RE: Tulane verbal commit Crabtree takes official visit to Memphis
(03-24-2018 08:26 PM)TripleA Wrote:
(03-24-2018 08:20 PM)Wheatshock Wrote:
(03-24-2018 07:29 PM)memphistiger89 Wrote:
(03-24-2018 06:39 PM)HuskyU Wrote: Poaching recruits from conference mates must be the new AAC trend with this, Lomax, and Wichita going after Akinjo.
I didn't know Crabtree had signed with Tulane. I thought he had just made a verbal commitment, which really doesn't mean anything.
What an indictment of our society.
Note: That was NOT meant as a shot at Memphis fans.
I agree. It is an indictment. Especially to old folks who grew up in a quite different, more polite and more honest culture and society.
Yeah, I agree except to the extent that it's frequently "old folks" who are whispering in the kids' ears. The 16 and 17 year olds didn't create that culture, they're just a part of it.
Like I said though, I agree with your statement that our culture in general has been degraded.
RE: Tulane verbal commit Crabtree takes official visit to Memphis
(03-24-2018 08:37 PM)cotton1991 Wrote:
(03-24-2018 08:26 PM)TripleA Wrote:
(03-24-2018 08:20 PM)Wheatshock Wrote:
(03-24-2018 07:29 PM)memphistiger89 Wrote:
(03-24-2018 06:39 PM)HuskyU Wrote: Poaching recruits from conference mates must be the new AAC trend with this, Lomax, and Wichita going after Akinjo.
I didn't know Crabtree had signed with Tulane. I thought he had just made a verbal commitment, which really doesn't mean anything.
What an indictment of our society.
Note: That was NOT meant as a shot at Memphis fans.
I agree. It is an indictment. Especially to old folks who grew up in a quite different, more polite and more honest culture and society.
Yeah, I agree except to the extent that it's frequently "old folks" who are whispering in the kids' ears. The 16 and 17 year olds didn't create that culture, they're just a part of it.
Like I said though, I agree with your statement that our culture in general has been degraded.
LOL. I'm thinking my version of old folks and yours are different. I grew up in the 1940s and '50s, so if you think I helped create today's society, you would be incorrect. My older daughter will be 50 next year.
(This post was last modified: 03-24-2018 08:51 PM by TripleA.)
RE: Tulane verbal commit Crabtree takes official visit to Memphis
(03-24-2018 08:20 PM)Wheatshock Wrote:
(03-24-2018 07:29 PM)memphistiger89 Wrote:
(03-24-2018 06:39 PM)HuskyU Wrote: Poaching recruits from conference mates must be the new AAC trend with this, Lomax, and Wichita going after Akinjo.
I didn't know Crabtree had signed with Tulane. I thought he had just made a verbal commitment, which really doesn't mean anything.
What an indictment of our society.
Note: That was NOT meant as a shot at Memphis fans.
I'm not saying it's right. It's just the reality of recruiting. Until a kid has signed, coaches go after them. Memphis isn't the only school showing interest in this kid.
RE: Tulane verbal commit Crabtree takes official visit to Memphis
(03-24-2018 09:16 PM)cotton1991 Wrote:
(03-24-2018 08:50 PM)TripleA Wrote:
(03-24-2018 08:37 PM)cotton1991 Wrote:
(03-24-2018 08:26 PM)TripleA Wrote:
(03-24-2018 08:20 PM)Wheatshock Wrote: What an indictment of our society.
Note: That was NOT meant as a shot at Memphis fans.
I agree. It is an indictment. Especially to old folks who grew up in a quite different, more polite and more honest culture and society.
Yeah, I agree except to the extent that it's frequently "old folks" who are whispering in the kids' ears. The 16 and 17 year olds didn't create that culture, they're just a part of it.
Like I said though, I agree with your statement that our culture in general has been degraded.
LOL. I'm thinking my version of old folks and yours are different. I grew up in the 1940s and '50s, so if you think I helped create today's society, you would be incorrect. My older daughter will be 50 next year.
I'm 67 and grew up at Reese St. and Midland in Buntyn. I didn't create this society and neither did you. My son is 40. But the folks who are whispering in those kids ears over the past 20 yrs are middle aged or beyond at this point. I dislike that culture as much as you apparently do, but I find it difficult to blame a 17 yr. old for the culture that a 60 yr. old Espn mogul, a shoe company executive, the entertainment industry, or a squillionaire NBA owner created.
