(03-17-2018 11:20 AM)tigerjamesc Wrote:  I think he’d be a great get for ECU. He brings a 4 and 3 Star with him. Good coach for a slow build. Plus, he couldn’t beat ECU, so might as well join them

The last thing I want is a guy who you can question his fire and passion to coach and recruit. Going through the motions is what Lebo did for years and the reason we got so terrible. Obviously Tubby is far better than Lebo ever dreamed of being, but I could easily see him being content to just cash a check if we hired him.

(03-16-2018 06:34 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(03-12-2018 04:20 PM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  Oh Lawdy make it so...


T


...

Yeah?

My interest would be limited to any payback Tubby could inflict on his previous employer. Watching Tubby take an ECU team then beating Penny and the Beale Street Boys, would cause an acute world shortage of popcorn.




T


...

(03-17-2018 11:28 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(03-17-2018 11:20 AM)tigerjamesc Wrote:  I think he’d be a great get for ECU. He brings a 4 and 3 Star with him. Good coach for a slow build. Plus, he couldn’t beat ECU, so might as well join them

The last thing I want is a guy who you can question his fire and passion to coach and recruit. Going through the motions is what Lebo did for years and the reason we got so terrible. Obviously Tubby is far better than Lebo ever dreamed of being, but I could easily see him being content to just cash a check if we hired him.

http://archive.commercialappeal.com/spor...80321.html

Quote:“Today the University of Memphis has hired the most accomplished coach in our history,” U of M president David Rudd said in a press conference Thursday at FedExForum. “As we’ve mentioned in other hires, it is entirely about fit. It is about fit for our program, fit for our university and fit for this city. Tubby Smith is precisely the right coach at the right time for the University of Memphis.”

A three-time National Coach of the Year and the 2016 Big 12 Coach of the Year, Smith, 64, who won a national title at Kentucky in 1998, brings 25 years of Division 1 head coaching experience and one of the most respected names in college basketball.

Last Friday in Los Angeles, he received the John R. Wooden Legends of Coaching award at the College Basketball Awards ceremony. Seven days later, he had agreed to replace Josh Pastner as the 18th men’s basketball coach at Memphis, which will pay him $15.45 million over five years. Smith, who made $1.8 million at Texas Tech last year, will make $2.8 million this season, $2.9 million in 2017-18 and $3.25 million in the final three years.

You could do a lot worse...


T


...

I feel like Tubby would enjoy Murfreesboro and CUSA...make it happen MTSU.

I'd take Tubby. He lost all those players and still won 21. He still has it.

(03-17-2018 11:22 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  I'd take Tubby. He lost all those players and still won 21. He still has it.

Tubby is a great teaching coach, and the team improved quite a bit from the beginning of the year. Problem is, we had to start over with a whole new team, mostly Jucos, b/c we were supposed to lose no one after year one with Tubby, but the entire team transferred out on him (except 2 players).

We struggled early to beat the worst teams on our weak OOC schedule, and then of course lost to you guys, and then lost by 25 at home to USF. The two worst losses in the same season, ever.

And in 2 years, Tubby got zero Memphis recruits, even though 16 were ranked in the top 150 or so, iirc.

Oh, and Tubby never did a non-contractual interview, never did one thing to promote the program. His agent said on the way out that it wasn't Tubby's responsibility to worry about attendance, even though it is stated in his contract.

And throughout his tenure, Tubby lectured the fan base that our expectations were too high, this was not the Memphis of 10 years ago, etc.

And of those 21 wins, Tubby said, "We would have liked to go to the postseason, but we didn't beat anyone of significance." Well, we beat Houston, maybe he forgot that one, but otherwise...

So if all that stuff is okay, he's available.

(03-18-2018 05:50 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(03-17-2018 11:22 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  I'd take Tubby. He lost all those players and still won 21. He still has it.

Tubby is a great teaching coach, and the team improved quite a bit from the beginning of the year. Problem is, we had to start over with a whole new team, mostly Jucos, b/c we were supposed to lose no one after year one with Tubby, but the entire team transferred out on him (except 2 players).

We struggled early to beat the worst teams on our weak OOC schedule, and then of course lost to you guys, and then lost by 25 at home to USF. The two worst losses in the same season, ever.

