Quote:Another week, another controversy roiling Newsweek.
Gersh Kuntzman — a veteran editor who had grilled the magazine’s owners at a town hall meeting about the Manhattan district attorney’s raid of Newsweek’s offices last month, reportedly over alleged ad fraud, IRS tax liens and ties to a California-based church — was fired Friday.
On Tuesday, national editor John Seeley was also let go, sources said. One insider said the bloodbath is not over in the wake of a stunning expose by Newsweek reporters and editors last week that detailed how Olivet University, a Bible college affiliated with Newsweek’s corporate parent, offered free ads to Dutchess County officials as it sought tax breaks and permits for a new university there.
“They’re thinning the herd,” said a source.
Since the DA’s raid Jan. 18, at least five people have been fired and another 12 resigned. In addition, five women quit when chief information officer Dayan Candappa was reinstated after being suspended when allegations about sexual harassment at a previous job surfaced.
Kuntzman as you may remember is famous for claiming that firing an AR 15 at a shooting range gave him PTSD.
RE: Well I doubt they have to worry about him shooting up the place
(02-28-2018 04:49 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote: That's a little young in my view to shoot a firearm and that caliber is a bit much for a seven year old, but not my kid.
The younger the better IMO. Teach them early to respect firearms and to understand the consequences of making bad choices about using them.
RE: Well I doubt they have to worry about him shooting up the place
(03-01-2018 08:38 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:
(02-28-2018 04:49 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote: That's a little young in my view to shoot a firearm and that caliber is a bit much for a seven year old, but not my kid.
The younger the better IMO. Teach them early to respect firearms and to understand the consequences of making bad choices about using them.
^^ This...to a point. It depends on the maturity of the child. The girl in the video is displaying good safety and is following commands appropriately...so, I wouldn't have a problem with that. Personally, I wish I had more of an opportunity to shoot when I was younger. It would have dispelled a lot of "mystique" surrounding guns.
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(03-01-2018 08:42 AM)pharaoh0 Wrote:
(03-01-2018 08:38 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:
(02-28-2018 04:49 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote: That's a little young in my view to shoot a firearm and that caliber is a bit much for a seven year old, but not my kid.
The younger the better IMO. Teach them early to respect firearms and to understand the consequences of making bad choices about using them.
^^ This...to a point. It depends on the maturity of the child. The girl in the video is displaying good safety and is following commands appropriately...so, I wouldn't have a problem with that. Personally, I wish I had more of an opportunity to shoot when I was younger. It would have dispelled a lot of "mystique" surrounding guns.
I'd be comfortable with my 9-year old learning how to shoot. Myself at that age, not so much aside from a bb gun or paintball gun. As you said, all about maturity.
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My oldest learned to shoot at 9 years with a single shot .22 and as a parent, I felt that was sufficient as we are not a hunting family and we only have limited opportunities to shoot long guns.
We will probably move him up to a .20 ga or a .410 this summer. By moving out of the city we have more opportunities to shoot now, and I am thankful for that.
RE: Well I doubt they have to worry about him shooting up the place
that's too young to be teaching that youngster how to shoot IMO. I personally would wait until 15 or so, But I also I don't have kids, so, I guess it depends on the child itself and if they are mature enough to learn how to handle firearms safely, and listen to your instructions without fooling around.
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RE: Well I doubt they have to worry about him shooting up the place
(03-01-2018 09:04 AM)Huskypride Wrote: that's too young to be teaching that youngster how to shoot IMO. I personally would wait until 15 or so, But I also I don't have kids, so, I guess it depends on the child itself and if they are mature enough to learn how to handle firearms safely, and listen to your instructions without fooling around.
Depends on a lot of things... If guns are in the house the kid should be exposed so that they are not "mysterious" objects with which to play.
RE: Well I doubt they have to worry about him shooting up the place
(03-01-2018 09:02 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote: My oldest learned to shoot at 9 years with a single shot .22 and as a parent, I felt that was sufficient as we are not a hunting family and we only have limited opportunities to shoot long guns.
We will probably move him up to a .20 ga or a .410 this summer. By moving out of the city we have more opportunities to shoot now, and I am thankful for that.
410 is one of my favorites. It’s a relic but it’s a gem.
I picked up a cherry 1950’s H&R single shot on an auction site for $110. I wouldn’t part with it for another zero on that price.
Each kid is different in terms of age to start off. My oldest was not that into it at first but my younger boy was ready to roll at 6 with .22s and the .243.
