Never doubt this guy. Top political pundit & forecaster out there, IMO. I'll put his intuition up against muh nate's models any day of the week.

"They have dug into half a dozen, different people who are literally in Trump's inner circle, and as far as anyone knows, they didn't find any evidence that Trump was aware of any wrong doing, ordered any wrong doing, or did himself anything wrong. That is an exoneration of Donald Trump right there. It's an exoneration!"

(04-04-2018 10:04 AM)Kronke Wrote:  Never doubt this guy. Top political pundit & forecaster out there, IMO. I'll put his intuition up against muh nate's models any day of the week.

"They have dug into half a dozen, different people who are literally in Trump's inner circle, and as far as anyone knows, they didn't find any evidence that Trump was aware of any wrong doing, ordered any wrong doing, or did himself anything wrong. That is an exoneration of Donald Trump right there. It's an exoneration!"

Russian collusion is pure BS. It's a hoax fabricated by Cankles and the rest of that wretched crew who refuse to accept responsibility for their own failures.

The only thing I've read that gives me pause in all of this is that Trump was supposedly involved in the drafting of a response, or offical comment, about Trump Jr's meeting with the Russians who promised dirt on Cankles. If the official comment was intentionally misleading or contained inaccurate information, he could face some exposure there from Mueller. It's sad really that we've come to this.

Obama stands before the American people and LIES......."you like your plan, you can keep your plan"........knowing full-well that was a lie, but if Trump twisted words about a meeting his son had with Russians promising dirt on Cankles, all hell will break loose if Mueller is given the chance.

Phuck 'em, phuck the whole bunch of 'em and the horses they rode in on. Horowitz and Huber need to pound these mofer's like there's no tomorrow.

(04-04-2018 10:33 AM)TechRocks Wrote:  

(04-04-2018 10:04 AM)Kronke Wrote:  Never doubt this guy. Top political pundit & forecaster out there, IMO. I'll put his intuition up against muh nate's models any day of the week.

"They have dug into half a dozen, different people who are literally in Trump's inner circle, and as far as anyone knows, they didn't find any evidence that Trump was aware of any wrong doing, ordered any wrong doing, or did himself anything wrong. That is an exoneration of Donald Trump right there. It's an exoneration!"

Russian collusion is pure BS. It's a hoax fabricated by Cankles and the rest of that wretched crew who refuse to accept responsibility for their own failures.

The only thing I've read that gives me pause in all of this is that Trump was supposedly involved in the drafting of a response, or offical comment, about Trump Jr's meeting with the Russians who promised dirt on Cankles. If the official comment was intentionally misleading or contained inaccurate information, he could face some exposure there from Mueller. It's sad really that we've come to this.

Obama stands before the American people and LIES......."you like your plan, you can keep your plan"........knowing full-well that was a lie, but if Trump twisted words about a meeting his son had with Russians promising dirt on Cankles, all hell will break loose if Mueller is given the chance.

Phuck 'em, phuck the whole bunch of 'em and the horses they rode in on. Horowitz and Huber need to pound these mofer's like there's no tomorrow.

Politicians lying in a public statement is not a crime. Its everyday operating procedure.

(04-04-2018 09:06 AM)TechRocks Wrote:  

(04-04-2018 08:31 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(04-04-2018 06:49 AM)solohawks Wrote:  If he is not a criminal target after almost 1 full year then is it fair to say he didn't do anything criminal??

And most likely this is just a trap to get trump to an interview without a subpoena, where he'll run off at the mouth and incriminate himself...pretty much like he's done every time he's deposed under oath.

Quote:Wisenberg, who interviewed Clinton about allegations that he obstructed justice, said Trump has handled himself well in previous depositions but should be cautious.

"I think he would do much better than people think," Wisenberg said. "But there are plenty of instances where a guy walks into a grand jury a subject. He gets out and is told: 'Guess what, you're a target now.' "

Huh? What does that have to do with trump?

Besides...

Quote:"I think he would do much better than people think," Wisenberg said. "But there are plenty of instances where a guy walks into a grand jury a subject. He gets out and is told: 'Guess what, you're a target now.' "

Trumps lawyers should just tell Mula to go pound sand and to quit harassing the president. Because that's what it's come to. They just want an "AHA" moment to continue. This is so bad that he Mula could probably get me to confess to something and I'm not even a politician.

