(02-02-2018 04:14 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(02-02-2018 04:12 PM)payday Wrote:  

(02-02-2018 12:47 PM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  

(02-02-2018 09:29 AM)JFlight21 Wrote:  Wichita's problem, from what I've seen, is that the only above average athlete (relative to their position) they start is Morris and his athleticism is mainly vertical rather than horizontally. Rose, Alston and Pierre-Louis (this guy is going to be a stud) all have better foot speed and elevation than Wichita's counterparts. It's tough to overwhelm (or even get stops) teams defensively if you can't keep up.

Same thing against SMU and Houston. Those teams have a multitude of athletic guards/wings.

No.

We've matched up against the best athletes in the country for years now and never did we look to be lacking in any glaring fashion. Sure we weren't as athletic as Kentucky but we were in their range. We certainly didn't have their average height. If anything, we pushed our "superior" opponents, they didn't push us.

Watch the following videos and honestly assess if it looks like we are struggling to keep up with the speed/athletic expression of the game. Pay particular attention to the first video as that is our EXACT same team right now

These comments about Wichita State "learning some sort of lesson" in the ACC/B12 AKA the AAC is hilarious if not maddening. Great troll job fellas!

This is the insufferable arrogance of these homers.

All these best athletes they’ve matched up to...generally THEY’VE LOST TO! During these past 6 tourney invites, they’ve beaten only 3 ranked teams. You heard that right. THREE! A 1 seed Gonzaga, 2 seed Kansas, 2 seed Ohio State. Over 6 Tourneys. The rest was a hedge podge of 7-13 seeds. They even beat a 13 seed LaSalle in the E8 get to the Final Four. Teams of much lesser quality than the Top of the AAC!

Cincy beat nearly 3 times the ranked teams in 2012 alone than WSU has in 6 Tourneys...while coming out of the Big East and making the S16.

WSU was a mid major program that put together that magical team that thru performance and luck...had that magical season. All those players are gone and the talent they attract is good enough to run the MVCs. But not the AACs!

The rest is smoke and mirrors.

Beating a "ranked team" might be the most pointless stat ever. We beat Baylor in December and they were ranked 16th ....

Is that an impressive win? Not anymore.

These are the weak arsed argument one expects from WSU fans. Whats Baylor now? 16 the in the B12?

AP #16 gets a 3-5 seed in the NCAAs. Not the bowl of dog chow Baylor has waiting for them in March.

Another 2/1 game:

Fontbonne beats Greenville 164-154, setting D-III scoring mark

Of note-
Greenville entered the game averaging a Division III-leading 124.7 points per game this season, after leading the nation in scoring in each of the previous two seasons.

Maybe the coach to take over ECU?

Dr. George Barber joined Greenville College in the fall of 1999 as head men's basketball coach. Before coming to Greenville College, Barber served as an assistant coach at Bradley University and an administrative assistant at the University of Kentucky where he was a member of Rick Pitino's staff for the 1996 national championship team. Barber graduated from Asbury College in 1986 before completing a master's degree and doctorate at the University of Kentucky.

While at Greenville as head men's basketball coach, he has coached players which have received -
1 NCCAA Pete Maravich National Player of the Year Award
23 NCCAA All Region Awards
2 NCCAA All-American Award
25 SLIAC All-Conference Awards
6 SLIAC All-Defensive Team Awards
6 SLIAC Team Sportsmanship Awards

Barber was named the 2016 SLIAC Coach of the year, and his Panthers were regular season SLIAC conference co-champions. In 2016 his Panthers led the nation (all divisions) in scoring at 114 ppg.

(02-02-2018 04:39 PM)AABearcat Wrote:  

(02-02-2018 04:34 PM)Doglando Wrote:  

(02-02-2018 04:32 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(02-02-2018 04:13 PM)Doglando Wrote:  

(02-02-2018 04:12 PM)justinhub2003 Wrote:  Yea, I know UC will regress a lot of Evans leaves.

Could be Houston, UCF and smu at the top the league next. But if UC and WSU are down, it won’t be for long.




