(07-24-2018 05:00 PM)goldeneagle21 Wrote:  

(07-24-2018 04:16 PM)Green Menace Wrote:  

(07-24-2018 01:11 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  

(07-24-2018 10:07 AM)HogDawg Wrote:  LA Tech

1) Lack of depth. This seems to get us every year. LA Tech has P5 talent at almost every position, including several NFL prospects. But with a long season usually comes injuries. As with any G5, depth is usually an issue. What happens when we have to put Gomer in the game to replace Jaylon Ferguson?

2) Horrible scheduling. I guarantee you, by mid-season LA Tech Head Coach Skip Holtz will already be complaining about Tech's "open date" coming in Week 3. The 2018 schedule has Tech playing 10 straight games --6 on the road--without a break. To make matters worse, Tech's 10-game slate begins with back to back games at LSU, at UNT, vs UAB and at UTSA. So, it's LSU and the cre'm de la cre'm of CUSA west on 4 consecutive weekends. And then, see point #1. Gee, thanks AD Tommy McClelland!!

When I read statements like that it just causes me to question the credibility of the post. Yes, LA Tech has had some players drafted, but to say you have "several draft prospects", implies that the Dawgs have 5 or 6 players that could go in the draft. I just don't believe that.

Also, no G5 program has "P5 talent at almost every position". If Tech had that kind of talent waiting in the wings last season, they would have had a better season. LA Tech sure didn't look like they had that much P5 talent when North Texas beat them last season.

La Tech fans are just like that. They feel entitled to the Division Crown each year because they have "P5 talent all over the field". Ditto Marshall, USM, and UAB. All entitled because...............????

We aren't entitled but we do have titles. How many does UNT have?

Tell me, how many titles does USM have?

I wish I knew. We’ve sucked for as long as I’ve been a fan. I’ve experienced three winning seasons in my 20+ years of following UTEP. It’s hard being a Miner fan.

North Texas has 24 conference championships to Southern Miss' 8. To be fair, La Tech has us with 25.

(07-24-2018 02:03 PM)Tintin Wrote:  I could write War and Peace here but we’ll stick with the ones I feel loses us games.

1). Play calling. There is no creativity and the same plays are run over and over. We gave up seven offensive touchdowns as decent defensive backs can read formations and jump passes. Lot of 4 yard slants on third and 9.
This leads to poor time of possession which wears out the defense (see number 3). See Old Dominion 2017

2). Discipline. Want to get 10 yards on Charlotte’s defense with your slow qb without him getting hit? Run any kind of misdirection. It’s like yelling “squirrel” to a dog. Six guys will chase the fake and your qb can run unencumbered until he decides to slide. No one stays home or covers their zones.
Want to move Charlottes offense back 10 yards? Let the TE block you. That’s a hold!
Want to move either side of the ball 15 yards? Challenge a Charlotte player’s manhood. 15 yards added to the play after the late hit. (See Eastern Michigan 2017)

3). Depth. Charlotte generally redshirts the whole class effectively removing 25% of the scholarships from the field. This puts way to many guys who shouldn’t be playing at this level on the field late in games. Also, if a skill position player who is necessary to make the whole thing go, their is generally no backup (see WKU 2017)

4.). Have many of your teams had five different kickers miss Xp’s In the last two years? This has been a problem since we’ve come to CUSA. We’re 3-18 in FG’s over 40 yards since joining CUSA. We’ve missed 8 xp’s and 26 fg’s since joining CUSA. The beneficiary of this ineptness has been FIU, who holds two single point wins over Charlotte in the last two years).
The irony here is that the win over UAB in OT was, in my opinion, caused because Lambert didn’t think we could make an XP and thus went for two in OT.

clt says the hurry up play calling doesn’t work well with a qb who cannot throw.

clt says cltdog bark when clt read “squirrel “

(07-24-2018 11:24 AM)SouthernMiss3613 Wrote:  [quote='HogDawg' pid='15396807' dateline='1532444833']
LA Tech

1) Lack of depth. This seems to get us every year. LA Tech has P5 talent at almost every position, including several NFL prospects.

