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This will be a self fulfilled prophecy when the ASUN invites JMU, Delaware, Stony Brook, Albany, Jacksonville St maybe one or two other high FCS schools and all go FBS later. Liberty is already there and maybe UMass moves fb only.

Lipscomb to OVC, NJIT to AEC, Kennesaw to FBS, and UNA, UNF, and FGCU have direct paths to FBS.

Who said they will invite those schools? I see some schools in their footprint that could move.

Florida Tech recently gaining R2 status, and rapidly growing.
West Florida spending money on their facilities.
Columbus State and Augusta in Georgia looking to join D1.
West Georgia might come up.
Indiana, PA. mentioned that they could look at going D1.
Bellarmine is looking at D1.

Getting Florida Tech would get them an academics school.

The only way I see the Atlantic Sun going FBS is for them to invite 7-8 schools from Conference USA. For simplicity’s sake let’s give them C-USA East. Liberty pares down its future schedules to join, and then Kennesaw State and Florida Gulf Coast commit to being football members nine and ten. Stetson, Jacksonville, North Florida, and NJIT stay behind for all sports but football.

C-USA, down to seven, invites South Alabama, Georgia State, and Georgia Southern to get back to ten members.

The Sun Belt invites Jacksonville State and Eastern Kentucky from FCS, sending North Alabama and Lipscomb to the OVC. New Mexico State is brought back for football only. North Florida is brought on as a non-football member.

NJIT then finally gets the call from America East, effectIvely being paid to go away by the former C-USA members.

(08-27-2018 02:49 AM)NoDak Wrote:  http://www.timesdaily.com/sports/college...2525e.html

This will be a self fulfilled prophecy when the ASUN invites JMU, Delaware, Stony Brook, Albany, Jacksonville St maybe one or two other high FCS schools and all go FBS later. Liberty is already there and maybe UMass moves fb only.

Lipscomb to OVC, NJIT to AEC, Kennesaw to FBS, and UNA, UNF, and FGCU have direct paths to FBS.

(08-27-2018 03:03 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  Who said they will invite those schools? I see some schools in their footprint that could move.

Florida Tech recently gaining R2 status, and rapidly growing.
West Florida spending money on their facilities.
Columbus State and Augusta in Georgia looking to join D1.
West Georgia might come up.
Indiana, PA. mentioned that they could look at going D1.
Bellarmine is looking at D1.

Getting Florida Tech would get them an academics school.

Boy, you two are sure a couple of peas in a pod.

How do we go to FBS from a newspaper article telling North Alabama fans how the ASun commissioner feels about the addition of UNA.

Yeah, it's nice to dream about playing FBS games in Florence one day, but I dont think it's in the cards anytime soon.

And I dont think the ASun will be FBS, or football at all.

But they may make a deal with a FBS football conference like they did with the Big South. If you are in the ASun, you want FBS, you would have an automatic FBS home in whatever conference for football only.

(08-27-2018 09:09 AM)lion1983 Wrote:  How do we go to FBS from a newspaper article telling North Alabama fans how the ASun commissioner feels about the addition of UNA.

Yeah, it's nice to dream about playing FBS games in Florence one day, but I dont think it's in the cards anytime soon.

And I dont think the ASun will be FBS, or football at all.

But they may make a deal with a FBS football conference like they did with the Big South. If you are in the ASun, you want FBS, you would have an automatic FBS home in whatever conference for football only.

NoDak is trying to shove his wild, baseless predictions down everyone's throats here in his last few days on the board.

This looks like all corporate commissioner marketing talk.

That being said, the one school that I've long been bullish on is FGCU. I don't know if it's going to add football or not. However, even only from a basketball standpoint, that's a fast-growing school in an even faster-growing and affluent market with no direct in-market competition for Division I college sports. (Granted, there's a lot of longer distance TV competition from Florida, FSU and Miami.) The fact that it's not in a better conference situation than the current incarnation of the A-Sun is a significant market disconnect. Someone that is considered to be at least a major basketball conference (e.g. the A-10, AAC, etc.) would be well-advised to consider adding them regardless of their football situation. I know that people will bring up geographic distance, but that hasn't shied leagues away from adding schools in the Miami/Fort Lauderdale area.

