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OT: JMU Offering COA in All Sports?
Based on the JMU and AnyGivenSaturday message boards, it looks like JMU is offering (will be offering) COA for all sports. If true ...

I have no idea how they are affording this. I wouldn't be surprised is a sport or two gets dropped.

I guess that means JMU will be leaving FCS - and the CAA. Not sure that is a wise move for them. I don't think ODU is better off for making their move and the swim upstream for the lower-level FBS schools gets tougher every year.

Personally, I am comfortable with our current direction but the conversation will begin again.
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RE: OT: JMU Offering COA in All Sports?
(08-03-2018 10:44 AM)tribeinexile Wrote:  Based on the JMU and AnyGivenSaturday message boards, it looks like JMU is offering (will be offering) COA for all sports. If true ...

I have no idea how they are affording this. I wouldn't be surprised is a sport or two gets dropped.

I guess that means JMU will be leaving FCS - and the CAA. Not sure that is a wise move for them. I don't think ODU is better off for making their move and the swim upstream for the lower-level FBS schools gets tougher every year.

Personally, I am comfortable with our current direction but the conversation will begin again.

Had understood this was happening, but I haven't heard anything official yet.

Unless I'm missing something--and I could be--I don't see why this would mandate their leaving the CAA. Everything I hear is that they want to move up to FBS, but they're going to be patient. Their view is that they have an improving academic brand, and they don't want to mess that up with the wrong conference affiliation.
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RE: OT: JMU Offering COA in All Sports?
(08-03-2018 10:44 AM)tribeinexile Wrote:  Based on the JMU and AnyGivenSaturday message boards, it looks like JMU is offering (will be offering) COA for all sports. If true ...

I have no idea how they are affording this. I wouldn't be surprised is a sport or two gets dropped.

I guess that means JMU will be leaving FCS - and the CAA. Not sure that is a wise move for them. I don't think ODU is better off for making their move and the swim upstream for the lower-level FBS schools gets tougher every year.

Personally, I am comfortable with our current direction but the conversation will begin again.

W&M to offer COA as well.

https://twitter.com/RTDjohnoconnor/statu...5357179904

Guess that means W&M is leaving CAA to be FBS too. 03-lmfao
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RE: OT: JMU Offering COA in All Sports?
They are indeed going to offer COA for all sports starting next year. It could be a prelude to being ready, should an FBS conference come knocking, but there is none of that talk going on, right now, as far as I have been told.
The biggest advantage for them, at present, is the ability to recruit on the highest level in football and to be able to offer FBS transfers a COA, if they come to JMU.

Unless other CAA and regional FB schools start offering COAs, I don't see any reason for us to rush in. We weren't going to be able to recruit the same wide swath of FB athletes that they can, COA or not.

We are, to date, only doing COAs for MBB and WBB.
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RE: OT: JMU Offering COA in All Sports?
(08-03-2018 11:02 AM)JMU08 Wrote:  
(08-03-2018 10:44 AM)tribeinexile Wrote:  Based on the JMU and AnyGivenSaturday message boards, it looks like JMU is offering (will be offering) COA for all sports. If true ...

I have no idea how they are affording this. I wouldn't be surprised is a sport or two gets dropped.

I guess that means JMU will be leaving FCS - and the CAA. Not sure that is a wise move for them. I don't think ODU is better off for making their move and the swim upstream for the lower-level FBS schools gets tougher every year.

Personally, I am comfortable with our current direction but the conversation will begin again.

W&M to offer COA as well.

https://twitter.com/RTDjohnoconnor/statu...5357179904

Guess that means W&M is leaving CAA to be FBS too. 03-lmfao

The BBall CoA is old news which is what the Twitter from O'Connor references
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RE: OT: JMU Offering COA in All Sports?
Also, ODU has been benefited by its move. One need only look at the difference in rhetoric surrounding JMU and ODU when talking to NCSU fans. They were discussing ODU's talent, etc., and thinking they'd win by 10 or so going into that one last year. This year (playing JMU), they think they'll win by 30 and the coach should be fired if he loses that game.

Reality, as we all know, is that JMU would likely eat ODU's lunch last year and this year, but perception is something wholly different. And perception is really what matters when thinking of a move between levels or conferences. Would WM want to go 13-0 every year in D-III? I hope not. I'd much rather win 6-7 in FCS. Winning actually isn't everything in this consideration, IMO.
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RE: OT: JMU Offering COA in All Sports?
(08-03-2018 11:11 AM)tribe_pride Wrote:  
(08-03-2018 11:02 AM)JMU08 Wrote:  
(08-03-2018 10:44 AM)tribeinexile Wrote:  Based on the JMU and AnyGivenSaturday message boards, it looks like JMU is offering (will be offering) COA for all sports. If true ...

I have no idea how they are affording this. I wouldn't be surprised is a sport or two gets dropped.

I guess that means JMU will be leaving FCS - and the CAA. Not sure that is a wise move for them. I don't think ODU is better off for making their move and the swim upstream for the lower-level FBS schools gets tougher every year.

Personally, I am comfortable with our current direction but the conversation will begin again.

W&M to offer COA as well.

https://twitter.com/RTDjohnoconnor/statu...5357179904

Guess that means W&M is leaving CAA to be FBS too. 03-lmfao

The BBall CoA is old news which is what the Twitter from O'Connor references

Slippery slope. Just trying to validate that CoA doesn't imply conference alignment. Also, JMU won't be cutting any sports as cutting women's would have title IX ramifications and cutting men's would put us under D1 eligibility. Where this money is coming from though, remains a mystery.
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RE: OT: JMU Offering COA in All Sports?
(08-03-2018 11:02 AM)JMU08 Wrote:  
(08-03-2018 10:44 AM)tribeinexile Wrote:  Based on the JMU and AnyGivenSaturday message boards, it looks like JMU is offering (will be offering) COA for all sports. If true ...

