(01-25-2018 09:07 PM)WMtribe17 Wrote:  Hard to beat them when they have the luxury of having no academic standards whatsoever and can take any players/transfers they want.

This is a bad post.

It’s such a tall task to ask David to play 45 minutes with no break, lead our offense effectively and get the guys running the plays, lead the fast break and guard Martin or Starr the whole game and stay in front of them on D. Something will give eventually; or multiple things, no matter how physically fit he is. You get mentally worn out too.

I’d love for him to get at least a little break. Luke is pretty good and at least get a few possessions on D out of Luke.

Nathan is also getting visibly frustrated with fouls calls of late. Yes, he got jobbed a couple times but that is going to happen. I’m worried that it’s getting in his head some and leading to frustration and/or tentative play on both ends. He is a good finesse player but he can also play a power game and I’d love to see more of that and just impose his will on the other team.

He is learning for sure and only a Soph. It’s gonna be a great next 2.5 years with this Soph class. We need an athletic 4 to pair with Nate and Pierce in this clsss if possible.

Proud of this team. Yes, we have several frustrating turnovers every game, but these guys fight and don’t quit. Gonna be a fun and interesting ride down the stretch.

Don’t really think we have enough gas in the tank available to win 3 in a row in charleston, but these guys will give it all they have and I’m super proud of them.

Go Tribe! Beat the Seahawks!

PS: Was great to see AD Huge right behind the Tribe bench at the game tonight.

(01-25-2018 09:48 PM)Tribe2011 Wrote:  

(01-25-2018 09:21 PM)billymac Wrote:  We were shooting 51% from the 3, then missed our last 3 of them in regulation and all three 3's in OT.

When Burchfield took that open 3 with a minute and a half left, had the feeling as it left his hand that if it went in we were going to win and if it didn't we were going to lose...

Tough one. Evens out with the JMU win at home in the karma tally. Great to see them play this well against a tough opponent on the road though. This gave me a lot of confidence for the first time really that we actually can have a (outside) shot at the regular season title and aren't only capable of beating up on the weaker opponents.

I cringed when that shot went off. Would have loved to see us hold for another 15-20 seconds there.

(01-25-2018 10:06 PM)TribeInTheBurg Wrote:  

(01-25-2018 09:07 PM)WMtribe17 Wrote:  Hard to beat them when they have the luxury of having no academic standards whatsoever and can take any players/transfers they want.

This is a bad post.

I agree. The snobby elitist attitude that some think gives them the ammo to trash a school and kids that they don't even know is a bad way to go. Really bad.

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At a macro level that game was a great illustration of our team's strengths and weaknesses. When we play team ball on offense we find open shooters. We did that in the first half without Knight on the court. Towson's 3-2 zone was very simple, trap and force the ball farther to half court when we rotated the ball. Basically leaving four of our players to face three of their remaining defensive players in the zone. With Knight off the court there was nobody to pass the ball inside to and allowed them to keep our three point shots guarded.

We win that game all day long if Knight isn't on the bench for 27 minutes of the 45.

I'm not sold that Towson is a better team than us at all. We can beat them next time.

I'm concerned that Knight isn't 100% physically, mentally or both. We need big Nate to pick it up.

(01-26-2018 05:33 AM)Tribal Wrote:  

(01-25-2018 10:06 PM)TribeInTheBurg Wrote:  

(01-25-2018 09:07 PM)WMtribe17 Wrote:  Hard to beat them when they have the luxury of having no academic standards whatsoever and can take any players/transfers they want.

This is a bad post.

I agree. The snobby elitist attitude that some think gives them the ammo to trash a school and kids that they don't even know is a bad way to go. Really bad.

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Plus it reflects very poorly on Pat Skerry and his staff, oh you know, the same Pat Skerry who used to be a coach at William & Mary. Idiotic post, or Moronic post, take your pick.

Really tough loss of a game we most likely win going away if Knight plays his usual minutes. With him out, as I believe Tribe32 noted, Towson didn't have to guard the middle and could concentrate on stopping our outside shooting.

Awful officiating...no way they shoot twice as many fouls as us in a very physical game, equally on both sides.

With Knight out for 27 minutes of the game it's no wonder they scored 50 points in the paint! (points out again how much Tony needs to land another good big man for next year's team). If he's in there no way they sashay through the middle for easy layups.

Beat UNCW Saturday night---no easy feat with the long bus rides in a ridiculously short turnaround time--
and this is a terrific road trip.