(08-27-2018 02:49 AM)NoDak Wrote:  http://www.timesdaily.com/sports/college...2525e.html

This will be a self fulfilled prophecy when the ASUN invites JMU, Delaware, Stony Brook, Albany, Jacksonville St maybe one or two other high FCS schools and all go FBS later. Liberty is already there and maybe UMass moves fb only.

Lipscomb to OVC, NJIT to AEC, Kennesaw to FBS, and UNA, UNF, and FGCU have direct paths to FBS.

UAlbany might accept that invite for football only (although they'd have to build the other half of their stadium, which they did plan out) but they wouldn't accept that invite for all sports. America East is a great league for them, they can get through that conference tournament a lot, it's focused on cost containment, they have regional rivalries with Vermont and Binghamton, and a lot of the other members are peer institutions.

(08-27-2018 05:40 AM)chargeradio Wrote:  The only way I see the Atlantic Sun going FBS is for them to invite 7-8 schools from Conference USA. For simplicity’s sake let’s give them C-USA East. Liberty pares down its future schedules to join, and then Kennesaw State and Florida Gulf Coast commit to being football members nine and ten. Stetson, Jacksonville, North Florida, and NJIT stay behind for all sports but football.

C-USA, down to seven, invites South Alabama, Georgia State, and Georgia Southern to get back to ten members.

The Sun Belt invites Jacksonville State and Eastern Kentucky from FCS, sending North Alabama and Lipscomb to the OVC. New Mexico State is brought back for football only. North Florida is brought on as a non-football member.

NJIT then finally gets the call from America East, effectIvely being paid to go away by the former C-USA members.

Why would CUSA-E want to do this? We are talking about the A-Sun right? Not the A10?

(08-27-2018 09:26 AM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  

(08-27-2018 09:09 AM)lion1983 Wrote:  How do we go to FBS from a newspaper article telling North Alabama fans how the ASun commissioner feels about the addition of UNA.

Yeah, it's nice to dream about playing FBS games in Florence one day, but I dont think it's in the cards anytime soon.

And I dont think the ASun will be FBS, or football at all.

But they may make a deal with a FBS football conference like they did with the Big South. If you are in the ASun, you want FBS, you would have an automatic FBS home in whatever conference for football only.

NoDak is trying to shove his wild, baseless predictions down everyone's throats here in his last few days on the board.

This kind of post proves this board isn’t open to true realignment talk.

The was a serious post about how major FCS schools can move to FBS as a group (using the WAC exemption), but it is almost universally derailed as baseless. All those FCS schools want FBS but on their academic terms.

(08-27-2018 10:32 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(08-27-2018 05:40 AM)chargeradio Wrote:  The only way I see the Atlantic Sun going FBS is for them to invite 7-8 schools from Conference USA. For simplicity’s sake let’s give them C-USA East. Liberty pares down its future schedules to join, and then Kennesaw State and Florida Gulf Coast commit to being football members nine and ten. Stetson, Jacksonville, North Florida, and NJIT stay behind for all sports but football.

C-USA, down to seven, invites South Alabama, Georgia State, and Georgia Southern to get back to ten members.

The Sun Belt invites Jacksonville State and Eastern Kentucky from FCS, sending North Alabama and Lipscomb to the OVC. New Mexico State is brought back for football only. North Florida is brought on as a non-football member.

NJIT then finally gets the call from America East, effectIvely being paid to go away by the former C-USA members.

Why would CUSA-E want to do this? We are talking about the A-Sun right? Not the A10?

Notice I didn’t mention a single CUSA school, as any move would lose them major dollars with CFP and exit fees.

(08-27-2018 10:34 AM)NoDak Wrote:  

(08-27-2018 09:26 AM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  

(08-27-2018 09:09 AM)lion1983 Wrote:  How do we go to FBS from a newspaper article telling North Alabama fans how the ASun commissioner feels about the addition of UNA.

