Quote:LOS ANGELES - The war of words between the Trump administration and officials in California over immigration intensified around federal sweeps in the north of the state that ended with more than 150 arrests.

Over the weekend, Oakland Mayor Libby Schaaf alerted residents that she had heard from multiple sources that Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents would be conducting operations there imminently; she urged those in the country illegally to take precautions.

Oakland, like many California cities, has declared itself a sanctuary for those here illegally, and officials there have vowed to fight President Donald Trump's immigration crackdown.

Schaaf has been praised and condemned for giving residents advance notice.

ICE's acting director, Thomas D. Homan, blasted Schaaf.

"The Oakland mayor's decision to publicize her suspicions about ICE operations further increased that risk for my officers and alerted criminal aliens - making clear that this reckless decision was based on her political agenda with the very federal laws that ICE is sworn to uphold," Homan said in a statement on Tuesday.
Schaaf stood by her decision.

"My statement on Saturday was meant to give all residents time to learn their rights and know their legal options," Schaaf said Tuesday in a statement. "It was my intention that one mother, or one father, would use the information to help keep their family together.

"I do not regret sharing this information. It is Oakland's legal right to be a sanctuary city and we have not broken any laws. We believe our community is safer when families stay together," she said in a statement.
In ICE's three-day sweep across Northern California, agents arrested more than 150 people suspected of violating immigration laws, the agency said in the same statement that criticized Schaaf.

About half of those arrested have criminal convictions, the agency said.
Homan said 864 immigrants with criminal histories are still at large despite the raids that led to arrests in cities including Stockton, Sacramento, San Francisco and Bay Point. He blamed Schaaf in part.

"I have to believe that some of them were able to elude us thanks to the mayor's irresponsible decision," Homan said.
Among those at large are Oakland residents with multiple prior removals, said James Schwab, a spokesman for ICE in San Francisco, a field office that spans 49 counties from Bakersfield to the Oregon border. They include someone convicted of carrying a loaded firearm and selling drugs, and another suspected of transporting cocaine and having sex with a minor, he said.

Immigration detainers lodged against them have been "repeatedly ignored," Schwab said. "Instead they have been released back into the community to potentially reoffend."

In fiscal year 2017, ICE arrested 20,201 people across the state, Schwab said. Of those, he said, 81 percent had criminal convictions.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/ice-at...spartandhp

(02-28-2018 06:07 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

Quote:LOS ANGELES - The war of words between the Trump administration and officials in California over immigration intensified around federal sweeps in the north of the state that ended with more than 150 arrests.

Over the weekend, Oakland Mayor Libby Schaaf alerted residents that she had heard from multiple sources that Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents would be conducting operations there imminently; she urged those in the country illegally to take precautions.

Oakland, like many California cities, has declared itself a sanctuary for those here illegally, and officials there have vowed to fight President Donald Trump's immigration crackdown.

Schaaf has been praised and condemned for giving residents advance notice.

ICE's acting director, Thomas D. Homan, blasted Schaaf.

"The Oakland mayor's decision to publicize her suspicions about ICE operations further increased that risk for my officers and alerted criminal aliens - making clear that this reckless decision was based on her political agenda with the very federal laws that ICE is sworn to uphold," Homan said in a statement on Tuesday.
Schaaf stood by her decision.

"My statement on Saturday was meant to give all residents time to learn their rights and know their legal options," Schaaf said Tuesday in a statement. "It was my intention that one mother, or one father, would use the information to help keep their family together.

"I do not regret sharing this information. It is Oakland's legal right to be a sanctuary city and we have not broken any laws. We believe our community is safer when families stay together," she said in a statement.
In ICE's three-day sweep across Northern California, agents arrested more than 150 people suspected of violating immigration laws, the agency said in the same statement that criticized Schaaf.

About half of those arrested have criminal convictions, the agency said.
Homan said 864 immigrants with criminal histories are still at large despite the raids that led to arrests in cities including Stockton, Sacramento, San Francisco and Bay Point. He blamed Schaaf in part.

"I have to believe that some of them were able to elude us thanks to the mayor's irresponsible decision," Homan said.
Among those at large are Oakland residents with multiple prior removals, said James Schwab, a spokesman for ICE in San Francisco, a field office that spans 49 counties from Bakersfield to the Oregon border. They include someone convicted of carrying a loaded firearm and selling drugs, and another suspected of transporting cocaine and having sex with a minor, he said.

