(05-04-2018 12:33 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(05-04-2018 11:19 AM)poppaslaw Wrote:  

(05-04-2018 10:35 AM)Shooters Wrote:  

(05-04-2018 08:18 AM)poppaslaw Wrote:  

(05-03-2018 07:42 PM)3601 Wrote:  I posted it earlier in this thread, but I’ll say it again. I think the spots around the fountain are better because they are closest to the permanent restrooms that are built into the two towers. I also think the spots directly on the “great lawn” are better than the spaces that aren’t directly adjacent to it.

This is accurate. Plenty of room for our Cornhole boards, the kids to toss the football, etc.

And if Penny Lame was a paying member of TL through TSF, he would have known about the increases coming this year since 2016. AND again in 2017.

Ask Penny Lane. I knew of the increases with NO DETAILS ISSUED BY TSF OR ATHLETIC DEPARTMENT because we called. General public had no idea this was coming. Also, the number of spots with all this green space your are referring to is insignificant.

They weren't clear about exact pricing (me and 3601 go way back on this), but they did state via email in 2016/17 non TSF space holders would be held to the same standards as other TSF space holders in 2018. The TSF donor chart in 2017 (couldn't find one for 2016) shows to purchase TL a level of $2500 must be given.

Correct, although there was also some talk of those donation rates going up (probably when they were expecting us to be in the B12), but obviously they opted to keep them at the same level for now. However, I was not notified of the official donations required - I had to call TSF and ask, and then I got an apology because apparently we had been "overlooked" when they were notifying people. /rolleyes

Overall, the easiest thing to do IMO would be for all TL spots to be managed exclusively by TSF, and have a tiered donation system based on location and proximity to the actual greenspace (in other words, if you're on the 2nd row back from the fountain, you pay less than someone who's right on the grass).

For example, all TL spots are $450.00 each, with an additional TSF donation of:

$2500 A & D right by fountain
$2000 A & D next section behind front row
$1500 B & E right on lawn
$1000 B & E next row back
$500 C & F sections on lawn
$250 C&F next row back

HH members are likely donating to the TSF anyway, and if they wanted to have a special "grouping" in each of the sections, it would be easy for people to request to be placed there.

It would be much more streamlined and remove any impression that the HH (or any other group) is getting more of a break than anyone else because they're not required to make the additional TSF donation.

Once you get off the main lawn all of the spots are virtually equal in quality. The only other real difference is proximity to the stadium and proximity to restrooms.

in other words, unless you are on the "great lawn" it doesn't really matter if you are the 2nd, 3rd, or 4th row of parking. You are either on the lawn or you are not.

(05-04-2018 10:48 AM)MemphisTigerPawr Wrote:  

(05-04-2018 10:35 AM)Shooters Wrote:  

(05-04-2018 08:18 AM)poppaslaw Wrote:  

(05-03-2018 07:42 PM)3601 Wrote:  

(05-03-2018 07:36 PM)Shooters Wrote:  Being honest and not a beer drinker like i used to be, I've never noticed a big difference in the spots; have been in HH section and it seemed about the the same to me.

I posted it earlier in this thread, but I’ll say it again. I think the spots around the fountain are better because they are closest to the permanent restrooms that are built into the two towers. I also think the spots directly on the “great lawn” are better than the spaces that aren’t directly adjacent to it.

This is accurate. Plenty of room for our Cornhole boards, the kids to toss the football, etc.

And if Penny Lame was a paying member of TL through TSF, he would have known about the increases coming this year since 2016. AND again in 2017.

Ask Penny Lane. I knew of the increases with NO DETAILS ISSUED BY TSF OR ATHLETIC DEPARTMENT because we called. General public had no idea this was coming. Also, the number of spots with all this green space your are referring to is insignificant.

Penny Lane, are you just trolling? Nobody could say as many things so wrong in one thread by accident.

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(05-04-2018 12:54 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  Do I think the HH has earned the rights to 3 of the 6 sections on Tiger Lane? You DAMN straight.