(04-04-2018 11:32 AM)olliebaba Wrote:  Trumps lawyers should just tell Mula to go pound sand and to quit harassing the president. Because that's what it's come to. They just want an "AHA" moment to continue. This is so bad that he Mula could probably get me to confess to something and I'm not even a politician.

Pointless. Mueller can just subpoena him. And might regardless.

(04-04-2018 11:24 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Huh? What does that have to do with trump?

Quote:Wisenberg, who interviewed Clinton about allegations that he obstructed justice, said Trump has handled himself well in previous depositions but should be cautious.

(04-04-2018 08:45 AM)appst89 Wrote:  

(04-04-2018 08:31 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(04-04-2018 06:49 AM)solohawks Wrote:  If he is not a criminal target after almost 1 full year then is it fair to say he didn't do anything criminal??

There is no criminal statue for collusion, right?

And most likely this is just a trap to get trump to an interview without a subpoena, where he'll run off at the mouth and incriminate himself...pretty much like he's done every time he's deposed under oath.

Until you hear it directly from Mueller's mouth, I would suggest assuming nothing at this point.

In other words, they have nothing and they are fishing. Just as it has been from the beginning. It looks as if this coup attempt may be beginning to fall apart, but the desperation of the perpetrators (or should that be perpe-TRAITORS?) cannot be underestimated.

And it was all started on a lie to begin with. Fired Comey leaking classified schit to his professor buddy to give to the press.

(04-04-2018 11:33 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(04-04-2018 11:32 AM)olliebaba Wrote:  Trumps lawyers should just tell Mula to go pound sand and to quit harassing the president. Because that's what it's come to. They just want an "AHA" moment to continue. This is so bad that he Mula could probably get me to confess to something and I'm not even a politician.

Pointless. Mueller can just subpoena him. And might regardless.

And the president can refuse to answer questions.

(04-04-2018 11:33 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(04-04-2018 11:32 AM)olliebaba Wrote:  Trumps lawyers should just tell Mula to go pound sand and to quit harassing the president. Because that's what it's come to. They just want an "AHA" moment to continue. This is so bad that he Mula could probably get me to confess to something and I'm not even a politician.

Pointless. Mueller can just subpoena him. And might regardless.

Based on what? Just cause?

He’s just told him he’s not under criminal investigation, what could possibly warrant a subpoena?

(04-04-2018 10:40 AM)bullet Wrote:  Politicians lying in a public statement is not a crime.

It should be. Their lies have far-reaching effects that can cripple our nation.

(04-04-2018 12:08 PM)imjustafatkid Wrote:  

(04-04-2018 10:40 AM)bullet Wrote:  Politicians lying in a public statement is not a crime.

It should be. Their lies have far-reaching effects that can cripple our nation.

So can your lies. Should it be a crime when you lie?

"Hands up. Don't shoot."

(04-04-2018 11:38 AM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(04-04-2018 08:45 AM)appst89 Wrote:  

(04-04-2018 08:31 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(04-04-2018 06:49 AM)solohawks Wrote:  If he is not a criminal target after almost 1 full year then is it fair to say he didn't do anything criminal??

There is no criminal statue for collusion, right?

And most likely this is just a trap to get trump to an interview without a subpoena, where he'll run off at the mouth and incriminate himself...pretty much like he's done every time he's deposed under oath.

Until you hear it directly from Mueller's mouth, I would suggest assuming nothing at this point.

In other words, they have nothing and they are fishing. Just as it has been from the beginning. It looks as if this coup attempt may be beginning to fall apart, but the desperation of the perpetrators (or should that be perpe-TRAITORS?) cannot be underestimated.

And it was all started on a lie to begin with. Fired Comey leaking classified schit to his professor buddy to give to the press.

Complete and total lie.

(04-04-2018 11:51 AM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(04-04-2018 11:33 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(04-04-2018 11:32 AM)olliebaba Wrote:  Trumps lawyers should just tell Mula to go pound sand and to quit harassing the president. Because that's what it's come to. They just want an "AHA" moment to continue. This is so bad that he Mula could probably get me to confess to something and I'm not even a politician.

