1. Lack of ability to throw in the red zone, when the field shortens.

2. Coaching decisions because of #1,Tech lost 4 games it should of won last year because of this, South Carolina, USM, UNT and UAB

(07-24-2018 11:29 AM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(07-24-2018 10:44 AM)Green Menace Wrote:  

(07-24-2018 10:07 AM)HogDawg Wrote:  LA Tech

1) Lack of depth. This seems to get us every year. LA Tech has P5 talent at almost every position, including several NFL prospects. But with a long season usually comes injuries. As with any G5, depth is usually an issue. What happens when we have to put Gomer in the game to replace Jaylon Ferguson?

2) Horrible scheduling. I guarantee you, by mid-season LA Tech Head Coach Skip Holtz will already be complaining about Tech's "open date" coming in Week 3. The 2018 schedule has Tech playing 10 straight games --6 on the road--without a break. To make matters worse, Tech's 10-game slate begins with back to back games at LSU, at UNT, vs UAB and at UTSA. So, it's LSU and the cre'm de la cre'm of CUSA west on 4 consecutive weekends. And then, see point #1. Gee, thanks AD Tommy McClelland!!

P5 talent at every position? A little ambitious statement there HogDawg.

Last year after the NFL draft, Tech had the most Draft picks out all the G5 schools since 2013.

Compare that to UNT who hasn’t had NFL draft pick since when? Over a decade?

Jaylon Ferguson might be another 1st rounder like Vernon Butler

Please clarify that statement. Are you saying that LA Tech has had the most draft picks of G5 schools from 2013-2018 as a period of time, or are you saying you had more in a single year last year than any other G5 has had in a single year since 2013?

And if you're so loaded with talent, explain 7-6 (4-4). You guys finished 4th in the C-USA West, and were 5-6 heading into the last 2 weeks of the season and in danger of not even reaching a bowl game with all your P5/NFL talent.

Because the head coach is Even Steven. You can be assured MT will be within one standard deviation of 6-6.

(07-24-2018 11:19 AM)SouthernMiss3613 Wrote:  

(07-24-2018 09:21 AM)TTT Wrote:  I wouldn't say we suck but there's a few things that concern me this year:

1. OL Depth Experience - We've got 3 starters returning...but we'll be starting a true freshman at center. The good news is he was a Dec. grad in HS so he went through all spring practice and ran with the 1's. We've a lot of bodies but some of them don't have a lot of experience
2. Who's gonna be our 3rd down/pass-catching RB? Tez Parks (6'1 210), George Payne (6'0 210), and Steven Anderson (6'2 242) will be our work-horses this year...we should see a sprinkle of T'Rod Daniels (5'9 175) and Darius Maberry (5'9 191) in a good bit of check-downs/screens etc on 3rd down passing situations.
3. @ UNT and @ UAB....I like our chances at home all year but if we can get a W from one of these road games then I think we'll take the west. We lost both of those games last year at home at it stung bad. Left a sour taste in the guys mouths and they will definitely want some revenge.

I wish I was as positive thinking as you, but I think this year will be a complete rebuild. We are replacing pretty much the entire team and our QB is extremely injury prone. Finishing 7-5 would be a great season, but it is looking more like 6-6.

Lol, how in the world do you think this is a rebuild year? Have you paid attention to our roster and recruiting?

D-line...Harris, Landry, Yancy, Turner, Smith, Chesser, Nico, Sikes, Cole...lotta bodies returning and some nice JUCO transfers (13 DL's on roster)
LB...very deep (14 LB's on roster....and Boothe/Yancy/Sangster/Ruff/Scrimsher/Davis are in that group)
DB's...loaded in depth (17 DB's on roster!!)
OL...not as deep as we'd like to be but we'll see. We know our line will be Dorebeck (LT), Fletcher (LG), Clopton ( C ), Pollard (RG)...who's gonna be RT? Dunno but we've got 15 OL's on roster with a couple more reporting in a few weeks
RB...loaded in depth: Tez, Payne, Anderson, Daniels, Maberry. We've got 11 RB's on roster
WR...Quez, Jones, Mitchell, Adams, McLauren, Terry, Fludd...we have sixteen WR's on roster. we're good!
HB/FB/TE...Washington, Kilcrease, Hartz (sat out last year), and two other guys...not much depth but then again we're not Wisconsin
QB...Griggs had surgery in the off-season to fix the pain in his heel in his foot. Hop said he could've probably played throughout the spring and this fall but they didn't want to risk it. He's ahead of schedule and will be good to go into fall camp. Behind Griggs we have Marcelo and Jack and 4 more QB's.

