Hello There, Guest! (LoginRegister)


Post Reply 
OT: Want some outsider opinions on minor controversy among GS fans
Author Message
Bookmark and Share
EigenEagle Offline
Hall of Famer
*

Posts: 10,230
Joined: May 2014
Reputation: 645
I Root For: Ga Southern
Location:
Post: #1
OT: Want some outsider opinions on minor controversy among GS fans
http://media.morristechnology.com/upload...pg_015.pdf

Hypothetical Question: How would you feel about your least favorite in-state Power 5 team's coach holding an event on your campus to discuss their team with the proceeds going to the local Boys and Girls Club?

Some of our fans are complaining about this, but I don't really have a big problem with it, honestly. We have a coach that was hired to get the program back on track and not to get the fan base energized, and there are cheaper opportunities in Statesboro and the are to hear him speak. You just won't make as much money if our coach is speaking than a coach that just went to UGA's first national championship game in almost 40 years.
05-03-2018 02:38 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Advertisement


TrueBlueDrew Online
Heisman
*

Posts: 6,554
Joined: Jun 2014
Reputation: 486
I Root For: Jawjuh Suthen
Location: Enemy Turf
Post: #2
RE: OT: Want some outsider opinions on minor controversy among GS fans
We've always had to deal with the "divided loyalties" fan and alumni donating to the Bulldawg club and not giving a cent to GS Athletics. It's held us back for so long. It recently has been getting better, but now that we've hit a low point while UGA has simultaneously hit a high point, those old wounds are reopening. That's what's got GS fans in an uproar.

I personally don't care that the B&G Club invited Smart to speak for a fundraiser, but it's definitely a kick in the nads to host him on our own campus while he talks UGA football to the very people that could care less about their actual Alma Mater.
05-03-2018 03:17 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Saint3333 Offline
Hall of Famer
*

Posts: 11,426
Joined: Feb 2011
Reputation: 854
I Root For: App State
Location:
Post: #3
RE: OT: Want some outsider opinions on minor controversy among GS fans
Supporting B&G - that’s awesome.

On your campus - no way.
05-03-2018 03:51 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
GSUALUM17 Offline
All American
*

Posts: 4,056
Joined: Sep 2017
Reputation: 149
I Root For: GSU
Location:
Post: #4
RE: OT: Want some outsider opinions on minor controversy among GS fans
UGA coach will bring in a lot of money for charity...so it's just practical.

I'm trying to imagine Smart speaking at the GSU Stadium....thousands of UGA fans will show up...since UGA isn't our rival in football, I'd welcome the free publicity. Try to impress Smart and Dawgs fans with our facilities.....and make sure they leave with positive experiences about GSU to let them spread the good words for us.

Plus, Georgia Southern is getting paid to host the event I assume? so collect free money, generate goodwill by attaching your name to a charity, and show off your school to UGA fans. I don't see a problem.
(This post was last modified: 05-03-2018 04:08 PM by GSUALUM17.)
05-03-2018 04:02 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
RoyK Offline
Special Teams
*

Posts: 967
Joined: Mar 2013
Reputation: 8
I Root For: Georgia
Location:
Post: #5
RE: OT: Want some outsider opinions on minor controversy among GS fans
(05-03-2018 02:38 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  http://media.morristechnology.com/upload...pg_015.pdf

Hypothetical Question: How would you feel about your least favorite in-state Power 5 team's coach holding an event on your campus to discuss their team with the proceeds going to the local Boys and Girls Club?

Some of our fans are complaining about this, but I don't really have a big problem with it, honestly. We have a coach that was hired to get the program back on track and not to get the fan base energized, and there are cheaper opportunities in Statesboro and the are to hear him speak. You just won't make as much money if our coach is speaking than a coach that just went to UGA's first national championship game in almost 40 years.
Reminds me of one of the snafus made by our administration about Georgia. But it’s for a good cause at least.
05-03-2018 04:05 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
TrueBlueDrew Online
Heisman
*

Posts: 6,554
Joined: Jun 2014
Reputation: 486
I Root For: Jawjuh Suthen
Location: Enemy Turf
Post: #6
RE: OT: Want some outsider opinions on minor controversy among GS fans
(05-03-2018 04:02 PM)GSUALUM17 Wrote:  UGA coach will bring in a lot of money for charity...so it's just practical.

I'm trying to imagine Smart speaking at the GSU Stadium....thousands of UGA fans will show up...since UGA isn't our rival in football, I'd welcome the free publicity. Try to impress Smart and Dawgs fans with our facilities.....and make sure they leave with positive experiences about GSU to let them spread the good words for us.

What if those thousands of UGA fans also happen to be students and alumni of Georgia State who don't attend State's games because they think it's not "real football?" Our problem is we have alums who put being a fan of UGA first. The people coming to hear Smart speak aren't driving here from Athens to see our campus and tell people how nice it is, these will mostly be people that went to school on our campus.

