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RE: Y’all still think last year was the Lawson’s fault?
I can't believe we are arguing about our own school with someone who calls himself Memtiger.
really.
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RE: Y’all still think last year was the Lawson’s fault?
Worst turn of a thread ever. And that's saying something.
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RE: Y’all still think last year was the Lawson’s fault?
(02-19-2018 05:17 PM)snowtiger Wrote: I can't believe we are arguing about our own school with someone who calls himself Memtiger.
really.
The school was fine for me, I’d just like my kids to go to a better school. Who wouldn’t?
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RE: Y’all still think last year was the Lawson’s fault?
(02-19-2018 05:49 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote: (02-19-2018 05:17 PM)snowtiger Wrote: I can't believe we are arguing about our own school with someone who calls himself Memtiger.
really.
The school was fine for me, I’d just like my kids to go to a better school. Who wouldn’t?
Dooshe!
pleze excusee tha spell, I went ta Memphas
What a *******!
Memphis is a terrific opportunity for tons of kids. I would gladly have sent either of my kids to school there had they chosen the UofM as their path.
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RE: Y’all still think last year was the Lawson’s fault?
(02-19-2018 06:00 PM)UofMTigerFan Wrote: (02-19-2018 05:49 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote: (02-19-2018 05:17 PM)snowtiger Wrote: I can't believe we are arguing about our own school with someone who calls himself Memtiger.
really.
The school was fine for me, I’d just like my kids to go to a better school. Who wouldn’t?
Dooshe!
pleze excusee tha spell, I went ta Memphas
What a *******!
Memphis is a terrific opportunity for tons of kids. I would gladly have sent either of my kids to school there had they chosen the UofM as their path.
Good for you. I’m just hoping for better! What an awful dad!
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RE: Y’all still think last year was the Lawson’s fault?
(02-19-2018 06:01 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote: (02-19-2018 06:00 PM)UofMTigerFan Wrote: (02-19-2018 05:49 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote: (02-19-2018 05:17 PM)snowtiger Wrote: I can't believe we are arguing about our own school with someone who calls himself Memtiger.
really.
The school was fine for me, I’d just like my kids to go to a better school. Who wouldn’t?
Dooshe!
pleze excusee tha spell, I went ta Memphas
What a *******!
Memphis is a terrific opportunity for tons of kids. I would gladly have sent either of my kids to school there had they chosen the UofM as their path.
Good for you. I’m just hoping for better! What an awful dad!
You whine incessantly like a little baby because posters say bad things about Tubby that will supposedly affect recruiting...then this. Incredible.
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RE: Y’all still think last year was the Lawson’s fault?
(02-19-2018 06:43 PM)Stammers Wrote: (02-19-2018 06:01 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote: (02-19-2018 06:00 PM)UofMTigerFan Wrote: (02-19-2018 05:49 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote: (02-19-2018 05:17 PM)snowtiger Wrote: I can't believe we are arguing about our own school with someone who calls himself Memtiger.
really.
The school was fine for me, I’d just like my kids to go to a better school. Who wouldn’t?
Dooshe!
pleze excusee tha spell, I went ta Memphas
What a *******!
Memphis is a terrific opportunity for tons of kids. I would gladly have sent either of my kids to school there had they chosen the UofM as their path.
Good for you. I’m just hoping for better! What an awful dad!
You whine incessantly like a little baby because posters say bad things about Tubby that will supposedly affect recruiting...then this. Incredible.
You wouldn’t know it, since you’ve never had anything to do with the university, but people know that it isn’t a strong academic university. It’s not like it’s a secret.
It’s an urban school that has educated a lot of people. A lot of people that didn’t have a lot of money and/or fantastic grades. Not that there aren’t a lot of very smart people at Memphis, it just ranks low academically. It helped me get my foot into the door to a great opportunity. I’m thankful and donate to the school. Do you?
I’ve also had season tickets for years. Sat through some good and bad times. Only missed one basketball game this year despite not being an NCAA contender.
I could care less about Tubby. I’m a fan of the program and support them regardless of the coach.
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RE: Y’all still think last year was the Lawson’s fault?