Pointless. Mueller can just subpoena him. And might regardless.

Based on what? Just cause?

He’s just told him he’s not under criminal investigation, what could possibly warrant a subpoena?

Here's a good article on it.
https://www.vox.com/2018/3/15/16997474/m...obe-russia

(04-04-2018 12:49 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(04-04-2018 11:38 AM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(04-04-2018 08:45 AM)appst89 Wrote:  

(04-04-2018 08:31 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(04-04-2018 06:49 AM)solohawks Wrote:  If he is not a criminal target after almost 1 full year then is it fair to say he didn't do anything criminal??

There is no criminal statue for collusion, right?

And most likely this is just a trap to get trump to an interview without a subpoena, where he'll run off at the mouth and incriminate himself...pretty much like he's done every time he's deposed under oath.

Until you hear it directly from Mueller's mouth, I would suggest assuming nothing at this point.

In other words, they have nothing and they are fishing. Just as it has been from the beginning. It looks as if this coup attempt may be beginning to fall apart, but the desperation of the perpetrators (or should that be perpe-TRAITORS?) cannot be underestimated.

And it was all started on a lie to begin with. Fired Comey leaking classified schit to his professor buddy to give to the press.

Complete and total lie.

From what I read, Comey wrote seven memos and at least four of them have been classified by the FBI. Comey is said to have given at least four of the memos to his "attorney", who was initially identified by him as a friend, so that the could leak them to the press in the hopes of initiating a special prosecutor.

If all of the above is true, he leaked at least one classified document.

Can you expand on your opinion or are we to just believe you?

(04-04-2018 01:04 PM)TechRocks Wrote:  

(04-04-2018 12:49 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(04-04-2018 11:38 AM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(04-04-2018 08:45 AM)appst89 Wrote:  

(04-04-2018 08:31 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  There is no criminal statue for collusion, right?

And most likely this is just a trap to get trump to an interview without a subpoena, where he'll run off at the mouth and incriminate himself...pretty much like he's done every time he's deposed under oath.

Until you hear it directly from Mueller's mouth, I would suggest assuming nothing at this point.

In other words, they have nothing and they are fishing. Just as it has been from the beginning. It looks as if this coup attempt may be beginning to fall apart, but the desperation of the perpetrators (or should that be perpe-TRAITORS?) cannot be underestimated.

And it was all started on a lie to begin with. Fired Comey leaking classified schit to his professor buddy to give to the press.

Complete and total lie.

From what I read, Comey wrote seven memos and at least four of them have been classified by the FBI. Comey is said to have given at least four of the memos to his "attorney", who was initially identified by him as a friend, so that the could leak them to the press in the hopes of initiating a special prosecutor.

If all of the above is true, he leaked at least one classified document.

Can you expand on your opinion or are we to just believe you?

Can you provide a credible source that he leaked as much as one classified document to "his professor buddy?"

Quote:Just minutes before that accusatory tweet, the president had retweeted a “Fox & Friends” message that inaccurately claimed that “material James Comey leaked to a friend contained top secret information.” The Fox report was based on the Hill‘s story.

But the Hill report doesn’t say that. Rather, it says that Comey produced seven memos about his nine conversations with Trump regarding the FBI’s investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election. “Four of the memos had markings making clear they contained information classified at the secret or confidential level, according to officials directly familiar with the matter,” the Hill reported.

The report does not identify the memo leaked to a friend as among those that contained classified information, nor does it say which of the seven memos contained such information.

Quote:Comey said the memo he shared with a friend was unclassified. In his written testimony, Comey says of the Feb. 14 memo: “I immediately prepared an unclassified memo of the conversation about Flynn and discussed the matter with FBI senior leadership.”

“So you didn’t consider your memo or your sense of that conversation to be a government document?” Sen. Roy Blunt asked in the June 8 Senate hearing. “You considered it to be, somehow, your own personal document that you could share with the media as you wanted to through a friend?”

“Correct,” Comey said. “I understood this to be my recollection recorded of my conversation with the president. As a private citizen, I felt free to share that. I thought it important to get it out.”