Like I said, it's for a good cause and I'm happy they will raise a lot of money, but it feels dirty at the same time.
(This post was last modified: 05-03-2018 04:14 PM by TrueBlueDrew.)
05-03-2018 04:06 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Advertisement


GSUALUM17 Offline
All American
*

Posts: 4,056
Joined: Sep 2017
Reputation: 149
I Root For: GSU
Location:
Post: #7
RE: OT: Want some outsider opinions on minor controversy among GS fans
(05-03-2018 04:06 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  
(05-03-2018 04:02 PM)GSUALUM17 Wrote:  UGA coach will bring in a lot of money for charity...so it's just practical.

I'm trying to imagine Smart speaking at the GSU Stadium....thousands of UGA fans will show up...since UGA isn't our rival in football, I'd welcome the free publicity. Try to impress Smart and Dawgs fans with our facilities.....and make sure they leave with positive experiences about GSU to let them spread the good words for us.

What if those thousands of UGA fans also happen to be students and alumni of Georgia State who don't attend State's games because they think it's not "real football?"

Id live with that...because it is what it is.. If they haven't been to our football games, we get to showcase our place to a group of people we haven't reached before...if they like what they see, maybe their curiosity was tickled enough for them to buy a ticket or two in the future...perhaps they could be fans of UGA and GSU simultaneously because the two schools never competes directly. If they still don't want to do anything with GSU football, then nothing is really lost at the end...

I could be bitter that there are Georgia State alums who may prefer UGA football, but that won't solve anything....alienating them with hostility will probably make the problem worse. These alums with "divided loyalties" can keep supporting the Dawgs primarily, but perhaps GSU football can be their second football team to support. Some fan support is better than none.
05-03-2018 04:30 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
AppManDG Offline
Heisman
*

Posts: 6,142
Joined: Aug 2010
Reputation: 308
I Root For: App State
Location: Gastonia, NC
Post: #8
RE: OT: Want some outsider opinions on minor controversy among GS fans
Wouldn't be happy with it one bit. I'm sure there are plenty of other facilities in Statesboro that could host the event.
05-03-2018 06:47 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
chiefsfan Offline
No Seriously, they let me be a mod
*

Posts: 43,768
Joined: Sep 2007
Reputation: 1066
I Root For: ASU
Location:
Post: #9
RE: OT: Want some outsider opinions on minor controversy among GS fans
In order for Arkansas to try this stunt with us, they'd have to first acknowledge our existence...so the chances are low that they'd try, and lower that we'd even let them.

I'm sure some pro pig business would let them in though.
05-03-2018 08:58 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Usajags Offline
Sun Belt Nationalist
*

Posts: 9,568
Joined: Dec 2011
Reputation: 271
I Root For: South Alabama
Location: Jaguar Nation
Post: #10
RE: OT: Want some outsider opinions on minor controversy among GS fans
If someone is a UGA fan over a GaSo fan,mno matter where they went to school, that will never change. I think it's pretty petty of a fan/alumni base to be upset because a coach if a rival school was the top speaker at a fundraiser.

This is a big, "GET OVER YOURSELF Southern!!!" Somethings are bigger then where someone coaches.

01-wingedeagle
05-04-2018 08:53 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
TrueBlueDrew Online
Heisman
*

Posts: 6,554
Joined: Jun 2014
Reputation: 486
I Root For: Jawjuh Suthen
Location: Enemy Turf
Post: #11
RE: OT: Want some outsider opinions on minor controversy among GS fans
(05-04-2018 08:53 AM)Usajags Wrote:  If someone is a UGA fan over a GaSo fan,mno matter where they went to school, that will never change. I think it's pretty petty of a fan/alumni base to be upset because a coach if a rival school was the top speaker at a fundraiser.

This is a big, "GET OVER YOURSELF Southern!!!" Somethings are bigger then where someone coaches.

01-wingedeagle

[Image: giphy.gif]
05-04-2018 09:01 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Advertisement


USACoN2012 Offline
1st String
*

Posts: 1,177
Joined: Oct 2009
Reputation: 23
I Root For: South Alabama
Location: Old Shell Road
Post: #12
RE: OT: Want some outsider opinions on minor controversy among GS fans
L'Arche hosts a "football preview" banquet at the Mitchell Center every year. The event typically includes speakers from Auburn, Alabama, and USA. Some of the guests this year are Trevor Matich of ESPN, new USA coach Steve Campbell, Auburn Defensive Coordinator Kevin Steele, and Alabama Director of Strength and Conditioning Scott Cochran.
(This post was last modified: 05-04-2018 09:05 AM by USACoN2012.)
05-04-2018 09:04 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Usajags Offline
Sun Belt Nationalist
*

Posts: 9,568
Joined: Dec 2011
Reputation: 271
I Root For: South Alabama
Location: Jaguar Nation
Post: #13
RE: OT: Want some outsider opinions on minor controversy among GS fans
(05-04-2018 09:04 AM)USACoN2012 Wrote:  L'Arche hosts a "football preview" banquet at the Mitchell Center every year. The event typically includes speakers from Auburn, Alabama, and USA. Some of the guests this year are Trevor Matich of ESPN, new USA coach Steve Campbell, Auburn Defensive Coordinator Kevin Steele, and Alabama Director of Strength and Conditioning Scott Cochran.

