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RE: 1/17 AAC Basketball Games
It’d be a real fun drinking game having to take a shot every time TU4ever mentions MVC in a post.
01-18-2018 03:29 PM
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(01-18-2018 03:27 PM)AndShock Wrote:  This TU guy is fine, imo. A bit obsessed with WSU but that’s to be expected with the state of Tulsa’s program. rtaylor is obviously a nutter like payday he’s just better at toeing the mod’s line.

Lol, seriously not trolling

But well played.


In fairness my opinion is we will see you next year on even terms.
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RE: 1/17 AAC Basketball Games
(01-17-2018 09:02 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  
(01-17-2018 08:56 PM)edwa2 Wrote:  What excuse will cold blooded use?
I'll give you multiple choice:


A) The conference conspired with the refs to rob them

B) Wichita just can't get up unless it's to play power MVC teams

C) Jank cheated, selling his soul to satan for the win

D) Good job SMU winning your super bowl, best victory you have ever had.

(01-18-2018 10:49 AM)TU4ever Wrote:  
(01-18-2018 10:35 AM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  
(01-18-2018 10:28 AM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  Woke up this morning and saw the score of the SMU/WSU game, and was like:
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Then I thought about what this message board would look like this morning, and was like:
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Message board hasn't been that bad actually. A few are trying to get their licks in, but most people realize, that SMU just played an amazing game and would have been hard for anyone to beat them last night.

Really trying to control the narrative I see.

(01-18-2018 11:39 AM)TU4ever Wrote:  
(01-18-2018 11:31 AM)Play Angry Wrote:  Just to be clear - we are currently 5-1 in league play. SMU absolutely earned last night's win and their kudos are well deserved, but there is some overstatement of the degree of WSU's struggles in our newer, tougher league.

If an .833 winning percentage translates to "welcome to the big leagues, *****" that is a pretty amazing reflection of the state of the program and current expectations.

Unhunh, what was your average margin of win in the mvc? You haven't even entered the hard part and just had your first conference loss at home in five years.

Barely a third of the season in and already having issues. Usually conference champs don't lose at home. But keep pretending it's just the same as last year.

(01-18-2018 12:00 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  
(01-18-2018 11:46 AM)Play Angry Wrote:  
(01-18-2018 11:39 AM)TU4ever Wrote:  
(01-18-2018 11:31 AM)Play Angry Wrote:  Just to be clear - we are currently 5-1 in league play. SMU absolutely earned last night's win and their kudos are well deserved, but there is some overstatement of the degree of WSU's struggles in our newer, tougher league.

If an .833 winning percentage translates to "welcome to the big leagues, *****" that is a pretty amazing reflection of the state of the program and current expectations.

Unhunh, what was your average margin of win in the mvc? You haven't even entered the hard part and just had your first conference loss at home in five years.

Barely a third of the season in and already having issues. Usually conference champs don't lose at home. But keep pretending it's just the same as last year.

None of this is responsive and is frankly poor trolling.

Saturday is an important test for both WSU and UH - obviously, if WSU is to stay in contention for the league title then it something close to a must-win. UH likewise needs a marquee win to offset the damage of last night's debacle in New Orleans.

Point being, we are presently 5-1 in league play. The tone this morning would suggest we are in the midst of a 3 game losing streak or something comparable, which is not the case. I am happy (though it is a weak consolation) that SMU at least has their at-large hopes resuscitated after last night.

Back to regularly scheduled programming.


You all struggle with fact and opinion, everything I posted is factual. The questions I asked were pertinent to the discussion.

This is the easy part of your schedule. A third of the season is gone and you are 1-1 vs the top four, both at home. You have 3 probable losses on the road. SMU, Cincy, Houston. You have 3 more toss ups with at memphis, UCF and cincy. When. Was the last time you were looking at 4 conference losses? You also have a rivalry coming in Tulsa. That's basically half of your remaining games that could be losses or wins. When was the last time that happened.