Sorry, but I've got to disagree with this, but ONLY in the way it's currently being done.

Has the HH done a lot for the FB program? Absolutely - no one would dispute that. Does that mean they "deserve" to be entitled to half of the TL spots with no additional donation required other than their membership, when the HH has chosen to give up their management of those spaces (for good reason) to TSF, who is directing the donation levels for the other sections? No.

If there were unlimited spots, keeping it like that would encourage new membership in the HH, because it is currently the best deal going to get on TL, which would be great. But since there are NOT unlimited spots, it actually deters people who don't have unlimited funds, and are choosing the best option to spend their money, since the HH spots are on a waiting list situation.

If I'm a new season ticket holder wanting to get on TL, where am I going to put my money? A place that gives me the best shot at getting a TL spot - that's not with the HH; it's with TSF.

If the HH is no longer managing those sections and TSF is, then IMO they need to be subject to the same donation requirements as anyone else getting a spot through TSF. I dare say most of the HH members are already donating to TSF at least for one of those tiers.

Again, if HH members want to be "grouped" together in each of the sections, fine. Have a corner in each of the sections that they could be placed.

(05-04-2018 01:22 PM)3601 Wrote:  

(05-04-2018 12:33 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(05-04-2018 11:19 AM)poppaslaw Wrote:  

(05-04-2018 10:35 AM)Shooters Wrote:  

(05-04-2018 08:18 AM)poppaslaw Wrote:  This is accurate. Plenty of room for our Cornhole boards, the kids to toss the football, etc.

And if Penny Lame was a paying member of TL through TSF, he would have known about the increases coming this year since 2016. AND again in 2017.

Ask Penny Lane. I knew of the increases with NO DETAILS ISSUED BY TSF OR ATHLETIC DEPARTMENT because we called. General public had no idea this was coming. Also, the number of spots with all this green space your are referring to is insignificant.

They weren't clear about exact pricing (me and 3601 go way back on this), but they did state via email in 2016/17 non TSF space holders would be held to the same standards as other TSF space holders in 2018. The TSF donor chart in 2017 (couldn't find one for 2016) shows to purchase TL a level of $2500 must be given.

Correct, although there was also some talk of those donation rates going up (probably when they were expecting us to be in the B12), but obviously they opted to keep them at the same level for now. However, I was not notified of the official donations required - I had to call TSF and ask, and then I got an apology because apparently we had been "overlooked" when they were notifying people. /rolleyes

Overall, the easiest thing to do IMO would be for all TL spots to be managed exclusively by TSF, and have a tiered donation system based on location and proximity to the actual greenspace (in other words, if you're on the 2nd row back from the fountain, you pay less than someone who's right on the grass).

For example, all TL spots are $450.00 each, with an additional TSF donation of:

$2500 A & D right by fountain
$2000 A & D sections behind that front row
$1500 B & E right on lawn
$1000 B & E sections behind front row
$500 C & F right on lawn
$250 C&F sections behind lawn front row

HH members are likely donating to the TSF anyway, and if they wanted to have a special "grouping" in each of the sections, it would be easy for people to request to be placed there.

It would be much more streamlined and remove any impression that the HH (or any other group) is getting more of a break than anyone else because they're not required to make the additional TSF donation.

Once you get off the main lawn all of the spots are virtually equal in quality. The only other real difference is proximity to the stadium and proximity to restrooms.

in other words, unless you are on the "great lawn" it doesn't really matter if you are the 2nd, 3rd, or 4th row of parking. You are either on the lawn or you are not.

Correct - that's why I'm saying require more $ to be "on the lawn" and a hair less in your section if you're back behind it. The closer you are to the fountains/stadium, the higher your overall donation.

Should the Rebounders take over half the parking available in the FEF parking garage?

(05-04-2018 01:37 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(05-04-2018 01:22 PM)3601 Wrote:  

(05-04-2018 12:33 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(05-04-2018 11:19 AM)poppaslaw Wrote:  

(05-04-2018 10:35 AM)Shooters Wrote:  Ask Penny Lane. I knew of the increases with NO DETAILS ISSUED BY TSF OR ATHLETIC DEPARTMENT because we called. General public had no idea this was coming. Also, the number of spots with all this green space your are referring to is insignificant.

