Quote:"I tell [clients] on my word of honor that what you tell me is sacrosanct," he said. "And now they say, just based on probable cause ... they can burst into the office, grab all the computers, and then give it to another FBI agent and say, 'You're the firewall. We want you now to read all these confidential communications, tell us which ones we can get and which ones we can't get.'"

"If this were Hillary Clinton being investigated and they went into her lawyer's office, the ACLU would be on every television station in America, jumping up and down," he added.

"The deafening silence from the ACLU and civil libertarians about the intrusion into the lawyer-client confidentiality is really appalling," Dershowitz said.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/...-relations

The FBI not only did not go into the law offices of Cankles' attorneys, they gave them immunity for their interviews...........same interviews where no written notes were taken nor recordings made, and nothing of substance was apparently offered-up on Cankles.

Situation normal. Carry on.

Ya think? This is some scary **** folks.

Dershowitz...further proving he's been reduced to nothing more than a Fox noise shill.

C'mon guys...think a little here. There is NO WAY all the people in the highest positions in the FBI and the Justice Department would have authorized this if they did not have the goods on Cohen.

Best to prepare yourself now. The guy is toast. You don't order this on the personal lawyer of a sitting president on a whim..or as trump likes to yell, A WITCH HUNT!

(04-10-2018 09:05 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Dershowitz...further proving he's been reduced to nothing more than a Fox noise shill.

C'mon guys...think a little here. There is NO WAY all the people in the highest positions in the FBI and the Justice Department would have authorized this if they did not have the goods on Cohen.

Best to prepare yourself now. The guy is toast. You don't order this on the personal lawyer of a sitting president on a whim..or as trump likes to yell, A WITCH HUNT!

(04-10-2018 09:05 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Dershowitz...further proving he's been reduced to nothing more than a Fox noise shill.

C'mon guys...think a little here. There is NO WAY all the people in the highest positions in the FBI and the Justice Department would have authorized this if they did not have the goods on Cohen.

Best to prepare yourself now. The guy is toast. You don't order this on the personal lawyer of a sitting president on a whim..or as trump likes to yell, A WITCH HUNT!

Indeed! Listen to Comrade Redwing! All know of the virtue of rule by the State over the People. Soon the State will again rule the People by benevolent force!

Redwing's motto: Show me the man, I'll show you the crime.

I really do get the rights anger about Hillary. If I were a con I'd feel the same way. Shady indeed. However, the logic can't then become "you didn't investigate one crook, so you can't investigate another one".

Being a Lefty my point of view is obviously skewed one way and I see things differently.

In my opinion the big difference between Trump and Clinton is Clinton was smart enough not to piss off the establishment. She is a crook, but she works within the informal rules of D.C. politics, so she gets a pass.

Trump does not. He's very abrasive and in your face about his conduct and this brings attention to politicians in general. He's still a crook, just like all the others, he just made the cardinal sin of challenging all the other crooks.

They both need to go to jail.

(04-10-2018 09:20 AM)Old Dominion Wrote:  In my opinion the big difference between Trump and Clinton is Clinton was smart enough not to piss off the establishment. She is a crook, but she works within the informal rules of D.C. politics, so she gets a pass.

Well, there ya have it folks. A poster who has probably laughed at us and called us crazy for talking about the swamp, just admits that it exists, that its inhabitants make the rules, and if you don't toe the line, you get your ass in a bind.

So there's the establishment and its laws, and the laws for everyone else.

(04-10-2018 09:20 AM)Old Dominion Wrote:  In my opinion the big difference between Trump and Clinton is Clinton was smart enough not to piss off the establishment.

As a Lefty, you don't seem to understand that it IS the Establishment that is crooked and needs to be destroyed in order to preserve this Republic. Those that work within the Establishment become tainted by it. It is evil, bloated, corrupted, and a self-feeding mess that at least Trump sees for what it is and is trying to prune it back. It's also why they are coming after him.

And I'm guessing you're okay with that, right OD?

Deroshowitz right on as usual. It's funny that the left has gone so far to the extreme that they think he's on the right lol. Mueller is living up to his reputation in the legal community. It's not a good one.

LOL. Dershowitz supports freedom? LOL.

(04-10-2018 09:20 AM)Old Dominion Wrote:  In my opinion the big difference between Trump and Clinton is Clinton was smart enough not to piss off the establishment. She is a crook, but she works within the informal rules of D.C. politics, so she gets a pass.

Which is why we grownups in the room are blowing this thing up.

The only ESTABLISHMENT is in the heads of those committing sedition against the US.

They can be pissed off. From a view which includes one hour of outside activity per day.

Its a sorry state of affairs that libturds are ok with this. But, team over country.

(04-10-2018 09:20 AM)Old Dominion Wrote:  I really do get the rights anger about Hillary. If I were a con I'd feel the same way. Shady indeed. However, the logic can't then become "you didn't investigate one crook, so you can't investigate another one".

Being a Lefty my point of view is obviously skewed one way and I see things differently.