I started shooting the late 1960’s Remington 582 I now have in my safe at the age of 5. Dad passed it on to me...looks like a museum piece but it’s probably not worth $125....priceless to me, though. Some of my favorite memories with the entire family was spent in a quarry here in Cincinnati shooting old empty antifreeze jugs with it.
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RE: Well I doubt they have to worry about him shooting up the place
(03-01-2018 09:14 AM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:
(03-01-2018 09:04 AM)Huskypride Wrote: that's too young to be teaching that youngster how to shoot IMO. I personally would wait until 15 or so, But I also I don't have kids, so, I guess it depends on the child itself and if they are mature enough to learn how to handle firearms safely, and listen to your instructions without fooling around.
Depends on a lot of things... If guns are in the house the kid should be exposed so that they are not "mysterious" objects with which to play.
Can't argue with that, but I would still wait a little bit until at least teen years personally.
RE: Well I doubt they have to worry about him shooting up the place
(03-01-2018 09:02 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote: My oldest learned to shoot at 9 years with a single shot .22 and as a parent, I felt that was sufficient as we are not a hunting family and we only have limited opportunities to shoot long guns.
We will probably move him up to a .20 ga or a .410 this summer. By moving out of the city we have more opportunities to shoot now, and I am thankful for that.
The first gun I shot was a .22 at age 12. Though, I knew a girl who was a "ringer" and shot clays using a 12 gauge at the same age. I only say "ringer" because she hitting two and three at a time and I couldn't hit one with a 20 gauge.
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(03-01-2018 09:30 AM)Huskypride Wrote:
(03-01-2018 09:14 AM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:
(03-01-2018 09:04 AM)Huskypride Wrote: that's too young to be teaching that youngster how to shoot IMO. I personally would wait until 15 or so, But I also I don't have kids, so, I guess it depends on the child itself and if they are mature enough to learn how to handle firearms safely, and listen to your instructions without fooling around.
Depends on a lot of things... If guns are in the house the kid should be exposed so that they are not "mysterious" objects with which to play.
Can't argue with that, but I would still wait a little bit until at least teen years personally.
My dad bought me my first 20ga single shot at 8 years old and taught me how to shoot it and the gun safety requirements. The single shot came first and he explained that I needed to learn to make the 1st shot count and using a single shot would reinforce that. He then started taking me hunting with it for squirrels.
He bought me my first 12ga pump shotgun at 12. He allowed me to hunt squirrels by myself at 16. I hunted with that until I finished college.
He was a marine in Korea and we grew up rural and hunted, so the introduction to guns started early.
RE: Well I doubt they have to worry about him shooting up the place
Started teaching my kids at a young age about gun safety with toy guns. As soon as they were physically able to operate one they got BB guns and progressed from there. Both were shooting the youth model .243 rifle well before the age of 10. When my oldest was 12 and my youngest 8 we went on a large dove hunt down in Walterboro with one of my duck hunting buddies. One of the guys hunting with us that day was a retire Marine marksmanship instructor. He made it a point after the hunt to go up to my sons and commend them on their handling of firearms, stating that they could give lessons to the recruits at Parris Island.
As a result of being taught from a young age that firearms are tools my sons never had the aurora of the forbidden fruit that many kinds have because their parents demonize guns. Since they grew up seeing and using them guns aren't a big deal and are just like circular saws in that they are tools that as long as you use and maintain them properly they can't hurt you and will hurt you if you don't they are responsible gun users.
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(03-01-2018 10:09 AM)Crebman Wrote:
(03-01-2018 09:30 AM)Huskypride Wrote:
(03-01-2018 09:14 AM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:
(03-01-2018 09:04 AM)Huskypride Wrote: that's too young to be teaching that youngster how to shoot IMO. I personally would wait until 15 or so, But I also I don't have kids, so, I guess it depends on the child itself and if they are mature enough to learn how to handle firearms safely, and listen to your instructions without fooling around.
Depends on a lot of things... If guns are in the house the kid should be exposed so that they are not "mysterious" objects with which to play.
Can't argue with that, but I would still wait a little bit until at least teen years personally.
My dad bought me my first 20ga single shot at 8 years old and taught me how to shoot it and the gun safety requirements. The single shot came first and he explained that I needed to learn to make the 1st shot count and using a single shot would reinforce that. He then started taking me hunting with it for squirrels.
He bought me my first 12ga pump shotgun at 12. He allowed me to hunt squirrels by myself at 16. I hunted with that until I finished college.