Immigration detainers lodged against them have been "repeatedly ignored," Schwab said. "Instead they have been released back into the community to potentially reoffend."

In fiscal year 2017, ICE arrested 20,201 people across the state, Schwab said. Of those, he said, 81 percent had criminal convictions.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/ice-at...spartandhp

Lock her up!

Sounds like obstruction of justice to me.

If only they would prosecute her. If only.

Just deport all of Oakland. Nobody in California will cry about that s***hole.

(02-28-2018 07:15 PM)GrayBeard Wrote:  Just deport all of Oakland. Nobody in California will cry about that s***hole.

LOL. Do we really want to compare Greenville NC's economic data to that of Oakland again?

(02-28-2018 10:26 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(02-28-2018 07:15 PM)GrayBeard Wrote:  Just deport all of Oakland. Nobody in California will cry about that s***hole.

LOL. Do we really want to compare Greenville NC's economic data to that of Oakland again?

LOL keep protecting the illegals and keep rooting for violations of federal law.

DOJ looking into possible obstruction charge against Oakland mayor who warned of ICE raid

The Department of Justice is looking into whether Oakland Mayor Libby Schaaf obstructed justice by warning Northern California residents of an impending raid by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE).

The agency’s acting director, Thomas Homan, told “Fox & Friends” Wednesday morning that the DOJ is “reviewing” whether Schaaf broke any laws by telling her constituents ICE would be raiding the area in order to arrest people violating federal immigration laws.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/02/...-raid.html

(02-28-2018 11:03 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  DOJ looking into possible obstruction charge against Oakland mayor who warned of ICE raid

The Department of Justice is looking into whether Oakland Mayor Libby Schaaf obstructed justice by warning Northern California residents of an impending raid by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE).

The agency’s acting director, Thomas Homan, told “Fox & Friends” Wednesday morning that the DOJ is “reviewing” whether Schaaf broke any laws by telling her constituents ICE would be raiding the area in order to arrest people violating federal immigration laws.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/02/...-raid.html

LOL, Homan is the one that really should be lawyering up.

(02-28-2018 10:26 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(02-28-2018 07:15 PM)GrayBeard Wrote:  Just deport all of Oakland. Nobody in California will cry about that s***hole.

LOL. Do we really want to compare Greenville NC's economic data to that of Oakland again?

Did I say anything about Greenville?

(03-01-2018 09:18 AM)GrayBeard Wrote:  

(02-28-2018 10:26 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(02-28-2018 07:15 PM)GrayBeard Wrote:  Just deport all of Oakland. Nobody in California will cry about that s***hole.

LOL. Do we really want to compare Greenville NC's economic data to that of Oakland again?

Did I say anything about Greenville?

Tom brought that up because N Cali is a progressive paradise with the tech giants and hipsters all over the place. Where NC or Greenville is more likely red with regular families and married couples with kids. Since Tom lost the argument he thought "yeah but my side has more money than yours" would be neat. It is something a 10 year old would after losing "my Dad has more money than your Dad".

(03-01-2018 09:24 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(03-01-2018 09:18 AM)GrayBeard Wrote:  

(02-28-2018 10:26 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(02-28-2018 07:15 PM)GrayBeard Wrote:  Just deport all of Oakland. Nobody in California will cry about that s***hole.

LOL. Do we really want to compare Greenville NC's economic data to that of Oakland again?

Did I say anything about Greenville?

Tom brought that up because N Cali is a progressive paradise with the tech giants and hipsters all over the place. Where NC or Greenville is more likely red with regular families and married couples with kids. Since Tom lost the argument he thought "yeah but my side has more money than yours" would be neat. It is something a 10 year old would after losing "my Dad has more money than your Dad".

So how do you define sh*thole? It can't be weather, as Oakland has a pretty good climate. It can't be economics, because Oakland is really doing well economically.

Basically, it appears as if the definition of sh*thole to some people is "having a large number of minorities that aren't politically marginalized' and 'not agreeing with Trump'. Which is pretty much consistent with Trump's use of the word.

You might think that Oakland is a sh*thole, but the markets have spoken.

(03-01-2018 09:30 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(03-01-2018 09:24 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(03-01-2018 09:18 AM)GrayBeard Wrote:  

(02-28-2018 10:26 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(02-28-2018 07:15 PM)GrayBeard Wrote:  Just deport all of Oakland. Nobody in California will cry about that s***hole.