I think y'all are going to have a good team too, but your QB could really hold y'all back. He went 13 of 34 in your spring game.

That's true. But speaking statistically, J'Mar Smith was also the 4th most productive QB in CUSA last season, and will be the 2nd most productive CUSA QB returning in 2018, based on 2017's stats. Only UNT's Mason Fine returns in 2018 with better 2017 stats.

In 2017, Smith completed 229 of 409 passes (56%) for 2,974 yds and 16 TD's with only 5 INT's. Statistically, he wasn't terrible, and he was also only a sophomore working with a very depleted receiving corp recovering from the the loss of Trent Taylor and Carlos Henderson to the NFL the previous season. With a little improvement --and some better receivers, which he now has-- Smith could easily pass for over 10,000 career yds before he graduates.

I honestly don't think that LA Tech fans or CUSA fans have seen the best of J'Mar Smith yet. He'll get better as he matures. And if he improves much at all, CUSA better look out.

http://www.espn.com/college-football/con...conference

(07-24-2018 05:55 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  

(07-24-2018 11:24 AM)SouthernMiss3613 Wrote:  [quote='HogDawg' pid='15396807' dateline='1532444833']
LA Tech

1) Lack of depth. This seems to get us every year. LA Tech has P5 talent at almost every position, including several NFL prospects.

I think y'all are going to have a good team too, but your QB could really hold y'all back. He went 13 of 34 in your spring game.

That's true. But speaking statistically, J'Mar Smith was also the 4th most productive QB in CUSA last season, and will be the 2nd most productive CUSA QB returning in 2018, based on 2017's stats. Only UNT's Mason Fine returns in 2018 with better 2017 stats.

In 2017, Smith completed 229 of 409 passes (56%) for 2,974 yds and 16 TD's with only 5 INT's. Statistically, he wasn't terrible, and he was also only a sophomore. With a little improvement, Smith could easily pass for over 10,000 to 11,000 career yds before he graduates.

I honestly don't think that LA Tech fans or CUSA fans have seen the best of J'Mar Smith yet. He'll get better as he matures. And if he improves much at all, CUSA better look out.

http://www.espn.com/college-football/con...conference

I agree, J'Mar is 6'2" 230 with a cannon arm compared to the other CUSA QB's his ceiling is much much higher

(07-24-2018 05:33 PM)Magic95Fan Wrote:  North Texas has 24 conference championships to Southern Miss' 8. To be fair, La Tech has us with 25.

Really? You're seriously counting titles from the 30s? And comparing 1aa titles to 1a titles? Furthermore, USM was an independent for a significant portion of their heyday.

(07-24-2018 03:30 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(07-24-2018 12:55 PM)Volkmar Wrote:  

(07-24-2018 12:17 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(07-24-2018 11:50 AM)Volkmar Wrote:  

(07-24-2018 11:29 AM)Dawgxas Wrote:  Last year after the NFL draft, Tech had the most Draft picks out all the G5 schools since 2013.

Compare that to UNT who hasn’t had NFL draft pick since when? Over a decade?

Jaylon Ferguson might be another 1st rounder like Vernon Butler

Please clarify that statement. Are you saying that LA Tech has had the most draft picks of G5 schools from 2013-2018 as a period of time, or are you saying you had more in a single year last year than any other G5 has had in a single year since 2013?

And if you're so loaded with talent, explain 7-6 (4-4). You guys finished 4th in the C-USA West, and were 5-6 heading into the last 2 weeks of the season and in danger of not even reaching a bowl game with all your NFL talent.

Yes, our AD and SID tweeted out after the 2017 NFL draft that Tech had the most draft picks of any G5 school 2013-2017.

Tech, UConn, Boise, Houston even WKU was on the list of top G5 schools with draft picks.

Tech led the country in failed red zone last year. We lost 4 games by 1or two points missed field goal, bad times outs, inability to score. Hardly any difference between a 7-6 team and a 11-2 team other than we probably would have played a better team than SMU in the Bowl game.