And in 2 years, Tubby got zero Memphis recruits, even though 16 were ranked in the top 150 or so, iirc.

Oh, and Tubby never did a non-contractual interview, never did one thing to promote the program. His agent said on the way out that it wasn't Tubby's responsibility to worry about attendance, even though it is stated in his contract.

And throughout his tenure, Tubby lectured the fan base that our expectations were too high, this was not the Memphis of 10 years ago, etc.

And of those 21 wins, Tubby said, "We would have liked to go to the postseason, but we didn't beat anyone of significance." Well, we beat Houston, maybe he forgot that one, but otherwise...

So if all that stuff is okay, he's available.

We’re ECU. We just need to win.

(03-18-2018 07:09 AM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(03-18-2018 05:50 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(03-17-2018 11:22 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  I'd take Tubby. He lost all those players and still won 21. He still has it.

Tubby is a great teaching coach, and the team improved quite a bit from the beginning of the year. Problem is, we had to start over with a whole new team, mostly Jucos, b/c we were supposed to lose no one after year one with Tubby, but the entire team transferred out on him (except 2 players).

We struggled early to beat the worst teams on our weak OOC schedule, and then of course lost to you guys, and then lost by 25 at home to USF. The two worst losses in the same season, ever.

And in 2 years, Tubby got zero Memphis recruits, even though 16 were ranked in the top 150 or so, iirc.

Oh, and Tubby never did a non-contractual interview, never did one thing to promote the program. His agent said on the way out that it wasn't Tubby's responsibility to worry about attendance, even though it is stated in his contract.

And throughout his tenure, Tubby lectured the fan base that our expectations were too high, this was not the Memphis of 10 years ago, etc.

And of those 21 wins, Tubby said, "We would have liked to go to the postseason, but we didn't beat anyone of significance." Well, we beat Houston, maybe he forgot that one, but otherwise...

So if all that stuff is okay, he's available.

We’re ECU. We just need to win.

We could do worse..but..it looks like Tubby's energy has wained with his age. Im not sure we need more low energy in Minges. We had a dose of that for almost a decade.

UConn Huskies made amends with Randy Edsall I think ECU can do the same for a game football coach. Bring back your former black football coach who played there the man will Revitalize ECU football for sure .
I can't think of his name right now I'm sorry it's an over 50 thing

Sent from my SM-J700T using CSNbbs mobile app

ECU can attract a big-name BB coach all well and good I think it's going to be difficult without the administration making some major changes

Sent from my SM-J700T using CSNbbs mobile app

(03-18-2018 09:46 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(03-18-2018 07:09 AM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(03-18-2018 05:50 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(03-17-2018 11:22 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  I'd take Tubby. He lost all those players and still won 21. He still has it.

Tubby is a great teaching coach, and the team improved quite a bit from the beginning of the year. Problem is, we had to start over with a whole new team, mostly Jucos, b/c we were supposed to lose no one after year one with Tubby, but the entire team transferred out on him (except 2 players).

We struggled early to beat the worst teams on our weak OOC schedule, and then of course lost to you guys, and then lost by 25 at home to USF. The two worst losses in the same season, ever.

And in 2 years, Tubby got zero Memphis recruits, even though 16 were ranked in the top 150 or so, iirc.

Oh, and Tubby never did a non-contractual interview, never did one thing to promote the program. His agent said on the way out that it wasn't Tubby's responsibility to worry about attendance, even though it is stated in his contract.

And throughout his tenure, Tubby lectured the fan base that our expectations were too high, this was not the Memphis of 10 years ago, etc.

And of those 21 wins, Tubby said, "We would have liked to go to the postseason, but we didn't beat anyone of significance." Well, we beat Houston, maybe he forgot that one, but otherwise...

So if all that stuff is okay, he's available.

We’re ECU. We just need to win.

We could do worse..but..it looks like Tubby's energy has wained with his age. Im not sure we need more low energy in Minges. We had a dose of that for almost a decade.

Tubby definitely gives the impression of being low energy.

Reminds me of another thing. When Tubby arrived in April of 2016, we needed some late recruits. So what did he do? Took a week's vacation.

What college coach does that during one of the two main recruiting periods?

