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RE: What's wrong with Wichita State Basketball?
(01-23-2018 07:25 PM)SadderBudweiser Wrote: (01-23-2018 06:45 PM)mlb Wrote: (01-23-2018 05:59 PM)payday Wrote: (01-23-2018 05:58 PM)ShockerFever Wrote: (01-23-2018 05:27 PM)payday Wrote: Blah, blah , blah. Cincy’s 2nd most impressive run is better than WSU’s. 1992-1997. Cincy went to a Final Four and two E8’s in 5 straight Tourneys. WSU has a nice program. That’s it. Back to back losses prove it.
Back to back losses prove what?
That WSU is an above middling AAC team.
That is ridiculous. They are a top level AAC team. They are not middling in any way. They might not be what CB wanted to proclaim earlier this season but they certainly are in the top 2 or 3 teams in the conference and that will show in 6 weeks.
I agree. It’s National Power Wichita State’s SECOND STRING that is middling level ..... remember?
Or was it the water Boys?
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01-23-2018 10:04 PM |
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RE: What's wrong with Wichita State Basketball?
http://www.kansas.com/sports/college/wic...01869.html
Quote:The coach pointed out Houston guard Corey Davis Jr., who Marshall said “played like his life depended on it” against WSU. He made WSU’s players watch Davis out-hustle them to loose balls over and over, as the Shockers failed to match his intensity.
Where on earth have I heard that sentiment before?
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Oh yeah! Me.
(01-22-2018 07:09 PM)C0|db|00ded Wrote: What's wrong with suddenly skidding Wichita State?
Quote:Wichita State started the week with a 15-2 record and ranked No. 7 in the nation. Now, after back-to-back losses at SMU and Houston, the Shockers are left wondering what exactly has gone wrong.
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Two-game losing streaks are never fun for a top-10 team. Still, if Wichita State merely plays to its potential on defense and gets McDuffie up to speed, this group can look a lot more like the "old" Wichita State in a hurry. Keep an eye on the Shockers.
I'm going to submit that the Shockers spent too much time admiring their pretty shooting and their pretty rankings and forgot what got them to this point, which was angry play and ugly defense. Last week they bumped into a couple teams who were hungry as hell and jealous of the Shockers success.They were willing to trade their lives for the win hoping it would make their season. We ended up being out-angried which has been sobering to say the least to most of the knowledgeable Shocker fans I've talked to.
The Shox seem to have temporarily lost their edge. They're too white collar now and need to trade in their Diner's Club cards for lunch buckets and get back to eating Big Macs instead of boeuf bourguignon.
Discuss.
Or not.
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thespiritof1976
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RE: What's wrong with Wichita State Basketball?
IMO, there is nothing wrong with WS.
It is what is right with the AAC (depth).
Besides, they only lost two games. Hell, the SEC brags when a team loses two conference games.
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01-24-2018 09:14 AM |
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RE: What's wrong with Wichita State Basketball?
(01-22-2018 11:25 PM)TripleA Wrote: (01-22-2018 11:23 PM)AndShock Wrote: (01-22-2018 11:20 PM)TripleA Wrote: (01-22-2018 11:15 PM)AndShock Wrote: (01-22-2018 11:09 PM)TripleA Wrote: Convince their fans of that. They are the ones who think the wheels came completely off. It has to be their suckage, not the idea that other teams here are pretty decent.
And Ken Pomeroy
Why cherry pick? Look at all 65 or so rankings and see what you see.
But at least you have a season long excuse. With every new loss, you can always say, "We suck. It can't possibly be a change in conference."
Even though you brought back the same damn team from last season. I'm done. You guys are hopeless.
Because Pomeroy is what I use for pretty much every thing? And it’s the easiest metric to compare previous year ratings against? And it’s generally accepted as the best analytic site?
Like I said...you guys are really getting to the point that I'm starting to pull for you to lose every game. Which is a shame, since I was really excited when you were added to the conference.
I have a feeling I'm not alone here.
No, you are not alone. I'm not quite ready to root against them, but wow, some of these fans aren't making it easy.
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01-24-2018 01:54 PM |
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RE: What's wrong with Wichita State Basketball?
