Meanwhile we can always celebrate those close wins against SMU and Tulane.

(02-20-2018 10:33 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  Folks that really think hiring Penny will bring Wiseman to Memphis are quite wishful.

I'm the king of wishful thinking.

(02-20-2018 10:34 AM)80sTiger Wrote:  

(02-20-2018 10:33 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  Folks that really think hiring Penny will bring Wiseman to Memphis are quite wishful.

Just reminded he's a Nashville kid, so ...

That's a huge miss for Vandy!

(02-20-2018 10:33 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  Folks that really think hiring Penny will bring Wiseman to Memphis are quite wishful.

I’ve been told differently

(02-20-2018 11:57 AM)Titans3775 Wrote:  

(02-20-2018 11:37 AM)Tigergary Wrote:  

(02-20-2018 11:30 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(02-20-2018 10:41 AM)HometownTiger Wrote:  If Penny can’t get Wiseman why hire him? Not trying to be an *** but I any coach who took this job and gave a crap could close the other kids. It’s the kids like Wiseman that would potentially change the program overnight.

Is Wiseman a program changer...In the one year he will be here?

If he is and it's only one year that's fine. Cause finally other top recruits will see memphis as a destination again.

If he reclassifies, he will have to spend 2 years in college due to his age.

I think he is eligible for the draft so long as he is 18 and 1 year removed from High School.



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(02-20-2018 12:41 PM)Tygrys Wrote:  

(02-20-2018 11:57 AM)Titans3775 Wrote:  

(02-20-2018 11:37 AM)Tigergary Wrote:  

(02-20-2018 11:30 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(02-20-2018 10:41 AM)HometownTiger Wrote:  If Penny can’t get Wiseman why hire him? Not trying to be an *** but I any coach who took this job and gave a crap could close the other kids. It’s the kids like Wiseman that would potentially change the program overnight.

Is Wiseman a program changer...In the one year he will be here?

If he is and it's only one year that's fine. Cause finally other top recruits will see memphis as a destination again.

If he reclassifies, he will have to spend 2 years in college due to his age.

I think he is eligible for the draft so long as he is 18 and 1 year removed from High School.



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You are correct...

And ball dominant players are the ones that can quickly change a program...I don't believe Wiseman is one of those.

Even is Wiseman was on this team we likely still wouldn't be an NCAA caliber team...We would be closer.

I would assume that Wiseman would be a better rim protector and post player than anyone we have now. But our glaring weaknesses of perimeter shooting and on ball defense would still be there.

Anytime Wiseman would catch the ball the guys guarding Rivers\Thorton and Brewton\Johnson could come and sit in his lap not allowing any room to operate in the post.

Bring in an all around scorer/defender and that would elevate this team more than any big would.

(02-20-2018 12:41 PM)Tygrys Wrote:  

(02-20-2018 11:57 AM)Titans3775 Wrote:  

(02-20-2018 11:37 AM)Tigergary Wrote:  

(02-20-2018 11:30 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(02-20-2018 10:41 AM)HometownTiger Wrote:  If Penny can’t get Wiseman why hire him? Not trying to be an *** but I any coach who took this job and gave a crap could close the other kids. It’s the kids like Wiseman that would potentially change the program overnight.

Is Wiseman a program changer...In the one year he will be here?

If he is and it's only one year that's fine. Cause finally other top recruits will see memphis as a destination again.

If he reclassifies, he will have to spend 2 years in college due to his age.

I think he is eligible for the draft so long as he is 18 and 1 year removed from High School.



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He is currently 16 if I understand correctly.

You must be 19 at the end of the calendar year of the draft AND be one year removed from your graduating year of HS.

(02-20-2018 12:28 PM)Joe1 Wrote:  

(02-20-2018 10:33 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  Folks that really think hiring Penny will bring Wiseman to Memphis are quite wishful.

I’ve been told differently

Also, after reading the article Wiseman would consider Memphis if Penny were the coach.