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Healthy ucf takes the league uncontested next year if shake and evans go pro. That's not even homerism, that's fact

ill say houston could be good this year...could be elite next year

we lose 3 players of significance...gray, devin davis and vanbeck...
-losing gray coming into the season would have seemed huge but he has disappeared in games this season and we still won by 20

we have 2 espn 100 6'5+ SG, somewhere between them will replace grays production with their combined stats (hinton & jearau)

fabian white is expected to be better than devin davis (the game announcers/coaches no stop talk about his potential)
we are adding also adding a top 150 pf (brison gresham)

for vanbeck: according to sampson antoine davis is the best shooter he has seen since he came to college 4 years, in his signing day interview..a different coaching staff posted on twitter he was the best shooter in the entire recruiting cycle

and note that we are red-shirting a player Sampson said he expected to start (won texas mr basketball last year year) solely because he missed the first 2 weeks of the season (and 2 months prior) to an injury and sampson says playing too many players is horrible for defensive chemistry (already rotating 10), and didnt feel like figuring it how to work him in midseason. despite sampson saying he was good enough to start

The umass guys slipped my mind for a second. houston a top 20 team next year

I agree. I think UH is heading back to the national spotlight. They have always had a good program and you can see them on the rise again.

I just wonder how long Sampson puts up with with low fan base turnout.


He could build Houston up, leave it better then he found it but it will be hugely disappointing if they don’t start selling tickets in a brand new arena.

You just wonder if he has p5 job on his mind



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(02-02-2018 04:42 PM)justinhub2003 Wrote:  

(02-02-2018 04:39 PM)AABearcat Wrote:  

(02-02-2018 04:34 PM)Doglando Wrote:  

(02-02-2018 04:32 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(02-02-2018 04:13 PM)Doglando Wrote:  Healthy ucf takes the league uncontested next year if shake and evans go pro. That's not even homerism, that's fact

ill say houston could be good this year...could be elite next year

we lose 3 players of significance...gray, devin davis and vanbeck...
-losing gray coming into the season would have seemed huge but he has disappeared in games this season and we still won by 20

we have 2 espn 100 6'5+ SG, somewhere between them will replace grays production with their combined stats (hinton & jearau)

fabian white is expected to be better than devin davis (the game announcers/coaches no stop talk about his potential)
we are adding also adding a top 150 pf (brison gresham)

for vanbeck: according to sampson antoine davis is the best shooter he has seen since he came to college 4 years, in his signing day interview..a different coaching staff posted on twitter he was the best shooter in the entire recruiting cycle

and note that we are red-shirting a player Sampson said he expected to start (won texas mr basketball last year year) solely because he missed the first 2 weeks of the season (and 2 months prior) to an injury and sampson says playing too many players is horrible for defensive chemistry (already rotating 10), and didnt feel like figuring it how to work him in midseason. despite sampson saying he was good enough to start

The umass guys slipped my mind for a second. houston a top 20 team next year

I agree. I think UH is heading back to the national spotlight. They have always had a good program and you can see them on the rise again.

I just wonder how long Sampson puts up with with low fan base turnout.


He could build Houston up, leave it better then he found it but it will be hugely disappointing if they don’t start selling tickets in a brand new arena.

You just wonder if he has p5 job on his mind



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Sampson seems to be visibly frustrated with fan support and the fact that even local media doesn’t talk about them enough.


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(02-02-2018 04:42 PM)justinhub2003 Wrote:  

(02-02-2018 04:39 PM)AABearcat Wrote:  

(02-02-2018 04:34 PM)Doglando Wrote:  

(02-02-2018 04:32 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(02-02-2018 04:13 PM)Doglando Wrote:  Healthy ucf takes the league uncontested next year if shake and evans go pro. That's not even homerism, that's fact

ill say houston could be good this year...could be elite next year

we lose 3 players of significance...gray, devin davis and vanbeck...
-losing gray coming into the season would have seemed huge but he has disappeared in games this season and we still won by 20

we have 2 espn 100 6'5+ SG, somewhere between them will replace grays production with their combined stats (hinton & jearau)

fabian white is expected to be better than devin davis (the game announcers/coaches no stop talk about his potential)
we are adding also adding a top 150 pf (brison gresham)

for vanbeck: according to sampson antoine davis is the best shooter he has seen since he came to college 4 years, in his signing day interview..a different coaching staff posted on twitter he was the best shooter in the entire recruiting cycle

and note that we are red-shirting a player Sampson said he expected to start (won texas mr basketball last year year) solely because he missed the first 2 weeks of the season (and 2 months prior) to an injury and sampson says playing too many players is horrible for defensive chemistry (already rotating 10), and didnt feel like figuring it how to work him in midseason. despite sampson saying he was good enough to start

The umass guys slipped my mind for a second. houston a top 20 team next year

I agree. I think UH is heading back to the national spotlight. They have always had a good program and you can see them on the rise again.