I don't really disagree with that. I didn't make it clear, but I was just talking society in general, not specifically pointing any fingers at that kid, at all. In such a corrupt operation as college basketball, nobody in their right mind would blame the kids for that. But I was talking big picture society.
(This post was last modified: 03-24-2018 09:22 PM by TripleA.)
Note: That was NOT meant as a shot at Memphis fans.
I agree. It is an indictment. Especially to old folks who grew up in a quite different, more polite and more honest culture and society.
Yeah, I agree except to the extent that it's frequently "old folks" who are whispering in the kids' ears. The 16 and 17 year olds didn't create that culture, they're just a part of it.
Like I said though, I agree with your statement that our culture in general has been degraded.
LOL. I'm thinking my version of old folks and yours are different. I grew up in the 1940s and '50s, so if you think I helped create today's society, you would be incorrect. My older daughter will be 50 next year.
Did I say you were whispering in those kids' ears? Or that "old folks" as a whole were? No.
I'm 67 and grew up at Reese St. and Midland in Buntyn. I didn't create this society and neither did you. My son is 40. But the folks who have set up this sports-to-riches over the past 20 yrs are financialy powerful people, middle aged or beyond. It's a culture where it's every man for himself and the measure of a person is his wealth. Finagle a verbal commitment? Well, if you don't do it, the next guy will cut your throat, the coach will take off for a bigger payday anyway, etc.
I dislike that culture as much as you apparently do, but I find it difficult to assign that much blame for the culture to a 17 yr. old (maybe that wasn't your intention and I misread your post) without giving far more blame to a 60 yr. old Espn mogul, a shoe company executive, the entertainment industry, or a squillionaire NBA owner, or a 55 yr. old multi millionaire college coach, all of whom would most likely qualify as "old folks", certainly so by the standards of a junior in high school.
Again, perhaps we misread each others' posts.
(This post was last modified: 03-24-2018 09:48 PM by cotton1991.)
Note: That was NOT meant as a shot at Memphis fans.
I agree. It is an indictment. Especially to old folks who grew up in a quite different, more polite and more honest culture and society.
Yeah, I agree except to the extent that it's frequently "old folks" who are whispering in the kids' ears. The 16 and 17 year olds didn't create that culture, they're just a part of it.
Like I said though, I agree with your statement that our culture in general has been degraded.
LOL. I'm thinking my version of old folks and yours are different. I grew up in the 1940s and '50s, so if you think I helped create today's society, you would be incorrect. My older daughter will be 50 next year.
Did I say you were whispering in those kids' ears? Or that "old folks" as a whole were? No.
I'm 67 and grew up at Reese St. and Midland in Buntyn. I didn't create this society and neither did you. My son is 40. But the folks who have set up this sports-to-riches over the past 20 yrs are middle aged or beyond. I dislike that culture as much as you apparently do, but I find it difficult to blame a 17 yr. old for the culture without giving far more blame to a 60 yr. old Espn mogul, a shoe company executive, the entertainment industry, or a squillionaire NBA owner created, or a 55 yr. old multi millionaire college coach, all of whom would most likely qualify as "old folks", certainly so by the standards of a junior in high school.
Did you read my post #25? I told you I didn't make myself clear, and said I agreed with you, and the kids are not to blame. In fact, I never mentioned the kid. Again, I was talking society in general.
Somehow, you replied to my older post twice.
(This post was last modified: 03-24-2018 09:41 PM by TripleA.)
RE: Tulane verbal commit Crabtree takes official visit to Memphis
(03-24-2018 09:36 PM)TripleA Wrote:
(03-24-2018 09:33 PM)cotton1991 Wrote:
(03-24-2018 09:16 PM)cotton1991 Wrote:
(03-24-2018 08:50 PM)TripleA Wrote:
(03-24-2018 08:37 PM)cotton1991 Wrote: I agree. It is an indictment. Especially to old folks who grew up in a quite different, more polite and more honest culture and society.
Yeah, I agree except to the extent that it's frequently "old folks" who are whispering in the kids' ears. The 16 and 17 year olds didn't create that culture, they're just a part of it.
Like I said though, I agree with your statement that our culture in general has been degraded.
LOL. I'm thinking my version of old folks and yours are different. I grew up in the 1940s and '50s, so if you think I helped create today's society, you would be incorrect. My older daughter will be 50 next year.
Did I say you were whispering in those kids' ears? Or that "old folks" as a whole were? No.
