(01-26-2018 05:17 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 05:13 PM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 04:53 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  Why are we showing Shocker games form 1981, I thought stuff from that long ago was irrelevant now? Huh...odd.

You're not following along...

Conversations on csnbbs.com are a living, breathing organism ranging from statistical analysis to school mascots named after deviant sex acts.

You can't just duck out for a few hours and then expect to hop right back on a moving train.

Steps to follow upon returning to csnbbs.com

1) Read top threads carefully (pay particular attention to what CB says).

2) Contemplate on what you've just read (CB's posts will take longest).

3) Develop a response strategy that is both entertaining and doesn't make your university look foolish (making yourself look foolish is optional).

4) Review steps 1-3 again.

5) Post.

P.S. If you're particularly rusty, sleepy, intoxicated, or just dumb, it's best to avoid certain Shocker posters as they don't misfire often. As for myself... I'm undefeated.






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I prefer to make rash uninformed decisions.

I accept your apology. Now no more eye contact out of you for a while.


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When a school gets 1,000 fans to your games I just don’t see that school ever becoming a national power regardless of if they were one 20 years ago Maybe if they can find themselves a Scott Drew there’s a chance but the chances of that are slim.

I would predict Grand Canyon to become a national power before Houston.

(01-26-2018 06:11 PM)AndShock Wrote:  When a school gets 1,000 fans to your games I just don’t see that school ever becoming a national power regardless of if they were one 20 years ago Maybe if they can find themselves a Scott Drew there’s a chance but the chances of that are slim.

I would predict Grand Canyon to become a national power before Houston.

Anger stage.

(01-26-2018 06:18 PM)Coog Engineer Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 06:11 PM)AndShock Wrote:  When a school gets 1,000 fans to your games I just don’t see that school ever becoming a national power regardless of if they were one 20 years ago Maybe if they can find themselves a Scott Drew there’s a chance but the chances of that are slim.

I would predict Grand Canyon to become a national power before Houston.

Anger stage.

I was speaking in general but glad you associate 1k fans with your school.

Houston = LIU Brooklyn = San Francisco.

Name me another recruiting hot bed and I can name a school around there who’s never becoming a national power

EDIt: Ok, actually looked up attendance for last year and I was being a little harsh. Houston is closer to schools like UMass, Davidson, or Missouri State.

(01-26-2018 06:20 PM)AndShock Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 06:18 PM)Coog Engineer Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 06:11 PM)AndShock Wrote:  When a school gets 1,000 fans to your games I just don’t see that school ever becoming a national power regardless of if they were one 20 years ago Maybe if they can find themselves a Scott Drew there’s a chance but the chances of that are slim.

I would predict Grand Canyon to become a national power before Houston.

Anger stage.

I was speaking in general but glad you associate 1k fans with your school.

Yeh, sure you were. When was the last time the fans actually scored a point? Ya, never.

You just still feel that "slight sting" of losing to the Coogs. That's pride messing with you!

(01-26-2018 06:20 PM)AndShock Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 06:18 PM)Coog Engineer Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 06:11 PM)AndShock Wrote:  When a school gets 1,000 fans to your games I just don’t see that school ever becoming a national power regardless of if they were one 20 years ago Maybe if they can find themselves a Scott Drew there’s a chance but the chances of that are slim.

I would predict Grand Canyon to become a national power before Houston.

Anger stage.

I was speaking in general but glad you associate 1k fans with your school.

Houston = LIU Brooklyn = San Francisco.

Name me another recruiting hot bed and I can name a school around there who’s never becoming a national power

EDIt: Ok, actually looked up attendance for last year and I was being a little harsh. Houston is closer to schools like UMass, Davidson, or Missouri State.

Oh my god, I love these games! I'll give you an under-the-radar hot bed. Wichita, Kansas. For a city (town?) of that size, color me impressed. Over the last five years, they've produced kids who have gone on to Purdue, South Carolina, Michigan State (x2), Arizona, Ole Miss, and Kansas. Okay, go ahead. What's the school?

