(08-27-2018 11:54 AM)EigenEagle Wrote:  I wouldn't trust Hillary Clinton to run a lemonade stand, but I'll believe there's something to nail her to the wall with when I see it. She has left a trail of smoke everywhere she goes, but no one has been able to find the fire yet.

If she had orange hair and tiny hands, I bet Bueller and the gang of 17 could find the fire.

The only person who seems to be asking out loud the most pertinent question regarding some hypothetical Trump impeachment and removal from office is Jordan Peterson: Just what do you suppose the reaction will be from the millions of kool aid drinkers? The people who really believe in MAGA. The people who actually believe Trump is secretly playing chess while everybody else is playing checkers. The people who buy into the cult of personality of the office ... from the right wing. Do you think they're all just going to go quietly and accept what transpired? Given that the "alternatives" from team blue are increasingly out and out avowed socialists ... it may not be a good idea to keep stoking the fires of revolt from the populist-nationalist right. Do you want a FDR level off-the-reservation mad man wielding the levers of power to the same abusive levels FDR did?

(08-27-2018 11:43 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-27-2018 08:27 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  Some of the nutcases on here are still under the impression that Hillary will become president if Trump is booted. Its really quite precious.

Name them...with a link to their impression please.

Thanks.

https://www.newsweek.com/hillary-clinton...ost-686077

Newsweek had a theory...

(08-27-2018 09:36 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(08-27-2018 08:27 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  You will never get the votes in the senate to remove Trump. Some of the democrats are in heavily pro-Trump states.

Some of the nutcases on here are still under the impression that Hillary will become president if Trump is booted. Its really quite precious.

Who is under the impression that HRC would become President if DJT was convicted? Not I.

Conviction of Trump is unlikely. Even if the Dems take the House and manage to gain Senate control. Probably need a minimum of 16 Senate votes from GOP Senators to convict.

I think that IF impeachment is sent to the Senate, and the Senate even takes it up, that its odds on that every Democratic Senator votes for conviction if the evidence is there. Remember, 2020 is a FAR different Senate election cycle than 2018. And there are plenty of Republicans up for reelection in states where Trump isn't likely to get 50 percent of the vote (and they'd be running with Trump if Conviction fails). That being said, not sure any GOPers vote to convict, no matter if he killed Pope Francis on Fifth Avenue.

But back to the OP. Hillary has faced 1000000000x more scrutiny than Trump, has released all her financial records and her taxes, has testified before Congress, never taken the Fifth. Whatever mistakes HRC has made, and she's made them, weren't enough to warrant prosecution. So HRC went ahead and cooperated. DJT's? Who knows. But he certainly is acting like he can't withstand scrutiny.

Lets apply the same transparency to Trump that we have to Clinton, and then see where that information leads us.

And if Clinton broke the law (and did so deliberately, not incidentally) then let the chips fall where they may. She certainly was a sloppy campaigner, losing to Obama in the 2008 primary via sheer incompetence and losing the EC vote to Trump through bad luck, collusion, and bad political strategy. But no, we shouldn't even look at Clinton, unless Trump faces the same scrutiny FIRST. He's sitting in the Oval Office.

Forget Clinton shes only one, the Trump admin threatens the entire Washington, croney, establishment, get rich scam. Tom if he pulls this off we'll all be better off. Washington is in need of a reset top to bottom?

(08-27-2018 12:24 PM)ODU BLUE Wrote:  

(08-27-2018 09:36 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(08-27-2018 08:27 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  You will never get the votes in the senate to remove Trump. Some of the democrats are in heavily pro-Trump states.

Some of the nutcases on here are still under the impression that Hillary will become president if Trump is booted. Its really quite precious.

Who is under the impression that HRC would become President if DJT was convicted? Not I.

Conviction of Trump is unlikely. Even if the Dems take the House and manage to gain Senate control. Probably need a minimum of 16 Senate votes from GOP Senators to convict.

I think that IF impeachment is sent to the Senate, and the Senate even takes it up, that its odds on that every Democratic Senator votes for conviction if the evidence is there. Remember, 2020 is a FAR different Senate election cycle than 2018. And there are plenty of Republicans up for reelection in states where Trump isn't likely to get 50 percent of the vote (and they'd be running with Trump if Conviction fails). That being said, not sure any GOPers vote to convict, no matter if he killed Pope Francis on Fifth Avenue.

But back to the OP. Hillary has faced 1000000000x more scrutiny than Trump, has released all her financial records and her taxes, has testified before Congress, never taken the Fifth. Whatever mistakes HRC has made, and she's made them, weren't enough to warrant prosecution. So HRC went ahead and cooperated. DJT's? Who knows. But he certainly is acting like he can't withstand scrutiny.

Lets apply the same transparency to Trump that we have to Clinton, and then see where that information leads us.

And if Clinton broke the law (and did so deliberately, not incidentally) then let the chips fall where they may. She certainly was a sloppy campaigner, losing to Obama in the 2008 primary via sheer incompetence and losing the EC vote to Trump through bad luck, collusion, and bad political strategy. But no, we shouldn't even look at Clinton, unless Trump faces the same scrutiny FIRST. He's sitting in the Oval Office.