LOL. Do we really want to compare Greenville NC's economic data to that of Oakland again?

Did I say anything about Greenville?

Tom brought that up because N Cali is a progressive paradise with the tech giants and hipsters all over the place. Where NC or Greenville is more likely red with regular families and married couples with kids. Since Tom lost the argument he thought "yeah but my side has more money than yours" would be neat. It is something a 10 year old would after losing "my Dad has more money than your Dad".

So how do you define sh*thole? It can't be weather, as Oakland has a pretty good climate. It can't be economics, because Oakland is really doing well economically.

Basically, it appears as if the definition of sh*thole to some people is "having a large number of minorities that aren't politically marginalized' and 'not agreeing with Trump'. Which is pretty much consistent with Trump's use of the word.

You might think that Oakland is a sh*thole, but the markets have spoken.

Or it could be the fact that it was ranked #10 in the most dangerous cities in the U.S.... maybe, just maybe, that could be the reason tom.

https://247wallst.com/special-report/201...erica-2/5/

(03-01-2018 09:39 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(03-01-2018 09:30 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(03-01-2018 09:24 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(03-01-2018 09:18 AM)GrayBeard Wrote:  

(02-28-2018 10:26 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  LOL. Do we really want to compare Greenville NC's economic data to that of Oakland again?

Did I say anything about Greenville?

Tom brought that up because N Cali is a progressive paradise with the tech giants and hipsters all over the place. Where NC or Greenville is more likely red with regular families and married couples with kids. Since Tom lost the argument he thought "yeah but my side has more money than yours" would be neat. It is something a 10 year old would after losing "my Dad has more money than your Dad".

So how do you define sh*thole? It can't be weather, as Oakland has a pretty good climate. It can't be economics, because Oakland is really doing well economically.

Basically, it appears as if the definition of sh*thole to some people is "having a large number of minorities that aren't politically marginalized' and 'not agreeing with Trump'. Which is pretty much consistent with Trump's use of the word.

You might think that Oakland is a sh*thole, but the markets have spoken.

Or it could be the fact that it was ranked #10 in the most dangerous cities in the U.S.... maybe, just maybe, that could be the reason tom.

https://247wallst.com/special-report/201...erica-2/5/

Sure, it has nothing to do with the fact that it doesn't agree with Trump on an issue related to targeting minorities. Nothing at all.

(03-01-2018 09:43 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(03-01-2018 09:39 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(03-01-2018 09:30 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(03-01-2018 09:24 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(03-01-2018 09:18 AM)GrayBeard Wrote:  Did I say anything about Greenville?

Tom brought that up because N Cali is a progressive paradise with the tech giants and hipsters all over the place. Where NC or Greenville is more likely red with regular families and married couples with kids. Since Tom lost the argument he thought "yeah but my side has more money than yours" would be neat. It is something a 10 year old would after losing "my Dad has more money than your Dad".

So how do you define sh*thole? It can't be weather, as Oakland has a pretty good climate. It can't be economics, because Oakland is really doing well economically.

Basically, it appears as if the definition of sh*thole to some people is "having a large number of minorities that aren't politically marginalized' and 'not agreeing with Trump'. Which is pretty much consistent with Trump's use of the word.

You might think that Oakland is a sh*thole, but the markets have spoken.

Or it could be the fact that it was ranked #10 in the most dangerous cities in the U.S.... maybe, just maybe, that could be the reason tom.

https://247wallst.com/special-report/201...erica-2/5/

Sure, it has nothing to do with the fact that it doesn't agree with Trump on an issue related to targeting minorities. Nothing at all.

actually, there are a lot of places that would agree with Trump on an issue that GB and I would consider shitholes... but of course, everything is about minorities with you.

(03-01-2018 09:46 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(03-01-2018 09:43 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(03-01-2018 09:39 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(03-01-2018 09:30 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(03-01-2018 09:24 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  Tom brought that up because N Cali is a progressive paradise with the tech giants and hipsters all over the place. Where NC or Greenville is more likely red with regular families and married couples with kids. Since Tom lost the argument he thought "yeah but my side has more money than yours" would be neat. It is something a 10 year old would after losing "my Dad has more money than your Dad".

So how do you define sh*thole? It can't be weather, as Oakland has a pretty good climate. It can't be economics, because Oakland is really doing well economically.

