confidence is definitely up after the latest mumps scare

(02-07-2018 12:26 PM)Centdukesfan Wrote:  confidence is definitely up after the latest mumps scare

Absolutely. A few less losses to deal with.

3.1

I'm up to 69

7.7 on a 10 point scale

Guys, what did I tell you all about GOAT HC Lou Rowe??? Maybe better than Coach K.

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Coaching is the problem; most talented group of JMU players that I've seen in the 8 years I've been following the team. Once Rowe learns how to manage/handle a team - they'll be unstoppable.

(02-18-2018 01:12 AM)JMU13 Wrote:  Coaching is the problem; most talented group of JMU players that I've seen in the 8 years I've been following the team. Once Rowe learns how to manage/handle a team - they'll be unstoppable.

He learned under Lefty and Lefty was not a good sideline coach. He knew who to put a team together through recruiting and from there the players did the rest. I'm not sure LR has the knowledge through mentoring necessary to be a good game manager. I'm sure he'll get better, but he's really going to have to rely on his ability to bring in good players.

(02-18-2018 06:52 AM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  

(02-18-2018 01:12 AM)JMU13 Wrote:  Coaching is the problem; most talented group of JMU players that I've seen in the 8 years I've been following the team. Once Rowe learns how to manage/handle a team - they'll be unstoppable.

He learned under Lefty and Lefty was not a good sideline coach. He knew who to put a team together through recruiting and from there the players did the rest. I'm not sure LR has the knowledge through mentoring necessary to be a good game manager. I'm sure he'll get better, but he's really going to have to rely on his ability to bring in good players.

I think the Lou Rowe/Lefty mentor thing is overplayed. Lou Rowe never coached for Lefty the same way he never coached for Lon Kruger or Eric Musselman or Pat Riley all of the other coaches he played for. Lou Rowe was a player for Lefty 25 years ago. As a son of a coach I'm sure Lou Rowe tried to absorb as much as he could while playing for Lefty but he had bigger fish to fry as a legit pro prospect back in the day. Does Lou pay homage to Lefty and maybe try to build a program like Lefty did in terms of players, recruiting etc? Is he trying to reignite the excitement under Lefty in the program?- sure but Lou's coaching style has more likely been shaped by his time as an assistant coach. Lou was also mentored by Kenny Brooks- Brooks is a more direct Lefty coaching tree guy having been an assistant for Lefty before switching to the women's team.

Speaking of Lou's other coaching stops prior to JMU- Kevin Baggert and Rider currently sit atop the MAAC and Michael Huger is having his best year yet at Bowling Green. Maybe Lou's recruiting played a small hand in some of the success those programs are starting to have but regardless it looks like those guys are solid coaches when folks may have thought otherwise when Lou was first hired.

You can put me in the category of fans who generally feels that the impact that most coaches can have in terms of game strategy/x's and o's is often overrated and it's the players that make all the difference. It's why barring players leaving the program I would put my confidence level for 19-20 at close to 100. If you watch these true freshman play- not only will they be all league caliber by as early as next season but by the time they are upper classmen they have the potential to win a lot of games as Juniors.

(02-19-2018 07:47 PM)NJDuke97 Wrote:  Lou was also mentored by Kenny Brooks- Brooks is a more direct Lefty coaching tree guy having been an assistant for Lefty before switching to the women's team.

He went from coaching with Sherm to coaching with Childers, right? How many years was he with Lefty?

I can't believe I'm saying this... I'm up to a .5

(02-19-2018 07:47 PM)NJDuke97 Wrote:  

(02-18-2018 06:52 AM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  

(02-18-2018 01:12 AM)JMU13 Wrote:  Coaching is the problem; most talented group of JMU players that I've seen in the 8 years I've been following the team. Once Rowe learns how to manage/handle a team - they'll be unstoppable.

He learned under Lefty and Lefty was not a good sideline coach. He knew who to put a team together through recruiting and from there the players did the rest. I'm not sure LR has the knowledge through mentoring necessary to be a good game manager. I'm sure he'll get better, but he's really going to have to rely on his ability to bring in good players.

I think the Lou Rowe/Lefty mentor thing is overplayed. Lou Rowe never coached for Lefty the same way he never coached for Lon Kruger or Eric Musselman or Pat Riley all of the other coaches he played for. Lou Rowe was a player for Lefty 25 years ago. As a son of a coach I'm sure Lou Rowe tried to absorb as much as he could while playing for Lefty but he had bigger fish to fry as a legit pro prospect back in the day. Does Lou pay homage to Lefty and maybe try to build a program like Lefty did in terms of players, recruiting etc? Is he trying to reignite the excitement under Lefty in the program?- sure but Lou's coaching style has more likely been shaped by his time as an assistant coach. Lou was also mentored by Kenny Brooks- Brooks is a more direct Lefty coaching tree guy having been an assistant for Lefty before switching to the women's team.

Speaking of Lou's other coaching stops prior to JMU- Kevin Baggert and Rider currently sit atop the MAAC and Michael Huger is having his best year yet at Bowling Green. Maybe Lou's recruiting played a small hand in some of the success those programs are starting to have but regardless it looks like those guys are solid coaches when folks may have thought otherwise when Lou was first hired.