I have no idea how they are affording this. I wouldn't be surprised is a sport or two gets dropped.

I guess that means JMU will be leaving FCS - and the CAA. Not sure that is a wise move for them. I don't think ODU is better off for making their move and the swim upstream for the lower-level FBS schools gets tougher every year.

Personally, I am comfortable with our current direction but the conversation will begin again.

W&M to offer COA as well.

https://twitter.com/RTDjohnoconnor/statu...5357179904

Guess that means W&M is leaving CAA to be FBS too. 03-lmfao
Go back and read the OP, then tell us the one MAJOR difference in what the Tribe fan wrote and the tweet you referenced. I know you can do it if you really try.

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RE: OT: JMU Offering COA in All Sports?
I don't know if true or not but there is a rumor out there that JMU is offering coa to football et all because Delaware jumped the chain.

This all came about at the same time an article was published stating that a large percentage of JMU 2018 football verbals had several 1A offers and at least one P5 offer.

The P5 offers were listed. We are not talking about stealing recruits from Georgia or Alabama, we are talking about teams like Kentucky but still very good fcs gets.
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RE: OT: JMU Offering COA in All Sports?
According to this RTD article, Delaware is offering COA for football.

https://www.richmond.com/sports/college/...0c9eb.html

I have season tickets to Tribe football and love the rare occasions I can go but my passion is MBB. For the football fans on the board, can the Tribe thrive in FB with UD & JMU offering COA for football and us not?
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(08-03-2018 08:21 PM)tribeinexile Wrote:  According to this RTD article, Delaware is offering COA for football.

https://www.richmond.com/sports/college/...0c9eb.html

I have season tickets to Tribe football and love the rare occasions I can go but my passion is MBB. For the football fans on the board, can the Tribe thrive in FB with UD & JMU offering COA for football and us not?

Nobody wants to see huge gaps between conference programs. A double decker stadium, indoor practice facility, HC a the top of fcs pay scale, assistant coaches making $150K, COA. A new basketball arena being built so a good team is a must via a splashy new coach if need be.

The Tribe has a fighting chance but what about Rhode Island and Maine?

At some point I would think CAA football programs would want JMU gone. The gap is getting wider. At what point is JMU more likely to beat our FBS opener than Rhode Island beating conference mate JMU?
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Just because no announcement was never made doesn't mean our football players aren't receiving the COA.
Jimmye has never been big on announcing these sort of things, so do we really know? Given all the facility dollars spent on football I suspect the COA may very well part of our program.
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Huge has been aggressive as AD, I wouldn't be shocked if we start offering COA in a few years for FB and other sports.
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(08-03-2018 09:16 PM)Purplehazed Wrote:  
(08-03-2018 08:21 PM)tribeinexile Wrote:  According to this RTD article, Delaware is offering COA for football.

https://www.richmond.com/sports/college/...0c9eb.html

I have season tickets to Tribe football and love the rare occasions I can go but my passion is MBB. For the football fans on the board, can the Tribe thrive in FB with UD & JMU offering COA for football and us not?

Nobody wants to see huge gaps between conference programs. A double decker stadium, indoor practice facility, HC a the top of fcs pay scale, assistant coaches making $150K, COA. A new basketball arena being built so a good team is a must via a splashy new coach if need be.

The Tribe has a fighting chance but what about Rhode Island and Maine?

At some point I would think CAA football programs would want JMU gone. The gap is getting wider. At what point is JMU more likely to beat our FBS opener than Rhode Island beating conference mate JMU?
I don't think Rhody is concerned. Like NU, VU, and HU, URI is a basketball school and football is an afterthought. I can see URI folding its fb program if they believe it financially limits basketball's ability to be successful.
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(08-04-2018 05:15 AM)bubbadog57 Wrote:  Just because no announcement was never made doesn't mean our football players aren't receiving the COA.
Jimmye has never been big on announcing these sort of things, so do we really know? Given all the facility dollars spent on football I suspect the COA may very well part of our program.

That’s $189,000 per year just for football. And, I assume, there are Title IX requirements to meet, so double the $189k to $378k...every year. Where is that money coming from?
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(08-04-2018 05:15 AM)bubbadog57 Wrote:  Just because no announcement was never made doesn't mean our football players aren't receiving the COA.
Jimmye has never been big on announcing these sort of things, so do we really know? Given all the facility dollars spent on football I suspect the COA may very well part of our program.

If there had been an allotment for football, it would have been announced. That is too large of a chip for football recruiting to leave under the rug.

As Ms GR said, the complications of Title IX would slow down the COAs for football.
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I believe bubba.

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(08-04-2018 07:58 AM)Mrs. Got Ribe Wrote:  
(08-04-2018 05:15 AM)bubbadog57 Wrote:  Just because no announcement was never made doesn't mean our football players aren't receiving the COA.
Jimmye has never been big on announcing these sort of things, so do we really know? Given all the facility dollars spent on football I suspect the COA may very well part of our program.

That’s $189,000 per year just for football. And, I assume, there are Title IX requirements to meet, so double the $189k to $378k...every year. Where is that money coming from?

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(08-04-2018 10:51 AM)Tribal Wrote:  I believe bubba.

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Me too. Double secret COA.
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(08-04-2018 10:51 AM)Tribal Wrote:  I believe bubba.

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I see a new WM T-shirt opportunity with that saying. Tribe logo of course.
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