Been to this a few times, I've seen Pat Dye and Nick Saban as well.
05-04-2018 09:17 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Usajags Offline
Sun Belt Nationalist
*

Posts: 9,568
Joined: Dec 2011
Reputation: 271
I Root For: South Alabama
Location: Jaguar Nation
Post: #14
RE: OT: Want some outsider opinions on minor controversy among GS fans
(05-04-2018 09:01 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  
(05-04-2018 08:53 AM)Usajags Wrote:  If someone is a UGA fan over a GaSo fan,mno matter where they went to school, that will never change. I think it's pretty petty of a fan/alumni base to be upset because a coach if a rival school was the top speaker at a fundraiser.

This is a big, "GET OVER YOURSELF Southern!!!" Somethings are bigger then where someone coaches.

01-wingedeagle

[Image: giphy.gif]

The point is Smart will bring in more money, it's just the truth. You want to change things, get GaSo involved in the community, involved with the B&G Club, make those kids GaSo fans before UGA gets there hands on them. Also, I would assume GaSo is already involved with the B&G Club, which is why the event was held in your building anyway. Now get out and support these kids, because it's the right thing to do.
05-04-2018 09:25 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
TrueBlueDrew Online
Heisman
*

Posts: 6,554
Joined: Jun 2014
Reputation: 486
I Root For: Jawjuh Suthen
Location: Enemy Turf
Post: #15
RE: OT: Want some outsider opinions on minor controversy among GS fans
(05-04-2018 09:25 AM)Usajags Wrote:  
(05-04-2018 09:01 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  
(05-04-2018 08:53 AM)Usajags Wrote:  If someone is a UGA fan over a GaSo fan,mno matter where they went to school, that will never change. I think it's pretty petty of a fan/alumni base to be upset because a coach if a rival school was the top speaker at a fundraiser.

This is a big, "GET OVER YOURSELF Southern!!!" Somethings are bigger then where someone coaches.

01-wingedeagle

[Image: giphy.gif]

The point is Smart will bring in more money, it's just the truth. You want to change things, get GaSo involved in the community, involved with the B&G Club, make those kids GaSo fans before UGA gets there hands on them. Also, I would assume GaSo is already involved with the B&G Club, which is why the event was held in your building anyway. Now get out and support these kids, because it's the right thing to do.

Smart isn't speaking to kids about the B&G club. He's speaking to local adults about UGA football and all they do for kids for $125 a ticket and $75 for a photo op. You're right, he is going to bring more money to the cause and I said in another post that that was a good thing.

The problem a lot of GS fans have is that those people who will pay $200 to hear Smart speak and take a picture with him wouldn't do the same if say Coach Lunsford were to be the speaker even if it's for a good cause. It's a symptom of a much larger issue that schools like GS, App, and StAte have been battling for decades.

I'll give you a better example of what I mean. Last January when UGA was gearing up to play in the big game, The Statesboro Chamber of Commerce posted on facebook in Bulldog attire asking local businesses to show their Bulldog pride for the day. Even though several of them hold GS degrees, even though the economy of Statesboro is supported by GS, they would rather support a different university that wouldn't even be able to find Statesboro on a map. In their minds, UGA football is about a "state pride" thing and Georgia Southern football is akin to high school football, just not the same thing. They took the post down when some higher ups at GS complained.
(This post was last modified: 05-04-2018 09:51 AM by TrueBlueDrew.)
05-04-2018 09:41 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Usajags Offline
Sun Belt Nationalist
*

Posts: 9,568
Joined: Dec 2011
Reputation: 271
I Root For: South Alabama
Location: Jaguar Nation
Post: #16
RE: OT: Want some outsider opinions on minor controversy among GS fans
(05-04-2018 09:41 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  
(05-04-2018 09:25 AM)Usajags Wrote:  
(05-04-2018 09:01 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  
(05-04-2018 08:53 AM)Usajags Wrote:  If someone is a UGA fan over a GaSo fan,mno matter where they went to school, that will never change. I think it's pretty petty of a fan/alumni base to be upset because a coach if a rival school was the top speaker at a fundraiser.