They weren't clear about exact pricing (me and 3601 go way back on this), but they did state via email in 2016/17 non TSF space holders would be held to the same standards as other TSF space holders in 2018. The TSF donor chart in 2017 (couldn't find one for 2016) shows to purchase TL a level of $2500 must be given.

Correct, although there was also some talk of those donation rates going up (probably when they were expecting us to be in the B12), but obviously they opted to keep them at the same level for now. However, I was not notified of the official donations required - I had to call TSF and ask, and then I got an apology because apparently we had been "overlooked" when they were notifying people. /rolleyes

Overall, the easiest thing to do IMO would be for all TL spots to be managed exclusively by TSF, and have a tiered donation system based on location and proximity to the actual greenspace (in other words, if you're on the 2nd row back from the fountain, you pay less than someone who's right on the grass).

For example, all TL spots are $450.00 each, with an additional TSF donation of:

$2500 A & D right by fountain
$2000 A & D next section behind front row
$1500 B & E right on lawn
$1000 B & E next row back
$500 C & F sections on lawn
$250 C&F next row back

HH members are likely donating to the TSF anyway, and if they wanted to have a special "grouping" in each of the sections, it would be easy for people to request to be placed there.

It would be much more streamlined and remove any impression that the HH (or any other group) is getting more of a break than anyone else because they're not required to make the additional TSF donation.

Once you get off the main lawn all of the spots are virtually equal in quality. The only other real difference is proximity to the stadium and proximity to restrooms.

in other words, unless you are on the "great lawn" it doesn't really matter if you are the 2nd, 3rd, or 4th row of parking. You are either on the lawn or you are not.

Correct - that's why I'm saying require more $ to be "on the lawn" and a hair less in your section if you're back behind it. The closer you are to the fountains/stadium, the higher your overall donation.

I think we agree in theory, but I wouldn't give much of a discount to a lawn spot in C or F I'd charge the same as a lawn spot in B or E.

I would even consider charging the exact same for ALL spots except for those directly on the lawn and those around the fountain.

(05-04-2018 01:39 PM)3601 Wrote:  

(05-04-2018 01:37 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(05-04-2018 01:22 PM)3601 Wrote:  

(05-04-2018 12:33 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(05-04-2018 11:19 AM)poppaslaw Wrote:  They weren't clear about exact pricing (me and 3601 go way back on this), but they did state via email in 2016/17 non TSF space holders would be held to the same standards as other TSF space holders in 2018. The TSF donor chart in 2017 (couldn't find one for 2016) shows to purchase TL a level of $2500 must be given.

Correct, although there was also some talk of those donation rates going up (probably when they were expecting us to be in the B12), but obviously they opted to keep them at the same level for now. However, I was not notified of the official donations required - I had to call TSF and ask, and then I got an apology because apparently we had been "overlooked" when they were notifying people. /rolleyes

Overall, the easiest thing to do IMO would be for all TL spots to be managed exclusively by TSF, and have a tiered donation system based on location and proximity to the actual greenspace (in other words, if you're on the 2nd row back from the fountain, you pay less than someone who's right on the grass).

For example, all TL spots are $450.00 each, with an additional TSF donation of:

$2500 A & D right by fountain
$2000 A & D next section behind front row
$1500 B & E right on lawn
$1000 B & E next row back
$500 C & F sections on lawn
$250 C&F next row back

HH members are likely donating to the TSF anyway, and if they wanted to have a special "grouping" in each of the sections, it would be easy for people to request to be placed there.

It would be much more streamlined and remove any impression that the HH (or any other group) is getting more of a break than anyone else because they're not required to make the additional TSF donation.