I think thats why you see Tech listed as #2 or #3 in preseason CUSA polls

I did my own research and found that you guys are tied with Boise State at 10 draft picks for the period of time you stated. Impressive indeed, but it would've surprised me if you guys actually had more than BSU, which is what it sounded like. BSU moved in front of you with the 2018 draft though with two more picks while you guys had one.

Btw, UCF has had 11 draft picks from 2013-2018, but only had 7 from 2013-2017, as they had 4 drafted this year.

That said, you guys were 38-28 from 2013-2017, which makes it seem your coaching staff isn't really getting the most out of your talent. The team you're tied with, Boise State, is 50-17 over the same time period, playing arguably a slightly tougher schedule. UCF is also 40-24 during that time, even despite an 0-12 season in 2015. Maybe they're just deeper.

No doubt about it, [b]he gave 4 games away last year that Tech led. Holtz has to find way to hold on to a lead and finish, no way he should have let South Carolina, USM, UAB or UNT all come back and win those games all in the 4th quarter

You may need to go back and watch our game...

https://www.facebook.com/StadiumCollegeF...705685845/

There was over 6 minutes left in the 4th quarter when North Texas took the lead for good. Our defense was terrible last season and LA Tech couldn't score on it when it when they had to. Also, the talented Tech defense was able to slow down the North Texas offense, they couldn't stop it. That night Wilson averaged 8.3 YPC while rushing for 165 yards and 2 TD's. North Texas got the ball back with around 2 and half minutes and picked up 2 first downs before going into victory formation and running the clock out. Holtz didn't lose the North Texas game for LA Tech. The Dawgs just got beat.

(07-24-2018 06:03 PM)THUNDERGround Wrote:  

(07-24-2018 05:33 PM)Magic95Fan Wrote:  North Texas has 24 conference championships to Southern Miss' 8. To be fair, La Tech has us with 25.

Really? You're seriously counting titles from the 30s? And comparing 1aa titles to 1a titles? Furthermore, USM was an independent for a significant portion of their heyday.

The question was asked how many titles we had. We can pick an arbitrary date and ill look up what we have. Admittedly, our recent history is not good.

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(07-24-2018 01:11 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  

(07-24-2018 10:07 AM)HogDawg Wrote:  LA Tech

1) Lack of depth. This seems to get us every year. LA Tech has P5 talent at almost every position, including several NFL prospects. But with a long season usually comes injuries. As with any G5, depth is usually an issue. What happens when we have to put Gomer in the game to replace Jaylon Ferguson?

2) Horrible scheduling. I guarantee you, by mid-season LA Tech Head Coach Skip Holtz will already be complaining about Tech's "open date" coming in Week 3. The 2018 schedule has Tech playing 10 straight games --6 on the road--without a break. To make matters worse, Tech's 10-game slate begins with back to back games at LSU, at UNT, vs UAB and at UTSA. So, it's LSU and the cre'm de la cre'm of CUSA west on 4 consecutive weekends. And then, see point #1. Gee, thanks AD Tommy McClelland!!

When I read statements like that it just causes me to question the credibility of the post. Yes, LA Tech has had some players drafted, but to say you have "several draft prospects", implies that the Dawgs have 5 or 6 players that could go in the draft. I just don't believe that.

Also, no G5 program has "P5 talent at almost every position". If Tech had that kind of talent waiting in the wings last season, they would have had a better season. LA Tech sure didn't look like they had that much P5 talent when North Texas beat them last season.

Just keep running your mouth. You'll see talent on 9/29. Tech fans sure enjoyed our bowl game a hell of a lot more than you did yours.

(07-24-2018 06:03 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  

(07-24-2018 03:30 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(07-24-2018 12:55 PM)Volkmar Wrote:  

(07-24-2018 12:17 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(07-24-2018 11:50 AM)Volkmar Wrote:  Please clarify that statement. Are you saying that LA Tech has had the most draft picks of G5 schools from 2013-2018 as a period of time, or are you saying you had more in a single year last year than any other G5 has had in a single year since 2013?