Yeah, it's nice to dream about playing FBS games in Florence one day, but I dont think it's in the cards anytime soon.

And I dont think the ASun will be FBS, or football at all.

But they may make a deal with a FBS football conference like they did with the Big South. If you are in the ASun, you want FBS, you would have an automatic FBS home in whatever conference for football only.

NoDak is trying to shove his wild, baseless predictions down everyone's throats here in his last few days on the board.

This kind of post proves this board isn’t open to true realignment talk.

The was a serious post about how major FCS schools can move to FBS as a group (using the WAC exemption), but it is almost universally derailed as baseless. All those FCS schools want FBS but on their academic terms.

No, it was you literally saying they will move up in the manner you described. There's a difference between that and discussing it as a possibility.

(08-27-2018 10:41 AM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  

(08-27-2018 10:34 AM)NoDak Wrote:  

(08-27-2018 09:26 AM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  

(08-27-2018 09:09 AM)lion1983 Wrote:  How do we go to FBS from a newspaper article telling North Alabama fans how the ASun commissioner feels about the addition of UNA.

Yeah, it's nice to dream about playing FBS games in Florence one day, but I dont think it's in the cards anytime soon.

And I dont think the ASun will be FBS, or football at all.

But they may make a deal with a FBS football conference like they did with the Big South. If you are in the ASun, you want FBS, you would have an automatic FBS home in whatever conference for football only.

NoDak is trying to shove his wild, baseless predictions down everyone's throats here in his last few days on the board.

This kind of post proves this board isn’t open to true realignment talk.

The was a serious post about how major FCS schools can move to FBS as a group (using the WAC exemption), but it is almost universally derailed as baseless. All those FCS schools want FBS but on their academic terms.

No, it was you literally saying they will move up in the manner you described. There's a difference between that and discussing it as a possibility.

So take it as a possibility and discuss. But you won’t do that ever.

Stony Brook just put out a release in July that contains all their needed facility plans and extra women’s teams for FBS but doesn’t actually say FBS. Stony Brook isn’t getting a CUSA bid. Delaware is giving its fb stadium a massive renovation. Those are the schools that JMU wants to associate with, not the Belt.

When there is an FBS will, there is a way.

(08-27-2018 10:34 AM)NoDak Wrote:  

(08-27-2018 09:26 AM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  

(08-27-2018 09:09 AM)lion1983 Wrote:  How do we go to FBS from a newspaper article telling North Alabama fans how the ASun commissioner feels about the addition of UNA.

Yeah, it's nice to dream about playing FBS games in Florence one day, but I dont think it's in the cards anytime soon.

And I dont think the ASun will be FBS, or football at all.

But they may make a deal with a FBS football conference like they did with the Big South. If you are in the ASun, you want FBS, you would have an automatic FBS home in whatever conference for football only.

NoDak is trying to shove his wild, baseless predictions down everyone's throats here in his last few days on the board.

This kind of post proves this board isn’t open to true realignment talk.

The was a serious post about how major FCS schools can move to FBS as a group (using the WAC exemption), but it is almost universally derailed as baseless. All those FCS schools want FBS but on their academic terms.

Okay, say the ASun and the WAC make some kind of a deal, at the moment, NMSU is the only WAC FBS program, Liberty the only ASun FBS program. Say UNA, KSU, North Florida, and FGCU all decided to move to FBS. That's 6 schools that are in a football only conference. I dont know what the rules are, but dont seem likely that the NCAA will allow such a collaboration when the namesake league only has 1 of their own in the league. Even if you could pull in UTRGV and Army, UMass and JMU, I dont think the NCAA letting it happen.

Maybe, a group of these schools from the ASun, A10 and JMU and Army could buy out the WAC from the FBS rights, but I dont know the rules on that either. And I put Army in there just because of name recognition, that probably wouldn't happen either.