And wasn't Pierce sensational last night. His shooting seems to be improving with each outing as he gains confidence with it...making him, potentially, a great player for us the next 2 1/2 years.

You could sense the frustration with the team and coaches last night. It was a hard fought game. No disrespect to Towson, they played very hard. The inconsistency in the calls was hard to watch. Towson has a huge advantage on the Tribe inside, especially when Nathan is not on the floor. So, for the referees to allow so much contact on our end offensively and then virtually none on the other end from us was difficult. Coach Shaver talked about the need to get one stop, but for the most part, the refs put Towson on the line every time in the last 3 minutes of regulation. Towson failed to get the same calls at UNCW and lost. The games were that close, and that was the difference. Well, that and if either Connor or Matt makes the one look they got in the last 3 minutes, we win. It is a testament to both guys that I expected each of them to make that shot. That is how good they have both been all year in those situations. Towson is a mystery. Eddie Keyes and Zane Martin are both excellent players, yet somehow they have lost 4 conference games. I do think we showed we can play toe to toe with them.

Great effort from Pierce last night. It is really fun watching this team. As for Nathan, you could sense his frustration and he nearly got a T last night too. While I really appreciate the effort Tot, Harrison and Rowley gave last night, we are not even close to as good when Nathan is off the floor. But, the referees and the opposing coaches hold a key to taking him out of the game. Finally, I thought David was actually fairly solid last night. Towson was very physical with him all night and he never left the floor.

At the halfway point, we are very much in the race. We need to find a way to win Saturday, win our remaining 5 home games, and take one of the remaining 3 road games(Charleston, Hofstra, Northeastern) and we would finish 13-5 and have a shot to be in the top 2.

(01-25-2018 10:06 PM)TribeInTheBurg Wrote:  

(01-25-2018 09:07 PM)WMtribe17 Wrote:  Hard to beat them when they have the luxury of having no academic standards whatsoever and can take any players/transfers they want.

This is a bad post.

Agree. These posts make us look terrible.

(01-26-2018 08:39 AM)TribePride91 Wrote:  The inconsistency in the calls was hard to watch. Towson has a huge advantage on the Tribe inside, especially when Nathan is not on the floor. So, for the referees to allow so much contact on our end offensively and then virtually none on the other end from us was difficult. Coach Shaver talked about the need to get one stop, but for the most part, the refs put Towson on the line every time in the last 3 minutes of regulation. Towson failed to get the same calls at UNCW and lost.

At the halfway point, we are very much in the race. We need to find a way to win Saturday, win our remaining 5 home games, and take one of the remaining 3 road games(Charleston, Hofstra, Northeastern) and we would finish 13-5 and have a shot to be in the top 2.

Towson got one "and one" opportunity in the first half (and missed the FT). They got 5 such chances in the second half (and made only 1 of the 5 FTs). They got one "and one" in OT and made the foul shot (and after that point they needed no more help from the officials).

Jay said that Samantha Huge was at the game right behind the Tribe bench. So she had an excellent view of the officiating (certainly of at least one end of the court). So in my mind she needs to be on the horn all day today talking to CAA Commissioner D'antonio (sp?) about getting better officials for important CAA games, about getting better officials in general, and about officiating inconsistency. Silence rewards current behavior.

Of the three road games that TribePride91 mentioned above, to me the most important win is at Northeastern. They already own a tiebreaker over us that we need to equalize. We own the tiebreaker over Hofstra so, at worst, a loss to them just equalizes; and whichever way the game goes at Charleston, we have the chance to, at least, equalize it later at home. So, the NE game is crucial.

By the way, all the official box scores that I have seen of the Towson game show Towson with the technical foul (the one that Tony Shaver got). I don't think it makes any difference but I say, jokingly, that maybe Pat Skerry will get a reprimand and be excused from coaching some future half of a basketball game -- instead of Tony Shaver.

(01-26-2018 10:25 AM)Zorch Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 08:39 AM)TribePride91 Wrote:  The inconsistency in the calls was hard to watch. Towson has a huge advantage on the Tribe inside, especially when Nathan is not on the floor. So, for the referees to allow so much contact on our end offensively and then virtually none on the other end from us was difficult. Coach Shaver talked about the need to get one stop, but for the most part, the refs put Towson on the line every time in the last 3 minutes of regulation. Towson failed to get the same calls at UNCW and lost.