(01-26-2018 06:24 PM)Coog Engineer Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 06:20 PM)AndShock Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 06:18 PM)Coog Engineer Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 06:11 PM)AndShock Wrote:  When a school gets 1,000 fans to your games I just don’t see that school ever becoming a national power regardless of if they were one 20 years ago Maybe if they can find themselves a Scott Drew there’s a chance but the chances of that are slim.

I would predict Grand Canyon to become a national power before Houston.

Anger stage.

I was speaking in general but glad you associate 1k fans with your school.

Yeh, sure you were. When was the last time the fans actually scored a point? Ya, never.

You just still feel that "slight sting" of losing to the Coogs. That's pride messing with you!

Who is the last national power to previously have 2500 people come to their home games? This isn’t a rhetorical question either. I really want to know. I’m sure some programs fit that criteria, just not a whole lot. Gonzaga maybe? Not even sure on that one. I can’t come up with any other possibilities off the top of my head.

(01-26-2018 06:31 PM)geef Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 06:20 PM)AndShock Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 06:18 PM)Coog Engineer Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 06:11 PM)AndShock Wrote:  When a school gets 1,000 fans to your games I just don’t see that school ever becoming a national power regardless of if they were one 20 years ago Maybe if they can find themselves a Scott Drew there’s a chance but the chances of that are slim.

I would predict Grand Canyon to become a national power before Houston.

Anger stage.

I was speaking in general but glad you associate 1k fans with your school.

Houston = LIU Brooklyn = San Francisco.

Name me another recruiting hot bed and I can name a school around there who’s never becoming a national power

EDIt: Ok, actually looked up attendance for last year and I was being a little harsh. Houston is closer to schools like UMass, Davidson, or Missouri State.

Oh my god, I love these games! I'll give you an under-the-radar hot bed. Wichita, Kansas. For a city (town?) of that size, color me impressed. Over the last five years, they've produced kids who have gone on to Purdue, South Carolina, Michigan State (x2), Arizona, Ole Miss, and Kansas. Okay, go ahead. What's the school?

If that’s the definition of recruiting hot bed then I don’t see how Houston fans can even use that as a bullet point as to why they’ll succeed.

(01-26-2018 06:34 PM)AndShock Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 06:31 PM)geef Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 06:20 PM)AndShock Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 06:18 PM)Coog Engineer Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 06:11 PM)AndShock Wrote:  When a school gets 1,000 fans to your games I just don’t see that school ever becoming a national power regardless of if they were one 20 years ago Maybe if they can find themselves a Scott Drew there’s a chance but the chances of that are slim.

I would predict Grand Canyon to become a national power before Houston.

Anger stage.

I was speaking in general but glad you associate 1k fans with your school.

Houston = LIU Brooklyn = San Francisco.

Name me another recruiting hot bed and I can name a school around there who’s never becoming a national power

EDIt: Ok, actually looked up attendance for last year and I was being a little harsh. Houston is closer to schools like UMass, Davidson, or Missouri State.

Oh my god, I love these games! I'll give you an under-the-radar hot bed. Wichita, Kansas. For a city (town?) of that size, color me impressed. Over the last five years, they've produced kids who have gone on to Purdue, South Carolina, Michigan State (x2), Arizona, Ole Miss, and Kansas. Okay, go ahead. What's the school?

If that’s the definition of recruiting hot bed then I don’t see how Houston fans can even use that as a bullet point as to why they’ll succeed.

You're a disappointing game show host.

(01-26-2018 06:31 PM)geef Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 06:20 PM)AndShock Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 06:18 PM)Coog Engineer Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 06:11 PM)AndShock Wrote:  When a school gets 1,000 fans to your games I just don’t see that school ever becoming a national power regardless of if they were one 20 years ago Maybe if they can find themselves a Scott Drew there’s a chance but the chances of that are slim.

I would predict Grand Canyon to become a national power before Houston.

Anger stage.