(02-19-2018 06:01 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote: (02-19-2018 06:00 PM)UofMTigerFan Wrote: (02-19-2018 05:49 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote: (02-19-2018 05:17 PM)snowtiger Wrote: I can't believe we are arguing about our own school with someone who calls himself Memtiger.
really.
The school was fine for me, I’d just like my kids to go to a better school. Who wouldn’t?
Dooshe!
pleze excusee tha spell, I went ta Memphas
What a *******!
Memphis is a terrific opportunity for tons of kids. I would gladly have sent either of my kids to school there had they chosen the UofM as their path.
Good for you. I’m just hoping for better! What an awful dad!
My mom taught at Memphis State/UM for 20 years or more. 8 degrees in my immediate family so...you really opened a can of whoopass all over yourself .
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RE: Y’all still think last year was the Lawson’s fault?
(02-14-2018 10:06 PM)chrisd11 Wrote: Dedric will lead Kansas in scoring AND rebounding, and be 1st team Big 12
KJ will either start or be 1st off the bench and average AT LEAST 10 and 5
Kansas will win the Big 12 and go to at least the Sweet 16 with the Lawsons leading the way
Now, which one of you "the Lawsons are cancers" clowns want to put your money where you mouth is?
On those predictions, I'm in every day of the week and twice on Sunday. What's your number? $1,000, $10,000? I'm good with it.
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RE: Y’all still think last year was the Lawson’s fault?
(02-19-2018 07:12 PM)snowtiger Wrote: (02-19-2018 06:01 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote: (02-19-2018 06:00 PM)UofMTigerFan Wrote: (02-19-2018 05:49 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote: (02-19-2018 05:17 PM)snowtiger Wrote: I can't believe we are arguing about our own school with someone who calls himself Memtiger.
really.
The school was fine for me, I’d just like my kids to go to a better school. Who wouldn’t?
Dooshe!
pleze excusee tha spell, I went ta Memphas
What a *******!
Memphis is a terrific opportunity for tons of kids. I would gladly have sent either of my kids to school there had they chosen the UofM as their path.
Good for you. I’m just hoping for better! What an awful dad!
My mom taught at Memphis State/UM for 20 years or more. 8 degrees in my immediate family so...you really opened a can of whoopass all over yourself .
Whatever.. Ok, it’s on par with Harvard and Yale...
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RE: Y’all still think last year was the Lawson’s fault?
(02-16-2018 08:23 PM)Stammers Wrote: (02-16-2018 07:59 AM)Atlanta Wrote: (02-16-2018 07:56 AM)holyterror Wrote: Bottom Line: If we had the Lawsons, would we be a good team this year? NIT? NCAA? CBI? SPCA?
Worse record - not a team at all, just more contention.
Yes because OBVIOUSLY...
Parks/Rivers/Davenport/Johnson > Dedric/KJ/Davenport/Markel
As confused as ever.
Pretty even as of now.
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RE: Y’all still think last year was the Lawson’s fault?
(02-16-2018 10:23 PM)salukiblue Wrote: (02-16-2018 05:26 PM)Tiger87 Wrote: (02-12-2018 11:03 AM)salukiblue Wrote: (02-12-2018 10:36 AM)southpaw1 Wrote: (02-11-2018 08:12 PM)snowtiger Wrote: Plus, I don't think they quit... But if they did, why didn't Tubby sit them on the bench?
O yea...that's right. He didn't recruit anyone to fill their shoes.
OK..back to this. They didn't 'quit' when Saul took their dad's spot as assistant coach.
Can anyone pinpoint the exact game they quit?
Wasn't it the late season trip to Florida? We got walloped by UCF and gave up after that.
I think that is urban legend, or just convenient to the sheep.
The next game out, Memphis thumped Tulsa by 22 and played one of their best defensive games of the year. Crawford and the Lawsons had more points (45) than Tulsa had (44).
The next game was the Temple game where Tubby refused to call a timeout during a 25-2 run in the 1st half, turning a fast start by Memphis (not usually a trademark of a "quitting" team) 23-14 lead into a 38-25 halftime deficit.