(03-18-2018 11:17 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(03-18-2018 09:46 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(03-18-2018 07:09 AM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(03-18-2018 05:50 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(03-17-2018 11:22 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  I'd take Tubby. He lost all those players and still won 21. He still has it.

Tubby is a great teaching coach, and the team improved quite a bit from the beginning of the year. Problem is, we had to start over with a whole new team, mostly Jucos, b/c we were supposed to lose no one after year one with Tubby, but the entire team transferred out on him (except 2 players).

We struggled early to beat the worst teams on our weak OOC schedule, and then of course lost to you guys, and then lost by 25 at home to USF. The two worst losses in the same season, ever.

And in 2 years, Tubby got zero Memphis recruits, even though 16 were ranked in the top 150 or so, iirc.

Oh, and Tubby never did a non-contractual interview, never did one thing to promote the program. His agent said on the way out that it wasn't Tubby's responsibility to worry about attendance, even though it is stated in his contract.

And throughout his tenure, Tubby lectured the fan base that our expectations were too high, this was not the Memphis of 10 years ago, etc.

And of those 21 wins, Tubby said, "We would have liked to go to the postseason, but we didn't beat anyone of significance." Well, we beat Houston, maybe he forgot that one, but otherwise...

So if all that stuff is okay, he's available.

We’re ECU. We just need to win.

We could do worse..but..it looks like Tubby's energy has wained with his age. Im not sure we need more low energy in Minges. We had a dose of that for almost a decade.

Tubby definitely gives the impression of being low energy.

Reminds me of another thing. When Tubby arrived in April of 2016, we needed some late recruits. So what did he do? Took a week's vacation.

What college coach does that during one of the two main recruiting periods?

Weird. Sounds like he needed some young energetic assistants to carry most of the recruiting load instead of his boy.

(03-18-2018 11:20 AM)Wheatshock Wrote:  

(03-18-2018 11:17 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(03-18-2018 09:46 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(03-18-2018 07:09 AM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(03-18-2018 05:50 AM)TripleA Wrote:  Tubby is a great teaching coach, and the team improved quite a bit from the beginning of the year. Problem is, we had to start over with a whole new team, mostly Jucos, b/c we were supposed to lose no one after year one with Tubby, but the entire team transferred out on him (except 2 players).

We struggled early to beat the worst teams on our weak OOC schedule, and then of course lost to you guys, and then lost by 25 at home to USF. The two worst losses in the same season, ever.

And in 2 years, Tubby got zero Memphis recruits, even though 16 were ranked in the top 150 or so, iirc.

Oh, and Tubby never did a non-contractual interview, never did one thing to promote the program. His agent said on the way out that it wasn't Tubby's responsibility to worry about attendance, even though it is stated in his contract.

And throughout his tenure, Tubby lectured the fan base that our expectations were too high, this was not the Memphis of 10 years ago, etc.

And of those 21 wins, Tubby said, "We would have liked to go to the postseason, but we didn't beat anyone of significance." Well, we beat Houston, maybe he forgot that one, but otherwise...

So if all that stuff is okay, he's available.

We’re ECU. We just need to win.

We could do worse..but..it looks like Tubby's energy has wained with his age. Im not sure we need more low energy in Minges. We had a dose of that for almost a decade.

Tubby definitely gives the impression of being low energy.

Reminds me of another thing. When Tubby arrived in April of 2016, we needed some late recruits. So what did he do? Took a week's vacation.

What college coach does that during one of the two main recruiting periods?

Weird. Sounds like he needed some young energetic assistants to carry most of the recruiting load instead of his boy.

Saul was a total disaster, and Pooh was invisible. Joe Esposito was the only dude who seemed to try. He essentially brought in all our Jucos, after the first year's team all bailed.

Also, Tubby bumped Keelon out of an AC role that Bowen told him he could have (had the same spot with Pastner, and 2 Lawsons were on the roster), and put in Saul. That led to the fractured departure at the end of the first season, at least for the Lawsons.

My opinion is that Tubby is still coaching so that Saul has a job, because nobody would ever hire the guy on his own merits so dad has to keep him employed.