(01-18-2018 12:08 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  
(01-18-2018 11:57 AM)ShockerFever Wrote:  
(01-18-2018 11:54 AM)geef Wrote:  
(01-18-2018 11:52 AM)ShockerFever Wrote:  
(01-18-2018 11:45 AM)TripleA Wrote:  Part of the reason for all the pushback on WSU is the couple of posters who are constantly rubbing everybody else here the wrong way.

I hope people remember this sentiment when Cincy drops a deuce.

UC fans were nothing but gracious after the game last night, particularly since the major offender is on vacation. Poor form to call for what you feel to be tit-for-tat.

You’re correct. There’s been a bit more piling on this morning which is weird, but I agree, the main culprit being on vacation has made this place sane.

TU4Ever is grinding a major axe.


Yes we all know you all are a persecuted people. Tough life being one of the faithful, would you like some help climbing on that cross?

We listened to you all for 6 months talk about domination, how good you were, that the valley is somehow the same as the AAC in quality. How great a road team you are. How you have won 65 of 66 at home, etc.

People told you different all year and now it was just a fluke win for SMU. Those who don't agree are trolling or grinding an axe. Never mind you got beat at nearly every stat and SMU owned you from pretty much start to finish even with you playing a good game.

(01-18-2018 01:15 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  
(01-18-2018 12:24 PM)ShockerFever Wrote:  
(01-18-2018 12:19 PM)Play Angry Wrote:  
(01-18-2018 12:00 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  
(01-18-2018 11:46 AM)Play Angry Wrote:  None of this is responsive and is frankly poor trolling.

Saturday is an important test for both WSU and UH - obviously, if WSU is to stay in contention for the league title then it something close to a must-win. UH likewise needs a marquee win to offset the damage of last night's debacle in New Orleans.

Point being, we are presently 5-1 in league play. The tone this morning would suggest we are in the midst of a 3 game losing streak or something comparable, which is not the case. I am happy (though it is a weak consolation) that SMU at least has their at-large hopes resuscitated after last night.

Back to regularly scheduled programming.


You all struggle with fact and opinion, everything I posted is factual. The questions I asked were pertinent to the discussion.

This is the easy part of your schedule. A third of the season is gone and you are 1-1 vs the top four, both at home. You have 3 probable losses on the road. SMU, Cincy, Houston. You have 3 more toss ups with at memphis, UCF and cincy. When. Was the last time you were looking at 4 conference losses? You also have a rivalry coming in Tulsa. That's basically half of your remaining games that could be losses or wins. When was the last time that happened.

Fine, let's play and discuss which one of us struggles with facts you silly stickler.

Quote:everything I posted is factual

I am sure you will have no problem admitting your errors and pointing out where I have lied or misstated things ITT to the same degree you willingly did (either through ignorance or intentionally, I will leave it to you which is to blame for your falsehoods).

Quote:You haven't even entered the hard part and just had your first conference loss at home in five years.

Truth-o-meter: INCORRECT. Last home loss in conference play was in 2016.

my understanding was the last home loss for conference was uni in 2012-13. Did I miss one? That would seem correct if you were 65-66 at home and just lost to OU.

Quote:Barely a third of the season in and already having issues

Quote:A third of the season is gone

Truth-o-meter: INCORRECT. More than 50% of the regular season has been played. We can both probably agree that your misstep here is attributable to the fact that you failed to reference conference play in either statement. Poor english skills likely trump willful malfeasance.

Actually since I was referring to conference play the whole time I don't have to say in conference in every sentence. English goes beyond 2nd grade. But we have established reading comprehension is not a strong suit for many wsu posters


Quote:Usually conference champs don't lose at home

Truth-o-meter: INCORRECT. Only once has a conference champ in the AAC not registered a home loss. Was this misstep rooted in stupidity or poor trolling? Hard to say.

