SJWs at UNC tear down 100 year old statue. Such law-abiding citizens.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/silent-sam-...018-08-20/

While I agree with the sentiments of these students, I would prefer that they give the legal system a chance to act before taking to civil disobedience. We don’t want to give the racist defenders of these monuments the opportunity to falsely claim any sort of moral high ground since they have no right to any.

Cool. Now go back and watch the facebook videos arrest, charge, and prosecute every last one of the people involved. I'm assuming most are in college and it's time they get an education it what happens when they vandalize property. Expel the lot of them.

(08-21-2018 07:16 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  Cool. Now go back and watch the facebook videos arrest, charge, and prosecute every last one of the people involved. I'm assuming most are in college and it's time they get an education it what happens when they vandalize property. Expel the lot of them.

Absolutely

They need to explain to these children that there are consequences.

Imagine what they would do to someone who tore down an MLK statue because he cheated on his wife and was a communist and didn't think the university should be extolling those values.

The government needs to come out and label antifa a terrorist organization.

Pulling down statues is still a thing?

I always note the irony of a group of young Democrats tearing down statues of dead Democrats.

Neither here nor there but Robert E. Lee owned no slaves and was opposed to slavery on moral grounds.

General Grant owned slaves and looked at blacks as inferior.

Now tell me who is the real hero here and who is the real villain ?

Tearing down statues is so yesterday, why haven't they laser focused on this weeks news cycle?

(08-21-2018 08:47 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  Pulling down statues is still a thing?

Students at Chapel Hill are a little slow.

Democrats mad about statues of Democrats, hilarious.

I think it wiser, moreover, not to keep open the sores of war but to follow the examples of those nations who endeavored to obliterate the marks of civil strife, to commit to oblivion the feelings engendered.

- Robert E. Lee

(08-21-2018 11:06 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  Democrats mad about statues of Democrats, hilarious.

Thought the very same thing...

(08-21-2018 12:10 PM)Chappy Wrote:  I think it wiser, moreover, not to keep open the sores of war but to follow the examples of those nations who endeavored to obliterate the marks of civil strife, to commit to oblivion the feelings engendered.

- Robert E. Lee

Agree and disagree in this case. This was not a statue memorializing slavery, but memorializing the more than 1800 UNC students who left school to fight.

"It is not for us to question the decrees of Providence. Let us be grateful that our struggle, keeping alive the grand principle of local self-government and State sovereignty has thus far held the American people from that consolidated despotism whose name, whether Republic or Empire, is of but little importance as compared with its rule." - from Julian Carr's dedication speech at the unveiling of Silent Sam

(08-21-2018 12:32 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(08-21-2018 12:10 PM)Chappy Wrote:  I think it wiser, moreover, not to keep open the sores of war but to follow the examples of those nations who endeavored to obliterate the marks of civil strife, to commit to oblivion the feelings engendered.

- Robert E. Lee

Agree and disagree in this case. This was not a statue memorializing slavery, but memorializing the more than 1800 UNC students who left school to fight.

"It is not for us to question the decrees of Providence. Let us be grateful that our struggle, keeping alive the grand principle of local self-government and State sovereignty has thus far held the American people from that consolidated despotism whose name, whether Republic or Empire, is of but little importance as compared with its rule." - from Julian Carr's dedication speech at the unveiling of Silent Sam

First of all, let me state that I absolutely do not approve of the method in which this memorial was removed. Perps should be prosecuted.

But the context of my above quote from Robert E. Lee is his explaining why he was not going to help with a memorial at Gettysburg.

On a personal level, I would be fine with the current memorials being moved to cemeteries and museums rather than destroyed, but I do agree with Gen. Lee's sentiment that these memorials - in many cases - just keep the sores open.

(08-21-2018 12:39 PM)Chappy Wrote:  

(08-21-2018 12:32 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(08-21-2018 12:10 PM)Chappy Wrote:  I think it wiser, moreover, not to keep open the sores of war but to follow the examples of those nations who endeavored to obliterate the marks of civil strife, to commit to oblivion the feelings engendered.

- Robert E. Lee

Agree and disagree in this case. This was not a statue memorializing slavery, but memorializing the more than 1800 UNC students who left school to fight.

"It is not for us to question the decrees of Providence. Let us be grateful that our struggle, keeping alive the grand principle of local self-government and State sovereignty has thus far held the American people from that consolidated despotism whose name, whether Republic or Empire, is of but little importance as compared with its rule." - from Julian Carr's dedication speech at the unveiling of Silent Sam

First of all, let me state that I absolutely do not approve of the method in which this memorial was removed. Perps should be prosecuted.

But the context of my above quote from Robert E. Lee is his explaining why he was not going to help with a memorial at Gettysburg.

On a personal level, I would be fine with the current memorials being moved to cemeteries and museums rather than destroyed, but I do agree with Gen. Lee's sentiment that these memorials - in many cases - just keep the sores open.

I'd wager that not a half dozen of the group that tore the statue down knew anything about it. The sores are only open because certain groups want them open.

That statue stood for over 100 years . If individuals felt that strongly about it, perhaps they should have chosen a school that didn't send 1800 students to fight for the Confederacy.

(08-21-2018 12:10 PM)Chappy Wrote:  I think it wiser, moreover, not to keep open the sores of war but to follow the examples of those nations who endeavored to obliterate the marks of civil strife, to commit to oblivion the feelings engendered.

- Robert E. Lee

WHAT? Speak English General.

(08-21-2018 12:43 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(08-21-2018 12:39 PM)Chappy Wrote:  

(08-21-2018 12:32 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(08-21-2018 12:10 PM)Chappy Wrote:  I think it wiser, moreover, not to keep open the sores of war but to follow the examples of those nations who endeavored to obliterate the marks of civil strife, to commit to oblivion the feelings engendered.

- Robert E. Lee

Agree and disagree in this case. This was not a statue memorializing slavery, but memorializing the more than 1800 UNC students who left school to fight.

"It is not for us to question the decrees of Providence. Let us be grateful that our struggle, keeping alive the grand principle of local self-government and State sovereignty has thus far held the American people from that consolidated despotism whose name, whether Republic or Empire, is of but little importance as compared with its rule." - from Julian Carr's dedication speech at the unveiling of Silent Sam

First of all, let me state that I absolutely do not approve of the method in which this memorial was removed. Perps should be prosecuted.

But the context of my above quote from Robert E. Lee is his explaining why he was not going to help with a memorial at Gettysburg.

On a personal level, I would be fine with the current memorials being moved to cemeteries and museums rather than destroyed, but I do agree with Gen. Lee's sentiment that these memorials - in many cases - just keep the sores open.

I'd wager that not a half dozen of the group that tore the statue down knew anything about it. The sores are only open because certain groups want them open.

That statue stood for over 100 years . If individuals felt that strongly about it, perhaps they should have chosen a school that didn't send 1800 students to fight for the Confederacy.

Just wait until they figure out Tar Heel and who said "God bless the Tar Heel boys"



dummies

They just tore down the headstones of hundreds of men.

The bodies of the Confederate dead didn't come home.

Families had no body.

Soldiers had no graves.

A monument like this one serves as a mass headstone for bodies that never came home.

My home town has one to this day.

It isn't a statue of some general, or other Confederate "hero".

It is the only headstone those men will ever have.