(03-18-2018 11:20 AM)Wheatshock Wrote:  

(03-18-2018 11:17 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(03-18-2018 09:46 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(03-18-2018 07:09 AM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(03-18-2018 05:50 AM)TripleA Wrote:  Tubby is a great teaching coach, and the team improved quite a bit from the beginning of the year. Problem is, we had to start over with a whole new team, mostly Jucos, b/c we were supposed to lose no one after year one with Tubby, but the entire team transferred out on him (except 2 players).

We struggled early to beat the worst teams on our weak OOC schedule, and then of course lost to you guys, and then lost by 25 at home to USF. The two worst losses in the same season, ever.

And in 2 years, Tubby got zero Memphis recruits, even though 16 were ranked in the top 150 or so, iirc.

Oh, and Tubby never did a non-contractual interview, never did one thing to promote the program. His agent said on the way out that it wasn't Tubby's responsibility to worry about attendance, even though it is stated in his contract.

And throughout his tenure, Tubby lectured the fan base that our expectations were too high, this was not the Memphis of 10 years ago, etc.

And of those 21 wins, Tubby said, "We would have liked to go to the postseason, but we didn't beat anyone of significance." Well, we beat Houston, maybe he forgot that one, but otherwise...

So if all that stuff is okay, he's available.

We’re ECU. We just need to win.

We could do worse..but..it looks like Tubby's energy has wained with his age. Im not sure we need more low energy in Minges. We had a dose of that for almost a decade.

Tubby definitely gives the impression of being low energy.

Reminds me of another thing. When Tubby arrived in April of 2016, we needed some late recruits. So what did he do? Took a week's vacation.

What college coach does that during one of the two main recruiting periods?

Weird. Sounds like he needed some young energetic assistants to carry most of the recruiting load instead of his boy.

Yes he just magically pulled 11 new players out of thin air.


All you need to know about Tubby's recruiting is in Texas Tech and every where else he has worked. He can't recruit is only if you are interested in how you look in magazines. Glossy covers are nice but NCAA invites and wins look way better.

Memphis fans won't understand this, but if recruiting ranks were the secret to winning a national title they would have had three or four under Pastner. Calipari/Petino would win the title every year.

Recruiting rankings are about selling subscriptions period. Local AAU guys (like say team Penny) are jumping for joy right now. Making money so fast they can't fill their pockets quick enough.

(03-18-2018 12:09 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  

(03-18-2018 11:20 AM)Wheatshock Wrote:  

(03-18-2018 11:17 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(03-18-2018 09:46 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(03-18-2018 07:09 AM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  We’re ECU. We just need to win.

We could do worse..but..it looks like Tubby's energy has wained with his age. Im not sure we need more low energy in Minges. We had a dose of that for almost a decade.

Tubby definitely gives the impression of being low energy.

Reminds me of another thing. When Tubby arrived in April of 2016, we needed some late recruits. So what did he do? Took a week's vacation.

What college coach does that during one of the two main recruiting periods?

Weird. Sounds like he needed some young energetic assistants to carry most of the recruiting load instead of his boy.

Yes he just magically pulled 11 new players out of thin air.


All you need to know about Tubby's recruiting is in Texas Tech and every where else he has worked. He can't recruit is only if you are interested in how you look in magazines. Glossy covers are nice but NCAA invites and wins look way better.

Memphis fans won't understand this, but if recruiting ranks were the secret to winning a national title they would have had three or four under Pastner. Calipari/Petino would win the title every year.

Recruiting rankings are about selling subscriptions period. Local AAU guys (like say team Penny) are jumping for joy right now. Making money so fast they can't fill their pockets quick enough.

When was Tulsa's last great run? Cause that formula isn't working for you.
Teams need talent. Period. Cal and petino make runs in the tourney consistently because of talent.
Pastner had a negative affect on talent and players didn't respect him.

(03-18-2018 12:09 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  

(03-18-2018 11:20 AM)Wheatshock Wrote:  

(03-18-2018 11:17 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(03-18-2018 09:46 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(03-18-2018 07:09 AM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  We’re ECU. We just need to win.

We could do worse..but..it looks like Tubby's energy has wained with his age. Im not sure we need more low energy in Minges. We had a dose of that for almost a decade.