(07-24-2018 11:50 AM)Volkmar Wrote:  

(07-24-2018 11:29 AM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(07-24-2018 10:44 AM)Green Menace Wrote:  

(07-24-2018 10:07 AM)HogDawg Wrote:  LA Tech

1) Lack of depth. This seems to get us every year. LA Tech has P5 talent at almost every position, including several NFL prospects. But with a long season usually comes injuries. As with any G5, depth is usually an issue. What happens when we have to put Gomer in the game to replace Jaylon Ferguson?

2) Horrible scheduling. I guarantee you, by mid-season LA Tech Head Coach Skip Holtz will already be complaining about Tech's "open date" coming in Week 3. The 2018 schedule has Tech playing 10 straight games --6 on the road--without a break. To make matters worse, Tech's 10-game slate begins with back to back games at LSU, at UNT, vs UAB and at UTSA. So, it's LSU and the cre'm de la cre'm of CUSA west on 4 consecutive weekends. And then, see point #1. Gee, thanks AD Tommy McClelland!!

P5 talent at every position? A little ambitious statement there HogDawg.

Last year after the NFL draft, Tech had the most Draft picks out all the G5 schools since 2013.

Compare that to UNT who hasn’t had NFL draft pick since when? Over a decade?

Jaylon Ferguson might be another 1st rounder like Vernon Butler

Please clarify that statement. Are you saying that LA Tech has had the most draft picks of G5 schools from 2013-2018 as a period of time, or are you saying you had more in a single year last year than any other G5 has had in a single year since 2013?

And if you're so loaded with talent, explain 7-6 (4-4). You guys finished 4th in the C-USA West, and were 5-6 heading into the last 2 weeks of the season and in danger of not even reaching a bowl game with all your NFL talent.

Yes, our AD and SID tweeted out after the 2017 NFL draft that Tech had the most draft picks of any G5 school 2013-2017.

Tech, UConn, Boise, Houston even WKU was on the list of top G5 schools with draft picks.

Tech led the country in failed red zone last year. We lost 4 games by 1or two points missed field goal, bad times outs, inability to score. Hardly any difference between a 7-6 team and a 11-2 team other than we probably would have played a better team than SMU in the Bowl game.

I think thats why you see Tech listed as #2 or #3 in preseason CUSA polls

Because our coach clinches and goes conservative on both sides of the ball. He won’t let the coordinators do their jobs. 1 title in 9 years of his tenure is all you need to know. Ironically, his bowl record is stellar.

(07-24-2018 12:25 PM)SVHerd Wrote:  Because our coach clinches and goes conservative on both sides of the ball. He won’t let the coordinators do their jobs. 1 title in 9 years of his tenure is all you need to know. Ironically, his bowl record is stellar.

So is Holtz

No quarterback, no secondary. Lost great RB and WR. Gonna be a long year down here.

I agree with the other North Texas posters that the loss of Trevor Moore at kicker could be HUGE. Another possibility that scares me is that Texas Tech rattles off a string of unacceptable losses early in Big 12 play and fires Kingsbury mid-season. Followed then by an endless onslaught of questions, rumors and distractions for Littrell or Harrell or both about the opening.

(07-24-2018 11:24 AM)SouthernMiss3613 Wrote:  [quote='HogDawg' pid='15396807' dateline='1532444833']
LA Tech

1) Lack of depth. This seems to get us every year. LA Tech has P5 talent at almost every position, including several NFL prospects.