(01-24-2018 01:54 PM)Knightshift Wrote: (01-22-2018 11:25 PM)TripleA Wrote: (01-22-2018 11:23 PM)AndShock Wrote: (01-22-2018 11:20 PM)TripleA Wrote: (01-22-2018 11:15 PM)AndShock Wrote: And Ken Pomeroy
Why cherry pick? Look at all 65 or so rankings and see what you see.
But at least you have a season long excuse. With every new loss, you can always say, "We suck. It can't possibly be a change in conference."
Even though you brought back the same damn team from last season. I'm done. You guys are hopeless.
Because Pomeroy is what I use for pretty much every thing? And it’s the easiest metric to compare previous year ratings against? And it’s generally accepted as the best analytic site?
Like I said...you guys are really getting to the point that I'm starting to pull for you to lose every game. Which is a shame, since I was really excited when you were added to the conference.
I have a feeling I'm not alone here.
No, you are not alone. I'm not quite ready to root against them, but wow, some of these fans aren't making it easy.
Easy for me to separate the team from some of the fruit loops here. I really hope they can make a deep run. It's easy enough to dial out the pointless noise.
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01-24-2018 02:15 PM |
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RE: What's wrong with Wichita State Basketball?
The fans.
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01-24-2018 02:17 PM |
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RE: What's wrong with Wichita State Basketball?
(01-24-2018 02:17 PM)cotton1991 Wrote: The fans.
Over 1,000 fans traveled 602 miles to watch their beloved Shockers take one straight up the pooper down in Ozone City. That's dedication.
Of course they weren't planning on experiencing involuntary sodomy. Word is that the local Exxon stations were totally sold out of all forms of lubricant by half-time. Lots of friction brother. Then fans had to drive/fly for hours sitting on their freshly popped, cherry-red sphincters. Donut cushions have been flying off the shelves in Wichita this week while fans pray for relief. Stand-up desk purchases have also been quite brisk.
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01-24-2018 02:34 PM |
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RE: What's wrong with Wichita State Basketball?
Cold… you’ve been told over a 1,000 times and just as many different ways why the Shockers have been shocked lately: This isn’t the Missouri Valley Convalescent league that we rescued WSU from, so playing bedridden basketball in this conference won’t win Shocker Nation a conference championship….
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01-24-2018 05:06 PM |
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RE: What's wrong with Wichita State Basketball?
That picture is the most disgusting thing I’ve ever seen.
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01-25-2018 11:38 AM |
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RE: What's wrong with Wichita State Basketball?
(01-25-2018 11:38 AM)billybobby777 Wrote: That picture is the most disgusting thing I’ve ever seen.
Reminds me of the time I had amoebic dysentery.
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01-25-2018 12:19 PM |
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RE: What's wrong with Wichita State Basketball?
(01-25-2018 11:38 AM)billybobby777 Wrote: That picture is the most disgusting thing I’ve ever seen.
The Shocker's play down in Screwston was worse.
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01-25-2018 01:44 PM |
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RE: What's wrong with Wichita State Basketball?
I forgot to thank Wichita fans the other day for the sell-out at our arena. It has been a long time since we had standing room only. It was a great atmosphere, even though we lost. We had our chances at the end of the game. It was almost as good as when Wichita fans came to Tulsa Athletic soccer game and 60's something fan jumped in our faces and wanted to fight after a close win by us. Looking forward to rivalry games in the future. Wish you were playing football.
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01-26-2018 12:06 PM |
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RE: What's wrong with Wichita State Basketball?
(01-26-2018 12:06 PM)TCH51 Wrote: I forgot to thank Wichita fans the other day for the sell-out at our arena. It has been a long time since we had standing room only. It was a great atmosphere, even though we lost. We had our chances at the end of the game. It was almost as good as when Wichita fans came to Tulsa Athletic soccer game and 60's something fan jumped in our faces and wanted to fight after a close win by us. Looking forward to rivalry games in the future. Wish you were playing football.
I don't think we play soccer (worst sport ever invented BTW) but thanks for the thanks!
Hopefully we can help fill it up next year too!
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01-26-2018 12:08 PM |
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RE: What's wrong with Wichita State Basketball?
(01-22-2018 07:28 PM)HuskyU Wrote: (01-22-2018 07:26 PM)GrayBeard Wrote: Don't worry, you have...
