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RE: Mueller: possibllity of presidential subpoena
(05-01-2018 11:14 PM)shere khan Wrote:  
(05-01-2018 10:04 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  
(05-01-2018 09:03 PM)bullet Wrote:  [Mueller’s] subpoena would never hold. He has no such authority without very specific evidence.
Depends who the judge is. There are lots of judges at all levels of the judicial branch who would crave the chance to destroy Trump if given the slightest pretext. They might get that opportunity or they might not. We shall see

this is why we have separation of powers. Very dangerous precedent otherwise
Quite so.

But even with separation of powers, there are plenty of judges who would act in the way I described.
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(05-01-2018 09:45 PM)cb4029 Wrote:  It's like you guys are in here praying nothing goes against Trump. It's funny.

I've actually seen a few principled liberals call this for what it is. You're obviously not one of them.
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RE: Mueller: possibllity of presidential subpoena
(05-02-2018 05:07 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  
(05-01-2018 09:03 PM)bullet Wrote:  His subpoena would never hold. He has no such authority without very specific evidence.

How do you know what his evidence is?

Be very specific.....03-lmfao

You guys don’t even hold yourselves to any standard. You don’t know.

Every possibility has been floated by the MSM. None of them match that level of evidence.
05-02-2018 06:22 AM
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(05-02-2018 06:01 AM)TechRocks Wrote:  
(05-01-2018 09:45 PM)cb4029 Wrote:  It's like you guys are in here praying nothing goes against Trump. It's funny.

I've actually seen a few principled liberals call this for what it is. You're obviously not one of them.

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RE: Mueller: possibllity of presidential subpoena
(05-02-2018 07:17 AM)cb4029 Wrote:  
(05-02-2018 06:01 AM)TechRocks Wrote:  
(05-01-2018 09:45 PM)cb4029 Wrote:  It's like you guys are in here praying nothing goes against Trump. It's funny.

I've actually seen a few principled liberals call this for what it is. You're obviously not one of them.

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And that would be relative, how?
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Ohh. How would that be relevant??????

Let’s brains storm.....
05-02-2018 07:41 AM
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RE: Mueller: possibllity of presidential subpoena
(05-02-2018 07:41 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Ohh. How would that be relevant??????

Let’s brains storm.....
Hillary did worse. Lol. Trump didn't
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(05-02-2018 07:41 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Ohh. How would that be relevant??????

Let’s brains storm.....

Okay, I'll go first. One involved an actual crime, the other didn't.

Your turn.
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Mach, your president tweets

Donald J. Trump
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There was no Collusion (it is a Hoax) and there is no Obstruction of Justice (that is a setup & trap). What there is is Negotiations going on with North Korea over Nuclear War, Negotiations going on with China over Trade Deficits, Negotiations on NAFTA, and much more. Witch Hunt!

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Trump needs to tell Bueller to take a hike.


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(05-03-2018 12:07 AM)Jjoey52 Wrote:  Trump needs to tell Bueller to take a hike.


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Unfortunately he does because he is a snake. America and the rule of law needs him to stay right where he is at.
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(05-03-2018 07:46 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  
(05-03-2018 12:07 AM)Jjoey52 Wrote:  Trump needs to tell Bueller to take a hike.


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Unfortunately he does because he is a snake. America and the rule of law needs him to stay right where he is at.

you can only hope that would happen.....

he hasn't, he won't, and no matter how hard the left presses buttons, he's simply going to continue to fk with all the bs tossed his way....

y'all thought ol' boy was just some schmuck.....

all he does is get things done and slaps 'em silly along the way....

lmmfao....
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(05-01-2018 08:19 PM)ODU BLUE Wrote:  We need a list of politicians that signed on to this protect Mueller bill. They need to be voted out of Washington.

Why not be safe and just vote them all out?
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Why wouldn’t you want to protect Mueller. Everything you at assuming is being fed to you by people who are trying to deceive you. You know nothing about Mueller or his motivations at this point in time. Everything you have is speculation. Everything.


That’s the reason we have to wait for his report.
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(05-03-2018 08:46 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Why wouldn’t you want to protect Mueller. Everything you at assuming is being fed to you by people who are trying to deceive you. You know nothing about Mueller or his motivations at this point in time. Everything you have is speculation. Everything.


That’s the reason we have to wait for his report.

Why does Mueller need protecting? For over a year he's been going down every rabbit hole and setting every possible perjury trap possible. He has assembled TEAM TAINT, who's currently getting skull drug by a judge over their handling of evidence in the Flynn case.

America needs protection from Mueller.
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(05-03-2018 08:46 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Why wouldn’t you want to protect Mueller. Everything you at assuming is being fed to you by people who are trying to deceive you. You know nothing about Mueller or his motivations at this point in time. Everything you have is speculation. Everything.


That’s the reason we have to wait for his report.

Brilliantly ploy you have there Mach. Tell everyone one to wait while you infect the board with garbage from the speculation of the MSM. You do troll so well.
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Mueller: possibllity of presidential subpoena
(05-03-2018 08:46 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Why wouldn’t you want to protect Mueller. Everything you at assuming is being fed to you by people who are trying to deceive you. You know nothing about Mueller or his motivations at this point in time. Everything you have is speculation. Everything.


That’s the reason we have to wait for his report.


This is not a non partisan panel, it is just a bunch of lib Hillary donors on a fishing trip. If it was a real investigation I might agree with you, but not with these hacks.


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So I got curious and researched subpoenas and subpoenaing a sitting President.

Mueller would have a tough row to hoe. Meaning that he could subpoena Trump, however the legalities of it could go to the Supreme Court to decide if it was legal.

Nixon was subpoenaed but he was no longer the president and had a pardon in hand IIRC.

I think the way I understood is that Mueller can subpoena for documents, which he has and he can subpoena only if he can prove criminal intent I could be wrong and hopefully one of the lawyers here can correct me.
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(05-03-2018 08:49 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  
(05-03-2018 08:46 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Why wouldn’t you want to protect Mueller. Everything you at assuming is being fed to you by people who are trying to deceive you. You know nothing about Mueller or his motivations at this point in time. Everything you have is speculation. Everything.


That’s the reason we have to wait for his report.

Why does Mueller need protecting? For over a year he's been going down every rabbit hole and setting every possible perjury trap possible. He has assembled TEAM TAINT, who's currently getting skull drug by a judge over their handling of evidence in the Flynn case.

America needs protection from Mueller.

America needs protection from the Muellers, Clappers, Yates, etc. We had totalitarians running our FBI and intelligence agencies and a bunch scattered through the DOJ.
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(05-03-2018 09:49 AM)gdunn Wrote:  So I got curious and researched subpoenas and subpoenaing a sitting President.

Mueller would have a tough row to hoe. Meaning that he could subpoena Trump, however the legalities of it could go to the Supreme Court to decide if it was legal.

Nixon was subpoenaed but he was no longer the president and had a pardon in hand IIRC.

I think the way I understood is that Mueller can subpoena for documents, which he has and he can subpoena only if he can prove criminal intent I could be wrong and hopefully one of the lawyers here can correct me.

w/o looking it up, they've already turned over 1 MILLION documents......as opposed to the DOJ releasing what has been requested by congress.....

what a CF all this bs is.....
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