(02-06-2018 08:04 PM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  Calkins, for the most part, tells it like it is.

So does most of the Tiger-related print, despite the awful product USA Today has transformed our paper into.

This.

USA Today has a terrible, terrible product. And has done the same to all the TN metro newspapers, except Chatt which is privately owned. Still as bad as it is, I mean hell, where do you get reliable news from otherwise? TV/radio...maybe. Internet...please. Blogs or podcasts...just opinions veiled as news.

The Memphis Daily News does a decent job with overall local news. Former CA sports writer Don Wade does a good job with sports coverage, but only on a weekly basis.

(02-06-2018 06:13 PM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(02-06-2018 03:29 PM)Tiger65 Wrote:  Only those who repeat negative comments in the media either know or should know that repeated opinions can become "facts" over time per Edward Bernays methods. This can be either good or bad. It is bad when used to undermine support of the hometown team. There are those that think it is good for the team to treated in a negative way. It is easy to see these folks do not have the best interests for The University of Memphis, the coaches and the teams.

If you think the University’s sports programs get too little coverage or that the CA is overly negative then you have not had much experience in life.

I think the CA is not using the ethics required by a good newspaper. This is because I personally know of the lack of ethics used by the CA in the case of Memphis Tiger basketball. I call this personal knowledge a part of my experience in life. Maybe it is better to keep your mouth closed than to display your bias or stupidity.

(02-07-2018 08:21 AM)tigerlands Wrote:  

(02-06-2018 08:04 PM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  Calkins, for the most part, tells it like it is.

So does most of the Tiger-related print, despite the awful product USA Today has transformed our paper into.

This.

USA Today has a terrible, terrible product. And has done the same to all the TN metro newspapers, except Chatt which is privately owned. Still as bad as it is, I mean hell, where do you get reliable news from otherwise? TV/radio...maybe. Internet...please. Blogs or podcasts...just opinions veiled as news.

The Memphis Daily News does a decent job with overall local news. Former CA sports writer Don Wade does a good job with sports coverage, but only on a weekly basis.

The CA looks like a flyer.

In fact, the Memphis Flyer(as puke as it is) is two or three times as big as the CA and is free.

The weekly sales ads that come in the mail are bigger and more informative than the CA.

But amidst all this, their upper brass still make mega bank while "allowing" interns to work for nothing and sleep in their back yards.

Sad.

Corporation 101.

All chiefs, no indians.

Can we still say that?

(02-06-2018 06:54 PM)jamammy Wrote:  

(02-06-2018 04:20 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(02-06-2018 04:09 PM)jamammy Wrote:  I mean, yes, the CA is a pitiful excuse of a metropolitan newspaper and a mere shell of it's former self of many year ago.

Yes, the CA brass are over paid hacks.

Yes, it should be put out of it's misery and it's upper ranks put out to pasture.

Yes, Calkins is a smug, lofty individual but, at least he CAN write a little bit.

Can't think of one other writer at the CA that I could a read whole article from for several years back.

Since Wolken.

These other guys are just fillers.

Sad, sway back CA.

And replaced with what?

Who cares?

You on the payroll?

Yes, do away with independent journalism. Can't see any negatives there. Just ask North Koreans.

(02-07-2018 11:43 AM)Tiger65 Wrote:  

(02-06-2018 06:13 PM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(02-06-2018 03:29 PM)Tiger65 Wrote:  Only those who repeat negative comments in the media either know or should know that repeated opinions can become "facts" over time per Edward Bernays methods. This can be either good or bad. It is bad when used to undermine support of the hometown team. There are those that think it is good for the team to treated in a negative way. It is easy to see these folks do not have the best interests for The University of Memphis, the coaches and the teams.

If you think the University’s sports programs get too little coverage or that the CA is overly negative then you have not had much experience in life.

I think the CA is not using the ethics required by a good newspaper. This is because I personally know of the lack of ethics used by the CA in the case of Memphis Tiger basketball. I call this personal knowledge a part of my experience in life. Maybe it is better to keep your mouth closed than to display your bias or stupidity.

Lets assume you do have personal knowledge of the CA's not using ethics required by a newspaper. Instead of hinting around, Why not just come out and give the examples you experienced ....unless you are trying to protect the CA...