Poor English here, but my reference was to conferences in general not the AAC specifically. Although I am surprised that only once in three years has our conference had a champion with no home conference losses. Although if Cincy does that would be 50%

Quote:You have 3 probable losses on the road. SMU, Cincy, Houston

Truth-o-meter: INCORRECT. I thought these were all facts and not just subjective dart throwing? WSU's win likelihood against these opponents per KenPom is 52% (UH), 45% (SMU) and 26% (UC).

This is an opinion and a perfect example of wsu posters not knowing the difference. You are using one metric you like. What was last night's Ken pom prediction? Facts aren't in evidence here. I mean SMU is a better team at home than on the road. They owned wsu on the road, so you think wsu will win on the road? See opinion not fact. Work on that.

Quote:You have 3 more toss ups with at memphis, UCF and cincy.

Truth-o-meter: INCORRECT. Why do these errors in your statements keep happening? It's almost like you don't understand what factual statements are? Toss-up implies even odds or very close to it. Per KenPom, the odds of victory in these games are as follows: 78% (@ Memphis), 65% (@ UCF) and 50% (vs. UC).

Again this is an opinion, see how clear this becomes? Your opinion based on Ken pom is you will win these games. Your opinion before the game against SMU last night and being at home that you would win. Fact is you lost to SMU. My opinion is you took a beating and had a crazy finish to make it a 'close' game.



I dunno, it kinda seems like you were either trolling a bit or are just kinda stupid. Take your pick. Now, please find my errors and let's discuss.

Again opinion. As you can see that is your (and many wsu posters) biggest error the inability to tell the difference between a fact and what you think. Just because people disagree with your opinion doesn't make it trolling, or a lie, or hating. Just because you say it doesn't make it true or a fact. See Fever's quote below for the perfect example of that wsu behavior.


Truth-o-meter: OWNAGE
see opinion, as opposed to fact



I answered in italics. I also begin to wonder how echo chamberish is Wichita? The agree with me or else is disturbing. Perhaps being the only show in town, and formerly the only school in the valley who cared created it? Just no one else around to point out the black and yellow glasses they have on?

(01-18-2018 01:39 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  
(01-18-2018 01:18 PM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  
(01-18-2018 11:57 AM)ShockerFever Wrote:  
(01-18-2018 11:54 AM)geef Wrote:  
(01-18-2018 11:52 AM)ShockerFever Wrote:  I hope people remember this sentiment when Cincy drops a deuce.

UC fans were nothing but gracious after the game last night, particularly since the major offender is on vacation. Poor form to call for what you feel to be tit-for-tat.

You’re correct. There’s been a bit more piling on this morning which is weird, but I agree, the main culprit being on vacation has made this place sane.

TU4Ever is grinding a major axe.

TrollU4Ever may have false alliances just like PlayDum. The effort he displays when attacking WSU does not jibe with the simple jealousy of a Tulsa fan. He definitely has an agenda and has been hurting for a long, long time.


T


...03-cool

Hmm, yes that's right, I made a fake Tulsa profile, before talk about wsu joining the AAC to lie in wait. I carefully researched Tulsa as a school and location. Patiently waiting for my Nostradomas like vision of Wichita joining the American to troll posters who are banned from their own fan site. Truthfully I had plan to ambush you on shockernet cold but the mods figured it out and banned you. I just had to be patient though I knew you'd end up here. Sucks making all those Tulsa posts about football but since you figured it out I don't have to.

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Tough dealing with you all between the God and martyr complexes. If you start adding paranoia and conspiracies to it wsu fans are going to be tough to deal with.

(01-18-2018 01:45 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  
(01-18-2018 01:35 PM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  
(01-18-2018 08:07 AM)bearcatmark Wrote:  A couple things. SMU's effective field goal percentage last night was over 75%. That's not repeatable. It's something that happens maybe 2 times a year in major conference play. That kind of shooting while partly a function of good offense / bad defense, is a statistical anomaly.

