I have to wonder why the sudden push from him this year.
He's always been kinda humble about being possibly the coach but never really stating it. Then all of a sudden just completely sure of himself to the point of doing whatever it takes to get the job. What does he know we don't now? Has he been assured of things like possible staff? Or people in his ear? Or other opportunities? Kinda makes you wonder.

Maybe he wants to save a program that is in dire need of saving.

It wasn’t just this year., it was said last season that he wanted to be coach. In fact, many people have said for a while that ‘one day’ he was going to be the men's head basketball coach at the University of Memphis. Just didn’t know when

from Finch, to Pastner, and now Smith...we just don't know how to let a coach go without tons and tons of drama.

I say---don't look a gift horse---yall know the rest

Maybe Penny is reallly the diabolical evil master that Tubby's lawyer says, turning Memphis recruits into mindless zombies bound for Kentucky, while pretending that his end game had nothing to do with coaching at Memphis.

It wasn't sudden. When we were in a pickle with Pastner, it was being discussed then too.

(03-10-2018 01:04 AM)snowtiger Wrote:  It wasn't sudden. When we were in a pickle with Pastner, it was being discussed then too.

Yep

(03-10-2018 01:01 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  from Finch, to Pastner, and now Smith...we just don't know how to let a coach go without tons and tons of drama.

We didn't know how to let X/JUDAS/BENEDICT/FREDO go without tons of drama either LOL

(03-10-2018 12:49 AM)Tigergary Wrote:  I have to wonder why the sudden push from him this year.
He's always been kinda humble about being possibly the coach but never really stating it. Then all of a sudden just completely sure of himself to the point of doing whatever it takes to get the job. What does he know we don't now? Has he been assured of things like possible staff? Or people in his ear? Or other opportunities? Kinda makes you wonder.

I think Penney just loves this program. He's a Tiger through and blue. This waiting to see what trash happens next is simply maddening and it needs to stop. Tubby gets on a 4-5 game win streak and then loses to USF by nearly 30. AND doesn't know why things went wrong. Has zero answers. Penny knows he's the right guy for this program right now. I believe it too. You cannot build a basketball program by JUCO recruiting. You can look good faster with JUCOs, but that is smoke and mirrors recruiting/coaching. You must either recruit young to build a continuity of players, OR you have to put together a team of 1 and dones consistently each season with some role players. Penny hears the fans and wants the change as much as the rest of us.

(03-10-2018 01:37 AM)Born2Steel Wrote:  I think Penney just loves this program. He's a Tiger through and blue. This waiting to see what trash happens next is simply maddening and it needs to stop. Tubby gets on a 4-5 game win streak and then loses to USF by nearly 30. AND doesn't know why things went wrong. Has zero answers. Penny knows he's the right guy for this program right now. I believe it too. You cannot build a basketball program by JUCO recruiting. You can look good faster with JUCOs, but that is smoke and mirrors recruiting/coaching. You must either recruit young to build a continuity of players, OR you have to put together a team of 1 and dones consistently each season with some role players. Penny hears the fans and wants the change as much as the rest of us.

Worked for Cal this year..... #snicker

(03-10-2018 08:08 AM)mapdude Wrote:  

(03-10-2018 01:37 AM)Born2Steel Wrote:  I think Penney just loves this program. He's a Tiger through and blue. This waiting to see what trash happens next is simply maddening and it needs to stop. Tubby gets on a 4-5 game win streak and then loses to USF by nearly 30. AND doesn't know why things went wrong. Has zero answers. Penny knows he's the right guy for this program right now. I believe it too. You cannot build a basketball program by JUCO recruiting. You can look good faster with JUCOs, but that is smoke and mirrors recruiting/coaching. You must either recruit young to build a continuity of players, OR you have to put together a team of 1 and dones consistently each season with some role players. Penny hears the fans and wants the change as much as the rest of us.

Worked for Cal this year..... #snicker

Works for him more often than not. I'd take that route over what we have now .

(03-10-2018 08:08 AM)mapdude Wrote:  

(03-10-2018 01:37 AM)Born2Steel Wrote:  I think Penney just loves this program. He's a Tiger through and blue. This waiting to see what trash happens next is simply maddening and it needs to stop. Tubby gets on a 4-5 game win streak and then loses to USF by nearly 30. AND doesn't know why things went wrong. Has zero answers. Penny knows he's the right guy for this program right now. I believe it too. You cannot build a basketball program by JUCO recruiting. You can look good faster with JUCOs, but that is smoke and mirrors recruiting/coaching. You must either recruit young to build a continuity of players, OR you have to put together a team of 1 and dones consistently each season with some role players. Penny hears the fans and wants the change as much as the rest of us.

Worked for Cal this year..... #snicker

Just so you know it worked a lot better than what we did

(03-10-2018 08:08 AM)mapdude Wrote:  

(03-10-2018 01:37 AM)Born2Steel Wrote:  I think Penney just loves this program. He's a Tiger through and blue. This waiting to see what trash happens next is simply maddening and it needs to stop. Tubby gets on a 4-5 game win streak and then loses to USF by nearly 30. AND doesn't know why things went wrong. Has zero answers. Penny knows he's the right guy for this program right now. I believe it too. You cannot build a basketball program by JUCO recruiting. You can look good faster with JUCOs, but that is smoke and mirrors recruiting/coaching. You must either recruit young to build a continuity of players, OR you have to put together a team of 1 and dones consistently each season with some role players. Penny hears the fans and wants the change as much as the rest of us.

