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RE: If the SEC did expand again and did so from the Big 12 who should we take and why?
(06-09-2018 01:07 PM)AllTideUp Wrote: (06-09-2018 12:31 PM)OdinFrigg Wrote: Texas Tech is pretty far west and is considerable added travel. Pac12 needs to have an eye on them, with or without UT.
WVU would be the only B12 school that offers the SEC something east/northeast crossroad/midatlantic outskirts. WVU would offer better value to the ACC.
Baylor, just no.
TCU. Perceived value gets overstated IMO. Depends on where others go. When they go on decline, their size may not be enough of a boost during a sustained slump.
Iowa State. Well beyond south and border state region. Not an exciting destination. Another travel strain. In BIG footprint.
Texas. SEC makes the most sense. But a lot of attitudinal
divide and conflicting goals.
Kansas State. Another out-of-footprint consideration below the radar. Would Mizzou favor them? It would be tough for KSU to find placement in a P4.
Kansas. BIG the better fit. Awful fb.
Oklahoma State. Would fit in the SEC with or without OU. Athletically, they may blend very well.
Oklahoma. There appears no downside to adding OU. oSu with them has some clear, positive factors.
I agree with most of this.
On TCU, their strength is their commitment to major athletics. They don't have much else in their arsenal to promote their school because it's not a state institution and there are already bigger brands in the same market.
What they've been able to build though with few resources is quite amazing. They went from mid-major to 3rd in the Big 12 in overall revenue within a few short years. No doubt that their affiliation with Big 12 schools helped their brand, but I have little doubt that an affiliation with the SEC would accomplish much the same thing and most likely increase their revenue again.
Their presence in DFW is the real attraction though. They have easy access to big time athletes, but they are also the only Power 5 brand in a major media market. Anyone TCU has a relationship with will become a topic of attention for DFW media and that's exposure that's hard to buy. If either OU or UT were a part of that equation then the SEC would essentially own the DFW market...a metro area similar in size to Atlanta.
Well let's take a look at what some of these scenarios might look like:
At 16 it's pretty clear that we would likely be adding Oklahoma and Oklahoma State or optimally Oklahoma and Texas so I won't list those. But assuming that once OU and OSU have agreed to come should Texas want in also what kind of foursome do we want:
A:
Arkansas, Kansas, Louisiana State, Mississippi, Missouri, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas, Texas A&M
Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, Mississippi State, South Carolina, Tennessee, Vanderbilt
B:
Arkansas, Louisiana State, Mississippi, Mississippi State, Missouri, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas, Texas A&M
Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, South Carolina, Tennessee, Vanderbilt, West Virginia
C:
Arkansas, Louisiana State, Kansas State, Mississippi, Missouri, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas, Texas A&M
Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, Mississippi State, South Carolina, Tennessee, Vanderbilt
D:
Arkansas, Louisiana State, Mississippi, Missouri, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas, Texas A&M, T.C.U.
Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, Mississippi State, South Carolina, Tennessee, Vanderbilt
I would argue that (B) would provide the best natural division into to two divisions.
If we moved to 3 divisions of 6 it wouldn't matter so much in adding 3 to the West and 1 to the East.
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