However, that doesn't hide the fact that Wichita State has been really lacking on the defensive side of the ball at times this season. I expected them to be a top 10-15 team in kenpom adjusted defensive efficiency. Right now they sit at 56. This is pretty staggering for a Greg Marshall coach team as they've been in the top 15 each year since 2014 (even finishing first 1 year). I do think they've dealt with some hot shooting at times, but this late in the season that doesn't explain everything. They just haven't been that good a team on the defensive end. They are everything many thought they would be on offense, but to be a true contender type team their defense must improve significantly.

Gregg Marshall has been quoted as saying he hasn't changed a thing about the way he teaches defense since he came to Wichita. He believes certain teams are just playing out of their asses against us and it's a statistical anomaly. Does it appear to you like we are lackadaisical on defense or that teams are merely shooting out of their asses against us?


T


...03-cool


Or maybe just the quality of teams you played went way up?

Wait that wouldn't jive with Greg Marshall inventing basketball. It would also mean changing your view that everyone else just shows up so there is somebody else on the court.

Just like you should have ran SMU legs off? Perhaps just maybe the other teams are good enough that they get to do what they want too? As opposed to the valley you fattened up on and got your world view through? What do you think? Maybe?

(01-18-2018 01:47 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  
(01-18-2018 01:42 PM)ShockerFever Wrote:  
(01-18-2018 01:39 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  
(01-18-2018 01:18 PM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  
(01-18-2018 11:57 AM)ShockerFever Wrote:  You’re correct. There’s been a bit more piling on this morning which is weird, but I agree, the main culprit being on vacation has made this place sane.

TU4Ever is grinding a major axe.

TrollU4Ever may have false alliances just like PlayDum. The effort he displays when attacking WSU does not jibe with the simple jealousy of a Tulsa fan. He definitely has an agenda and has been hurting for a long, long time.


T


...03-cool

Hmm, yes that's right, I made a fake Tulsa profile, before talk about wsu joining the AAC to lie in wait. I carefully researched Tulsa as a school and location. Patiently waiting for my Nostradomas like vision of Wichita joining the American to troll posters who are banned from their own fan site. Truthfully I had plan to ambush you on shockernet cold but the mods figured it out and banned you. I just had to be patient though I knew you'd end up here. Sucks making all those Tulsa posts about football but since you figured it out I don't have to.

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Tough dealing with you all between the God and martyr complexes. If you start adding paranoia and conspiracies to it wsu fans are going to be tough to deal with.

You scour though Shockernet too?

Wow, you are obsessed.

And your trolling is ghastly.

Got to work on that reading comprehension, maybe some library adult literacy classes for you? I'm sure there is one after your extra therapy sessions.

(01-18-2018 01:49 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  
(01-18-2018 01:47 PM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  
(01-18-2018 01:39 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  
(01-18-2018 01:18 PM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  
(01-18-2018 11:57 AM)ShockerFever Wrote:  You’re correct. There’s been a bit more piling on this morning which is weird, but I agree, the main culprit being on vacation has made this place sane.

TU4Ever is grinding a major axe.

TrollU4Ever may have false alliances just like PlayDum. The effort he displays when attacking WSU does not jibe with the simple jealousy of a Tulsa fan. He definitely has an agenda and has been hurting for a long, long time.


T


...03-cool

Hmm, yes that's right, I made a fake Tulsa profile, before talk about wsu joining the AAC to lie in wait. I carefully researched Tulsa as a school and location. Patiently waiting for my Nostradomas like vision of Wichita joining the American to troll posters who are banned from their own fan site. Truthfully I had plan to ambush you on shockernet cold but the mods figured it out and banned you. I just had to be patient though I knew you'd end up here. Sucks making all those Tulsa posts about football but since you figured it out I don't have to.

[Image: 7b24a988c727db73bcf705a55cb98fa0055ba9a7...7f0103.jpg]


Tough dealing with you all between the God and martyr complexes. If you start adding paranoia and conspiracies to it wsu fans are going to be tough to deal with.