Memphis was down 55-38 in the 2nd half and then, on the play of Dedric, came back to cut the lead to 59-54. Best I can tell, furious second half comebacks aren't synonymous with quitting teams. Dedric with 27 and 12 in a losing effort.
Next game at UConn. Tigers jump out early take an 17 point lead in the first and have a 40-26 lead at the half. They extend it to 49-34 with 15 minutes to go before collapsing in the last 5 minutes. However, most "quitting" teams don't bust azz for 35 minutes and keep double digit leads on the road.
The next game, at Cinci, could have been Exhibit 1 of their quitting. Down by 30 at the half. EXCEPT, instead of totally playing dead the rest of the game, Memphis cuts it to 6 with five minutes to go.
The next game vs. Houston, Memphis (again falls down early) by double digits and comes back to keep the game within a couple possessions the rest of the game and has a chance to win the game on a last second shot. Again, not a quit game at all.
Next game, vs. Tulane. Memphis has lost five in a row. Against a terrible Tulane team Memphis falls behind by double digits early(--AGAIN--anyone seeing a pattern here?). Surely this team has quit now.
Except, Memphis proceeds to erase a 31-23 deficit by outscoring Tulane 69-39 the rest of the way. Quitters don't normally do that.
SMU--Memphis again digs an early hole by falling behind by double digits, but SMU is far too good to allow the Tigers to claw their way back.
Maybe Memphis quit that game. But hell, it was the last game of the year on the road vs. the best team in the league. The outcome wasn't shocking, just the margin.
So there's the "post UCF" quit that was really never a quit.
Cool story. However, there was a definite change after that Florida trip - between the USF and UCF games. Our eyes saw it and the numbers back it up.
Dedric's PPG and RPG dipped just slightly - not statistically relevant. Although his Assists dropped dramatically.
Jeremiah's cumulative numbers actually went up.
But the biggest drops were from KJ, Jimario, and Markel. KJ and Jimario became about 25% less productive. Markel had a huge drop in productivity. He went from 14 & 5 to 9 & 3. From 50% shooting to 42%.
I don't know if "quit" is the right word - or the popular "team chemistry". But something happened.
Of course too, you probably don't realize that KJ was injured at the end of the year so badly that he didn't practice about the last month of the season. But he still played. I guess THAT doesn't fit your agenda, though.
Link? I always wanted to do that.
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RE: Y’all still think last year was the Lawson’s fault?
(02-18-2018 03:49 PM)Stammers Wrote: (02-18-2018 08:59 AM)Atlanta Wrote: We're splitting hairs on the schedule. It's weak by any measurement & has been trend since JP became coach & could set the schedule.
How many years was the home OOC schedule good when Cal was here?
It wasn't so much the home schedule but the overall OOC had to be better during the CUSA years to have any quality games to win.
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RE: Y’all still think last year was the Lawson’s fault?
(02-19-2018 07:31 PM)bcspiker Wrote: (02-16-2018 10:23 PM)salukiblue Wrote: (02-16-2018 05:26 PM)Tiger87 Wrote: (02-12-2018 11:03 AM)salukiblue Wrote: (02-12-2018 10:36 AM)southpaw1 Wrote: Wasn't it the late season trip to Florida? We got walloped by UCF and gave up after that.
I think that is urban legend, or just convenient to the sheep.
The next game out, Memphis thumped Tulsa by 22 and played one of their best defensive games of the year. Crawford and the Lawsons had more points (45) than Tulsa had (44).
The next game was the Temple game where Tubby refused to call a timeout during a 25-2 run in the 1st half, turning a fast start by Memphis (not usually a trademark of a "quitting" team) 23-14 lead into a 38-25 halftime deficit.
Memphis was down 55-38 in the 2nd half and then, on the play of Dedric, came back to cut the lead to 59-54. Best I can tell, furious second half comebacks aren't synonymous with quitting teams. Dedric with 27 and 12 in a losing effort.
Next game at UConn. Tigers jump out early take an 17 point lead in the first and have a 40-26 lead at the half. They extend it to 49-34 with 15 minutes to go before collapsing in the last 5 minutes. However, most "quitting" teams don't bust azz for 35 minutes and keep double digit leads on the road.