Tubby definitely gives the impression of being low energy.

Reminds me of another thing. When Tubby arrived in April of 2016, we needed some late recruits. So what did he do? Took a week's vacation.

What college coach does that during one of the two main recruiting periods?

Weird. Sounds like he needed some young energetic assistants to carry most of the recruiting load instead of his boy.

Yes he just magically pulled 11 new players out of thin air.


All you need to know about Tubby's recruiting is in Texas Tech and every where else he has worked. He can't recruit is only if you are interested in how you look in magazines. Glossy covers are nice but NCAA invites and wins look way better.

Memphis fans won't understand this, but if recruiting ranks were the secret to winning a national title they would have had three or four under Pastner. Calipari/Petino would win the title every year.

Recruiting rankings are about selling subscriptions period. Local AAU guys (like say team Penny) are jumping for joy right now. Making money so fast they can't fill their pockets quick enough.

Recruiting rankings weren't the issue with Tubby. It was that we had 16 high-major players from Memphis (over the 3 classes he recruited) who went or plan to go elsewhere, and barely gave Tubby the time of day, b/c he screwed up the way he recruited them.

And you are way off base lecturing Memphis fans. If you think you know more about what is actually going on there than I do, or any number of other Memphis fans do, then you're just embarrassing yourself.

And all those great recruits you say Tubby pulled in, when everybody left after the first season, still suffered our two worst same season losses in history, and finished 5th in the AAC, with zero post season. That may be cool at Tulsa, not so cool at Memphis.

I repeat, I wanted to give Tubby another year, so you're pissing up the wrong rope. And you keep saying the same stuff over and over, and a lot of it is wrong, or missing critical details. Go manage your own team and stop obsessing over us.

(03-18-2018 12:19 PM)Tigergary Wrote:  

(03-18-2018 12:09 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  

(03-18-2018 11:20 AM)Wheatshock Wrote:  

(03-18-2018 11:17 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(03-18-2018 09:46 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  We could do worse..but..it looks like Tubby's energy has wained with his age. Im not sure we need more low energy in Minges. We had a dose of that for almost a decade.

Tubby definitely gives the impression of being low energy.

Reminds me of another thing. When Tubby arrived in April of 2016, we needed some late recruits. So what did he do? Took a week's vacation.

What college coach does that during one of the two main recruiting periods?

Weird. Sounds like he needed some young energetic assistants to carry most of the recruiting load instead of his boy.

Yes he just magically pulled 11 new players out of thin air.


All you need to know about Tubby's recruiting is in Texas Tech and every where else he has worked. He can't recruit is only if you are interested in how you look in magazines. Glossy covers are nice but NCAA invites and wins look way better.

Memphis fans won't understand this, but if recruiting ranks were the secret to winning a national title they would have had three or four under Pastner. Calipari/Petino would win the title every year.

Recruiting rankings are about selling subscriptions period. Local AAU guys (like say team Penny) are jumping for joy right now. Making money so fast they can't fill their pockets quick enough.

When was Tulsa's last great run? Cause that formula isn't working for you.
Teams need talent. Period. Cal and petino make runs in the tourney consistently because of talent.
Pastner had a negative affect on talent and players didn't respect him.

Read that again slowly and you'll see the answer you seek.

By the way how did all that recruiting work for Virginia? Who had a better group of recruits Wichita or Marshall?
How'd that recruiting by Pastner at Memphis and GT work?

How the hell did George Mason and VCU go on final four runs? Wichita St? How is Texas Tech making such a solid run after a decade plus of being trash? With a recruiting class that wasn't highly rated? Evans wouldn't have even got a good get from Memphis fans, not high enough in recruiting rankings. Yet he is the difference between a meh NCAA bubble team to a real threat.

The difference between Pastner and Calipari/Petino is their ability to evaluate talent. Texas football dominated the recruiting ranking with Mack Brown and Strong, but had **** teams. Why? Because they looked great on covers but weren't the best players on the field. If they were and it was just coaching, one of the last three coaches would have had a championship year.

(03-18-2018 02:23 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  

(03-18-2018 12:19 PM)Tigergary Wrote:  

(03-18-2018 12:09 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  

(03-18-2018 11:20 AM)Wheatshock Wrote:  

(03-18-2018 11:17 AM)TripleA Wrote:  Tubby definitely gives the impression of being low energy.