In my opinion the big difference between Trump and Clinton is Clinton was smart enough not to piss off the establishment. She is a crook, but she works within the informal rules of D.C. politics, so she gets a pass.

Trump does not. He's very abrasive and in your face about his conduct and this brings attention to politicians in general. He's still a crook, just like all the others, he just made the cardinal sin of challenging all the other crooks.

They both need to go to jail.

This post is really priceless, in so many ways.

Lawyers aren't special. They don't get a free pass the rest of us don't enjoy. If there's cause to investigate one, investigate.

(04-10-2018 09:25 AM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  

(04-10-2018 09:20 AM)Old Dominion Wrote:  In my opinion the big difference between Trump and Clinton is Clinton was smart enough not to piss off the establishment.

As a Lefty, you don't seem to understand that it IS the Establishment that is crooked and needs to be destroyed in order to preserve this Republic. Those that work within the Establishment become tainted by it. It is evil, bloated, corrupted, and a self-feeding mess that at least Trump sees for what it is and is trying to prune it back. It's also why they are coming after him.

I absolutely understand. I simply don't believe you can put a crook in office and expect him to make any meaningful changes. In fact, based on his cabinet appointments, it looks like he's dragged us even further into the swamp.

You guys want to focus on the "good" these people are doing within the agency's, but fail to acknowledge how they are profiting in their positions. They are thieves in sheeps clothing.

(04-10-2018 09:32 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(04-10-2018 09:20 AM)Old Dominion Wrote:  In my opinion the big difference between Trump and Clinton is Clinton was smart enough not to piss off the establishment. She is a crook, but she works within the informal rules of D.C. politics, so she gets a pass.

Which is why we grownups in the room are blowing this thing up.

The only ESTABLISHMENT is in the heads of those committing sedition against the US.

They can be pissed off. From a view which includes one hour of outside activity per day.

Its a sorry state of affairs that libturds are ok with this. But, team over country.

Acknowledging reality is not the same as being OK with it. I'm not OK with it.

(04-10-2018 09:36 AM)Paul M Wrote:  Lawyers aren't special. They don't get a free pass the rest of us don't enjoy. If there's cause to investigate one, investigate.

Actually, according to the constitution, lawyers who are represnting someone on a case ARE special. Which is why there are special procedures for performing a raid on them, including stating in those procedures that you will not raid if you can secure the information with a subpoena.

Your hatred of Trump has turned you away from the constitution. Sad.

(04-10-2018 09:36 AM)Old Dominion Wrote:  

(04-10-2018 09:25 AM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  

(04-10-2018 09:20 AM)Old Dominion Wrote:  In my opinion the big difference between Trump and Clinton is Clinton was smart enough not to piss off the establishment.

As a Lefty, you don't seem to understand that it IS the Establishment that is crooked and needs to be destroyed in order to preserve this Republic. Those that work within the Establishment become tainted by it. It is evil, bloated, corrupted, and a self-feeding mess that at least Trump sees for what it is and is trying to prune it back. It's also why they are coming after him.

I absolutely understand. I simply don't believe you can put a crook in office and expect him to make any meaningful changes. In fact, based on his cabinet appointments, it looks like he's dragged us even further into the swamp.

You guys want to focus on the "good" these people are doing within the agency's, but fail to acknowledge how they are profiting in their positions. They are thieves in sheeps clothing.

Compared to whom? Please point me to the paragons of virtue that the previous administration appointed to high office that are so much better.

All politicians are crocks, and so are their flunkies!

I don't expect people to be perfect or even good, but I do expect my government to be limited and small so that imperfect people can't benefit from overly powerful government institutions. If Trump kills off just one of these bloated fat-cow government agencies I'll be thrilled. If he can kill off the FBI, even better.

(04-10-2018 09:36 AM)Old Dominion Wrote:  

(04-10-2018 09:25 AM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  

(04-10-2018 09:20 AM)Old Dominion Wrote:  In my opinion the big difference between Trump and Clinton is Clinton was smart enough not to piss off the establishment.

As a Lefty, you don't seem to understand that it IS the Establishment that is crooked and needs to be destroyed in order to preserve this Republic. Those that work within the Establishment become tainted by it. It is evil, bloated, corrupted, and a self-feeding mess that at least Trump sees for what it is and is trying to prune it back. It's also why they are coming after him.

I absolutely understand. I simply don't believe you can put a crook in office and expect him to make any meaningful changes. In fact, based on his cabinet appointments, it looks like he's dragged us even further into the swamp.

You guys want to focus on the "good" these people are doing within the agency's, but fail to acknowledge how they are profiting in their positions. They are thieves in sheeps clothing.

As a capitalist, I believe everyone should profit from their work. Those profits should be legal, that's to say, if they're profiting illegally, they should face the music.

Of course, you're on record as saying that as long as they don't upset the establishment, then they can be crooks. I don't agree with you. You're wrong. The laws are to be observed by everyone, not administered by chosen few.