Forget Clinton shes only one, the Trump admin threatens the entire Washington, croney, establishment, get rich scam. Tom if he pulls this off we'll all be better off. Washington is in need of a reset top to bottom?

It is BAU in Washington. Agreed Washington needs a reset, but Trump has not and will not drain the swamp.

There's the rub. The Dems would block any pro-"Hillary prosecutors" in the senate conformation hearings.
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Really? ...and you think the Senate wouldn't use the Hairy Reed Bill? This would be the perfect opportunity for them to do so. Tit for Tat and all that.

I think with our state of our economy it would be the end of the Demoncraptic Socialist Party. Even many Demons would be infuriated that their incomes would be threatened.

Wait

What week is this? Rayciss, sexiss, Russia, obstruction, or we all gonna die week.

I think our fake outrage calender is off schedule again.

(08-27-2018 12:44 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Wait

What week is this? Rayciss, sexiss, Russia, obstruction, or we all gonna die week.

I think our fake outrage calender is off schedule again.

Yeppers, I used to use that as my to-do list. Thursday-Listen to MaxSin throw a tantrum yelling, "impeach foddy fie!"

(08-27-2018 08:27 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  You will never get the votes in the senate to remove Trump. Some of the democrats are in heavily pro-Trump states.

Some of the nutcases on here are still under the impression that Hillary will become president if Trump is booted. Its really quite precious.

Back in the day the number two on the ballot became VP but that hasn't been a thing for quite some time

It would be interesting/entertaining if Hillary were VP to Trump.

(08-27-2018 12:12 PM)gdunn Wrote:  

(08-27-2018 11:43 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-27-2018 08:27 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  Some of the nutcases on here are still under the impression that Hillary will become president if Trump is booted. Its really quite precious.

Name them...with a link to their impression please.

Thanks.

https://www.newsweek.com/hillary-clinton...ost-686077

Newsweek had a theory...

Not sure if you missed the important part, so I went back and bolded it.

(08-27-2018 02:53 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-27-2018 12:12 PM)gdunn Wrote:  

(08-27-2018 11:43 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-27-2018 08:27 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  Some of the nutcases on here are still under the impression that Hillary will become president if Trump is booted. Its really quite precious.

Name them...with a link to their impression please.

Thanks.

https://www.newsweek.com/hillary-clinton...ost-686077

Newsweek had a theory...

Not sure if you missed the important part, so I went back and bolded it.

Yea i noticed it after I posted the link. I don't have time to search it right now. Maybe tonight after we put the little one to bed. I'm thinking and I could be wrong a lefty posted that link first and was agreeing with it. Again I could be wrong. And we may be generalizing much like the poster last week stating Trump was racist like his supporters.

(08-27-2018 08:27 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  You will never get the votes in the senate to remove Trump. Some of the democrats are in heavily pro-Trump states.

Some of the nutcases on here are still under the impression that Hillary will become president if Trump is booted. Its really quite precious.

If that were to happen, God forbid, the "unofficial" white house would be the back stockroom at ABC Fine Wine and Spirits.

(08-27-2018 12:07 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  The only person who seems to be asking out loud the most pertinent question regarding some hypothetical Trump impeachment and removal from office is Jordan Peterson: Just what do you suppose the reaction will be from the millions of kool aid drinkers? The people who really believe in MAGA. The people who actually believe Trump is secretly playing chess while everybody else is playing checkers. The people who buy into the cult of personality of the office ... from the right wing. Do you think they're all just going to go quietly and accept what transpired? Given that the "alternatives" from team blue are increasingly out and out avowed socialists ... it may not be a good idea to keep stoking the fires of revolt from the populist-nationalist right. Do you want a FDR level off-the-reservation mad man wielding the levers of power to the same abusive levels FDR did?

We need 2 more strong parties that will break up the duopoly of the Ds and Rs. Libertarian Party could have made a break thru if Gary Johnson wouldn't have put in such buffoonish performances when the spotlight was on him. He set the LP back 10 years IMHO.

(08-27-2018 03:33 PM)miko33 Wrote:  

(08-27-2018 12:07 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  The only person who seems to be asking out loud the most pertinent question regarding some hypothetical Trump impeachment and removal from office is Jordan Peterson: Just what do you suppose the reaction will be from the millions of kool aid drinkers? The people who really believe in MAGA. The people who actually believe Trump is secretly playing chess while everybody else is playing checkers. The people who buy into the cult of personality of the office ... from the right wing. Do you think they're all just going to go quietly and accept what transpired? Given that the "alternatives" from team blue are increasingly out and out avowed socialists ... it may not be a good idea to keep stoking the fires of revolt from the populist-nationalist right. Do you want a FDR level off-the-reservation mad man wielding the levers of power to the same abusive levels FDR did?

We need 2 more strong parties that will break up the duopoly of the Ds and Rs. Libertarian Party could have made a break thru if Gary Johnson wouldn't have put in such buffoonish performances when the spotlight was on him. He set the LP back 10 years IMHO.

We have our third party now. Trump admin is not Republican. And it's certainly not the socialist democrat party.