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Stadium Faces hold-up from John Rogers.

john rogers .......what a joke

(02-02-2018 04:14 PM)UABFRENCHY Wrote:  john rogers .......what a joke

A bad one...on us.

How can anyone be sure what Rogers said ? The last time I heard him speak it was "Grumble, Grumble, Growl, Grsutsivhkele (SWAG as I couldn't really make it out), Grumble, uh, Grumble . And that was 10 years ago. I doubt he's gotten better.

(02-02-2018 04:24 PM)BlazerPhil Wrote:  How can anyone be sure what Rogers said ? The last time I heard him speak it was "Grumble, Grumble, Growl, Grsutsivhkele (SWAG as I couldn't really make it out), Grumble, uh, Grumble . And that was 10 years ago. I doubt he's gotten better.

My impression from the few times I saw TV clips is that the man was illiterate.

There is no way people understood him to say " neighborhood revitalization" without an interpreter.

I guess he stopped getting handouts from UAB.

I once worked at a company where my immediate boss thought I was a fantastic worker. He was constantly praising my work, recommending me for raises, and telling his bosses what a great employee I was. He was right. I was all of those things I thought I was really going to go somewhere in this company. Then one day someone pulled me aside and told me that everyone in upper management thought my boss was an idiot and would never do anything he recommended, which included me. His ineptitude was killing my chances. I realized I was doomed and found another job.

This story reminds me of UAB's relationship with John Rogers. I used to think it was great he was in our corner, but then realized that having him in our corner was killing any chance of accomplishing anything.

(02-02-2018 08:37 PM)the_blazerman Wrote:  I guess he stopped getting handouts from UAB.

UA System policy (and maybe state law) changed and he had to either give up his job or he couldn't run for the legislature anymore

(02-02-2018 09:04 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  

(02-02-2018 08:37 PM)the_blazerman Wrote:  I guess he stopped getting handouts from UAB.

UA System policy (and maybe state law) changed and he had to either give up his job or he couldn't run for the legislature anymore

If I understand the existing state ethics law, if your pay is from the state funds, it is a violation of that law to serve in any compensated elected state post. That was explained to me when I asked why working professional teachers never got to serve on school boards (state or local) or in the legislature. Only "former" teachers (like the present Governor) can serve.

(02-03-2018 01:13 AM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  

(02-02-2018 09:04 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  

(02-02-2018 08:37 PM)the_blazerman Wrote:  I guess he stopped getting handouts from UAB.

UA System policy (and maybe state law) changed and he had to either give up his job or he couldn't run for the legislature anymore

If I understand the existing state ethics law, if your pay is from the state funds, it is a violation of that law to serve in any compensated elected state post. That was explained to me when I asked why working professional teachers never got to serve on school boards (state or local) or in the legislature. Only "former" teachers (like the present Governor) can serve.

The change only went into effect in the past 5 years or so. I'm almost positive it was only a UA System policy, not law, but I'm not 100% sure

(02-05-2018 08:22 AM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  

(02-03-2018 01:13 AM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  

(02-02-2018 09:04 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  

(02-02-2018 08:37 PM)the_blazerman Wrote:  I guess he stopped getting handouts from UAB.

UA System policy (and maybe state law) changed and he had to either give up his job or he couldn't run for the legislature anymore

If I understand the existing state ethics law, if your pay is from the state funds, it is a violation of that law to serve in any compensated elected state post. That was explained to me when I asked why working professional teachers never got to serve on school boards (state or local) or in the legislature. Only "former" teachers (like the present Governor) can serve.

The change only went into effect in the past 5 years or so. I'm almost positive it was only a UA System policy, not law, but I'm not 100% sure

No, that's a law. It's commonly referred to as the "Double Dipping Law." If you work for the state, be it a university, a state agency, school system, etc., you can't be a member of the legislature. You can find it at section 29-1-26, Code of Alabama.

(02-05-2018 01:51 PM)BatesUAB Wrote:  

(02-05-2018 08:22 AM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  

(02-03-2018 01:13 AM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  

(02-02-2018 09:04 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  

(02-02-2018 08:37 PM)the_blazerman Wrote:  I guess he stopped getting handouts from UAB.

UA System policy (and maybe state law) changed and he had to either give up his job or he couldn't run for the legislature anymore

If I understand the existing state ethics law, if your pay is from the state funds, it is a violation of that law to serve in any compensated elected state post. That was explained to me when I asked why working professional teachers never got to serve on school boards (state or local) or in the legislature. Only "former" teachers (like the present Governor) can serve.