Reminds me of another thing. When Tubby arrived in April of 2016, we needed some late recruits. So what did he do? Took a week's vacation.

What college coach does that during one of the two main recruiting periods?

Weird. Sounds like he needed some young energetic assistants to carry most of the recruiting load instead of his boy.

Yes he just magically pulled 11 new players out of thin air.


All you need to know about Tubby's recruiting is in Texas Tech and every where else he has worked. He can't recruit is only if you are interested in how you look in magazines. Glossy covers are nice but NCAA invites and wins look way better.

Memphis fans won't understand this, but if recruiting ranks were the secret to winning a national title they would have had three or four under Pastner. Calipari/Petino would win the title every year.

Recruiting rankings are about selling subscriptions period. Local AAU guys (like say team Penny) are jumping for joy right now. Making money so fast they can't fill their pockets quick enough.

When was Tulsa's last great run? Cause that formula isn't working for you.
Teams need talent. Period. Cal and petino make runs in the tourney consistently because of talent.
Pastner had a negative affect on talent and players didn't respect him.

Read that again slowly and you'll see the answer you seek.

By the way how did all that recruiting work for Virginia? Who had a better group of recruits Wichita or Marshall?
How'd that recruiting by Pastner at Memphis and GT work?

How the hell did George Mason and VCU go on final four runs? Wichita St? How is Texas Tech making such a solid run after a decade plus of being trash? With a recruiting class that wasn't highly rated? Evans wouldn't have even got a good get from Memphis fans, not high enough in recruiting rankings. Yet he is the difference between a meh NCAA bubble team to a real threat.

The difference between Pastner and Calipari/Petino is their ability to evaluate talent. Texas football dominated the recruiting ranking with Mack Brown and Strong, but had **** teams. Why? Because they looked great on covers but weren't the best players on the field. If they were and it was just coaching, one of the last three coaches would have had a championship year.

Okay smarty pants. Go ask every coach in the nation if they'd rather have the top 5 recruiting class or the top 50. I never said inferior talent never makes a run. They sometimes do. But superior talent will keep you in the picture more often than not. If recruiting doesn't matter then Tulsa should be making a Texas Tech type of run any season now....

(03-18-2018 11:20 AM)Wheatshock Wrote:  

(03-18-2018 11:17 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(03-18-2018 09:46 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(03-18-2018 07:09 AM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(03-18-2018 05:50 AM)TripleA Wrote:  Tubby is a great teaching coach, and the team improved quite a bit from the beginning of the year. Problem is, we had to start over with a whole new team, mostly Jucos, b/c we were supposed to lose no one after year one with Tubby, but the entire team transferred out on him (except 2 players).

We struggled early to beat the worst teams on our weak OOC schedule, and then of course lost to you guys, and then lost by 25 at home to USF. The two worst losses in the same season, ever.

And in 2 years, Tubby got zero Memphis recruits, even though 16 were ranked in the top 150 or so, iirc.

Oh, and Tubby never did a non-contractual interview, never did one thing to promote the program. His agent said on the way out that it wasn't Tubby's responsibility to worry about attendance, even though it is stated in his contract.

And throughout his tenure, Tubby lectured the fan base that our expectations were too high, this was not the Memphis of 10 years ago, etc.

And of those 21 wins, Tubby said, "We would have liked to go to the postseason, but we didn't beat anyone of significance." Well, we beat Houston, maybe he forgot that one, but otherwise...

So if all that stuff is okay, he's available.

We’re ECU. We just need to win.

We could do worse..but..it looks like Tubby's energy has wained with his age. Im not sure we need more low energy in Minges. We had a dose of that for almost a decade.

Tubby definitely gives the impression of being low energy.

Reminds me of another thing. When Tubby arrived in April of 2016, we needed some late recruits. So what did he do? Took a week's vacation.

What college coach does that during one of the two main recruiting periods?

Weird. Sounds like he needed some young energetic assistants to carry most of the recruiting load instead of his boy.

This is the kind of thing that Tubby(Tuberville) would do at Cincinnati. he would not take our ob seriously.