Nope. Now it's just Hibachi Power.
Now that's funny!
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01-26-2018 02:32 PM |
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RE: What's wrong with Wichita State Basketball?
(01-23-2018 01:41 PM)HuskyU Wrote: ^ Sampson is a good coach.
Yes good coaches do figure out how to beat teams.
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01-26-2018 02:33 PM |
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RE: What's wrong with Wichita State Basketball?
I don't think we play soccer (worst sport ever invented BTW) but thanks for the thanks!
Hopefully we can help fill it up next year too!
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Tulsa Athletic is a member of NPSL and is composed mostly of college soccer players from across the nation. They play from May thru July. They are not connected with Tulsa Hurricane.
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01-26-2018 03:55 PM |
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RE: What's wrong with Wichita State Basketball?
Where can I get a Shake Milton jersey? Asking for a friend...
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01-26-2018 04:56 PM |
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RE: What's wrong with Wichita State Basketball?
(01-26-2018 04:56 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote: Where can I get a Shake Milton jersey? Asking for a friend...
They're going cheap right now brother...
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01-26-2018 05:00 PM |
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RE: What's wrong with Wichita State Basketball?
http://www.kansas.com/sports/college/wic...07544.html
Mark Adams: “Are they as good defensively as they have been? The answer right now is no. If you’re looking for a common thread in those five losses, here’s what I found: In the Notre Dame loss, Bonzie Colson went for 25. Trae Young went for 29 and 10 assists. Shake Milton went off for 33. Houston’s Rob Gray went for 24. Temple’s Quinton Rose scored 19 (on Thursday). Now that adds up to the other team’s best player averaging 26 points and shooting well over 50 percent. Really since Gregg (Marshall) has been here, that’s typically never happened.
Gary Parrish: “They’re just not good on the defensive end and that’s really surprising. They were top-15 in defensive efficiency last year... I don’t know how to explain why this Wichita State team isn’t better. They’ve got an unbelievable defensive coach and players who have done it before.”
“Does Wichita State look like a top-10 team right now? The answer is no. But if they start guarding a little better, maybe a lot better, then they’re certainly still capable of that. I would be way more concerned if the pieces weren’t in place. But almost all of the pieces that made them really good last year are basically in place. It’s just a matter of doing it.
Rob Dauster: “They’re just not defending all that well and you kind of made the assumption coming into the season that a team coached by Gregg Marshall is going to defend well regardless of what conference and who they were playing. They just haven’t done that. It doesn’t make any sense to me and I can’t figure it out."
Someone stole our defense. Aliens?
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RE: What's wrong with Wichita State Basketball?
(02-05-2018 12:47 PM)C0|db|00ded Wrote: http://www.kansas.com/sports/college/wic...07544.html
Mark Adams: “Are they as good defensively as they have been? The answer right now is no. If you’re looking for a common thread in those five losses, here’s what I found: In the Notre Dame loss, Bonzie Colson went for 25. Trae Young went for 29 and 10 assists. Shake Milton went off for 33. Houston’s Rob Gray went for 24. Temple’s Quinton Rose scored 19 (on Thursday). Now that adds up to the other team’s best player averaging 26 points and shooting well over 50 percent. Really since Gregg (Marshall) has been here, that’s typically never happened.
Gary Parrish: “They’re just not good on the defensive end and that’s really surprising. They were top-15 in defensive efficiency last year... I don’t know how to explain why this Wichita State team isn’t better. They’ve got an unbelievable defensive coach and players who have done it before.”
“Does Wichita State look like a top-10 team right now? The answer is no. But if they start guarding a little better, maybe a lot better, then they’re certainly still capable of that. I would be way more concerned if the pieces weren’t in place. But almost all of the pieces that made them really good last year are basically in place. It’s just a matter of doing it.
Rob Dauster: “They’re just not defending all that well and you kind of made the assumption coming into the season that a team coached by Gregg Marshall is going to defend well regardless of what conference and who they were playing. They just haven’t done that. It doesn’t make any sense to me and I can’t figure it out."
Someone stole our defense. Aliens?
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or it wasnt there to begin with..and your stats were inflated from playing scrubs
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