Trump’s Unfounded Leak Claim

(04-04-2018 01:07 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(04-04-2018 01:04 PM)TechRocks Wrote:  

(04-04-2018 12:49 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(04-04-2018 11:38 AM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(04-04-2018 08:45 AM)appst89 Wrote:  In other words, they have nothing and they are fishing. Just as it has been from the beginning. It looks as if this coup attempt may be beginning to fall apart, but the desperation of the perpetrators (or should that be perpe-TRAITORS?) cannot be underestimated.

And it was all started on a lie to begin with. Fired Comey leaking classified schit to his professor buddy to give to the press.

Complete and total lie.

From what I read, Comey wrote seven memos and at least four of them have been classified by the FBI. Comey is said to have given at least four of the memos to his "attorney", who was initially identified by him as a friend, so that the could leak them to the press in the hopes of initiating a special prosecutor.

If all of the above is true, he leaked at least one classified document.

Can you expand on your opinion or are we to just believe you?

Can you provide a credible source that he leaked as much as one classified document to "his professor buddy?"

Quote:Just minutes before that accusatory tweet, the president had retweeted a “Fox & Friends” message that inaccurately claimed that “material James Comey leaked to a friend contained top secret information.” The Fox report was based on the Hill‘s story.

But the Hill report doesn’t say that. Rather, it says that Comey produced seven memos about his nine conversations with Trump regarding the FBI’s investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election. “Four of the memos had markings making clear they contained information classified at the secret or confidential level, according to officials directly familiar with the matter,” the Hill reported.

The report does not identify the memo leaked to a friend as among those that contained classified information, nor does it say which of the seven memos contained such information.

Trump’s Unfounded Leak Claim

So, we don't know if what you claim is a lie, is actually a lie?

Again, I've read that he leaked four of the seven memos, four of which, in part, dealt with classified information. That may have changed though I'm not aware of it.

(04-04-2018 01:07 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(04-04-2018 01:04 PM)TechRocks Wrote:  

(04-04-2018 12:49 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(04-04-2018 11:38 AM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(04-04-2018 08:45 AM)appst89 Wrote:  In other words, they have nothing and they are fishing. Just as it has been from the beginning. It looks as if this coup attempt may be beginning to fall apart, but the desperation of the perpetrators (or should that be perpe-TRAITORS?) cannot be underestimated.

And it was all started on a lie to begin with. Fired Comey leaking classified schit to his professor buddy to give to the press.

Complete and total lie.

From what I read, Comey wrote seven memos and at least four of them have been classified by the FBI. Comey is said to have given at least four of the memos to his "attorney", who was initially identified by him as a friend, so that the could leak them to the press in the hopes of initiating a special prosecutor.

If all of the above is true, he leaked at least one classified document.

Can you expand on your opinion or are we to just believe you?

Can you provide a credible source that he leaked as much as one classified document to "his professor buddy?"

Quote:Just minutes before that accusatory tweet, the president had retweeted a “Fox & Friends” message that inaccurately claimed that “material James Comey leaked to a friend contained top secret information.” The Fox report was based on the Hill‘s story.

But the Hill report doesn’t say that. Rather, it says that Comey produced seven memos about his nine conversations with Trump regarding the FBI’s investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election. “Four of the memos had markings making clear they contained information classified at the secret or confidential level, according to officials directly familiar with the matter,” the Hill reported.

The report does not identify the memo leaked to a friend as among those that contained classified information, nor does it say which of the seven memos contained such information.

Trump’s Unfounded Leak Claim

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/01/...swers.html

http://thefederalist.com/2018/01/24/cnn-...ied-memos/

https://www.rt.com/usa/415112-all-comey-...lassified/

“We have a sworn declaration from David Hardy who is the chief FOIA officer of the FBI that we obtained just in the last few days, and in that sworn declaration, Mr. Hardy says that all of Comey's memos ‒ all of them ‒ were classified at the time they were written, and they remain classified,” Farrell said.

(04-04-2018 12:18 PM)bullet Wrote:  So can your lies. Should it be a crime when you lie?

"Hands up. Don't shoot."

I think you have me confused for a leftist, but yes I certainly think inciting riots should be a criminal offense. I believe it is, even. Not sure why more people weren't arrested during those things.

It's also a crime for me to lie to federal investigators, or police in general, or prosecutors, or judges, or even elected officials (but they can lie to me with impunity).

mueller has started weening the seditionists off russia