Towson got one "and one" opportunity in the first half (and missed the FT). They got 5 such chances in the second half (and made only 1 of the 5 FTs). They got one "and one" in OT and made the foul shot (and after that point they needed no more help from the officials).

Jay said that Samantha Huge was at the game right behind the Tribe bench. So she had an excellent view of the officiating (certainly of at least one end of the court). So in my mind she needs to be on the horn all day today talking to CAA Commissioner D'antonio (sp?) about getting better officials for important CAA games, about getting better officials in general, and about officiating inconsistency. Silence rewards current behavior.

Last night was an unusual night for the officiating around the league, in that all the teams were made up of two "newcomer" officials and an experienced lead official (Dewayne Gladden, for us).

That probably caused some of the "unbalanced" calls, (Nathan definitely can't catch a break) but this type thing has to happen. These guys have experience in lower levels of basketball, but they have to eventually get their feet wet as they move up the ladder. It happens in every industry. It's probably better that they make their mistakes in mid-season games, as opposed to late season/or tourney games.

The call has been for the CAA to get some of the up and coming "youngsters" into our officiating ranks. That will only happen by getting them time, with a senior official, out on our courts.

Of course, that doesn't really dissipate the frustration, believe me, I was screaming at the screen, also, but it does, at least, give some logic to the situation.

Has anyone else experienced making a post, but it doesn't show up until another post is made after it?


It happened to me, today and I saw it happened to TITB yesterday or the day before.

Just curious.

(01-26-2018 10:25 AM)Zorch Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 08:39 AM)TribePride91 Wrote:  The inconsistency in the calls was hard to watch. Towson has a huge advantage on the Tribe inside, especially when Nathan is not on the floor. So, for the referees to allow so much contact on our end offensively and then virtually none on the other end from us was difficult. Coach Shaver talked about the need to get one stop, but for the most part, the refs put Towson on the line every time in the last 3 minutes of regulation. Towson failed to get the same calls at UNCW and lost.

At the halfway point, we are very much in the race. We need to find a way to win Saturday, win our remaining 5 home games, and take one of the remaining 3 road games(Charleston, Hofstra, Northeastern) and we would finish 13-5 and have a shot to be in the top 2.

Towson got one "and one" opportunity in the first half (and missed the FT). They got 5 such chances in the second half (and made only 1 of the 5 FTs). They got one "and one" in OT and made the foul shot (and after that point they needed no more help from the officials).

Jay said that Samantha Huge was at the game right behind the Tribe bench. So she had an excellent view of the officiating (certainly of at least one end of the court). So in my mind she needs to be on the horn all day today talking to CAA Commissioner D'antonio (sp?) about getting better officials for important CAA games, about getting better officials in general, and about officiating inconsistency. Silence rewards current behavior.

Of the three road games that TribePride91 mentioned above, to me the most important win is at Northeastern. They already own a tiebreaker over us that we need to equalize. We own the tiebreaker over Hofstra so, at worst, a loss to them just equalizes; and whichever way the game goes at Charleston, we have the chance to, at least, equalize it later at home. So, the NE game is crucial.

By the way, all the official box scores that I have seen of the Towson game show Towson with the technical foul (the one that Tony Shaver got). I don't think it makes any difference but I say, jokingly, that maybe Pat Skerry will get a reprimand and be excused from coaching some future half of a basketball game -- instead of Tony Shaver.

There is an easy way to get better officials, pay more. Leagues agree on how much will be paid per game. The less you pay the more likely you are to get poor refs.

The A-10 pays more than the SoCon and CAA, so we see better refs at Davidson games now. You can still have issues on some Saturdays, because the ACC pays more than the A-10.

(01-26-2018 10:46 AM)billymac Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 10:25 AM)Zorch Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 08:39 AM)TribePride91 Wrote:  The inconsistency in the calls was hard to watch. Towson has a huge advantage on the Tribe inside, especially when Nathan is not on the floor. So, for the referees to allow so much contact on our end offensively and then virtually none on the other end from us was difficult. Coach Shaver talked about the need to get one stop, but for the most part, the refs put Towson on the line every time in the last 3 minutes of regulation. Towson failed to get the same calls at UNCW and lost.

Towson got one "and one" opportunity in the first half (and missed the FT). They got 5 such chances in the second half (and made only 1 of the 5 FTs). They got one "and one" in OT and made the foul shot (and after that point they needed no more help from the officials).