(08-27-2018 11:51 AM)lion1983 Wrote:  

(08-27-2018 10:34 AM)NoDak Wrote:  

(08-27-2018 09:26 AM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  

(08-27-2018 09:09 AM)lion1983 Wrote:  How do we go to FBS from a newspaper article telling North Alabama fans how the ASun commissioner feels about the addition of UNA.

Yeah, it's nice to dream about playing FBS games in Florence one day, but I dont think it's in the cards anytime soon.

And I dont think the ASun will be FBS, or football at all.

But they may make a deal with a FBS football conference like they did with the Big South. If you are in the ASun, you want FBS, you would have an automatic FBS home in whatever conference for football only.

NoDak is trying to shove his wild, baseless predictions down everyone's throats here in his last few days on the board.

This kind of post proves this board isn’t open to true realignment talk.

The was a serious post about how major FCS schools can move to FBS as a group (using the WAC exemption), but it is almost universally derailed as baseless. All those FCS schools want FBS but on their academic terms.

Okay, say the ASun and the WAC make some kind of a deal, at the moment, NMSU is the only WAC FBS program, Liberty the only ASun FBS program. Say UNA, KSU, North Florida, and FGCU all decided to move to FBS. That's 6 schools that are in a football only conference. I dont know what the rules are, but dont seem likely that the NCAA will allow such a collaboration when the namesake league only has 1 of their own in the league. Even if you could pull in UTRGV and Army, UMass and JMU, I dont think the NCAA letting it happen.

Maybe, a group of these schools from the ASun, A10 and JMU and Army could buy out the WAC from the FBS rights, but I dont know the rules on that either. And I put Army in there just because of name recognition, that probably wouldn't happen either.

The four CAA FCS members are acting like FBS is in their future when there are no G5 openings. A realigned ASUN is their best option to get to FBS. UNA, UNF and FGCU have no bearing on that, but would support that kind of action for years down the road. The WAC has a mechanism to go FBS without costing a transition fortune like Liberty.

(08-27-2018 12:00 PM)NoDak Wrote:  

(08-27-2018 11:51 AM)lion1983 Wrote:  

(08-27-2018 10:34 AM)NoDak Wrote:  

(08-27-2018 09:26 AM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  

(08-27-2018 09:09 AM)lion1983 Wrote:  How do we go to FBS from a newspaper article telling North Alabama fans how the ASun commissioner feels about the addition of UNA.

Yeah, it's nice to dream about playing FBS games in Florence one day, but I dont think it's in the cards anytime soon.

And I dont think the ASun will be FBS, or football at all.

But they may make a deal with a FBS football conference like they did with the Big South. If you are in the ASun, you want FBS, you would have an automatic FBS home in whatever conference for football only.

NoDak is trying to shove his wild, baseless predictions down everyone's throats here in his last few days on the board.

This kind of post proves this board isn’t open to true realignment talk.

The was a serious post about how major FCS schools can move to FBS as a group (using the WAC exemption), but it is almost universally derailed as baseless. All those FCS schools want FBS but on their academic terms.

Okay, say the ASun and the WAC make some kind of a deal, at the moment, NMSU is the only WAC FBS program, Liberty the only ASun FBS program. Say UNA, KSU, North Florida, and FGCU all decided to move to FBS. That's 6 schools that are in a football only conference. I dont know what the rules are, but dont seem likely that the NCAA will allow such a collaboration when the namesake league only has 1 of their own in the league. Even if you could pull in UTRGV and Army, UMass and JMU, I dont think the NCAA letting it happen.

Maybe, a group of these schools from the ASun, A10 and JMU and Army could buy out the WAC from the FBS rights, but I dont know the rules on that either. And I put Army in there just because of name recognition, that probably wouldn't happen either.

The four CAA FCS members are acting like FBS is in their future when there are no G5 openings. A realigned ASUN is their best option to get to FBS. UNA, UNF and FGCU have no bearing on that, but would support that kind of action for years down the road. The WAC has a mechanism to go FBS without costing a transition fortune like Liberty.

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During the Press Conference in joining the ASUN President Falwell Mention progressive in just about every sentence.