Thou doth protest too much.

P.S. I'm not banned anywhere.

P.S.S. Okay, back to trolling 4 U!


T


...03-cool


Really? You've claimed such multiple times.

Also projecting is a bad habit, you should stop that.

Now back to your excuses and declarations of wsu dominance.

(01-18-2018 01:56 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  
(01-18-2018 01:51 PM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  
(01-18-2018 01:42 PM)ShockerFever Wrote:  
(01-18-2018 01:39 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  
(01-18-2018 01:18 PM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  TrollU4Ever may have false alliances just like PlayDum. The effort he displays when attacking WSU does not jibe with the simple jealousy of a Tulsa fan. He definitely has an agenda and has been hurting for a long, long time.


T


...03-cool

Hmm, yes that's right, I made a fake Tulsa profile, before talk about wsu joining the AAC to lie in wait. I carefully researched Tulsa as a school and location. Patiently waiting for my Nostradomas like vision of Wichita joining the American to troll posters who are banned from their own fan site. Truthfully I had plan to ambush you on shockernet cold but the mods figured it out and banned you. I just had to be patient though I knew you'd end up here. Sucks making all those Tulsa posts about football but since you figured it out I don't have to.

[Image: 7b24a988c727db73bcf705a55cb98fa0055ba9a7...7f0103.jpg]


Tough dealing with you all between the God and martyr complexes. If you start adding paranoia and conspiracies to it wsu fans are going to be tough to deal with.

You scour though Shockernet too?

Wow, you are obsessed.

And your trolling is ghastly.

This one is a hoppin' and a skippin' down PlayDum Lane. Most likely affiliated with the aforementioned offendee. He's beggin' for it.


T


...03-cool


Mommy, Daddy the mean old Tulsa fan won't agree with me that wsu is the bestest ever!


Spank him, ground him, please put him in time out.

Keep calling out the mods, I'm sure they enjoy it and it doesn't look at all bad that you do it every time someone disagrees with you.

(01-18-2018 03:10 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  
(01-18-2018 02:07 PM)Play Angry Wrote:  
(01-18-2018 01:15 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  everything I posted is factual

(01-18-2018 01:15 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  You haven't even entered the hard part and just had your first conference loss at home in five years.

Truth-o-meter: INCORRECT. Last home loss in conference play was in 2016.

my understanding was the last home loss for conference was uni in 2012-13. Did I miss one? That would seem correct if you were 65-66 at home and just lost to OU.

1) Yes, you did miss one. I even laid out the season for you (2016). What is difficult here?

(01-18-2018 01:15 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  Barely a third of the season in and already having issues.

A third of the season is gone

Truth-o-meter: INCORRECT. More than 50% of the regular season has been played. We can both probably agree that your misstep here is attributable to the fact that you failed to reference conference play in either statement. Poor english skills likely trump willful malfeasance.

Actually since I was referring to conference play the whole time I don't have to say in conference in every sentence. English goes beyond 2nd grade. But we have established reading comprehension is not a strong suit for many wsu posters

2)Actually, you never once referenced conference play with respect to the quotes in context. Please learn to take an L properly.

(01-18-2018 01:15 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  Usually conference champs don't lose at home

Truth-o-meter: INCORRECT. Only once has a conference champ in the AAC not registered a home loss. Was this misstep rooted in stupidity or poor trolling? Hard to say.

Poor English here, but my reference was to conferences in general not the AAC specifically. Although I am surprised that only once in three years has our conference had a champion with no home conference losses. Although if Cincy does that would be 50%

3)Now, now, if you are looking to move the goalposts (we are talking about conferences generally and not the AAC? mmmmkay), you are still factually wrong. Last season, 66% (21 of 32) of regular season conference champions lost a home game in conference play.