Jay said that Samantha Huge was at the game right behind the Tribe bench. So she had an excellent view of the officiating (certainly of at least one end of the court). So in my mind she needs to be on the horn all day today talking to CAA Commissioner D'antonio (sp?) about getting better officials for important CAA games, about getting better officials in general, and about officiating inconsistency. Silence rewards current behavior.

Last night was an unusual night for the officiating around the league, in that all the teams were made up of two "newcomer" officials and an experienced lead official (Dewayne Gladden, for us).

That probably caused some of the "unbalanced" calls, (Nathan definitely can't catch a break) but this type thing has to happen. These guys have experience in lower levels of basketball, but they have to eventually get their feet wet as they move up the ladder. It happens in every industry. It's probably better that they make their mistakes in mid-season games, as opposed to late season/or tourney games.

The call has been for the CAA to get some of the up and coming "youngsters" into our officiating ranks. That will only happen by getting them time, with a senior official, out on our courts.

Of course, that doesn't really dissipate the frustration, believe me, I was screaming at the screen, also, but it does, at least, give some logic to the situation.

Had no idea about this. That makes a ton of sense and adds great context to the wildly inconsistent night of officiating last night. I was 4 rows from the court and in OT on the charge/block call debate where the young official and Gladden looked at each other in silence for what felt like a good 5-10 seconds before Gladden ended up calling the charge on us when it was probably the young refs call to make, but he wasn't making it and was totally deferring to Gladden.

Then Tony went crazy like most of us in the stands and Gladden T'd him up.

Agreed that you have to do this, but stinks that it really hurt us last night. The were calling touch hand checks on us in the first half and nothing on Towson who were all over our guys, and the TU guards picked up their pivot foot before they drove almost all night and never got called for traveling and their bigs camped in the lane with no 3 second calls.

The refs weren't the reason we lost but they didn't help.

We should have let Tot shoot from mid court on the last possession of regulation.

Not really about Towson, but if we can beat Drexel after two five hour bus rides in less than 24 hours it might be the best win of the year thus far. Should definitely not be scheduled in this manner.

(01-26-2018 03:29 PM)tribe64 Wrote:  Not really about Towson, but if we can beat Drexel after two five hour bus rides in less than 24 hours it might be the best win of the year thus far. Should definitely not be scheduled in this manner.

Sorry, not following this post. We play Drexel at home on a Saturday after playing at home on a Thursday....

Unless your meant the Drexel game up there after we played Delaware two nights prior. I assume the team just went to Drexel from Delaware in that case.

(01-26-2018 03:44 PM)Tribe1693 Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 03:29 PM)tribe64 Wrote:  Not really about Towson, but if we can beat Drexel after two five hour bus rides in less than 24 hours it might be the best win of the year thus far. Should definitely not be scheduled in this manner.

Sorry, not following this post. We play Drexel at home on a Saturday after playing at home on a Thursday....

Unless your meant the Drexel game up there after we played Delaware two nights prior. I assume the team just went to Drexel from Delaware in that case.

Remember, the Delaware/Drexel Road Trip was before classes started and the team got out of town early to avoid snow related travel issues, then stayed up there between games. Probably the easiest road trip they’ll see this season.

Sorry for the complaining about the referees. It was just hard in the moment of a great team effort as a long time fan to see the calls swing so much in their favor. I'll admit that I had past Towson experiences of them going over our backs and consistently hacking us. Their play is always hard, but not dirty. In past years, their goal offensively was merely to shoot at the rim and then outwork for the rebound and follow up. I'll admit that this year's team is much more gifted offensively than the teams of the past for them. It is certainly not Coach Skerry's job to call fouls on his own team, either. I have not watched much of their games other than ours and the one against UNCW last week. Based on what I have personally witnessed, I am shocked they are only 5-4. Traditionally, their style has been problematic for us, especially on the boards. That is why when the shot better than we did last night, and we basically won the rebounding battle, I knew it was a great opportunity for us to get a huge win for the program. But, we are still in a great position starting the 2nd half of the conference season. Next time, I might wait at least 10-15 minutes before I post my frustration and it might get better.

(01-26-2018 03:44 PM)Tribe1693 Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 03:29 PM)tribe64 Wrote:  Not really about Towson, but if we can beat Drexel after two five hour bus rides in less than 24 hours it might be the best win of the year thus far. Should definitely not be scheduled in this manner.

Sorry, not following this post. We play Drexel at home on a Saturday after playing at home on a Thursday....

Unless your meant the Drexel game up there after we played Delaware two nights prior. I assume the team just went to Drexel from Delaware in that case.

Sorry meant UNCW.