Worked for Cal this year..... #snicker

Maybe not for Cal. But have you watched Duke? Kansas? USC? Arizona? OR even Cal and KY this season at all? How about Louisville even without the coach? These programs have fed on the one and done players. This is only 1 of the ways I mentioned to build a basketball program btw. I think it is the faster, easier way though. But it is unstable if you miss on a kid.
Bottom line is Memphis should be much better than this league. In competition for the title every season. On par with WSU and Cincy. NOT LOSING TO USF and TULSA!

(03-10-2018 10:27 AM)Dylan Wrote:  

(03-10-2018 08:08 AM)mapdude Wrote:  

(03-10-2018 01:37 AM)Born2Steel Wrote:  I think Penney just loves this program. He's a Tiger through and blue. This waiting to see what trash happens next is simply maddening and it needs to stop. Tubby gets on a 4-5 game win streak and then loses to USF by nearly 30. AND doesn't know why things went wrong. Has zero answers. Penny knows he's the right guy for this program right now. I believe it too. You cannot build a basketball program by JUCO recruiting. You can look good faster with JUCOs, but that is smoke and mirrors recruiting/coaching. You must either recruit young to build a continuity of players, OR you have to put together a team of 1 and dones consistently each season with some role players. Penny hears the fans and wants the change as much as the rest of us.

Worked for Cal this year..... #snicker

Just so you know it worked a lot better than what we did

Exactly. If Cal had stayed and recruited those KY teams here, NOBODY would be screaming for Penny today.

(03-10-2018 10:43 AM)Born2Steel Wrote:  

(03-10-2018 08:08 AM)mapdude Wrote:  

(03-10-2018 01:37 AM)Born2Steel Wrote:  I think Penney just loves this program. He's a Tiger through and blue. This waiting to see what trash happens next is simply maddening and it needs to stop. Tubby gets on a 4-5 game win streak and then loses to USF by nearly 30. AND doesn't know why things went wrong. Has zero answers. Penny knows he's the right guy for this program right now. I believe it too. You cannot build a basketball program by JUCO recruiting. You can look good faster with JUCOs, but that is smoke and mirrors recruiting/coaching. You must either recruit young to build a continuity of players, OR you have to put together a team of 1 and dones consistently each season with some role players. Penny hears the fans and wants the change as much as the rest of us.

Worked for Cal this year..... #snicker

Maybe not for Cal. But have you watched Duke? Kansas? USC? Arizona? OR even Cal and KY this season at all? How about Louisville even without the coach? These programs have fed on the one and done players. This is only 1 of the ways I mentioned to build a basketball program btw. I think it is the faster, easier way though. But it is unstable if you miss on a kid.
Bottom line is Memphis should be much better than this league. In competition for the title every season. On par with WSU and Cincy. NOT LOSING TO USF and TULSA!

You do realize that historically we have not won a conference title when Louisville and/or Cincy (and to some extent UConn) have been in our league?

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He wanted it two years ago. Wasn't ready. So he spent the last two years learning, getting ready, preparing for it this time around. I don't think he thought it would be this soon. He was taking some job this offseason. Ours just happens to be available. Then there's the House of Cards stuff he may or may not have done.

(03-10-2018 11:01 AM)bcspiker Wrote:  

(03-10-2018 10:43 AM)Born2Steel Wrote:  

(03-10-2018 08:08 AM)mapdude Wrote:  

(03-10-2018 01:37 AM)Born2Steel Wrote:  I think Penney just loves this program. He's a Tiger through and blue. This waiting to see what trash happens next is simply maddening and it needs to stop. Tubby gets on a 4-5 game win streak and then loses to USF by nearly 30. AND doesn't know why things went wrong. Has zero answers. Penny knows he's the right guy for this program right now. I believe it too. You cannot build a basketball program by JUCO recruiting. You can look good faster with JUCOs, but that is smoke and mirrors recruiting/coaching. You must either recruit young to build a continuity of players, OR you have to put together a team of 1 and dones consistently each season with some role players. Penny hears the fans and wants the change as much as the rest of us.

Worked for Cal this year..... #snicker

Maybe not for Cal. But have you watched Duke? Kansas? USC? Arizona? OR even Cal and KY this season at all? How about Louisville even without the coach? These programs have fed on the one and done players. This is only 1 of the ways I mentioned to build a basketball program btw. I think it is the faster, easier way though. But it is unstable if you miss on a kid.
Bottom line is Memphis should be much better than this league. In competition for the title every season. On par with WSU and Cincy. NOT LOSING TO USF and TULSA!

You do realize that historically we have not won a conference title when Louisville and/or Cincy (and to some extent UConn) have been in our league?

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You do realize that historically we used to compete with those schools at a high level. You don't have to win it every year, but you do have to be relevant in the conversation.

(03-10-2018 12:49 AM)Tigergary Wrote:  I have to wonder why the sudden push from him this year.
He's always been kinda humble about being possibly the coach but never really stating it. Then all of a sudden just completely sure of himself to the point of doing whatever it takes to get the job. What does he know we don't now? Has he been assured of things like possible staff? Or people in his ear? Or other opportunities? Kinda makes you wonder.

A humble man would have been an assistant

He wanted it as early as 2014