I was speaking in general but glad you associate 1k fans with your school.

Houston = LIU Brooklyn = San Francisco.

Name me another recruiting hot bed and I can name a school around there who’s never becoming a national power

EDIt: Ok, actually looked up attendance for last year and I was being a little harsh. Houston is closer to schools like UMass, Davidson, or Missouri State.

Oh my god, I love these games! I'll give you an under-the-radar hot bed. Wichita, Kansas. For a city (town?) of that size, color me impressed. Over the last five years, they've produced kids who have gone on to Purdue, South Carolina, Michigan State (x2), Arizona, Ole Miss, and Kansas. Okay, go ahead. What's the school?

Newman.

P.S WSU has 2 scholarship players on the roster from Wichita.

(01-26-2018 06:31 PM)AndShock Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 06:24 PM)Coog Engineer Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 06:20 PM)AndShock Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 06:18 PM)Coog Engineer Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 06:11 PM)AndShock Wrote:  When a school gets 1,000 fans to your games I just don’t see that school ever becoming a national power regardless of if they were one 20 years ago Maybe if they can find themselves a Scott Drew there’s a chance but the chances of that are slim.

I would predict Grand Canyon to become a national power before Houston.

Anger stage.

I was speaking in general but glad you associate 1k fans with your school.

Yeh, sure you were. When was the last time the fans actually scored a point? Ya, never.

You just still feel that "slight sting" of losing to the Coogs. That's pride messing with you!

Who is the last national power to previously have 2500 people come to their home games? This isn’t a rhetorical question either. I really want to know. I’m sure some programs fit that criteria, just not a whole lot. Gonzaga maybe? Not even sure on that one. I can’t come up with any other possibilities off the top of my head.

Hmm... I don't know that.

But what I DO know the Coogs pounded shocktop like a cheap steak... with maybe 2500 people there.

So much for your attendance fixation.

(01-26-2018 06:38 PM)Coog Engineer Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 06:31 PM)AndShock Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 06:24 PM)Coog Engineer Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 06:20 PM)AndShock Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 06:18 PM)Coog Engineer Wrote:  

Anger stage.

I was speaking in general but glad you associate 1k fans with your school.

Yeh, sure you were. When was the last time the fans actually scored a point? Ya, never.

You just still feel that "slight sting" of losing to the Coogs. That's pride messing with you!

Who is the last national power to previously have 2500 people come to their home games? This isn’t a rhetorical question either. I really want to know. I’m sure some programs fit that criteria, just not a whole lot. Gonzaga maybe? Not even sure on that one. I can’t come up with any other possibilities off the top of my head.

Hmm... I don't know that.

But what I DO know the Coogs pounded shocktop like a cheap steak... with maybe 2500 people there.

So much for your attendance fixation.

I’m getting some major deja vu. For some reason the color purple and pimps are coming to mind.

(01-26-2018 06:50 PM)AndShock Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 06:38 PM)Coog Engineer Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 06:31 PM)AndShock Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 06:24 PM)Coog Engineer Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 06:20 PM)AndShock Wrote:  I was speaking in general but glad you associate 1k fans with your school.

Yeh, sure you were. When was the last time the fans actually scored a point? Ya, never.

You just still feel that "slight sting" of losing to the Coogs. That's pride messing with you!

Who is the last national power to previously have 2500 people come to their home games? This isn’t a rhetorical question either. I really want to know. I’m sure some programs fit that criteria, just not a whole lot. Gonzaga maybe? Not even sure on that one. I can’t come up with any other possibilities off the top of my head.

Hmm... I don't know that.

But what I DO know the Coogs pounded shocktop like a cheap steak... with maybe 2500 people there.

So much for your attendance fixation.

I’m getting some major deja vu. For some reason the color purple and pimps are coming to mind.

Well that's just bruises. Those go away, but the sting lasts a while.

(01-26-2018 06:11 PM)AndShock Wrote:  When a school gets 1,000 fans to your games I just don’t see that school ever becoming a national power regardless of if they were one 20 years ago Maybe if they can find themselves a Scott Drew there’s a chance but the chances of that are slim.