The change only went into effect in the past 5 years or so. I'm almost positive it was only a UA System policy, not law, but I'm not 100% sure

No, that's a law. It's commonly referred to as the "Double Dipping Law." If you work for the state, be it a university, a state agency, school system, etc., you can't be a member of the legislature. You can find it at section 29-1-26, Code of Alabama.

Yeah, that is what got John Rogers out of UAB. It's relatively new (IE: why Rogers was at UAB in the first place). I don't think it's what BAMANBLAZERFAN was thinking, it only applies to the legislature as far as I know. UAB has a specific policy that employees must get explicit approval from the President and/or the Board of Trustees to run for any political office as well.

State law definitely doesn't preclude state employees from any political office. The Mayor of Montevallo is a professor at the University of Montevallo

My understanding is that Rodgers tried to coerce UAB into keeping the money flowing into his pockets after that law was passed by setting up a lobbying firm run by a family member for UAB to hire. UAB said no and he's been pissing in our cornflakes ever since.

(02-05-2018 01:58 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  

(02-05-2018 01:51 PM)BatesUAB Wrote:  

(02-05-2018 08:22 AM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  

(02-03-2018 01:13 AM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  

(02-02-2018 09:04 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  UA System policy (and maybe state law) changed and he had to either give up his job or he couldn't run for the legislature anymore

If I understand the existing state ethics law, if your pay is from the state funds, it is a violation of that law to serve in any compensated elected state post. That was explained to me when I asked why working professional teachers never got to serve on school boards (state or local) or in the legislature. Only "former" teachers (like the present Governor) can serve.

The change only went into effect in the past 5 years or so. I'm almost positive it was only a UA System policy, not law, but I'm not 100% sure

No, that's a law. It's commonly referred to as the "Double Dipping Law." If you work for the state, be it a university, a state agency, school system, etc., you can't be a member of the legislature. You can find it at section 29-1-26, Code of Alabama.

Yeah, that is what got John Rogers out of UAB. It's relatively new (IE: why Rogers was at UAB in the first place). I don't think it's what BAMANBLAZERFAN was thinking, it only applies to the legislature as far as I know. UAB has a specific policy that employees must get explicit approval from the President and/or the Board of Trustees to run for any political office as well.

State law definitely doesn't preclude state employees from any political office. The Mayor of Montevallo is a professor at the University of Montevallo

And UAB has an active athlete who is the Mayor of Blockingham.

(02-05-2018 04:20 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  

(02-05-2018 01:58 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  

(02-05-2018 01:51 PM)BatesUAB Wrote:  

(02-05-2018 08:22 AM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  

(02-03-2018 01:13 AM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  If I understand the existing state ethics law, if your pay is from the state funds, it is a violation of that law to serve in any compensated elected state post. That was explained to me when I asked why working professional teachers never got to serve on school boards (state or local) or in the legislature. Only "former" teachers (like the present Governor) can serve.

The change only went into effect in the past 5 years or so. I'm almost positive it was only a UA System policy, not law, but I'm not 100% sure

No, that's a law. It's commonly referred to as the "Double Dipping Law." If you work for the state, be it a university, a state agency, school system, etc., you can't be a member of the legislature. You can find it at section 29-1-26, Code of Alabama.

Yeah, that is what got John Rogers out of UAB. It's relatively new (IE: why Rogers was at UAB in the first place). I don't think it's what BAMANBLAZERFAN was thinking, it only applies to the legislature as far as I know. UAB has a specific policy that employees must get explicit approval from the President and/or the Board of Trustees to run for any political office as well.

State law definitely doesn't preclude state employees from any political office. The Mayor of Montevallo is a professor at the University of Montevallo

And UAB has an active athlete who is the Mayor of Blockingham.

correct me if im wrong did/t he pull for uab is he the owner of rivals, think he a supporter or competitor of this board. uh oh

(02-05-2018 06:27 PM)BirminghamJoseph2770 Wrote:  

(02-05-2018 04:20 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  

(02-05-2018 01:58 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  

(02-05-2018 01:51 PM)BatesUAB Wrote:  

(02-05-2018 08:22 AM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  The change only went into effect in the past 5 years or so. I'm almost positive it was only a UA System policy, not law, but I'm not 100% sure

No, that's a law. It's commonly referred to as the "Double Dipping Law." If you work for the state, be it a university, a state agency, school system, etc., you can't be a member of the legislature. You can find it at section 29-1-26, Code of Alabama.