Once you get off the main lawn all of the spots are virtually equal in quality. The only other real difference is proximity to the stadium and proximity to restrooms.

in other words, unless you are on the "great lawn" it doesn't really matter if you are the 2nd, 3rd, or 4th row of parking. You are either on the lawn or you are not.

Correct - that's why I'm saying require more $ to be "on the lawn" and a hair less in your section if you're back behind it. The closer you are to the fountains/stadium, the higher your overall donation.

I think we agree in theory, but I wouldn't give much of a discount to a lawn spot in C or F I'd charge the same as a lawn spot in B or E.

B&E is closest to the kid-friendly things, so those would be selling points for a lot of the TL spotholders...otherwise I would agree.

(05-04-2018 12:09 PM)Shooters Wrote:  

(05-04-2018 11:19 AM)poppaslaw Wrote:  

(05-04-2018 10:35 AM)Shooters Wrote:  

(05-04-2018 08:18 AM)poppaslaw Wrote:  

(05-03-2018 07:42 PM)3601 Wrote:  I posted it earlier in this thread, but I’ll say it again. I think the spots around the fountain are better because they are closest to the permanent restrooms that are built into the two towers. I also think the spots directly on the “great lawn” are better than the spaces that aren’t directly adjacent to it.

This is accurate. Plenty of room for our Cornhole boards, the kids to toss the football, etc.

And if Penny Lame was a paying member of TL through TSF, he would have known about the increases coming this year since 2016. AND again in 2017.

Ask Penny Lane. I knew of the increases with NO DETAILS ISSUED BY TSF OR ATHLETIC DEPARTMENT because we called. General public had no idea this was coming. Also, the number of spots with all this green space your are referring to is insignificant.

They weren't clear about exact pricing (me and 3601 go way back on this), but they did state via email in 2016/17 non TSF space holders would be held to the same standards as other TSF space holders in 2018. The TSF donor chart in 2017 (couldn't find one for 2016) shows to purchase TL a level of $2500 must be given.

And being on the main lawn certainly isn't insignificant to my crew. #aliaii #TarikBlack #bannedcamp

Well your #TarikBlack says a lot about you. A kid quits in several practices, can’t get along with Pastner, while EVERY OTHER PLAYER CONTINUES. He then transfers to Ksnsas where his stats are almost identical except his foul rate went up to 9 foully per 40 minutes. He somehow makes the NBA (played 2 minutes in Houstons first playoff series, none so far in second round) and chooses to be introduced as “from Kansas”. He is not a Tiger.

They did not notify current TSF donors of cost of all sections until just before they went on sale. And unless you give $2500 you can forget green space. May take $5K donations to get those spots. There are enough $5K basketball donors to buy out both sections up front. I hope it doesn’t as then that become an elite section with no additional revenue to school.

Confirmed.

Record thread for average words per post.

(05-04-2018 01:38 PM)3601 Wrote:  Should the Rebounders take over half the parking available in the FEF parking garage?

I asked this earlier embedded in a lengthy thread that covered other things. Best case for HH not being involved in TL parking.

(05-04-2018 06:18 PM)Shooters Wrote:  

(05-04-2018 01:38 PM)3601 Wrote:  Should the Rebounders take over half the parking available in the FEF parking garage?

I asked this earlier embedded in a lengthy thread that covered other things. Best case for HH not being involved in TL parking.

That would be a legit discussion... if there were anything to do but park for a bb game. As it is, there is no socialization aspect to the FEF parking garage.

(05-04-2018 05:14 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  Record thread for average words per post.

That is almost impossible to do without a few War & Peace posts by Saloogie.

(05-04-2018 06:22 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  

(05-04-2018 06:18 PM)Shooters Wrote:  

(05-04-2018 01:38 PM)3601 Wrote:  Should the Rebounders take over half the parking available in the FEF parking garage?

I asked this earlier embedded in a lengthy thread that covered other things. Best case for HH not being involved in TL parking.

That would be a legit discussion... if there were anything to do but park for a bb game. As it is, there is no socialization aspect to the FEF parking garage.

That’s not necessarily true. HoopDreams often gives out free handles in the garage. Does that count as socialization?