I would predict Grand Canyon to become a national power before Houston.

because you have done absolutely no research on it..similar to how cold said he didnt hear baout houston basketball till he joined the aac

here is the 1993, ncaa attendance
http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/stats/m_basketba...d/1993.pdf

gonzaga had worse attendance than we do now, so did miami, stanford, creighton and temple

san diago state was doing 1500 "announced" less than half our announced now

here is 1999
http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/stats/m_basketba...d/1999.pdf
baylor with 1k less announced than we do now, texas a&m with similar UH numbers, sdsu still drastically less than us now

here is 2006
http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/stats/m_basketba...d/2006.pdf
smu, butler with worse attendance than we do now

i get Wichita fans being naive about how attendance works, success and a location like Wichita where Wichita basketball is everything, attendace isnt a real issue

what really bothers me is when those completely naive Wichita fans pretend they know how recruiting for other teams more than those who do..you are the outsider who ha been here 5 mins pretending they know more about it than those who have dealt with the issue for decades

there are national powers who had worse attendance than houston 25 years ago (relatively short amount of time for a 140year sport), there are great teams today who had worse attendance than houston just 5-10 years ago...
there are team who had hundreds of people at their games just 15 years go that have 13,000 today (sdsu)..there are obvious signs that teams in major cities fluctuate year to year in attendance depending on the product (temple, miami, how sdsu was gaining 2k a year for almost a decade)..there are clear signs attendance isnt spiked the immediate year of success but for the proceeding years..sdsu wasn't selling out, or close, its first tourney year with fisher, it was mostly empty

(01-26-2018 07:20 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 06:11 PM)AndShock Wrote:  When a school gets 1,000 fans to your games I just don’t see that school ever becoming a national power regardless of if they were one 20 years ago Maybe if they can find themselves a Scott Drew there’s a chance but the chances of that are slim.

I would predict Grand Canyon to become a national power before Houston.

because you have done absolutely no research on it..similar to how cold said he didnt hear baout houston basketball till he joined the aac

here is the 1993, ncaa attendance
http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/stats/m_basketba...d/1993.pdf

gonzaga had worse attendance than we do now, so did miami, stanford, creighton and temple

san diago state was doing 1500 "announced" less than half our announced now

here is 1999
http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/stats/m_basketba...d/1999.pdf
baylor with 1k less announced than we do now, texas a&m with similar UH numbers, sdsu still drastically less than us now

here is 2006
http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/stats/m_basketba...d/2006.pdf
smu, butler with worse attendance than we do now

i get Wichita fans being naive about how attendance works, success and a location like Wichita where Wichita basketball is everything, attendace isnt a real issue

what really bothers me is when those completely naive Wichita fans pretend they know how recruiting for other teams more than those who do..you are the outsider who ha been here 5 mins pretending they know more about it than those who have dealt with the issue for decades

there are national powers who had worse attendance than houston 25 years ago (relatively short amount of time for a 140year sport), there are great teams today who had worse attendance than houston just 5-10 years ago...
there are team who had hundreds of people at their games just 15 years go that have 13,000 today (sdsu)..there are obvious signs that teams in major cities fluctuate year to year in attendance depending on the product (temple, miami, how sdsu was gaining 2k a year for almost a decade)..there are clear signs attendance isnt spiked the immediate year of success but for the proceeding years..sdsu wasn't selling out, or close, its first tourney year with fisher, it was mostly empty

I think you can get to the level of Texas A&M, Miami, Stanford, Creighton, SMU, or Butler. You just typed a whole lot of words for no reason.

(01-26-2018 06:20 PM)AndShock Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 06:18 PM)Coog Engineer Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 06:11 PM)AndShock Wrote:  When a school gets 1,000 fans to your games I just don’t see that school ever becoming a national power regardless of if they were one 20 years ago Maybe if they can find themselves a Scott Drew there’s a chance but the chances of that are slim.