And if you're so loaded with talent, explain 7-6 (4-4). You guys finished 4th in the C-USA West, and were 5-6 heading into the last 2 weeks of the season and in danger of not even reaching a bowl game with all your NFL talent.

Yes, our AD and SID tweeted out after the 2017 NFL draft that Tech had the most draft picks of any G5 school 2013-2017.

Tech, UConn, Boise, Houston even WKU was on the list of top G5 schools with draft picks.

Tech led the country in failed red zone last year. We lost 4 games by 1or two points missed field goal, bad times outs, inability to score. Hardly any difference between a 7-6 team and a 11-2 team other than we probably would have played a better team than SMU in the Bowl game.

I think thats why you see Tech listed as #2 or #3 in preseason CUSA polls

I did my own research and found that you guys are tied with Boise State at 10 draft picks for the period of time you stated. Impressive indeed, but it would've surprised me if you guys actually had more than BSU, which is what it sounded like. BSU moved in front of you with the 2018 draft though with two more picks while you guys had one.

Btw, UCF has had 11 draft picks from 2013-2018, but only had 7 from 2013-2017, as they had 4 drafted this year.

That said, you guys were 38-28 from 2013-2017, which makes it seem your coaching staff isn't really getting the most out of your talent. The team you're tied with, Boise State, is 50-17 over the same time period, playing arguably a slightly tougher schedule. UCF is also 40-24 during that time, even despite an 0-12 season in 2015. Maybe they're just deeper.

No doubt about it, [b]he gave 4 games away last year that Tech led. Holtz has to find way to hold on to a lead and finish, no way he should have let South Carolina, USM, UAB or UNT all come back and win those games all in the 4th quarter

You may need to go back and watch our game...

https://www.facebook.com/StadiumCollegeF...705685845/

There was over 6 minutes left in the 4th quarter when North Texas took the lead for good. Our defense was terrible last season and LA Tech couldn't score on it when it when they had to. Also, the talented Tech defense was able to slow down the North Texas offense, they couldn't stop it. That night Wilson averaged 8.3 YPC while rushing for 165 yards and 2 TD's. North Texas got the ball back with around 2 and half minutes and picked up 2 first downs before going into victory formation and running the clock out. Holtz didn't lose the North Texas game for LA Tech. The Dawgs just got beat.

No need to re-watch, Holtz called a timeout after Tech went up 17-7 to give UNT a opportunity to score before half, cutting the lead 17-10. Yes Holtz said over half our defense was out to injuries, but that is not valid in my opinion. It really should have never been that close honestly with UNT

It just wasn't the UNT game, Tech led UAB but missed two PAT's, one right out the end, Tech led USM by 10 with 52 seconds left, Tech led South Carolina by 10 or 7 then hail mary right at the end to win.

One misfortunate play after another really hard to stomach hopefully it turns the team into finishers this year

(07-24-2018 06:03 PM)THUNDERGround Wrote:  

(07-24-2018 05:33 PM)Magic95Fan Wrote:  North Texas has 24 conference championships to Southern Miss' 8. To be fair, La Tech has us with 25.

Really? You're seriously counting titles from the 30s? And comparing 1aa titles to 1a titles? Furthermore, USM was an independent for a significant portion of their heyday.

I'm fairly sure that total doesn't include our DI-AA time in the 80's and early 90's. North Texas has been playing major university football since the NCAA split the university division from the college division.

Same reason as last year.
Because sh!t happens!

(07-24-2018 06:59 PM)WWDog Wrote:  Same reason as last year.
Because sh!t happens!

Now that is the most profound, accurate analysis I’ve read on this thread! And it can apply to any CUSA team this season.

(07-24-2018 06:41 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  

(07-24-2018 06:03 PM)THUNDERGround Wrote:  

(07-24-2018 05:33 PM)Magic95Fan Wrote:  North Texas has 24 conference championships to Southern Miss' 8. To be fair, La Tech has us with 25.