I just wonder how long Sampson puts up with with low fan base turnout.


He could build Houston up, leave it better then he found it but it will be hugely disappointing if they don’t start selling tickets in a brand new arena.

You just wonder if he has p5 job on his mind

True but it could just be that I am older, but I see UH as a good job. The history of the program with Guy Lewis. The improved facility. Fertile basketball recruiting area. Lots of compelling reasons for Sampson to stay, but you never know.

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14 straight Cincy Tourney bids in the Metro and CUSA. And now 6 straight from the AAC. That just happens to be every year UC was in each of those conferences.

With all do respect to the forum. These are the facts. Nothing will change in that regard next season. The way to the NCAAs always has...and always will...run thru Cincinnati.

It’s kinda like Cincy’s 30-2 record vs Houston. It’s just the way things are....

(02-02-2018 04:46 PM)payday Wrote:  14 straight Cincy Tourney bids in the Metro and CUSA. And now 6 straight from the AAC. That just happens to be every year UC was in each of those conferences.

With all do respect to the forum. These are the facts. Nothing will change in that regard next season. The way to the NCAAs always has...and always will...run thru Cincinnati.

This will be cinci's first AAC regular season title, no? If evans leaves mick better get a damn good grad transfer in to have any prayer of repeating

Edit: should add they also havent won an aac conference tourney
Just a damn solid and consistent program, experiencing their first elite season in a while

(02-02-2018 04:46 PM)payday Wrote:  14 straight Cincy Tourney bids in the Metro and CUSA. And now 6 straight from the AAC. That just happens to be every year UC was in each of those conferences.

With all do respect to the forum. These are the facts. Nothing will change in that regard next season. The way to the NCAAs always has...and always will...run thru Cincinnati.

The way TO the NCAA's maybe, the way to WINNING in the NCAA's... certainly not.

Come talk to me when yUCk makes it to the 2nd weekend of the NCAA tournament more than once every 20 years... LMFAO!

Two things you can always count on with Cronin: 1) UglyballTM and 2) NCAA tournament disappointments.

Not trolling... just teaching (history).


T


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(02-02-2018 04:39 PM)payday Wrote:  

(02-02-2018 04:14 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(02-02-2018 04:12 PM)payday Wrote:  

(02-02-2018 12:47 PM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  

(02-02-2018 09:29 AM)JFlight21 Wrote:  Wichita's problem, from what I've seen, is that the only above average athlete (relative to their position) they start is Morris and his athleticism is mainly vertical rather than horizontally. Rose, Alston and Pierre-Louis (this guy is going to be a stud) all have better foot speed and elevation than Wichita's counterparts. It's tough to overwhelm (or even get stops) teams defensively if you can't keep up.

Same thing against SMU and Houston. Those teams have a multitude of athletic guards/wings.

No.

We've matched up against the best athletes in the country for years now and never did we look to be lacking in any glaring fashion. Sure we weren't as athletic as Kentucky but we were in their range. We certainly didn't have their average height. If anything, we pushed our "superior" opponents, they didn't push us.

Watch the following videos and honestly assess if it looks like we are struggling to keep up with the speed/athletic expression of the game. Pay particular attention to the first video as that is our EXACT same team right now

These comments about Wichita State "learning some sort of lesson" in the ACC/B12 AKA the AAC is hilarious if not maddening. Great troll job fellas!

This is the insufferable arrogance of these homers.

All these best athletes they’ve matched up to...generally THEY’VE LOST TO! During these past 6 tourney invites, they’ve beaten only 3 ranked teams. You heard that right. THREE! A 1 seed Gonzaga, 2 seed Kansas, 2 seed Ohio State. Over 6 Tourneys. The rest was a hedge podge of 7-13 seeds. They even beat a 13 seed LaSalle in the E8 get to the Final Four. Teams of much lesser quality than the Top of the AAC!

Cincy beat nearly 3 times the ranked teams in 2012 alone than WSU has in 6 Tourneys...while coming out of the Big East and making the S16.

WSU was a mid major program that put together that magical team that thru performance and luck...had that magical season. All those players are gone and the talent they attract is good enough to run the MVCs. But not the AACs!