I would predict Grand Canyon to become a national power before Houston.

Anger stage.

I was speaking in general but glad you associate 1k fans with your school.

Houston = LIU Brooklyn = San Francisco.

Name me another recruiting hot bed and I can name a school around there who’s never becoming a national power

EDIt: Ok, actually looked up attendance for last year and I was being a little harsh. Houston is closer to schools like UMass, Davidson, or Missouri State.

they play in a 1 bid league....this is a stupid comparison....

and other flaws..san fransico isnt recruiting hot bed like houston...thats the equivalent of equating San Antonio to houston..yeah its texas, and produces a good one every now and then but don't get ridiculous its not houston

and neither school represent their city... rice is in houston, but will never be an option for those players...houston is THE cities team, every mayor has to pretend to love UH sports, drake wears UH jerseys whenever he has a concert here...james harden comes to our bball games.. the state governnor come to bat for houston literally every realignment occurrence..the highest watched sporting event in houston, the city, the last 5 years for college sports in UH (not texas, a&m or lsu)




when our football became good, every well known rapper in Houston made a song about how good we were, id post it but its actually a horrible song...

(01-26-2018 07:29 PM)AndShock Wrote:  I think you can get to the level of Texas A&M, Miami, Stanford, Creighton, SMU, or Butler. You just typed a whole lot of words for no reason.

what about gonzaga? their attendance was just a ****** as ours a few years ago

(01-26-2018 07:31 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 07:29 PM)AndShock Wrote:  I think you can get to the level of Texas A&M, Miami, Stanford, Creighton, SMU, or Butler. You just typed a whole lot of words for no reason.

what about gonzaga? their attendance was just a ****** as ours a few years ago

Gonzaga and Baylor found their once in a lifetime coaches who for one reason or another can’t be tempted by other jobs. I said Houston could do that same thing but the odds are very low.

(01-26-2018 01:22 PM)The Big O Wrote:  Since some folks only want to talk about recent history, how about getting stomped by Houston a couple weeks ago? The fact is, the Shockers have almost no tradition or meaningful postseason appearances outside of the past six years. Houston has a rich history to build upon and it appears they are on the rise again. Obviously WSU can only dream of having an elite program history like UCONN and UC have.

Well their was that final four in the sixties, and elite eight in the eighties. I'd say that is some tradition and meaningful postseason appearances.

Obviously no one in this league has old history as good a Cincinnati.
No one in this league has better history in the last couple decades than UConn.
Houston and Memphis have had some really good periods, so has Tulsa.
WSU and Cincinnati have had good recent history with WSU's being better.

It all adds up to a potentially excellent basketball conference.
Don't really know what there is to argue about.

(01-26-2018 07:46 PM)nafstrops Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 01:22 PM)The Big O Wrote:  Since some folks only want to talk about recent history, how about getting stomped by Houston a couple weeks ago? The fact is, the Shockers have almost no tradition or meaningful postseason appearances outside of the past six years. Houston has a rich history to build upon and it appears they are on the rise again. Obviously WSU can only dream of having an elite program history like UCONN and UC have.

Well their was that final four in the sixties, and elite eight in the eighties. I'd say that is some tradition and meaningful postseason appearances.

Obviously no one in this league has old history as good a Cincinnati.
No one in this league has better history in the last couple decades than UConn.
Houston and Memphis have had some really good periods, so has Tulsa.
WSU and Cincinnati have had good recent history with WSU's being better.

It all adds up to a potentially excellent basketball conference.
Don't really know what there is to argue about.

That final four in the sixties was five final fours and two championships. That time elite eight in the nineties was two elite eights in the nineties and a final four. We also have several sweet sixteens in the last 15 years and have made the tournament every single year since 1992 except the rebuild from 2007-2010. We were the Ap number one team in the country at some point in 1996, 1997 and 2000. Unfortunately, the tournament has not reflected our success. This data point is not the only measure. WSU<UC