(05-04-2018 06:22 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  

(05-04-2018 06:18 PM)Shooters Wrote:  

(05-04-2018 01:38 PM)3601 Wrote:  Should the Rebounders take over half the parking available in the FEF parking garage?

I asked this earlier embedded in a lengthy thread that covered other things. Best case for HH not being involved in TL parking.

That would be a legit discussion... if there were anything to do but park for a bb game. As it is, there is no socialization aspect to the FEF parking garage.

Serious question...why does that matter? Are you saying that the socialization on Tiger Lane justifies the “discounted” prices?

(05-04-2018 07:13 PM)3601 Wrote:  

(05-04-2018 06:22 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  

(05-04-2018 06:18 PM)Shooters Wrote:  

(05-04-2018 01:38 PM)3601 Wrote:  Should the Rebounders take over half the parking available in the FEF parking garage?

I asked this earlier embedded in a lengthy thread that covered other things. Best case for HH not being involved in TL parking.

That would be a legit discussion... if there were anything to do but park for a bb game. As it is, there is no socialization aspect to the FEF parking garage.

Serious question...why does that matter? Are you saying that the socialization on Tiger Lane justifies the “discounted” prices?

Not exactly. What I'm saying is, for YEARS the Highland Hundred was the driving force behind the football team's survival, in great part due to tailgating. Tailgating transformed the purpose of attendance. When I learned that there was this whole dynamic of the "event" out in the parking lot, it made me attend games that I otherwise would not have. It literally instilled loyalty in me and a lot of others that was not there before.

That aspect is just not there for basketball. You go, you don't go... it's all centered around the game itself. If you ask me, The Highland Hundred has a yuge ownership stake in the product we now know as Tiger Football. I think some consideration for that is due them.

(05-04-2018 07:31 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  

(05-04-2018 07:13 PM)3601 Wrote:  

(05-04-2018 06:22 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  

(05-04-2018 06:18 PM)Shooters Wrote:  

(05-04-2018 01:38 PM)3601 Wrote:  Should the Rebounders take over half the parking available in the FEF parking garage?

I asked this earlier embedded in a lengthy thread that covered other things. Best case for HH not being involved in TL parking.

That would be a legit discussion... if there were anything to do but park for a bb game. As it is, there is no socialization aspect to the FEF parking garage.

Serious question...why does that matter? Are you saying that the socialization on Tiger Lane justifies the “discounted” prices?

Not exactly. What I'm saying is, for YEARS the Highland Hundred was the driving force behind the football team's survival, in great part due to tailgating. Tailgating transformed the purpose of attendance. When I learned that there was this whole dynamic of the "event" out in the parking lot, it made me attend games that I otherwise would not have. It literally instilled loyalty in me and a lot of others that was not there before.

That aspect is just not there for basketball. You go, you don't go... it's all centered around the game itself. If you ask me, The Highland Hundred has a yuge ownership stake in the product we now know as Tiger Football. I think some consideration for that is due them.

Basketball's subsidy of football "was the driving force behind the football team's survival". It's ludicrous to think tailgating had anything to do with it.

(05-04-2018 01:17 PM)3601 Wrote:  

(05-04-2018 12:52 PM)Shooters Wrote:  

(05-04-2018 12:15 PM)3601 Wrote:  

(05-04-2018 12:09 PM)Shooters Wrote:  [quote='poppaslaw' pid='15282505' dateline='1525450767']

They weren't clear about exact pricing (me and 3601 go way back on this), but they did state via email in 2016/17 non TSF space holders would be held to the same standards as other TSF space holders in 2018. The TSF donor chart in 2017 (couldn't find one for 2016) shows to purchase TL a level of $2500 must be given.

And being on the main lawn certainly isn't insignificant to my crew. #aliaii #TarikBlack #bannedcamp

Well your #TarikBlack says a lot about you. A kid quits in several practices, can’t get along with Pastner, while EVERY OTHER PLAYER CONTINUES. He then transfers to Ksnsas where his stats are almost identical except his foul rate went up to 9 foully per 40 minutes. He somehow makes the NBA (played 2 minutes in Houstons first playoff series, none so far in second round) and chooses to be introduced as “from Kansas”. He is not a Tiger.