(01-18-2018 01:15 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  You have 3 probable losses on the road. SMU, Cincy, Houston

Truth-o-meter: INCORRECT. I thought these were all facts and not just subjective dart throwing? WSU's win likelihood against these opponents per KenPom is 52% (UH), 45% (SMU) and 26% (UC).

This is an opinion and a perfect example of wsu posters not knowing the difference. You are using one metric you like. What was last night's Ken pom prediction? Facts aren't in evidence here. I mean SMU is a better team at home than on the road. They owned wsu on the road, so you think wsu will win on the road? See opinion not fact. Work on that.

4) Nope. An opinion is "I think you'll lose these particular games." You opted instead to present it as a factual assertion (with probability as your foundation), and you asserted incorrectly. I thought WSU fans were the ones with difficulty differentiating fact from opinion?

(01-18-2018 01:15 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  You have 3 more toss ups with at memphis, UCF and cincy.

Truth-o-meter: INCORRECT. Why do these errors in your statements keep happening? It's almost like you don't understand what factual statements are? Toss-up implies even odds or very close to it. Per KenPom, the odds of victory in these games are as follows: 78% (@ Memphis), 65% (@ UCF) and 50% (vs. UC).

Again this is an opinion, see how clear this becomes? Your opinion based on Ken pom is you will win these games.

5)See above.

(01-18-2018 01:15 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  Your opinion before the game against SMU last night and being at home that you would win. Fact is you lost to SMU. My opinion is you took a beating and had a crazy finish to make it a 'close' game.

6)Unrelated and unresponsive jab. Yes, congratulations, you described an upset.

(01-18-2018 01:15 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  I dunno, it kinda seems like you were either trolling a bit or are just kinda stupid. Take your pick. Now, please find my errors and let's discuss.

Again opinion. As you can see that is your (and many wsu posters) biggest error the inability to tell the difference between a fact and what you think. Just because people disagree with your opinion doesn't make it trolling, or a lie, or hating. Just because you say it doesn't make it true or a fact. See Fever's quote below for the perfect example of that wsu behavior.

7)Yes, my opinion that you are ignorant is an opinion (albeit underpinned with factual evidence in this chain).

The problem here is you were having fun sniping while playing fast and loose with your statements, were called out for it (nicely at first), then put yourself on a pedestal as a fount of factual accuracy versus those despicable WSU fans who can't tell fact from fiction.

Next time you do that, don't screw up so many of your facts in the related posts.


Numbered because if we don't go step by step and slow that whole reading comprehension deficiency will get in the way.

1) This is me saying I may be wrong and asking for the loss I missed. So who did you lose to?

2) Actually my posts have all been about conference play in here. It is the subject we have been talking about. Not every sentence in a discussion has to begin with the red shirt when referring to red shirt. The shirt is clear enough.

Learning to take an L would be sound advice for many wsu posters to take, they act as if it would end their world.

3) No I am talking historically about conferences in general (here we go again) it's not moving goalposts because you misunderstood. Most conference champions follow a simple rule, win your home games and half on the road and you be playing for a conference championship. This is the general view. Pretty sure that 3 (seasons) or 1 (year) of data points don't make relevant statistics. How ever I question the general wisdom. This may be an L.

4) Fact: you lost to SMU at home. Opinion you will lose to SMU on the road. Reading comprehension means understanding what definition to use. The word probable in this case means likely. And yes that is opinion based, factual assertion implies there are facts. This is all speculation and therefore all opinion.

5)opinion:
NOUN
1A view or judgement formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge.
a matter of opinion

Something not capable of being proven either way.

‘relativism tends to regard different beliefs as just a matter of opinion’

Origin
Middle English: via Old French from Latin opinio(n-), from the stem of opinari ‘think, believe’.

Oxford dictionary definition since you are having such trouble. Both 4 or 5 are opinions Ken Pom may agree with yours but that's just Ken Poms opinion, Vegas may think differently, other metrics may predict different results. Their opinion and mine are no more factual than yours or Ken Poms.