(02-20-2018 02:00 PM)Titans3775 Wrote:  

(02-20-2018 12:41 PM)Tygrys Wrote:  

(02-20-2018 11:57 AM)Titans3775 Wrote:  

(02-20-2018 11:37 AM)Tigergary Wrote:  

(02-20-2018 11:30 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  Is Wiseman a program changer...In the one year he will be here?

If he is and it's only one year that's fine. Cause finally other top recruits will see memphis as a destination again.

If he reclassifies, he will have to spend 2 years in college due to his age.

I think he is eligible for the draft so long as he is 18 and 1 year removed from High School.



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He is currently 16 if I understand correctly.

Yep, he will be 17 in March. Earliest NBA draft Wiseman can be eligible for is the 2020 draft, unless the NBA one-and-done rule is changed.

(02-20-2018 10:47 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(02-20-2018 10:41 AM)HometownTiger Wrote:  If Penny can’t get Wiseman why hire him? Not trying to be an *** but I any coach who took this job and gave a crap could close the other kids. It’s the kids like Wiseman that would potentially change the program overnight.

Getting players like that would be great, but IMO, the aim should be kids between 50-150. We should be in the game for any of those recruits.

So when will Orlando finally start to get players in that range? Highest rating HS kid he has so far is 162nd. Currently the average ranking of his HS recruits is approx 257.

(02-20-2018 03:18 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(02-20-2018 10:47 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(02-20-2018 10:41 AM)HometownTiger Wrote:  If Penny can’t get Wiseman why hire him? Not trying to be an *** but I any coach who took this job and gave a crap could close the other kids. It’s the kids like Wiseman that would potentially change the program overnight.

Getting players like that would be great, but IMO, the aim should be kids between 50-150. We should be in the game for any of those recruits.

So when will Orlando finally start to get players in that range? Highest rating HS kid he has so far is 162nd. Currently the average ranking of his HS recruits is approx 257.

Never.

Wiseman could very well UK lock for all I know.

But...if you think a kid came from Nashville to Memphis to play for Penny won't at least consider the college Penny would be the HC...you're crazy

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Wherever he goes he will attract the needed supporting cast. That part isn't the problem.

(02-20-2018 10:35 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  

(02-20-2018 10:30 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  I wonder how many minutes Tubby Saul and company invested in recruiting Wiseman?

BTW - will Tubby and the boys finally get their first Memphis area player this year?

Whatever number of minutes they invested would have been better spent elsewhere. Wiseman was/is never coming here, no matter who the coach is.

(02-20-2018 04:58 PM)NigelTufnel Wrote:  

(02-20-2018 10:35 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  

(02-20-2018 10:30 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  I wonder how many minutes Tubby Saul and company invested in recruiting Wiseman?

BTW - will Tubby and the boys finally get their first Memphis area player this year?

Whatever number of minutes they invested would have been better spent elsewhere. Wiseman was/is never coming here, no matter who the coach is.

When you say here, do you mean North Carolina?

(02-20-2018 03:26 PM)memphissince86 Wrote:  Wiseman could very well UK lock for all I know.

But...if you think a kid came from Nashville to Memphis to play for Penny won't at least consider the college Penny would be the HC...you're crazy

Don't try to talk reason to these boneheads.

When Tubby was hired and didn't know wh Charlie Moore was, that should tell you all you need to know.

(02-20-2018 05:09 PM)jamammy Wrote:  

(02-20-2018 04:58 PM)NigelTufnel Wrote:  

(02-20-2018 10:35 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  

(02-20-2018 10:30 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  I wonder how many minutes Tubby Saul and company invested in recruiting Wiseman?

BTW - will Tubby and the boys finally get their first Memphis area player this year?

Whatever number of minutes they invested would have been better spent elsewhere. Wiseman was/is never coming here, no matter who the coach is.

When you say here, do you mean North Carolina?

Here = Anywhere but Lexington, KY