I think y'all are going to have a good team too, but your QB could really hold y'all back. He went 13 of 34 in your spring game.

That's b/c of all their P5 talent on defense but seriously we are all one bad QB or injured QB from a bad year. Depth will always be an issue for us lower-middle class majors.

(07-24-2018 12:17 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(07-24-2018 11:50 AM)Volkmar Wrote:  

(07-24-2018 11:29 AM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(07-24-2018 10:44 AM)Green Menace Wrote:  

(07-24-2018 10:07 AM)HogDawg Wrote:  LA Tech

1) Lack of depth. This seems to get us every year. LA Tech has P5 talent at almost every position, including several NFL prospects. But with a long season usually comes injuries. As with any G5, depth is usually an issue. What happens when we have to put Gomer in the game to replace Jaylon Ferguson?

2) Horrible scheduling. I guarantee you, by mid-season LA Tech Head Coach Skip Holtz will already be complaining about Tech's "open date" coming in Week 3. The 2018 schedule has Tech playing 10 straight games --6 on the road--without a break. To make matters worse, Tech's 10-game slate begins with back to back games at LSU, at UNT, vs UAB and at UTSA. So, it's LSU and the cre'm de la cre'm of CUSA west on 4 consecutive weekends. And then, see point #1. Gee, thanks AD Tommy McClelland!!

P5 talent at every position? A little ambitious statement there HogDawg.

Last year after the NFL draft, Tech had the most Draft picks out all the G5 schools since 2013.

Compare that to UNT who hasn’t had NFL draft pick since when? Over a decade?

Jaylon Ferguson might be another 1st rounder like Vernon Butler

Please clarify that statement. Are you saying that LA Tech has had the most draft picks of G5 schools from 2013-2018 as a period of time, or are you saying you had more in a single year last year than any other G5 has had in a single year since 2013?

And if you're so loaded with talent, explain 7-6 (4-4). You guys finished 4th in the C-USA West, and were 5-6 heading into the last 2 weeks of the season and in danger of not even reaching a bowl game with all your NFL talent.

Yes, our AD and SID tweeted out after the 2017 NFL draft that Tech had the most draft picks of any G5 school 2013-2017.

Tech, UConn, Boise, Houston even WKU was on the list of top G5 schools with draft picks.

Tech led the country in failed red zone last year. We lost 4 games by 1or two points missed field goal, bad times outs, inability to score. Hardly any difference between a 7-6 team and a 11-2 team other than we probably would have played a better team than SMU in the Bowl game.

I think thats why you see Tech listed as #2 or #3 in preseason CUSA polls

I did my own research and found that you guys are tied with Boise State at 10 draft picks for the period of time you stated. Impressive indeed, but it would've surprised me if you guys actually had more than BSU, which is what it sounded like. BSU moved in front of you with the 2018 draft though with two more picks while you guys had one.

Btw, UCF has had 11 draft picks from 2013-2018, but only had 7 from 2013-2017, as they had 4 drafted this year.

That said, you guys were 38-28 from 2013-2017, which makes it seem your coaching staff isn't really getting the most out of your talent. The team you're tied with, Boise State, is 50-17 over the same time period, playing arguably a slightly tougher schedule. UCF is also 40-24 during that time, even despite an 0-12 season in 2015. Maybe they're just deeper.

(07-24-2018 10:07 AM)HogDawg Wrote:  LA Tech

1) Lack of depth. This seems to get us every year. LA Tech has P5 talent at almost every position, including several NFL prospects. But with a long season usually comes injuries. As with any G5, depth is usually an issue. What happens when we have to put Gomer in the game to replace Jaylon Ferguson?

2) Horrible scheduling. I guarantee you, by mid-season LA Tech Head Coach Skip Holtz will already be complaining about Tech's "open date" coming in Week 3. The 2018 schedule has Tech playing 10 straight games --6 on the road--without a break. To make matters worse, Tech's 10-game slate begins with back to back games at LSU, at UNT, vs UAB and at UTSA. So, it's LSU and the cre'm de la cre'm of CUSA west on 4 consecutive weekends. And then, see point #1. Gee, thanks AD Tommy McClelland!!