He was a marine in Korea and we grew up rural and hunted, so the introduction to guns started early.
i was raised in Connecticut. A solid number of my extended family members had some type of firearms in their position (mostly pistols). My uncle was a police chief. So I was comfortable around firearms from a young age. But there were no guns in my household that I knew of growing up. but, i was never actually taught how fire a weapon when I was little. My Father was served in the Vietnam but I guess he just never got around to teaching me or he didn't think it was important. when I was 17. I was eventually taught how to fire a combat shotgun (i dont know what type) and an Olympian 12 gauge shotgun by my cousin's boyfriend who is a marine. You and I are from too different parts of the country i assume, so opinions differ depending where you are from and how you were raised. I personally think you should wait until the teens to teach kids how to operate firearms. But as long as the teacher knows what they are doing and the kid is mature enough to not fool around I don't really see an issue.
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(03-01-2018 11:16 AM)Huskypride Wrote:
(03-01-2018 10:09 AM)Crebman Wrote:
(03-01-2018 09:30 AM)Huskypride Wrote:
(03-01-2018 09:14 AM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:
(03-01-2018 09:04 AM)Huskypride Wrote: that's too young to be teaching that youngster how to shoot IMO. I personally would wait until 15 or so, But I also I don't have kids, so, I guess it depends on the child itself and if they are mature enough to learn how to handle firearms safely, and listen to your instructions without fooling around.
Depends on a lot of things... If guns are in the house the kid should be exposed so that they are not "mysterious" objects with which to play.
Can't argue with that, but I would still wait a little bit until at least teen years personally.
My dad bought me my first 20ga single shot at 8 years old and taught me how to shoot it and the gun safety requirements. The single shot came first and he explained that I needed to learn to make the 1st shot count and using a single shot would reinforce that. He then started taking me hunting with it for squirrels.
He bought me my first 12ga pump shotgun at 12. He allowed me to hunt squirrels by myself at 16. I hunted with that until I finished college.
He was a marine in Korea and we grew up rural and hunted, so the introduction to guns started early.
i was raised in Connecticut. A solid number of my extended family members had some type of firearms in their position (mostly pistols). My uncle was a police chief. So I was comfortable around firearms from a young age. But there were no guns in my household that I knew of growing up. but, i was never actually taught how fire a weapon when I was little. My Father was served in the Vietnam but I guess he just never got around to teaching me or he didn't think it was important. when I was 17. I was eventually taught how to fire a combat shotgun (i dont know what type) and an Olympian 12 gauge shotgun by my cousin's boyfriend who is a marine. You and I are from too different parts of the country i assume, so opinions differ depending where you are from and how you were raised. I personally think you should wait until the teens to teach kids how to operate firearms. But as long as the teacher knows what they are doing and the kid is mature enough to not fool around I don't really see an issue.
Well I doubt they have to worry about him shooting up the place
(03-01-2018 06:04 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:
(03-01-2018 11:16 AM)Huskypride Wrote:
(03-01-2018 10:09 AM)Crebman Wrote:
(03-01-2018 09:30 AM)Huskypride Wrote:
(03-01-2018 09:14 AM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote: Depends on a lot of things... If guns are in the house the kid should be exposed so that they are not "mysterious" objects with which to play.
Can't argue with that, but I would still wait a little bit until at least teen years personally.
My dad bought me my first 20ga single shot at 8 years old and taught me how to shoot it and the gun safety requirements. The single shot came first and he explained that I needed to learn to make the 1st shot count and using a single shot would reinforce that. He then started taking me hunting with it for squirrels.
He bought me my first 12ga pump shotgun at 12. He allowed me to hunt squirrels by myself at 16. I hunted with that until I finished college.
He was a marine in Korea and we grew up rural and hunted, so the introduction to guns started early.
i was raised in Connecticut. A solid number of my extended family members had some type of firearms in their position (mostly pistols). My uncle was a police chief. So I was comfortable around firearms from a young age. But there were no guns in my household that I knew of growing up. but, i was never actually taught how fire a weapon when I was little. My Father was served in the Vietnam but I guess he just never got around to teaching me or he didn't think it was important. when I was 17. I was eventually taught how to fire a combat shotgun (i dont know what type) and an Olympian 12 gauge shotgun by my cousin's boyfriend who is a marine. You and I are from too different parts of the country i assume, so opinions differ depending where you are from and how you were raised. I personally think you should wait until the teens to teach kids how to operate firearms. But as long as the teacher knows what they are doing and the kid is mature enough to not fool around I don't really see an issue.
What is a "combat shotgun"?
Military grade shotgun... whatever. Thats what he called it. So thats what I'm calling it. Its not a big deal lol