Really? You're seriously counting titles from the 30s? And comparing 1aa titles to 1a titles? Furthermore, USM was an independent for a significant portion of their heyday.

I'm fairly sure that total doesn't include our DI-AA time in the 80's and early 90's. North Texas has been playing major university football since the NCAA split the university division from the college division.

It included 2 from the southland. Your Belt run was nice though.

(07-24-2018 06:11 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  

(07-24-2018 01:11 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  

(07-24-2018 10:07 AM)HogDawg Wrote:  LA Tech

1) Lack of depth. This seems to get us every year. LA Tech has P5 talent at almost every position, including several NFL prospects. But with a long season usually comes injuries. As with any G5, depth is usually an issue. What happens when we have to put Gomer in the game to replace Jaylon Ferguson?

2) Horrible scheduling. I guarantee you, by mid-season LA Tech Head Coach Skip Holtz will already be complaining about Tech's "open date" coming in Week 3. The 2018 schedule has Tech playing 10 straight games --6 on the road--without a break. To make matters worse, Tech's 10-game slate begins with back to back games at LSU, at UNT, vs UAB and at UTSA. So, it's LSU and the cre'm de la cre'm of CUSA west on 4 consecutive weekends. And then, see point #1. Gee, thanks AD Tommy McClelland!!

When I read statements like that it just causes me to question the credibility of the post. Yes, LA Tech has had some players drafted, but to say you have "several draft prospects", implies that the Dawgs have 5 or 6 players that could go in the draft. I just don't believe that.

Also, no G5 program has "P5 talent at almost every position". If Tech had that kind of talent waiting in the wings last season, they would have had a better season. LA Tech sure didn't look like they had that much P5 talent when North Texas beat them last season.

Just keep running your mouth. You'll see talent on 9/29. Tech fans sure enjoyed our bowl game a hell of a lot more than you did yours.

I'm only providing evidence as to why your statement is inaccurate. I'll be running my mouth after North Texas wins the game on Sept. 29th.

(07-24-2018 10:44 AM)Green Menace Wrote:  

(07-24-2018 10:07 AM)HogDawg Wrote:  LA Tech

1) Lack of depth. This seems to get us every year. LA Tech has P5 talent at almost every position, including several NFL prospects. But with a long season usually comes injuries. As with any G5, depth is usually an issue. What happens when we have to put Gomer in the game to replace Jaylon Ferguson?

2) Horrible scheduling. I guarantee you, by mid-season LA Tech Head Coach Skip Holtz will already be complaining about Tech's "open date" coming in Week 3. The 2018 schedule has Tech playing 10 straight games --6 on the road--without a break. To make matters worse, Tech's 10-game slate begins with back to back games at LSU, at UNT, vs UAB and at UTSA. So, it's LSU and the cre'm de la cre'm of CUSA west on 4 consecutive weekends. And then, see point #1. Gee, thanks AD Tommy McClelland!!

P5 talent at every position? A little ambitious statement there HogDawg.

To be fair, Kansas is P5

(07-24-2018 06:13 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(07-24-2018 06:03 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  

(07-24-2018 03:30 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(07-24-2018 12:55 PM)Volkmar Wrote:  

(07-24-2018 12:17 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  Yes, our AD and SID tweeted out after the 2017 NFL draft that Tech had the most draft picks of any G5 school 2013-2017.

Tech, UConn, Boise, Houston even WKU was on the list of top G5 schools with draft picks.

Tech led the country in failed red zone last year. We lost 4 games by 1or two points missed field goal, bad times outs, inability to score. Hardly any difference between a 7-6 team and a 11-2 team other than we probably would have played a better team than SMU in the Bowl game.

I think thats why you see Tech listed as #2 or #3 in preseason CUSA polls

I did my own research and found that you guys are tied with Boise State at 10 draft picks for the period of time you stated. Impressive indeed, but it would've surprised me if you guys actually had more than BSU, which is what it sounded like. BSU moved in front of you with the 2018 draft though with two more picks while you guys had one.