The rest is smoke and mirrors.

Beating a "ranked team" might be the most pointless stat ever. We beat Baylor in December and they were ranked 16th ....

Is that an impressive win? Not anymore.

These are the weak arsed argument one expects from WSU fans. Whats Baylor now? 16 the in the B12?

AP #16 gets a 3-5 seed in the NCAAs. Not the bowl of dog chow Baylor has waiting for them in March.

uhhhh .. do you not have any reading comprehension ... I literally just said beating Baylor wasn't impressive. Yet it falls into the "beating a ranked team" stat that you threw out trying to show how impressive Cincy was in 2012 (another irrelevant fact)

(02-02-2018 04:39 PM)payday Wrote:  

(02-02-2018 04:14 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(02-02-2018 04:12 PM)payday Wrote:  

(02-02-2018 12:47 PM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  

(02-02-2018 09:29 AM)JFlight21 Wrote:  Wichita's problem, from what I've seen, is that the only above average athlete (relative to their position) they start is Morris and his athleticism is mainly vertical rather than horizontally. Rose, Alston and Pierre-Louis (this guy is going to be a stud) all have better foot speed and elevation than Wichita's counterparts. It's tough to overwhelm (or even get stops) teams defensively if you can't keep up.

Same thing against SMU and Houston. Those teams have a multitude of athletic guards/wings.

No.

We've matched up against the best athletes in the country for years now and never did we look to be lacking in any glaring fashion. Sure we weren't as athletic as Kentucky but we were in their range. We certainly didn't have their average height. If anything, we pushed our "superior" opponents, they didn't push us.

Watch the following videos and honestly assess if it looks like we are struggling to keep up with the speed/athletic expression of the game. Pay particular attention to the first video as that is our EXACT same team right now

These comments about Wichita State "learning some sort of lesson" in the ACC/B12 AKA the AAC is hilarious if not maddening. Great troll job fellas!

This is the insufferable arrogance of these homers.

All these best athletes they’ve matched up to...generally THEY’VE LOST TO! During these past 6 tourney invites, they’ve beaten only 3 ranked teams. You heard that right. THREE! A 1 seed Gonzaga, 2 seed Kansas, 2 seed Ohio State. Over 6 Tourneys. The rest was a hedge podge of 7-13 seeds. They even beat a 13 seed LaSalle in the E8 get to the Final Four. Teams of much lesser quality than the Top of the AAC!

Cincy beat nearly 3 times the ranked teams in 2012 alone than WSU has in 6 Tourneys...while coming out of the Big East and making the S16.

WSU was a mid major program that put together that magical team that thru performance and luck...had that magical season. All those players are gone and the talent they attract is good enough to run the MVCs. But not the AACs!

The rest is smoke and mirrors.

Beating a "ranked team" might be the most pointless stat ever. We beat Baylor in December and they were ranked 16th ....

Is that an impressive win? Not anymore.

These are the weak arsed argument one expects from WSU fans. Whats Baylor now? 16 the in the B12?

AP #16 gets a 3-5 seed in the NCAAs. Not the bowl of dog chow Baylor has waiting for them in March.

uhhhh .. do you not have any reading comprehension ... I literally just said beating Baylor wasn't impressive. Yet it falls into the "beating a ranked team" stat that you threw out trying to show how impressive Cincy was in 2012 (another irrelevant fact)

(02-02-2018 04:49 PM)Doglando Wrote:  

(02-02-2018 04:46 PM)payday Wrote:  14 straight Cincy Tourney bids in the Metro and CUSA. And now 6 straight from the AAC. That just happens to be every year UC was in each of those conferences.

With all do respect to the forum. These are the facts. Nothing will change in that regard next season. The way to the NCAAs always has...and always will...run thru Cincinnati.

This will be cinci's first AAC regular season title, no? If evans leaves mick better get a damn good grad transfer in to have any prayer of repeating

Edit: should add they also havent won an aac conference tourney
Just a damn solid and consistent program, experiencing their first elite season in a while

Maybe. But I don't think the cupboard is as bare as you might think.

(02-02-2018 04:49 PM)Doglando Wrote:  

(02-02-2018 04:46 PM)payday Wrote:  14 straight Cincy Tourney bids in the Metro and CUSA. And now 6 straight from the AAC. That just happens to be every year UC was in each of those conferences.