Yeah, that is what got John Rogers out of UAB. It's relatively new (IE: why Rogers was at UAB in the first place). I don't think it's what BAMANBLAZERFAN was thinking, it only applies to the legislature as far as I know. UAB has a specific policy that employees must get explicit approval from the President and/or the Board of Trustees to run for any political office as well.

State law definitely doesn't preclude state employees from any political office. The Mayor of Montevallo is a professor at the University of Montevallo

And UAB has an active athlete who is the Mayor of Blockingham.

correct me if im wrong did/t he pull for uab is he the owner of rivals, think he a supporter or competitor of this board. uh oh

You are thinking of Jack Williams.

(02-05-2018 06:39 PM)Bham Blazer Wrote:  

(02-05-2018 06:27 PM)BirminghamJoseph2770 Wrote:  

(02-05-2018 04:20 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  

(02-05-2018 01:58 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  

(02-05-2018 01:51 PM)BatesUAB Wrote:  No, that's a law. It's commonly referred to as the "Double Dipping Law." If you work for the state, be it a university, a state agency, school system, etc., you can't be a member of the legislature. You can find it at section 29-1-26, Code of Alabama.

Yeah, that is what got John Rogers out of UAB. It's relatively new (IE: why Rogers was at UAB in the first place). I don't think it's what BAMANBLAZERFAN was thinking, it only applies to the legislature as far as I know. UAB has a specific policy that employees must get explicit approval from the President and/or the Board of Trustees to run for any political office as well.

State law definitely doesn't preclude state employees from any political office. The Mayor of Montevallo is a professor at the University of Montevallo

And UAB has an active athlete who is the Mayor of Blockingham.

correct me if im wrong did/t he pull for uab is he the owner of rivals, think he a supporter or competitor of this board. uh oh

You are thinking of Jack Williams.

oh thanks

(02-05-2018 06:47 PM)BirminghamJoseph2770 Wrote:  

(02-05-2018 06:39 PM)Bham Blazer Wrote:  

(02-05-2018 06:27 PM)BirminghamJoseph2770 Wrote:  [quote='Memphis Blazer' pid='15050794' dateline='1517865601']
correct me if im wrong did/t he pull for uab is he the owner of rivals, think he a supporter or competitor of this board. uh oh

You are thinking of Jack Williams.

oh thanks

Of course Jack Williams has not worked a real job - not politically arranged for him in last 20 years.

(02-05-2018 01:58 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  

(02-05-2018 01:51 PM)BatesUAB Wrote:  

(02-05-2018 08:22 AM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  

(02-03-2018 01:13 AM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  

(02-02-2018 09:04 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  UA System policy (and maybe state law) changed and he had to either give up his job or he couldn't run for the legislature anymore

If I understand the existing state ethics law, if your pay is from the state funds, it is a violation of that law to serve in any compensated elected state post. That was explained to me when I asked why working professional teachers never got to serve on school boards (state or local) or in the legislature. Only "former" teachers (like the present Governor) can serve.

The change only went into effect in the past 5 years or so. I'm almost positive it was only a UA System policy, not law, but I'm not 100% sure

No, that's a law. It's commonly referred to as the "Double Dipping Law." If you work for the state, be it a university, a state agency, school system, etc., you can't be a member of the legislature. You can find it at section 29-1-26, Code of Alabama.

Yeah, that is what got John Rogers out of UAB. It's relatively new (IE: why Rogers was at UAB in the first place). I don't think it's what BAMANBLAZERFAN was thinking, it only applies to the legislature as far as I know. UAB has a specific policy that employees must get explicit approval from the President and/or the Board of Trustees to run for any political office as well.

State law definitely doesn't preclude state employees from any political office. The Mayor of Montevallo is a professor at the University of Montevallo

The Mayor of any city is probably NOT paid - even partially - directly from state funds. Therefore the State Ethics Law doesn't apply. If members of any local BOE or the State BOE are paid from state funds, then working teachers are barred from those jobs under the present Ethics Law. BTW, When asked about student gifts to teachers (Xmas, end of year, etc.), the committee ruled that anything under $5 was permissible.