Basically, it appears as if the definition of sh*thole to some people is "having a large number of minorities that aren't politically marginalized' and 'not agreeing with Trump'. Which is pretty much consistent with Trump's use of the word.

You might think that Oakland is a sh*thole, but the markets have spoken.

Or it could be the fact that it was ranked #10 in the most dangerous cities in the U.S.... maybe, just maybe, that could be the reason tom.

https://247wallst.com/special-report/201...erica-2/5/

Sure, it has nothing to do with the fact that it doesn't agree with Trump on an issue related to targeting minorities. Nothing at all.

actually, there are a lot of places that would agree with Trump on an issue that GB and I would consider shitholes... but of course, everything is about minorities with you.

Actually it appears to be your side that is doing the targeting of minorities.

(03-01-2018 09:43 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(03-01-2018 09:39 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(03-01-2018 09:30 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(03-01-2018 09:24 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(03-01-2018 09:18 AM)GrayBeard Wrote:  Did I say anything about Greenville?

Tom brought that up because N Cali is a progressive paradise with the tech giants and hipsters all over the place. Where NC or Greenville is more likely red with regular families and married couples with kids. Since Tom lost the argument he thought "yeah but my side has more money than yours" would be neat. It is something a 10 year old would after losing "my Dad has more money than your Dad".

So how do you define sh*thole? It can't be weather, as Oakland has a pretty good climate. It can't be economics, because Oakland is really doing well economically.

Basically, it appears as if the definition of sh*thole to some people is "having a large number of minorities that aren't politically marginalized' and 'not agreeing with Trump'. Which is pretty much consistent with Trump's use of the word.

You might think that Oakland is a sh*thole, but the markets have spoken.

Or it could be the fact that it was ranked #10 in the most dangerous cities in the U.S.... maybe, just maybe, that could be the reason tom.

https://247wallst.com/special-report/201...erica-2/5/

Sure, it has nothing to do with the fact that it doesn't agree with Trump on an issue related to targeting minorities. Nothing at all.

Illegal criminal aliens Tom. Stop withe lies. You have already lost.

(03-01-2018 09:48 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(03-01-2018 09:43 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(03-01-2018 09:39 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(03-01-2018 09:30 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(03-01-2018 09:24 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  Tom brought that up because N Cali is a progressive paradise with the tech giants and hipsters all over the place. Where NC or Greenville is more likely red with regular families and married couples with kids. Since Tom lost the argument he thought "yeah but my side has more money than yours" would be neat. It is something a 10 year old would after losing "my Dad has more money than your Dad".

So how do you define sh*thole? It can't be weather, as Oakland has a pretty good climate. It can't be economics, because Oakland is really doing well economically.

Basically, it appears as if the definition of sh*thole to some people is "having a large number of minorities that aren't politically marginalized' and 'not agreeing with Trump'. Which is pretty much consistent with Trump's use of the word.

You might think that Oakland is a sh*thole, but the markets have spoken.

Or it could be the fact that it was ranked #10 in the most dangerous cities in the U.S.... maybe, just maybe, that could be the reason tom.

https://247wallst.com/special-report/201...erica-2/5/

Sure, it has nothing to do with the fact that it doesn't agree with Trump on an issue related to targeting minorities. Nothing at all.

Illegal criminal aliens Tom. Stop withe lies. You have already lost.

I don't think people are illegal. You're free to characterize Hispanic Americans however you wish.

Its not lying to refuse to use your inflammatory and defamatory language to describe people.

(03-01-2018 09:48 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(03-01-2018 09:46 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(03-01-2018 09:43 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(03-01-2018 09:39 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(03-01-2018 09:30 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  So how do you define sh*thole? It can't be weather, as Oakland has a pretty good climate. It can't be economics, because Oakland is really doing well economically.

Basically, it appears as if the definition of sh*thole to some people is "having a large number of minorities that aren't politically marginalized' and 'not agreeing with Trump'. Which is pretty much consistent with Trump's use of the word.

You might think that Oakland is a sh*thole, but the markets have spoken.

Or it could be the fact that it was ranked #10 in the most dangerous cities in the U.S.... maybe, just maybe, that could be the reason tom.

https://247wallst.com/special-report/201...erica-2/5/

Sure, it has nothing to do with the fact that it doesn't agree with Trump on an issue related to targeting minorities. Nothing at all.

actually, there are a lot of places that would agree with Trump on an issue that GB and I would consider shitholes... but of course, everything is about minorities with you.