They did not notify current TSF donors of cost of all sections until just before they went on sale. And unless you give $2500 you can forget green space. May take $5K donations to get those spots. There are enough $5K basketball donors to buy out both sections up front. I hope it doesn’t as then that become an elite section with no additional revenue to school.

Sounds like are more envious of those with the HH sweetheart deals than you are genuinely concerned about the school’s revenue.

Why question something that 1. IS NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS 2, You have no clue. Over the years, I could be the top donor exclusive of Ambassadors? So your speculation is unfounded.

Just telling you it is not a good look, buddy.
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You haven’t read the thread from my viewpoint. Constant questioning or more like mocking of everything I posted. 7-8 posts on whose alias that I am an alias of. Personal insults. I can take it. I am a big boy but it’s hard to come off like Dan Patrick with the trash thrown at me. So maybe not a good look but my point was surely made and I think it’s opened some of your eyes about this sense of entitlement that HH had about these spots and more importantly, the incompetence of our athletic Department in letting this get this far where the school is negotiating with a booster group. Sounds like a 12 year team fundraiser gone bad.

I wanted to let this drop as it was discussed in great detail but you point out I came off as an ass. That’s why.

(05-04-2018 07:39 PM)Shooters Wrote:  

(05-04-2018 07:31 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  

(05-04-2018 07:13 PM)3601 Wrote:  

(05-04-2018 06:22 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  

(05-04-2018 06:18 PM)Shooters Wrote:  I asked this earlier embedded in a lengthy thread that covered other things. Best case for HH not being involved in TL parking.

That would be a legit discussion... if there were anything to do but park for a bb game. As it is, there is no socialization aspect to the FEF parking garage.

Serious question...why does that matter? Are you saying that the socialization on Tiger Lane justifies the “discounted” prices?

Not exactly. What I'm saying is, for YEARS the Highland Hundred was the driving force behind the football team's survival, in great part due to tailgating. Tailgating transformed the purpose of attendance. When I learned that there was this whole dynamic of the "event" out in the parking lot, it made me attend games that I otherwise would not have. It literally instilled loyalty in me and a lot of others that was not there before.

That aspect is just not there for basketball. You go, you don't go... it's all centered around the game itself. If you ask me, The Highland Hundred has a yuge ownership stake in the product we now know as Tiger Football. I think some consideration for that is due them.

Basketball's subsidy of football "was the driving force behind the football team's survival". It's ludicrous to think tailgating had anything to do with it.

Definitely Penny Lane

(05-04-2018 11:41 PM)MemphisTigerPawr Wrote:  

(05-04-2018 07:39 PM)Shooters Wrote:  

(05-04-2018 07:31 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  

(05-04-2018 07:13 PM)3601 Wrote:  

(05-04-2018 06:22 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  That would be a legit discussion... if there were anything to do but park for a bb game. As it is, there is no socialization aspect to the FEF parking garage.

Serious question...why does that matter? Are you saying that the socialization on Tiger Lane justifies the “discounted” prices?

Not exactly. What I'm saying is, for YEARS the Highland Hundred was the driving force behind the football team's survival, in great part due to tailgating. Tailgating transformed the purpose of attendance. When I learned that there was this whole dynamic of the "event" out in the parking lot, it made me attend games that I otherwise would not have. It literally instilled loyalty in me and a lot of others that was not there before.

That aspect is just not there for basketball. You go, you don't go... it's all centered around the game itself. If you ask me, The Highland Hundred has a yuge ownership stake in the product we now know as Tiger Football. I think some consideration for that is due them.

Basketball's subsidy of football "was the driving force behind the football team's survival". It's ludicrous to think tailgating had anything to do with it.

Definitely Penny Lane

There are none so blind as those whom absolutely refuse to see.