6) This upset is the example of why Ken Pom isn't a fact and directly goes against the Ken Pom "facts" you tried to pass off to discredit my argument. It was related and responsive to your argument. Again the last part isn't a jab it's my honest opinion. That you think it was a jab is the whole problem here. I don't have to agree with your opinion and just because I don't doesn't make it trolling or wrong.

7) So we are at the basis of the problem again. You honestly crack me up. I have made lots of true statements. You picked through and found two minor errors and try to dismiss the rest based on this.

So you have had two home conference losses in 5 years not 1. That further strengthens the point. Vs valley level competition with 66 tries you lost 1 game. Vs AAC competition you have 1 loss in 3 games. Probably a strong indicator that the league you now play in is better and you may not win this conference. If anything this strengthens my argument, more so when you realize smu is not the conference favorite.

I will concede my statement that conference champions don't lose at home was wrong, mostly because I don't think either of us should spend time looking it up to find out and you have already produced some facts strongly disputing it.

That's what you have got. Two minor infractions and an issue with distinguish between opinion and fact. I think the sun will be out tomorrow, the weather says so, and I live in a temperate climate, however until it is sunny out tomorrow that is just my opinion in agreement with climatologist and weathermen's educated ones.

(01-18-2018 03:12 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  
(01-18-2018 02:24 PM)SadderBudweiser Wrote:  I finally got to watch the game this morning.

Both teams played really well.

More conference games like that one please!

And WSU: have no fear. SMU’s whuppin of UCONN (twice) during UCONN’s last NC season was obviously responsible for the Huskies NCAA toughness. I hope the same holds true this year for you. You have the talent.

What a positive outlook.

(01-18-2018 03:21 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  
(01-18-2018 02:28 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  
(01-18-2018 01:58 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  can we just have normal game conversations instead of this bullcrap?

Agree, but I don't think the Tulsa fan is trolling. The Shocker God complex posse has had some difficulties with reality for some time now.

I promise I'm not. I could be going out of my way to bait them. Just tired of some wsu posters calling others out about things. In particular calling out individual posters who can't defend themselves right now.

Most of it is just spoiled kid syndrome, they were the only child of Wichita and darling of the MVC. Now they're in public school and always seem upset the other kids don't think they're cool. Basically Cartman from South Park. I should just let it go, but that's how we got to the point where some wsu fans troll, make outrageous claims and then call out mods in the posts for not banning the people who disagree with them. It's old and needs to stop.

This is what you call military-grade thread shitting. 03-puke

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(01-18-2018 04:14 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  I love how SMU game threads always turn into shouting matches between non-SMU schools

We attract the real talent don’t we?
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(01-18-2018 04:40 PM)SadderBudweiser Wrote:  
(01-18-2018 04:14 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  I love how SMU game threads always turn into shouting matches between non-SMU schools

We attract the real talent don’t we?

Pretty good at getting people to fight our battles
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(01-18-2018 04:51 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  
(01-18-2018 04:40 PM)SadderBudweiser Wrote:  
(01-18-2018 04:14 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  I love how SMU game threads always turn into shouting matches between non-SMU schools

We attract the real talent don’t we?

Pretty good at getting people to fight our battles

There's some real talent on this board.
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(01-18-2018 02:28 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  
(01-18-2018 01:58 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  can we just have normal game conversations instead of this bullcrap?

Agree, but I don't think the Tulsa fan is trolling. The Shocker God complex posse has had some difficulties with reality for some time now.

Not sure I would use the same phrasing, but it does seem that a handful of Shocker fans moved into this conference in MVC mode, and have yet to make a smooth transition.
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(01-18-2018 04:54 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  
(01-18-2018 04:51 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  
(01-18-2018 04:40 PM)SadderBudweiser Wrote:  
(01-18-2018 04:14 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  I love how SMU game threads always turn into shouting matches between non-SMU schools

We attract the real talent don’t we?