The next game, at Cinci, could have been Exhibit 1 of their quitting. Down by 30 at the half. EXCEPT, instead of totally playing dead the rest of the game, Memphis cuts it to 6 with five minutes to go.
The next game vs. Houston, Memphis (again falls down early) by double digits and comes back to keep the game within a couple possessions the rest of the game and has a chance to win the game on a last second shot. Again, not a quit game at all.
Next game, vs. Tulane. Memphis has lost five in a row. Against a terrible Tulane team Memphis falls behind by double digits early(--AGAIN--anyone seeing a pattern here?). Surely this team has quit now.
Except, Memphis proceeds to erase a 31-23 deficit by outscoring Tulane 69-39 the rest of the way. Quitters don't normally do that.
SMU--Memphis again digs an early hole by falling behind by double digits, but SMU is far too good to allow the Tigers to claw their way back.
Maybe Memphis quit that game. But hell, it was the last game of the year on the road vs. the best team in the league. The outcome wasn't shocking, just the margin.
So there's the "post UCF" quit that was really never a quit.
Cool story. However, there was a definite change after that Florida trip - between the USF and UCF games. Our eyes saw it and the numbers back it up.
Dedric's PPG and RPG dipped just slightly - not statistically relevant. Although his Assists dropped dramatically.
Jeremiah's cumulative numbers actually went up.
But the biggest drops were from KJ, Jimario, and Markel. KJ and Jimario became about 25% less productive. Markel had a huge drop in productivity. He went from 14 & 5 to 9 & 3. From 50% shooting to 42%.
I don't know if "quit" is the right word - or the popular "team chemistry". But something happened.
Of course too, you probably don't realize that KJ was injured at the end of the year so badly that he didn't practice about the last month of the season. But he still played. I guess THAT doesn't fit your agenda, though.
Link? I always wanted to do that.
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At the 41:30 mark.
http://www.espn929.com/media/audio-chann...117-hour-2
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RE: Y’all still think last year was the Lawson’s fault?
(02-19-2018 08:01 PM)salukiblue Wrote: (02-19-2018 07:31 PM)bcspiker Wrote: (02-16-2018 10:23 PM)salukiblue Wrote: (02-16-2018 05:26 PM)Tiger87 Wrote: (02-12-2018 11:03 AM)salukiblue Wrote: I think that is urban legend, or just convenient to the sheep.
The next game out, Memphis thumped Tulsa by 22 and played one of their best defensive games of the year. Crawford and the Lawsons had more points (45) than Tulsa had (44).
The next game was the Temple game where Tubby refused to call a timeout during a 25-2 run in the 1st half, turning a fast start by Memphis (not usually a trademark of a "quitting" team) 23-14 lead into a 38-25 halftime deficit.
Memphis was down 55-38 in the 2nd half and then, on the play of Dedric, came back to cut the lead to 59-54. Best I can tell, furious second half comebacks aren't synonymous with quitting teams. Dedric with 27 and 12 in a losing effort.
Next game at UConn. Tigers jump out early take an 17 point lead in the first and have a 40-26 lead at the half. They extend it to 49-34 with 15 minutes to go before collapsing in the last 5 minutes. However, most "quitting" teams don't bust azz for 35 minutes and keep double digit leads on the road.
The next game, at Cinci, could have been Exhibit 1 of their quitting. Down by 30 at the half. EXCEPT, instead of totally playing dead the rest of the game, Memphis cuts it to 6 with five minutes to go.
The next game vs. Houston, Memphis (again falls down early) by double digits and comes back to keep the game within a couple possessions the rest of the game and has a chance to win the game on a last second shot. Again, not a quit game at all.
Next game, vs. Tulane. Memphis has lost five in a row. Against a terrible Tulane team Memphis falls behind by double digits early(--AGAIN--anyone seeing a pattern here?). Surely this team has quit now.
Except, Memphis proceeds to erase a 31-23 deficit by outscoring Tulane 69-39 the rest of the way. Quitters don't normally do that.
SMU--Memphis again digs an early hole by falling behind by double digits, but SMU is far too good to allow the Tigers to claw their way back.
Maybe Memphis quit that game. But hell, it was the last game of the year on the road vs. the best team in the league. The outcome wasn't shocking, just the margin.