When I read statements like that it just causes me to question the credibility of the post. Yes, LA Tech has had some players drafted, but to say you have "several draft prospects", implies that the Dawgs have 5 or 6 players that could go in the draft. I just don't believe that.

Also, no G5 program has "P5 talent at almost every position". If Tech had that kind of talent waiting in the wings last season, they would have had a better season. LA Tech sure didn't look like they had that much P5 talent when North Texas beat them last season.

(07-24-2018 12:55 PM)Volkmar Wrote:  

(07-24-2018 12:17 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(07-24-2018 11:50 AM)Volkmar Wrote:  

(07-24-2018 11:29 AM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(07-24-2018 10:44 AM)Green Menace Wrote:  P5 talent at every position? A little ambitious statement there HogDawg.

Last year after the NFL draft, Tech had the most Draft picks out all the G5 schools since 2013.

Compare that to UNT who hasn’t had NFL draft pick since when? Over a decade?

Jaylon Ferguson might be another 1st rounder like Vernon Butler

Please clarify that statement. Are you saying that LA Tech has had the most draft picks of G5 schools from 2013-2018 as a period of time, or are you saying you had more in a single year last year than any other G5 has had in a single year since 2013?

And if you're so loaded with talent, explain 7-6 (4-4). You guys finished 4th in the C-USA West, and were 5-6 heading into the last 2 weeks of the season and in danger of not even reaching a bowl game with all your NFL talent.

Yes, our AD and SID tweeted out after the 2017 NFL draft that Tech had the most draft picks of any G5 school 2013-2017.

Tech, UConn, Boise, Houston even WKU was on the list of top G5 schools with draft picks.

Tech led the country in failed red zone last year. We lost 4 games by 1or two points missed field goal, bad times outs, inability to score. Hardly any difference between a 7-6 team and a 11-2 team other than we probably would have played a better team than SMU in the Bowl game.

I think thats why you see Tech listed as #2 or #3 in preseason CUSA polls

I did my own research and found that you guys are tied with Boise State at 10 draft picks for the period of time you stated. Impressive indeed, but it would've surprised me if you guys actually had more than BSU, which is what it sounded like. BSU moved in front of you guys with the 2018 draft though with two more picks while you guys had one.

Btw, UCF has had 11 draft picks from 2013-2018, but only had 7 from 2013-2017, as they had 4 drafted last year.

I actually have a different take on Tech's team dept. I believe we have more depth across the board than in recent memory. As for the drafted players, it is a shame they haven't won a conference title. May have 3 more this season in Ferguson, Dugas, and Veal. But to answer the question:

1. QB. QB play must be improved. It can be as simple as completing 5-8 % more of his passes and part of that could improve if our guys catch the ball at a better rate. Having Veal healthy and at the Slot WR position from the beginning should help.

2. Defensive Tackle/MLB. A lot of unknowns here. Have to control the middle of the field. I think our Secondary and Pass Rush will be adequate enough to stop most passing games if the middle of the field is taken care of. Haven't seen that for several years.

3. K/P. Punter is settled on but that doesn't mean he is going to be good. Kicker position is dependent on a grad transfer who has okay stats.

(07-24-2018 01:11 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  

(07-24-2018 10:07 AM)HogDawg Wrote:  LA Tech

1) Lack of depth. This seems to get us every year. LA Tech has P5 talent at almost every position, including several NFL prospects. But with a long season usually comes injuries. As with any G5, depth is usually an issue. What happens when we have to put Gomer in the game to replace Jaylon Ferguson?

2) Horrible scheduling. I guarantee you, by mid-season LA Tech Head Coach Skip Holtz will already be complaining about Tech's "open date" coming in Week 3. The 2018 schedule has Tech playing 10 straight games --6 on the road--without a break. To make matters worse, Tech's 10-game slate begins with back to back games at LSU, at UNT, vs UAB and at UTSA. So, it's LSU and the cre'm de la cre'm of CUSA west on 4 consecutive weekends. And then, see point #1. Gee, thanks AD Tommy McClelland!!