With all do respect to the forum. These are the facts. Nothing will change in that regard next season. The way to the NCAAs always has...and always will...run thru Cincinnati.

This will be cinci's first AAC regular season title, no? If evans leaves mick better get a damn good grad transfer in to have any prayer of repeating

Edit: should add they also havent won an aac conference tourney
Just a damn solid and consistent program, experiencing their first elite season in a while

I didn't realize they'd had such limited success in the past. No wonder PlaydUm is acting so insane. He's overcome with exuberance.


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(02-02-2018 04:49 PM)Doglando Wrote:  

(02-02-2018 04:46 PM)payday Wrote:  14 straight Cincy Tourney bids in the Metro and CUSA. And now 6 straight from the AAC. That just happens to be every year UC was in each of those conferences.

With all do respect to the forum. These are the facts. Nothing will change in that regard next season. The way to the NCAAs always has...and always will...run thru Cincinnati.

This will be cinci's first AAC regular season title, no? If evans leaves mick better get a damn good grad transfer in to have any prayer of repeating

Edit: should add they also havent won an aac conference tourney
Just a damn solid and consistent program, experiencing their first elite season in a while

No

(02-02-2018 04:42 PM)justinhub2003 Wrote:  

(02-02-2018 04:39 PM)AABearcat Wrote:  

(02-02-2018 04:34 PM)Doglando Wrote:  

(02-02-2018 04:32 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(02-02-2018 04:13 PM)Doglando Wrote:  Healthy ucf takes the league uncontested next year if shake and evans go pro. That's not even homerism, that's fact

ill say houston could be good this year...could be elite next year

we lose 3 players of significance...gray, devin davis and vanbeck...
-losing gray coming into the season would have seemed huge but he has disappeared in games this season and we still won by 20

we have 2 espn 100 6'5+ SG, somewhere between them will replace grays production with their combined stats (hinton & jearau)

fabian white is expected to be better than devin davis (the game announcers/coaches no stop talk about his potential)
we are adding also adding a top 150 pf (brison gresham)

for vanbeck: according to sampson antoine davis is the best shooter he has seen since he came to college 4 years, in his signing day interview..a different coaching staff posted on twitter he was the best shooter in the entire recruiting cycle

and note that we are red-shirting a player Sampson said he expected to start (won texas mr basketball last year year) solely because he missed the first 2 weeks of the season (and 2 months prior) to an injury and sampson says playing too many players is horrible for defensive chemistry (already rotating 10), and didnt feel like figuring it how to work him in midseason. despite sampson saying he was good enough to start

The umass guys slipped my mind for a second. houston a top 20 team next year

I agree. I think UH is heading back to the national spotlight. They have always had a good program and you can see them on the rise again.

I just wonder how long Sampson puts up with with low fan base turnout.


He could build Houston up, leave it better then he found it but it will be hugely disappointing if they don’t start selling tickets in a brand new arena.

You just wonder if he has p5 job on his mind



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Dang, one woodshed beating and already wishing our coach leaves?

Well lets pretend to entertain your doubts the fans will start coming to the games in the new facility...

So coach Sampson came to UH for a reason. Having lived here and coaching for the Rockets, he knew it was gonna be easy to recruit in this city, and could build a winner in a short time. So short, he even decided to honor the scholarships of the players he inherited instead of suggesting they go play JC ball or something, without worrying about those 2 years they had left. He's a classy guy like that.

And the fact that the recruiting is pretty fruitful here won't be lost on any coaches hoping to fill the vacancy should he decide to hang it up, but from what I see, he doesn't look to be the type to "move on" to anywhere other than retirement if he decides he's done here.

I would be more worried about shocktop coach leaving for a P5 before Sampson does. Speaking of, if you needed a silver lining for losing to SMU, UH, and now Temple, there you have it. Your coach is safe for now.

(02-02-2018 04:54 PM)AABearcat Wrote:  

(02-02-2018 04:49 PM)Doglando Wrote:  

(02-02-2018 04:46 PM)payday Wrote:  14 straight Cincy Tourney bids in the Metro and CUSA. And now 6 straight from the AAC. That just happens to be every year UC was in each of those conferences.

With all do respect to the forum. These are the facts. Nothing will change in that regard next season. The way to the NCAAs always has...and always will...run thru Cincinnati.