I'm 67 and grew up at Reese St. and Midland in Buntyn. I didn't create this society and neither did you. My son is 40. But the folks who have set up this sports-to-riches over the past 20 yrs are middle aged or beyond. I dislike that culture as much as you apparently do, but I find it difficult to blame a 17 yr. old for the culture without giving far more blame to a 60 yr. old Espn mogul, a shoe company executive, the entertainment industry, or a squillionaire NBA owner created, or a 55 yr. old multi millionaire college coach, all of whom would most likely qualify as "old folks", certainly so by the standards of a junior in high school.
Did you read my post #25? I told you I didn't make myself clear, and said I agreed with you, and the kids are not to blame. In fact, I never mentioned the kid. Again, I was talking society in general.
Somehow, you replied to my older post twice.
Oops, never mind. Was obviously an old folks--er senior--moment. Deleted my first response . . . . . I think I did, lol.
(This post was last modified: 03-24-2018 09:59 PM by cotton1991.)
RE: Tulane verbal commit Crabtree takes official visit to Memphis
(03-24-2018 06:32 PM)TripleA Wrote: Crabtree's Senior mix tape. Sort of sets a lie to his lack of recruit ranking. Dude is a 6'6" SG with handles, and shot 47% and 45% from 3 in HS and at Hargrave, respectively.
RE: Tulane verbal commit Crabtree takes official visit to Memphis
(03-24-2018 09:58 PM)cotton1991 Wrote:
(03-24-2018 09:36 PM)TripleA Wrote:
(03-24-2018 09:33 PM)cotton1991 Wrote:
(03-24-2018 09:16 PM)cotton1991 Wrote:
(03-24-2018 08:50 PM)TripleA Wrote: Yeah, I agree except to the extent that it's frequently "old folks" who are whispering in the kids' ears. The 16 and 17 year olds didn't create that culture, they're just a part of it.
Like I said though, I agree with your statement that our culture in general has been degraded.
LOL. I'm thinking my version of old folks and yours are different. I grew up in the 1940s and '50s, so if you think I helped create today's society, you would be incorrect. My older daughter will be 50 next year.
Did I say you were whispering in those kids' ears? Or that "old folks" as a whole were? No.
I'm 67 and grew up at Reese St. and Midland in Buntyn. I didn't create this society and neither did you. My son is 40. But the folks who have set up this sports-to-riches over the past 20 yrs are middle aged or beyond. I dislike that culture as much as you apparently do, but I find it difficult to blame a 17 yr. old for the culture without giving far more blame to a 60 yr. old Espn mogul, a shoe company executive, the entertainment industry, or a squillionaire NBA owner created, or a 55 yr. old multi millionaire college coach, all of whom would most likely qualify as "old folks", certainly so by the standards of a junior in high school.
Did you read my post #25? I told you I didn't make myself clear, and said I agreed with you, and the kids are not to blame. In fact, I never mentioned the kid. Again, I was talking society in general.
Somehow, you replied to my older post twice.
Oops, never mind. Was obviously an old folks--er senior--moment. Deleted my first response . . . . . I think I did, lol.
All good. I do it every day.
(This post was last modified: 03-25-2018 11:22 AM by TripleA.)
RE: Tulane verbal commit Crabtree takes official visit to Memphis
Recruiting committed players is not the norm practice in hoops anyway (unlike football, when it is), much less a conference mate's.
Isn't he supposed to be landing Memphis area 5-stars?
We depend on recruits like this; Memphis doesn't (or shouldn't).
(This post was last modified: 03-26-2018 10:00 PM by DrBox.)
RE: Tulane verbal commit Crabtree takes official visit to Memphis
(03-26-2018 09:57 PM)DrBox Wrote: Recruiting committed players is not the norm practice in hoops anyway (unlike football, when it is), much less a conference mate's.
Isn't he supposed to be landing Memphis area 5-stars?
We depend on recruits like this; Memphis doesn't (or shouldn't).
I understand the sentiment. I would likely feel the same if the tables were turned. But if you think verbal commits are not recruited by CBB coaches, you just haven't had much experience with really good recruits. If he was signed, then you would likely keep him, and we wouldn't chase him. Lomax was a weird situation, once in a lifetime, perhaps. But unsigned good recruits in the spring, with so much coaching turnover, are going to be on lots of coaches' radars, verbal commit or not.