When I read statements like that it just causes me to question the credibility of the post. Yes, LA Tech has had some players drafted, but to say you have "several draft prospects", implies that the Dawgs have 5 or 6 players that could go in the draft. I just don't believe that.

Also, no G5 program has "P5 talent at almost every position". If Tech had that kind of talent waiting in the wings last season, they would have had a better season. LA Tech sure didn't look like they that much P5 talent when North Texas beat them last season.

There is certainly 5-6 guys on this team that could get drafted. I don't know if you referring to this year only but Teddy Veal, OShea Dugas, Jaylon Ferguson, Amik Robertson, and Ethan Reed could all be drafted in next couple seasons. And the p5 thing is a little overblown. I most of the starters would at least be in the 2 deep at Oregon ST, Rutgers, and Kansas.

I could write War and Peace here but we’ll stick with the ones I feel loses us games.

1). Play calling. There is no creativity and the same plays are run over and over. We gave up seven offensive touchdowns as decent defensive backs can read formations and jump passes. Lot of 4 yard slants on third and 9.
This leads to poor time of possession which wears out the defense (see number 3). See Old Dominion 2017

2). Discipline. Want to get 10 yards on Charlotte’s defense with your slow qb without him getting hit? Run any kind of misdirection. It’s like yelling “squirrel” to a dog. Six guys will chase the fake and your qb can run unencumbered until he decides to slide. No one stays home or covers their zones.
Want to move Charlottes offense back 10 yards? Let the TE block you. That’s a hold!
Want to move either side of the ball 15 yards? Challenge a Charlotte player’s manhood. 15 yards added to the play after the late hit. (See Eastern Michigan 2017)

3). Depth. Charlotte generally redshirts the whole class effectively removing 25% of the scholarships from the field. This puts way to many guys who shouldn’t be playing at this level on the field late in games. Also, if a skill position player who is necessary to make the whole thing go, their is generally no backup (see WKU 2017)

4.). Have many of your teams had five different kickers miss Xp’s In the last two years? This has been a problem since we’ve come to CUSA. We’re 3-18 in FG’s over 40 yards since joining CUSA. We’ve missed 8 xp’s and 26 fg’s since joining CUSA. The beneficiary of this ineptness has been FIU, who holds two single point wins over Charlotte in the last two years).
The irony here is that the win over UAB in OT was, in my opinion, caused because Lambert didn’t think we could make an XP and thus went for two in OT.

Our QB despite how awesome he is when he is playing has a glass collar bone

(07-24-2018 12:55 PM)Volkmar Wrote:  

(07-24-2018 12:17 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(07-24-2018 11:50 AM)Volkmar Wrote:  

(07-24-2018 11:29 AM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(07-24-2018 10:44 AM)Green Menace Wrote:  P5 talent at every position? A little ambitious statement there HogDawg.

Last year after the NFL draft, Tech had the most Draft picks out all the G5 schools since 2013.

Compare that to UNT who hasn’t had NFL draft pick since when? Over a decade?

Jaylon Ferguson might be another 1st rounder like Vernon Butler

Please clarify that statement. Are you saying that LA Tech has had the most draft picks of G5 schools from 2013-2018 as a period of time, or are you saying you had more in a single year last year than any other G5 has had in a single year since 2013?

And if you're so loaded with talent, explain 7-6 (4-4). You guys finished 4th in the C-USA West, and were 5-6 heading into the last 2 weeks of the season and in danger of not even reaching a bowl game with all your NFL talent.

Yes, our AD and SID tweeted out after the 2017 NFL draft that Tech had the most draft picks of any G5 school 2013-2017.

Tech, UConn, Boise, Houston even WKU was on the list of top G5 schools with draft picks.

Tech led the country in failed red zone last year. We lost 4 games by 1or two points missed field goal, bad times outs, inability to score. Hardly any difference between a 7-6 team and a 11-2 team other than we probably would have played a better team than SMU in the Bowl game.