(02-07-2018 12:15 PM)TonyDaTiger Wrote:  

(02-06-2018 06:54 PM)jamammy Wrote:  

(02-06-2018 04:20 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(02-06-2018 04:09 PM)jamammy Wrote:  I mean, yes, the CA is a pitiful excuse of a metropolitan newspaper and a mere shell of it's former self of many year ago.

Yes, the CA brass are over paid hacks.

Yes, it should be put out of it's misery and it's upper ranks put out to pasture.

Yes, Calkins is a smug, lofty individual but, at least he CAN write a little bit.

Can't think of one other writer at the CA that I could a read whole article from for several years back.

Since Wolken.

These other guys are just fillers.

Sad, sway back CA.

And replaced with what?

Who cares?

You on the payroll?

Yes, do away with independent journalism. Can't see any negatives there. Just ask North Koreans.

Never said that.

Just said the CA will be gone when those who make the big bux there decide to retire.

It is NOT set up to continue because the CEOs are milking every last dime out of it.

There are other independent papers.

(02-07-2018 12:15 PM)TonyDaTiger Wrote:  

(02-06-2018 06:54 PM)jamammy Wrote:  

(02-06-2018 04:20 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(02-06-2018 04:09 PM)jamammy Wrote:  I mean, yes, the CA is a pitiful excuse of a metropolitan newspaper and a mere shell of it's former self of many year ago.

Yes, the CA brass are over paid hacks.

Yes, it should be put out of it's misery and it's upper ranks put out to pasture.

Yes, Calkins is a smug, lofty individual but, at least he CAN write a little bit.

Can't think of one other writer at the CA that I could a read whole article from for several years back.

Since Wolken.

These other guys are just fillers.

Sad, sway back CA.

And replaced with what?

Who cares?

You on the payroll?

Yes, do away with independent journalism. Can't see any negatives there. Just ask North Koreans.

Exactly...Some people are so short sighted.

The Flyer is great.

Must read every week.

(02-06-2018 03:29 PM)Tiger65 Wrote:  Only those who repeat negative comments in the media either know or should know that repeated opinions can become "facts" over time per Edward Bernays methods. This can be either good or bad. It is bad when used to undermine support of the hometown team. There are those that think it is good for the team to treated in a negative way. It is easy to see these folks do not have the best interests for The University of Memphis, the coaches and the teams.

Lets assume you do have personal knowledge of the CA's not using ethics required by a newspaper.

Instead of hinting around, Why not just come out and give the examples you experienced ....unless you are trying to protect the CA... Help us out by laying some knowledge on us! Stop covering up for the CA!

(02-07-2018 05:19 PM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(02-06-2018 03:29 PM)Tiger65 Wrote:  Only those who repeat negative comments in the media either know or should know that repeated opinions can become "facts" over time per Edward Bernays methods. This can be either good or bad. It is bad when used to undermine support of the hometown team. There are those that think it is good for the team to treated in a negative way. It is easy to see these folks do not have the best interests for The University of Memphis, the coaches and the teams.

Lets assume you do have personal knowledge of the CA's not using ethics required by a newspaper.

Instead of hinting around, Why not just come out and give the examples you experienced ....unless you are trying to protect the CA... Help us out by laying some knowledge on us! Stop covering up for the CA!

What if I come out and the truth hurts someone who is no longer with the CA. Left not too long ago and by the way your logic is a bit twisted.

(02-07-2018 08:05 PM)Tiger65 Wrote:  

(02-07-2018 05:19 PM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(02-06-2018 03:29 PM)Tiger65 Wrote:  Only those who repeat negative comments in the media either know or should know that repeated opinions can become "facts" over time per Edward Bernays methods. This can be either good or bad. It is bad when used to undermine support of the hometown team. There are those that think it is good for the team to treated in a negative way. It is easy to see these folks do not have the best interests for The University of Memphis, the coaches and the teams.

Lets assume you do have personal knowledge of the CA's not using ethics required by a newspaper.

Instead of hinting around, Why not just come out and give the examples you experienced ....unless you are trying to protect the CA... Help us out by laying some knowledge on us! Stop covering up for the CA!