Unfortunately for Tulane, Crabtree is a great recruit who was just missed by most scouting services, but is now getting big attention. Penny was turned onto Crabtree by an NBA scout. His highlight tapes are eye-popping, extremely versatile, 6'6" SG, and he shoots almost 50% from 3. Memphis doesn't have anybody who can shoot 30% from 3.
And Memphis isn't the only one recruiting him now. Kansas, UCLA and WVU are among those with interest. We offered him. Hey, maybe he stays. But he definitely is no longer a secret.
(This post was last modified: 03-26-2018 10:14 PM by TripleA.)
RE: Tulane verbal commit Crabtree takes official visit to Memphis
I'm pretty sure Penny didn't twist his or his father's arm to arrange the visit. We should hear something soon. Still has to be considered a Tulane lean.
RE: Tulane verbal commit Crabtree takes official visit to Memphis
(03-26-2018 10:30 PM)MemphisTigerPawr Wrote: I'm pretty sure Penny didn't twist his or his father's arm to arrange the visit. We should hear something soon. Still has to be considered a Tulane lean.
RE: Tulane verbal commit Crabtree takes official visit to Memphis
(03-24-2018 09:58 PM)cotton1991 Wrote:
(03-24-2018 09:36 PM)TripleA Wrote:
(03-24-2018 09:33 PM)cotton1991 Wrote:
(03-24-2018 09:16 PM)cotton1991 Wrote:
(03-24-2018 08:50 PM)TripleA Wrote: Yeah, I agree except to the extent that it's frequently "old folks" who are whispering in the kids' ears. The 16 and 17 year olds didn't create that culture, they're just a part of it.
Like I said though, I agree with your statement that our culture in general has been degraded.
LOL. I'm thinking my version of old folks and yours are different. I grew up in the 1940s and '50s, so if you think I helped create today's society, you would be incorrect. My older daughter will be 50 next year.
Did I say you were whispering in those kids' ears? Or that "old folks" as a whole were? No.
I'm 67 and grew up at Reese St. and Midland in Buntyn. I didn't create this society and neither did you. My son is 40. But the folks who have set up this sports-to-riches over the past 20 yrs are middle aged or beyond. I dislike that culture as much as you apparently do, but I find it difficult to blame a 17 yr. old for the culture without giving far more blame to a 60 yr. old Espn mogul, a shoe company executive, the entertainment industry, or a squillionaire NBA owner created, or a 55 yr. old multi millionaire college coach, all of whom would most likely qualify as "old folks", certainly so by the standards of a junior in high school.
Did you read my post #25? I told you I didn't make myself clear, and said I agreed with you, and the kids are not to blame. In fact, I never mentioned the kid. Again, I was talking society in general.
Somehow, you replied to my older post twice.
Oops, never mind. Was obviously an old folks--er senior--moment. Deleted my first response . . . . . I think I did, lol.
LOL you two. Get a room...... and a coule of hot nurses.
RE: Tulane verbal commit Crabtree takes official visit to Memphis
(03-27-2018 05:15 AM)SadderBudweiser Wrote:
(03-24-2018 09:58 PM)cotton1991 Wrote:
(03-24-2018 09:36 PM)TripleA Wrote:
(03-24-2018 09:33 PM)cotton1991 Wrote:
(03-24-2018 09:16 PM)cotton1991 Wrote: LOL. I'm thinking my version of old folks and yours are different. I grew up in the 1940s and '50s, so if you think I helped create today's society, you would be incorrect. My older daughter will be 50 next year.
Did I say you were whispering in those kids' ears? Or that "old folks" as a whole were? No.
I'm 67 and grew up at Reese St. and Midland in Buntyn. I didn't create this society and neither did you. My son is 40. But the folks who have set up this sports-to-riches over the past 20 yrs are middle aged or beyond. I dislike that culture as much as you apparently do, but I find it difficult to blame a 17 yr. old for the culture without giving far more blame to a 60 yr. old Espn mogul, a shoe company executive, the entertainment industry, or a squillionaire NBA owner created, or a 55 yr. old multi millionaire college coach, all of whom would most likely qualify as "old folks", certainly so by the standards of a junior in high school.
Did you read my post #25? I told you I didn't make myself clear, and said I agreed with you, and the kids are not to blame. In fact, I never mentioned the kid. Again, I was talking society in general.
Somehow, you replied to my older post twice.
Oops, never mind. Was obviously an old folks--er senior--moment. Deleted my first response . . . . . I think I did, lol.
LOL you two. Get a room...... and a coule of hot nurses.
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Tulane verbal commit Crabtree takes official visit to Memphis