This is a big, "GET OVER YOURSELF Southern!!!" Somethings are bigger then where someone coaches.

01-wingedeagle

[Image: giphy.gif]

The point is Smart will bring in more money, it's just the truth. You want to change things, get GaSo involved in the community, involved with the B&G Club, make those kids GaSo fans before UGA gets there hands on them. Also, I would assume GaSo is already involved with the B&G Club, which is why the event was held in your building anyway. Now get out and support these kids, because it's the right thing to do.

Smart isn't speaking to kids about the B&G club. He's speaking to local adults about UGA football and all they do for kids for $125 a ticket and $75 for a photo op. You're right, he is going to bring more money to the cause and I said in another post that that was a good thing.

The problem a lot of GS fans have is that those people who will pay $200 to hear Smart speak and take a picture with him wouldn't do the same if say Coach Lunsford were to be the speaker even if it's for a good cause. It's a symptom of a much larger issue that schools like GS, App, and StAte have been battling for decades.

It's the rockstar mentality, Smart isn't accessible daily to GaSo people, so it's a special event to have him in town, hear him speak, and get that picture. My guess would be that Lunsford is out in the community, and easily accessible to the local people, so doesn't carry that same "rockstar" feel and demand in the local market.
05-04-2018 09:53 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Advertisement


trueeagle98 Offline
1st String
*

Posts: 2,308
Joined: Apr 2013
Reputation: 34
I Root For: GS Eagles
Location: the Holy City
Post: #17
RE: OT: Want some outsider opinions on minor controversy among GS fans
The point is that it is being held on campus (right? Where exactly?). Should GS fans be upset with locals who couldn't be bothered with supporting the local university coming on campus to support a school that has probably done more harm to GS (and the local economy) than anything else.

I don't see a problem with Smart coming down and visiting the local fans (there are a lot), but to do it on our campus is a bit much even though it is for a good cause. Hmmm maybe Bulloch county should look at investing in a convention/arena?
05-04-2018 11:18 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
SkullyMaroo Online
Moderator
*

Posts: 11,221
Joined: Mar 2009
Reputation: 639
I Root For: South Alabama
Location: Mobile
Post: #18
RE: OT: Want some outsider opinions on minor controversy among GS fans
To me, Alabama and Auburn are going to be in Mobile. It’s the number 1 city of NFL talent per capita in the country so there’s a lot of reasons that could be made to be here. But I would be pretty disappointed if USA rolled out the welcome mat for them to be on our campus for things that didn’t benefit USA.
05-04-2018 11:32 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
TrueBlueDrew Online
Heisman
*

Posts: 6,554
Joined: Jun 2014
Reputation: 486
I Root For: Jawjuh Suthen
Location: Enemy Turf
Post: #19
RE: OT: Want some outsider opinions on minor controversy among GS fans
(05-04-2018 11:18 AM)trueeagle98 Wrote:  The point is that it is being held on campus (right? Where exactly?). Should GS fans be upset with locals who couldn't be bothered with supporting the local university coming on campus to support a school that has probably done more harm to GS (and the local economy) than anything else.

I don't see a problem with Smart coming down and visiting the local fans (there are a lot), but to do it on our campus is a bit much even though it is for a good cause. Hmmm maybe Bulloch county should look at investing in a convention/arena?

The fundraiser is being held at the PAC, but I totally agree that Bulloch County needs to invest in a convocation center that can hold events like this so that our facilities aren't being taken by things that don't benefit our university. Georgia Southern has already told the city that we would be more than happy to help support such a project but the city needs to match what we put into it.
05-04-2018 12:07 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
OsageJ Offline
Sun Belt Nationalist
*

Posts: 7,972
Joined: May 2002
Reputation: 423
I Root For: stAte
Location:
Post: #20
RE: OT: Want some outsider opinions on minor controversy among GS fans
If we have a pig on campus I want it laying on a platter with an apple in its mouth.
05-04-2018 12:30 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Post Reply 




User(s) browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)


Copyright © 2002-2024 Collegiate Sports Nation Bulletin Board System (CSNbbs), All Rights Reserved.
CSNbbs is an independent fan site and is in no way affiliated to the NCAA or any of the schools and conferences it represents.
This site monetizes links. FTC Disclosure.
We allow third-party companies to serve ads and/or collect certain anonymous information when you visit our web site. These companies may use non-personally identifiable information (e.g., click stream information, browser type, time and date, subject of advertisements clicked or scrolled over) during your visits to this and other Web sites in order to provide advertisements about goods and services likely to be of greater interest to you. These companies typically use a cookie or third party web beacon to collect this information. To learn more about this behavioral advertising practice or to opt-out of this type of advertising, you can visit http://www.networkadvertising.org.
Powered By MyBB, © 2002-2024 MyBB Group.