Btw, UCF has had 11 draft picks from 2013-2018, but only had 7 from 2013-2017, as they had 4 drafted this year.

That said, you guys were 38-28 from 2013-2017, which makes it seem your coaching staff isn't really getting the most out of your talent. The team you're tied with, Boise State, is 50-17 over the same time period, playing arguably a slightly tougher schedule. UCF is also 40-24 during that time, even despite an 0-12 season in 2015. Maybe they're just deeper.

No doubt about it, [b]he gave 4 games away last year that Tech led. Holtz has to find way to hold on to a lead and finish, no way he should have let South Carolina, USM, UAB or UNT all come back and win those games all in the 4th quarter

You may need to go back and watch our game...

https://www.facebook.com/StadiumCollegeF...705685845/

There was over 6 minutes left in the 4th quarter when North Texas took the lead for good. Our defense was terrible last season and LA Tech couldn't score on it when it when they had to. Also, the talented Tech defense was able to slow down the North Texas offense, they couldn't stop it. That night Wilson averaged 8.3 YPC while rushing for 165 yards and 2 TD's. North Texas got the ball back with around 2 and half minutes and picked up 2 first downs before going into victory formation and running the clock out. Holtz didn't lose the North Texas game for LA Tech. The Dawgs just got beat.

No need to re-watch, Holtz called a timeout after Tech went up 17-7 to give UNT a opportunity to score before half, cutting the lead 17-10. Yes Holtz said over half our defense was out to injuries, but that is not valid in my opinion. It really should have never been that close honestly with UNT

It just wasn't the UNT game, Tech led UAB but missed two PAT's, one right out the end, Tech led USM by 10 with 52 seconds left, Tech led South Carolina by 10 or 7 then hail mary right at the end to win.

One misfortunate play after another really hard to stomach hopefully it turns the team into finishers this year

What are you talking about? LA Tech scored with :39 seconds left in the half, to go up 17-7. Then, with :39 seconds North Texas drove 45 yards and kicked a field goal, to make it 17-10 at the half. North Texas used all 3 of their timeouts in that drive. Holtz didn't call any. You need to go back and re-watch the game.

I don't know the circumstances surrounding your loses to other teams, but I know North Texas just plan beat the Dawgs last season. Yes, the score was close, but it isn't like we had to pull off a last second drive to beat y'all. We just won a close game.

(07-24-2018 04:16 PM)Green Menace Wrote:  La Tech fans are just like that. They feel entitled to the Division Crown each year because they have "P5 talent all over the field". Ditto Marshall, USM, and UAB. All entitled because...............????

Wake me up when North Texas actually does something. You have a whopping 5 winning seasons since moving up to IA in 1995:

2002 8-5
2003 9-4
2004 7-5
2013 9-4
2017 9-5

At least Marshall, USM and LA Tech have all been ranked in that time frame and even finished the season ranked. While North Texas avg record since 1995 is 5-7 and Im really surprised its that high even.

(07-24-2018 08:51 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  

(07-24-2018 10:44 AM)Green Menace Wrote:  

(07-24-2018 10:07 AM)HogDawg Wrote:  LA Tech

1) Lack of depth. This seems to get us every year. LA Tech has P5 talent at almost every position, including several NFL prospects. But with a long season usually comes injuries. As with any G5, depth is usually an issue. What happens when we have to put Gomer in the game to replace Jaylon Ferguson?

2) Horrible scheduling. I guarantee you, by mid-season LA Tech Head Coach Skip Holtz will already be complaining about Tech's "open date" coming in Week 3. The 2018 schedule has Tech playing 10 straight games --6 on the road--without a break. To make matters worse, Tech's 10-game slate begins with back to back games at LSU, at UNT, vs UAB and at UTSA. So, it's LSU and the cre'm de la cre'm of CUSA west on 4 consecutive weekends. And then, see point #1. Gee, thanks AD Tommy McClelland!!

P5 talent at every position? A little ambitious statement there HogDawg.

To be fair, Kansas is P5

You can't prove that....