48-7 halfway into the 3rd

UMass is another shining example of a FCS school that does not belong in FBS.

I think Appy and Marshall are better compatibles - UMASS's support at 1AA was not impressive. I remember going to games there seeing most of their stadium empty in in match ups between two team at the top of the CAA. I agree UMASS had decent 1AA success (although not their last 4 years at the 1AA level), but it was never at the gates.

UMass is like UConn’s little sister, a basketball first school that will never be a football power. They simply don’t have the culture or fan support to make football a big success. Conferences will measure/adopt them based on basketball, not football. That’s why the MAC didn’t want them if basketball wasn’t included.

(09-03-2018 03:19 AM)JacksonHall Wrote:  

(09-02-2018 11:32 PM)jmu007 Wrote:  

(09-02-2018 10:25 PM)JacksonHall Wrote:  

(09-02-2018 01:15 PM)JMU_71 Wrote:  Here’s another State take on the game. There’s some pretty good comments too.

https://www.backingthepack.com/2018/9/2/...n-football



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Gutless field goals is right.

aka... strategy. If the defense makes 1 stop in the last 6 minutes JMU takes the ball with a chance to win the game.

You don't win big games being cautious. NC State converted 11-16 on third downs and had only punted twice all game. It was the same cautious coaching that lost the championship game.

Actually, that is exactly how you win big games. Hang in there to the end and then have a chance to win. Come away with points on every red zone opportunity. Works in basketball and in football. Take the fumble out of the equation and we win the game.

Haven't read back through everything, but rewatching the game now I'm noticing the same thing I noticed in-game...we got A LOT of pressure on the QB. That's something we haven't done in games against good teams (especially FBS teams) in awhile. Doesn't hurt that we put a huge emphasis on stopping the run, but we got some sacks and put consistent pressure on Finley. If it wasn't for our secondary being banged up and Finley being so good, we probably would have come away with a couple INTs.

For those complaining about no vertical passing...the State secondary is as tall as all but one of our receivers. I agree at the end we could've taken some shots down the field, but the rest of the time we were way too successful at short-to-intermediate passes to take shots between a QB in his first JMU game and receivers who all but one (I think) were in their first college game way down the field. DiNucci started 15-15, went 23-27, and ran all over them...he earned his spot on Saturday. I think we'll see things open up as DiNucci and the receivers build confidence together. The O-line played better than I was expecting. DiNucci's sidearm when necessary was pretty awesome also.

O'Kelly is a beast. Had a couple awesome punts...one at the 1 and another that was fair caught at like the 8. Then there was the hit he laid on the returner that only had O'Kelly to beat. Love that he's not a punter that just kinda gets in the way of a returner. He lowered his shoulder and knocked the guy.

I think really the only thing I was disappointed in on Saturday was the redzone offense. We struggled, no doubt about that. Holding the NC State offense to 24 points was AWESOME...however, if I'm really nitpicking...giving up TD's with 18 seconds and 1:05 left in the halves was rough. At the end of the game it almost would have been better if our safety had let the WR go ahead and score on that broken coverage to give us more time to score and make a stop back in their territory. Either way, was a let down to not hold them out of the endzone with so little time left.

If a play or two goes differently, we win that game: empty handed pass/fumble on the 6 (that if it didn't hit off a shoulderpad would have started on inside the 10 or been recovered by JMU), can't punch it in on the 2, all three guys biting on a fake bubble screen on a crucial third down... This against a team that could very well end the season in the top 15-25 (#11 on Massey right now).

Might as well get on the conditioning bandwagon also...was very impressive with our defense being banged up to see us hang, and in many cases look better, than an ACC team.

A few additional comments from a couple State fans that a work with:
- Stapleton looks like a 1st rounder
- we looked like the better team on TV
- DiNucci coming out for a series killed our momentum

Also, sooooo glad my State coworker bought me tickets in the very top row on the press box side (opposite from most other JMU fans). 10 minutes in we were in the shade, which was still not, but not nearly what it was like in the sun. Still saw 3 people near us require medical attention in the stands.

(09-02-2018 09:20 PM)JMUNation Wrote:  

(09-01-2018 02:14 PM)DBJMU2006 Wrote:  Oh look, B.C. is beating UMass 48-7 halfway into the 3rd

UMass is another shining example of a FCS school that does not belong in FBS.

We should start a running list of games played by former fcs programs, good fcs programs or not, and paint it on the back of the scoreboard at BFS to show all of the JMUNation why JMU should seriously consider remaining fcs forever, to risky, we might lose a FBS game.

JMU is a shining example of a FCS school the does belong in FBS.

UMass will likely be playing in the AAC before JMU is so ready for FBS that JMU cautiously considers, for a decade, jumping straight to the NFL but ONLY IF JMU is certain JMU can win the Super Bowl every year because the fcs playoffs are straight up dope ya'll.

Also, in the 3rd qtr on 2nd down when State was on their 2 yard line (after the punt to the 1) and Finley was stepping back, Terrell (I think) was nearly around the OT, but tried to cut back to the inside instead of going around behind. If he had kept going he may have either gotten a safety or caught Finley completely off-guard and knocked it free with the possibility for a recovery for a TD.