You can put me in the category of fans who generally feels that the impact that most coaches can have in terms of game strategy/x's and o's is often overrated and it's the players that make all the difference. It's why barring players leaving the program I would put my confidence level for 19-20 at close to 100. If you watch these true freshman play- not only will they be all league caliber by as early as next season but by the time they are upper classmen they have the potential to win a lot of games as Juniors.

I might feel this way as well, had this not made such a large impact on my thoughts. Pete Gaudet took over a 9 -3 Duke Blue Devil team in the middle of the 1994 - 1995 season. Mike Krzyzewski went out with back issues and that same team finished the season with only 13 wins. It was awful. This proved to me coaches make a huge difference in player rotation and game strategy, more than I ever imagined.

(02-19-2018 08:12 PM)HyperDuke Wrote:  

(02-19-2018 07:47 PM)NJDuke97 Wrote:  Lou was also mentored by Kenny Brooks- Brooks is a more direct Lefty coaching tree guy having been an assistant for Lefty before switching to the women's team.

He went from coaching with Sherm to coaching with Childers, right? How many years was he with Lefty?

My bad I thought Brooks was on staff with Lefty- you are right it looks like he was added to staff under Dillard and started his assistant coaching career under Bart Bellairs, a Lefty disciple and former assistant, at VMI. Brooks ended his college playing career in 1991 and started as an assistant at VMI in 1994. Lou Rowe ended his playing career in 1995 and started his college coaching career in 2007. A little different path to coaching because Lou played professionally for a bunch of years.

(02-20-2018 12:25 AM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  

(02-19-2018 07:47 PM)NJDuke97 Wrote:  

(02-18-2018 06:52 AM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  

(02-18-2018 01:12 AM)JMU13 Wrote:  Coaching is the problem; most talented group of JMU players that I've seen in the 8 years I've been following the team. Once Rowe learns how to manage/handle a team - they'll be unstoppable.

He learned under Lefty and Lefty was not a good sideline coach. He knew who to put a team together through recruiting and from there the players did the rest. I'm not sure LR has the knowledge through mentoring necessary to be a good game manager. I'm sure he'll get better, but he's really going to have to rely on his ability to bring in good players.

I think the Lou Rowe/Lefty mentor thing is overplayed. Lou Rowe never coached for Lefty the same way he never coached for Lon Kruger or Eric Musselman or Pat Riley all of the other coaches he played for. Lou Rowe was a player for Lefty 25 years ago. As a son of a coach I'm sure Lou Rowe tried to absorb as much as he could while playing for Lefty but he had bigger fish to fry as a legit pro prospect back in the day. Does Lou pay homage to Lefty and maybe try to build a program like Lefty did in terms of players, recruiting etc? Is he trying to reignite the excitement under Lefty in the program?- sure but Lou's coaching style has more likely been shaped by his time as an assistant coach. Lou was also mentored by Kenny Brooks- Brooks is a more direct Lefty coaching tree guy having been an assistant for Lefty before switching to the women's team.

Speaking of Lou's other coaching stops prior to JMU- Kevin Baggert and Rider currently sit atop the MAAC and Michael Huger is having his best year yet at Bowling Green. Maybe Lou's recruiting played a small hand in some of the success those programs are starting to have but regardless it looks like those guys are solid coaches when folks may have thought otherwise when Lou was first hired.

You can put me in the category of fans who generally feels that the impact that most coaches can have in terms of game strategy/x's and o's is often overrated and it's the players that make all the difference. It's why barring players leaving the program I would put my confidence level for 19-20 at close to 100. If you watch these true freshman play- not only will they be all league caliber by as early as next season but by the time they are upper classmen they have the potential to win a lot of games as Juniors.

I might feel this way as well, had this not made such a large impact on my thoughts. Pete Gaudet took over a 9 -3 Duke Blue Devil team in the middle of the 1994 - 1995 season. Mike Krzyzewski went out with back issues and that same team finished the season with only 13 wins. It was awful. This proved to me coaches make a huge difference in player rotation and game strategy, more than I ever imagined.

No doubt some coaches can make a big difference on the floor - those are the elite coaches- we're not really talking about that here.

Congrats (AGAIN!) to Matt Lewis for ANOTHER CAA ROTW award. He should have CAA ROTY locked up at this point I'd think.

(02-20-2018 08:06 AM)Wear Purple Wrote:  Congrats (AGAIN!) to Matt Lewis for ANOTHER CAA ROTW award. He should have CAA ROTY locked up at this point I'd think.

Kenny Brooks definitely coached under lefty though it may have been as ahead assistant as he was on the bench when we won the caa in 1994.

In today's RVA fish wrap -
http://www.richmond.com/sports/college/s...90711.html

(02-20-2018 08:27 AM)bobbyjmu Wrote:  In today's RVA fish wrap -
http://www.richmond.com/sports/college/s...90711.html

Good article. Thanks for posting it.

(02-20-2018 08:18 AM)jmu98 Wrote:  

(02-20-2018 08:06 AM)Wear Purple Wrote:  Congrats (AGAIN!) to Matt Lewis for ANOTHER CAA ROTW award. He should have CAA ROTY locked up at this point I'd think.

Kenny Brooks definitely coached under lefty though it may have been as ahead assistant as he was on the bench when we won the caa in 1994.

I thought so too. Didn't mean to make 97 think otherwise!