So there's the "post UCF" quit that was really never a quit.
Cool story. However, there was a definite change after that Florida trip - between the USF and UCF games. Our eyes saw it and the numbers back it up.
Dedric's PPG and RPG dipped just slightly - not statistically relevant. Although his Assists dropped dramatically.
Jeremiah's cumulative numbers actually went up.
But the biggest drops were from KJ, Jimario, and Markel. KJ and Jimario became about 25% less productive. Markel had a huge drop in productivity. He went from 14 & 5 to 9 & 3. From 50% shooting to 42%.
I don't know if "quit" is the right word - or the popular "team chemistry". But something happened.
Of course too, you probably don't realize that KJ was injured at the end of the year so badly that he didn't practice about the last month of the season. But he still played. I guess THAT doesn't fit your agenda, though.
Link? I always wanted to do that.
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At the 41:30 mark.
http://www.espn929.com/media/audio-chann...117-hour-2
Kj was a volume shooter who shot a very low percentage and horribly inefficient.
KJ was a poor defender that couldn't guard on the perimeter
KJ was a good rebounder
I think KJ will eventually be a good player for Kansas as he will be almost 30 when he leaves.
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RE: Y’all still think last year was the Lawson’s fault?
The Temple game says it was Tubby that quit.
We came out hot. Lead by 9 points....
They went on 25--2 run.
Shocking. We went down by 13.
Tubby didn't call ONE time out during a 25-2 run.
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RE: Y’all still think last year was the Lawson’s fault?
(02-19-2018 09:11 PM)snowtiger Wrote: The Temple game says it was Tubby that quit.
We came out hot. Lead by 9 points....
They went on 25--2 run.
Shocking. We went down by 13.
Tubby didn't call ONE time out during a 25-2 run.
Did he quit against Temple this year?
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RE: Y’all still think last year was the Lawson’s fault?
(02-19-2018 09:17 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote: (02-19-2018 09:11 PM)snowtiger Wrote: The Temple game says it was Tubby that quit.
We came out hot. Lead by 9 points....
They went on 25--2 run.
Shocking. We went down by 13.
Tubby didn't call ONE time out during a 25-2 run.
Did he quit against Temple this year?
This year's game is not relevant to the discussion. There are no Lawsons.
25--2 run. 25 big ones they scored to our measly little 2 .
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RE: Y’all still think last year was the Lawson’s fault?
(02-19-2018 09:34 PM)snowtiger Wrote: (02-19-2018 09:17 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote: (02-19-2018 09:11 PM)snowtiger Wrote: The Temple game says it was Tubby that quit.
We came out hot. Lead by 9 points....
They went on 25--2 run.
Shocking. We went down by 13.
Tubby didn't call ONE time out during a 25-2 run.
Did he quit against Temple this year?
This year's game is not relevant to the discussion. There are no Lawsons.
25--2 run. 25 big ones they scored to our measly little 2 .
Why couldn’t the Lawson’s make a basket? Maybe that’s a better question. After all, I hear Dedric is going to lead Kansas in scoring and rebounding next year. Not to mention being the Big 12 player of the year.
Hell, we beat them this year at Temple with a bunch of Jucos..
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RE: Y’all still think last year was the Lawson’s fault?
(02-19-2018 09:44 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote: (02-19-2018 09:34 PM)snowtiger Wrote: (02-19-2018 09:17 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote: (02-19-2018 09:11 PM)snowtiger Wrote: The Temple game says it was Tubby that quit.
We came out hot. Lead by 9 points....
They went on 25--2 run.
Shocking. We went down by 13.
Tubby didn't call ONE time out during a 25-2 run.
Did he quit against Temple this year?
This year's game is not relevant to the discussion. There are no Lawsons.
25--2 run. 25 big ones they scored to our measly little 2 .
Why couldn’t the Lawson’s make a basket? Maybe that’s a better question. After all, I hear Dedric is going to lead Kansas in scoring and rebounding next year. Not to mention being the Big 12 player of the year.
Hell, we beat them this year at Temple with a bunch of Jucos..
Was the "person you knew" who made a 14 on the ACT you, by any chance?
Because you have me wondering...
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