What Falwell said in his closing remarks in the Press Conference was what caught my attention.

In talking about the ASUN and especially the Commissioner he said, “Open to ideals outside of the box, creative and innovative that may come to fruition and take us to a higher level.”

What do all think he was possibly referring to in that last sentence?

(08-27-2018 02:13 PM)North Ala Supporter Wrote:  

(08-27-2018 12:00 PM)NoDak Wrote:  

(08-27-2018 11:51 AM)lion1983 Wrote:  

(08-27-2018 10:34 AM)NoDak Wrote:  

(08-27-2018 09:26 AM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  NoDak is trying to shove his wild, baseless predictions down everyone's throats here in his last few days on the board.

This kind of post proves this board isn’t open to true realignment talk.

The was a serious post about how major FCS schools can move to FBS as a group (using the WAC exemption), but it is almost universally derailed as baseless. All those FCS schools want FBS but on their academic terms.

Okay, say the ASun and the WAC make some kind of a deal, at the moment, NMSU is the only WAC FBS program, Liberty the only ASun FBS program. Say UNA, KSU, North Florida, and FGCU all decided to move to FBS. That's 6 schools that are in a football only conference. I dont know what the rules are, but dont seem likely that the NCAA will allow such a collaboration when the namesake league only has 1 of their own in the league. Even if you could pull in UTRGV and Army, UMass and JMU, I dont think the NCAA letting it happen.

Maybe, a group of these schools from the ASun, A10 and JMU and Army could buy out the WAC from the FBS rights, but I dont know the rules on that either. And I put Army in there just because of name recognition, that probably wouldn't happen either.

The four CAA FCS members are acting like FBS is in their future when there are no G5 openings. A realigned ASUN is their best option to get to FBS. UNA, UNF and FGCU have no bearing on that, but would support that kind of action for years down the road. The WAC has a mechanism to go FBS without costing a transition fortune like Liberty.

expand?
During the Press Conference in joining the ASUN President Falwell Mention progressive in just about every sentence.

What Falwell said in his closing remarks in the Press Conference was what caught my attention.

In talking about the ASUN and especially the Commissioner he said, “Open to ideals outside of the box, creative and innovative that may come to fruition and take us to a higher level.”

What do all think he was possibly referring to in that last sentence?

Expand and contract multiple schools. But that is outside of the scope of most posters on this board who only allow talk of one or two schools, not several schools. The ASUN commish is a crackpot according to this board as most insist the ASUN will be a bottom feeder conference forever. Liberty, Kennesaw St, UNF and FGCU are too ambitious just to continually add D2 schools like they have done for the last 20 + years and they won’t stand for it anymore unless they have no options. Liberty got out of the Big South and UNA didn’t go to the OVC as those two conferences will become the southeast’s bottom feeders now.

To late....the ASUN would have to add football for it to stand out!!

Asun will never become an FBS conference. They have no history at the top level. Only the WAC, Southern, Ivy, MVC, Big West, SWC and Southland had history. That does not include a couple of Patriot, a Pioneer, Idaho, Montana, East Tennessee State, Tennessee State and so forth. I do not think WAC will gie it to the ASun. Sorry. Any A-sun schools want FBS, they have to wait for an invite from the SBC or C-USA.

(08-27-2018 03:39 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  Asun will never become an FBS conference. They have no history at the top level. Only the WAC, Southern, Ivy, MVC, Big West, SWC and Southland had history. That does not include a couple of Patriot, a Pioneer, Idaho, Montana, East Tennessee State, Tennessee State and so forth. I do not think WAC will gie it to the ASun. Sorry. Any A-sun schools want FBS, they have to wait for an invite from the SBC or C-USA.

So the ASUN will be innovative by upgrading all the DII schools you listed? Such a joke. Liberty didn’t move to the ASUN for that, which would be worse than what they left. Conference moves all almost always about improving your lot. Exceptions are when cash is so tight that improvement is only possible by retrenchment or the academic head purposely wants a lower level.

The Sun Belt and CUSA never had an FBS history until they started one. The ASUN could do the same.