This will be cinci's first AAC regular season title, no? If evans leaves mick better get a damn good grad transfer in to have any prayer of repeating

Edit: should add they also havent won an aac conference tourney
Just a damn solid and consistent program, experiencing their first elite season in a while

Maybe. But I don't think the cupboard is as bare as you might think.

Cincy will be similar to WSU. Could go either way next year. Lot of talent leaving, but a good pedigree and enough talent to be dangerous.

(02-02-2018 05:01 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(02-02-2018 04:54 PM)AABearcat Wrote:  

(02-02-2018 04:49 PM)Doglando Wrote:  

(02-02-2018 04:46 PM)payday Wrote:  14 straight Cincy Tourney bids in the Metro and CUSA. And now 6 straight from the AAC. That just happens to be every year UC was in each of those conferences.

With all do respect to the forum. These are the facts. Nothing will change in that regard next season. The way to the NCAAs always has...and always will...run thru Cincinnati.

This will be cinci's first AAC regular season title, no? If evans leaves mick better get a damn good grad transfer in to have any prayer of repeating

Edit: should add they also havent won an aac conference tourney
Just a damn solid and consistent program, experiencing their first elite season in a while

Maybe. But I don't think the cupboard is as bare as you might think.

Cincy will be similar to WSU. Could go either way next year. Lot of talent leaving, but a good pedigree and enough talent to be dangerous.

Agreed.

Sampson is tainted from IU. UH’s standards suits someone like Sampson. He appears to have them on the rise. We’ll see. Seems Clyde Drexler also lived there, had a HOF pedigree...yet couldn’t turn the corner for them.

(02-02-2018 05:02 PM)payday Wrote:  Sampson is tainted from IU. UH’s standards suits someone like Sampson. He appears to have them on the rise. We’ll see. Seems Clyde Drexler also lived there, had a HOF pedigree...yet couldn’t turn the corner for them.

And 0 coaching experience, quite a difference with Sampson.

(02-02-2018 04:54 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(02-02-2018 04:39 PM)payday Wrote:  

(02-02-2018 04:14 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(02-02-2018 04:12 PM)payday Wrote:  

(02-02-2018 12:47 PM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  No.

We've matched up against the best athletes in the country for years now and never did we look to be lacking in any glaring fashion. Sure we weren't as athletic as Kentucky but we were in their range. We certainly didn't have their average height. If anything, we pushed our "superior" opponents, they didn't push us.

Watch the following videos and honestly assess if it looks like we are struggling to keep up with the speed/athletic expression of the game. Pay particular attention to the first video as that is our EXACT same team right now

These comments about Wichita State "learning some sort of lesson" in the ACC/B12 AKA the AAC is hilarious if not maddening. Great troll job fellas!

This is the insufferable arrogance of these homers.

All these best athletes they’ve matched up to...generally THEY’VE LOST TO! During these past 6 tourney invites, they’ve beaten only 3 ranked teams. You heard that right. THREE! A 1 seed Gonzaga, 2 seed Kansas, 2 seed Ohio State. Over 6 Tourneys. The rest was a hedge podge of 7-13 seeds. They even beat a 13 seed LaSalle in the E8 get to the Final Four. Teams of much lesser quality than the Top of the AAC!

Cincy beat nearly 3 times the ranked teams in 2012 alone than WSU has in 6 Tourneys...while coming out of the Big East and making the S16.

WSU was a mid major program that put together that magical team that thru performance and luck...had that magical season. All those players are gone and the talent they attract is good enough to run the MVCs. But not the AACs!

The rest is smoke and mirrors.

Beating a "ranked team" might be the most pointless stat ever. We beat Baylor in December and they were ranked 16th ....

Is that an impressive win? Not anymore.

These are the weak arsed argument one expects from WSU fans. Whats Baylor now? 16 the in the B12?

AP #16 gets a 3-5 seed in the NCAAs. Not the bowl of dog chow Baylor has waiting for them in March.

uhhhh .. do you not have any reading comprehension ... I literally just said beating Baylor wasn't impressive. Yet it falls into the "beating a ranked team" stat that you threw out trying to show how impressive Cincy was in 2012 (another irrelevant fact)

All those ranked teams Cincy beat in 2012 were at minimum 8 seeds in the NCAA. AP #2 Syracuse was #1 seed, Georgetown and Marquette 3 seeds, and UL a 4 seed. Cincy beat each of them. GT twice. And #10 Fla st in the NCAAs. Like I said...more quality wins than WSU over their past 6 Tourneys.