What if I come out and the truth hurts someone who is no longer with the CA. Left not too long ago and by the way your logic is a bit twisted.

bring it then and stop being obtuse

(02-07-2018 08:05 PM)Tiger65 Wrote:  

(02-07-2018 05:19 PM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(02-06-2018 03:29 PM)Tiger65 Wrote:  Only those who repeat negative comments in the media either know or should know that repeated opinions can become "facts" over time per Edward Bernays methods. This can be either good or bad. It is bad when used to undermine support of the hometown team. There are those that think it is good for the team to treated in a negative way. It is easy to see these folks do not have the best interests for The University of Memphis, the coaches and the teams.

Lets assume you do have personal knowledge of the CA's not using ethics required by a newspaper.

Instead of hinting around, Why not just come out and give the examples you experienced ....unless you are trying to protect the CA... Help us out by laying some knowledge on us! Stop covering up for the CA!

What if I come out and the truth hurts someone who is no longer with the CA. Left not too long ago and by the way your logic is a bit twisted.

So you are protecting someone who is no longer with the CA because if you told the truth about the CA it would hurt them?

But we need to believe that the CA needs better ethics but not know what they did who did it or how it hurt the Tigers?

(02-07-2018 10:21 PM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(02-07-2018 08:05 PM)Tiger65 Wrote:  

(02-07-2018 05:19 PM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(02-06-2018 03:29 PM)Tiger65 Wrote:  Only those who repeat negative comments in the media either know or should know that repeated opinions can become "facts" over time per Edward Bernays methods. This can be either good or bad. It is bad when used to undermine support of the hometown team. There are those that think it is good for the team to treated in a negative way. It is easy to see these folks do not have the best interests for The University of Memphis, the coaches and the teams.

Lets assume you do have personal knowledge of the CA's not using ethics required by a newspaper.

Instead of hinting around, Why not just come out and give the examples you experienced ....unless you are trying to protect the CA... Help us out by laying some knowledge on us! Stop covering up for the CA!

What if I come out and the truth hurts someone who is no longer with the CA. Left not too long ago and by the way your logic is a bit twisted.

So you are protecting someone who is no longer with the CA because if you told the truth about the CA it would hurt them?

But we need to believe that the CA needs better ethics but not know what they did who did it or how it hurt the Tigers?

Remember two out of three ain't bad. The CA sent a reporter to dig up information on a player and THEN printed a false report on that player.

lol Don't let them 'bully you' into proving you know something.

They are like that.

(02-08-2018 03:56 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  lol Don't let them 'bully you' into proving you know something.

They are like that.

Thanks Tiger, and as I said in the first post per Bernays:
, “The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country.”

(02-08-2018 03:56 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  lol Don't let them 'bully you' into proving you know something.

They are like that.

If someone can't/won't back up their accusations with facts, then how can others take the accusations seriously?

(02-08-2018 04:12 PM)roundhouse74 Wrote:  

(02-08-2018 03:56 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  lol Don't let them 'bully you' into proving you know something.

They are like that.

If someone can't/won't back up their accusations with facts, then how can others take the accusations seriously?

Hey there: Do you reality think the CA is an ethical newspaper?

(02-08-2018 04:12 PM)roundhouse74 Wrote:  

(02-08-2018 03:56 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  lol Don't let them 'bully you' into proving you know something.

They are like that.

If someone can't/won't back up their accusations with facts, then how can others take the accusations seriously?

Who cares if anyone takes accusations here or anywhere seriously ?

I mean seriously.

There is no way to prove or disprove it. So we just listen or not listen whatever suits us— believe or not believe — shrug

No need to figure out or know everything. Lol

Ok carry on . I’ll buttbackout lol

(02-08-2018 04:16 PM)Tiger65 Wrote:  

(02-08-2018 04:12 PM)roundhouse74 Wrote:  

(02-08-2018 03:56 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  lol Don't let them 'bully you' into proving you know something.

They are like that.

If someone can't/won't back up their accusations with facts, then how can others take the accusations seriously?

Hey there: Do you reality think the CA is an ethical newspaper?

you don't HAVE to read it.