Actually it appears to be your side that is doing the targeting of minorities.

really? And here I thought they were going after illegal immigrants... damn, I am shocked.

(03-01-2018 09:50 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(03-01-2018 09:48 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(03-01-2018 09:43 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(03-01-2018 09:39 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(03-01-2018 09:30 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  So how do you define sh*thole? It can't be weather, as Oakland has a pretty good climate. It can't be economics, because Oakland is really doing well economically.

Basically, it appears as if the definition of sh*thole to some people is "having a large number of minorities that aren't politically marginalized' and 'not agreeing with Trump'. Which is pretty much consistent with Trump's use of the word.

You might think that Oakland is a sh*thole, but the markets have spoken.

Or it could be the fact that it was ranked #10 in the most dangerous cities in the U.S.... maybe, just maybe, that could be the reason tom.

https://247wallst.com/special-report/201...erica-2/5/

Sure, it has nothing to do with the fact that it doesn't agree with Trump on an issue related to targeting minorities. Nothing at all.

Illegal criminal aliens Tom. Stop withe lies. You have already lost.

I don't think people are illegal. You're free to characterize Hispanic Americans however you wish.

Its not lying to refuse to use your inflammatory and defamatory language to describe people.

Who said anything about Hispanic Americans? We are talking about illegal aliens.

Why are you defending people like this:

https://www.ice.gov/news/releases/ice-st...california

Quote:Among those arrested was ICE fugitive Armando Nuñez-Salgado, 38, a citizen of Mexico and documented Sureño gang member, who has been previously removed by ICE on four prior occasions. Over the past 18 years, he has accumulated criminal convictions in California that have resulted in prison sentences totaling more than 15 years. His criminal convictions include assault with a deadly weapon (statutorily enhanced because of his gang member status), burglary, hit-and-run causing injury and evading a peace officer.

Other arrests include:

In Sacramento, a citizen of Mexico, who has criminal convictions for possession of a dangerous weapon, inflicting corporal injury on a spouse, DUI, convicted felon in possession of a firearm, burglary, threatening with intent to terrorize, battery on a police officer and resisting arrest. The individual is also a documented Sureños gang member
In Sacramento, a citizen of Guatemala, who has a criminal conviction for false imprisonment
In Bay Point, a citizen of Mexico, previously removed by ICE eight times and who has a criminal conviction for assault with a deadly weapon
In Stockton, a citizen of Mexico, who has a previous criminal conviction for lewd and lascivious acts with a child under 14 years old
In San Francisco, a citizen of Mexico, who has previous criminal convictions for battery and DUI

Quote:Of the targets who remain at large, those believed to be currently living in Oakland include:

a Honduran citizen who was previously arrested in San Francisco County multiple times for cocaine possession and transport, probation violations and sex with a minor under 16, and;
a citizen of Mexico who was previously arrested and convicted for carrying a loaded firearm, transportation and sale of narcotics and DUI.

Lazytom and Mayor Schaaf want to protect child molesters and violent criminals because it helps their political agenda.

(03-01-2018 09:50 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(03-01-2018 09:48 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(03-01-2018 09:43 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(03-01-2018 09:39 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(03-01-2018 09:30 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  So how do you define sh*thole? It can't be weather, as Oakland has a pretty good climate. It can't be economics, because Oakland is really doing well economically.

Basically, it appears as if the definition of sh*thole to some people is "having a large number of minorities that aren't politically marginalized' and 'not agreeing with Trump'. Which is pretty much consistent with Trump's use of the word.

You might think that Oakland is a sh*thole, but the markets have spoken.

Or it could be the fact that it was ranked #10 in the most dangerous cities in the U.S.... maybe, just maybe, that could be the reason tom.

https://247wallst.com/special-report/201...erica-2/5/

Sure, it has nothing to do with the fact that it doesn't agree with Trump on an issue related to targeting minorities. Nothing at all.

Illegal criminal aliens Tom. Stop withe lies. You have already lost.

I don't think people are illegal. You're free to characterize Hispanic Americans however you wish.

Its not lying to refuse to use your inflammatory and defamatory language to describe people.

ILLEGAL ALIENS. Oh and Hispanics are not a minority in Cali, and even if they were is doesn't matter. Your idiotic identity politics LOL.