Pretty good at getting people to fight our battles

There's some real talent on this board.


Many unemployed I’m assuming.
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(01-18-2018 05:06 PM)TripleA Wrote:  
(01-18-2018 02:28 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  
(01-18-2018 01:58 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  can we just have normal game conversations instead of this bullcrap?

Agree, but I don't think the Tulsa fan is trolling. The Shocker God complex posse has had some difficulties with reality for some time now.

Not sure I would use the same phrasing, but it does seem that a handful of Shocker fans moved into this conference in MVC mode, and have yet to make a smooth transition.

I think last night was helpful. (Spoken in my MOST non-troll voice)
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Quote:Agree, but I don't think the Tulsa fan is trolling. The Shocker God complex posse has had some difficulties with reality for some time now.

I promise I'm not. I could be going out of my way to bait them. Just tired of some wsu posters calling others out about things. In particular calling out individual posters who can't defend themselves right now.

Most of it is just spoiled kid syndrome, they were the only child of Wichita and darling of the MVC. Now they're in public school and always seem upset the other kids don't think they're cool. Basically Cartman from South Park. I should just let it go, but that's how we got to the point where some wsu fans troll, make outrageous claims and then call out mods in the posts for not banning the people who disagree with them. It's old and needs to stop.
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Sorry does pointing out some wsu posters behavior on here upset you? Or that I used such good descriptions of it? Or is it that my opinion is different then yours?

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Holy **** balls.
What happened in here?
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(01-18-2018 07:18 PM)Recluse1 Wrote:  Holy **** balls.
What happened in here?

Illusions crushed.
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(01-18-2018 07:20 PM)cotton1991 Wrote:  
(01-18-2018 07:18 PM)Recluse1 Wrote:  Holy **** balls.
What happened in here?

Illusions crushed.

Illusions or delusions?

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(01-18-2018 07:59 PM)AndShock Wrote:  
(01-18-2018 07:20 PM)cotton1991 Wrote:  
(01-18-2018 07:18 PM)Recluse1 Wrote:  Holy **** balls.
What happened in here?

Illusions crushed.

Illusions or delusions?

04-cheers

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(01-18-2018 07:18 PM)Recluse1 Wrote:  Holy **** balls.
What happened in here?

The Shockers lost which caused a rift in the time space continuum. Think of it like the full moon effect times a billion. This is known to cause normally sane posters to lose their minds exhibiting all sorts of strange and compulsive behavior. It can be especially problematic for folks that live on or near red soil. Thankfully the Shockers don't lose often.


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I never would have thought SMU was the signature athletic program of the conference but I guess it is. No matter whether we get embarrassed in our bowl game to a G4 school or break a conference members long home winning streak our threads have quite an effect on our conference mates and even other non-affiliated members as evidenced by the never ending threads involving SMU. I really don't understand it. Please let this thread end!!!
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(01-18-2018 08:28 PM)mustangxc Wrote:  I never would have thought SMU was the signature athletic program of the conference but I guess it is. No matter whether we get embarrassed in our bowl game to a G4 school or break a conference members long home winning streak our threads have quite an effect on our conference mates and even other non-affiliated members as evidenced by the never ending threads involving SMU. I really don't understand it.

I honestly don't think SMU was brought up once in this entire thread. It's been all Tulsa and Cincy fans swinging for the cheap seats.


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(01-18-2018 08:33 PM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  
(01-18-2018 08:28 PM)mustangxc Wrote:  I never would have thought SMU was the signature athletic program of the conference but I guess it is. No matter whether we get embarrassed in our bowl game to a G4 school or break a conference members long home winning streak our threads have quite an effect on our conference mates and even other non-affiliated members as evidenced by the never ending threads involving SMU. I really don't understand it.

I honestly don't think SMU was brought up once in this entire thread. It's been all Tulsa and Cincy fans swinging for the cheap seats.


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