I think thats why you see Tech listed as #2 or #3 in preseason CUSA polls

I did my own research and found that you guys are tied with Boise State at 10 draft picks for the period of time you stated. Impressive indeed, but it would've surprised me if you guys actually had more than BSU, which is what it sounded like. BSU moved in front of you with the 2018 draft though with two more picks while you guys had one.

Btw, UCF has had 11 draft picks from 2013-2018, but only had 7 from 2013-2017, as they had 4 drafted this year.

That said, you guys were 38-28 from 2013-2017, which makes it seem your coaching staff isn't really getting the most out of your talent. The team you're tied with, Boise State, is 50-17 over the same time period, playing arguably a slightly tougher schedule. UCF is also 40-24 during that time, even despite an 0-12 season in 2015. Maybe they're just deeper.

No doubt about it, he gave 4 games away last year that Tech led. Holtz has to find way to hold on to a lead and finish, no way he should have let South Carolina, USM, UAB or UNT all come back and win those games all in the 4th quarter

(07-24-2018 01:11 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  

(07-24-2018 10:07 AM)HogDawg Wrote:  LA Tech

1) Lack of depth. This seems to get us every year. LA Tech has P5 talent at almost every position, including several NFL prospects. But with a long season usually comes injuries. As with any G5, depth is usually an issue. What happens when we have to put Gomer in the game to replace Jaylon Ferguson?

2) Horrible scheduling. I guarantee you, by mid-season LA Tech Head Coach Skip Holtz will already be complaining about Tech's "open date" coming in Week 3. The 2018 schedule has Tech playing 10 straight games --6 on the road--without a break. To make matters worse, Tech's 10-game slate begins with back to back games at LSU, at UNT, vs UAB and at UTSA. So, it's LSU and the cre'm de la cre'm of CUSA west on 4 consecutive weekends. And then, see point #1. Gee, thanks AD Tommy McClelland!!

When I read statements like that it just causes me to question the credibility of the post. Yes, LA Tech has had some players drafted, but to say you have "several draft prospects", implies that the Dawgs have 5 or 6 players that could go in the draft. I just don't believe that.

Also, no G5 program has "P5 talent at almost every position". If Tech had that kind of talent waiting in the wings last season, they would have had a better season. LA Tech sure didn't look like they had that much P5 talent when North Texas beat them last season.

La Tech fans are just like that. They feel entitled to the Division Crown each year because they have "P5 talent all over the field". Ditto Marshall, USM, and UAB. All entitled because...............????

(07-24-2018 04:16 PM)Green Menace Wrote:  

(07-24-2018 01:11 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  

(07-24-2018 10:07 AM)HogDawg Wrote:  LA Tech

1) Lack of depth. This seems to get us every year. LA Tech has P5 talent at almost every position, including several NFL prospects. But with a long season usually comes injuries. As with any G5, depth is usually an issue. What happens when we have to put Gomer in the game to replace Jaylon Ferguson?

2) Horrible scheduling. I guarantee you, by mid-season LA Tech Head Coach Skip Holtz will already be complaining about Tech's "open date" coming in Week 3. The 2018 schedule has Tech playing 10 straight games --6 on the road--without a break. To make matters worse, Tech's 10-game slate begins with back to back games at LSU, at UNT, vs UAB and at UTSA. So, it's LSU and the cre'm de la cre'm of CUSA west on 4 consecutive weekends. And then, see point #1. Gee, thanks AD Tommy McClelland!!

When I read statements like that it just causes me to question the credibility of the post. Yes, LA Tech has had some players drafted, but to say you have "several draft prospects", implies that the Dawgs have 5 or 6 players that could go in the draft. I just don't believe that.

Also, no G5 program has "P5 talent at almost every position". If Tech had that kind of talent waiting in the wings last season, they would have had a better season. LA Tech sure didn't look like they had that much P5 talent when North Texas beat them last season.

La Tech fans are just like that. They feel entitled to the Division Crown each year because they have "P5 talent all over the field". Ditto Marshall, USM, and UAB. All entitled because...............????

We aren't entitled but we do have titles. How many does UNT have?